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Re: Annoying way to lose dark adaption new [Re: csrlice12]
      #5500984 - 11/02/12 01:38 PM

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Maybe try a shot of Jack instead, or Bailey's Irish Cream, or my favorite, Kahlua and coffee...





I'll second that!!!


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Re: Annoying way to lose dark adaption new [Re: Pinbout]
      #5501134 - 11/02/12 03:34 PM

It wasn't last night, it was on several occasions and it has finally reached the point that I feel it necessary to do something about it. A dim red light or unscrewing the bulb would be great and feasible if I lived alone... I could do an eye patch I suppose.... I'm still thinking an override door switch would be the best solution, for me.

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Re: Annoying way to lose dark adaption new [Re: Tori]
      #5501159 - 11/02/12 03:56 PM

A simple way to keep the refrigerator light off would be to tape the door switch "closed" with a piece of masking tape the night before you're going out. It would be easy to remove the next day. Use your red light to find the cream....

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Re: Annoying way to lose dark adaption new [Re: MarcusE]
      #5501179 - 11/02/12 04:12 PM

My fridge light has been burned out for about 5 years.

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Re: Annoying way to lose dark adaption new [Re: Tori]
      #5501189 - 11/02/12 04:17 PM

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Your alarm goes off. It's 2 am. You look outside, giddy to see steady little pinpoints of light everywhere, just as the clear sky chart told you it would be. You've been clouded in for weeks! You sneak into the kitchen to make coffee before going outside; You've done it so many times you can easily do it in the dark. Your eyes have been shut in the dark house for six hours, so you can make out the tiniest shadows as you move around your kitchen. The smell of fresh coffee fills the air as you open the refrigerator to get the cream...



really?

fresh cream does not spoil in six hours. why isn't the obvious solution here to pour out the cream before you go to bed? pour it into the cup, or into the thermos, and you're done. better, room temperature cream does not cool the coffee as much.

put the cream and coffee in the mug, put the mug in the microwave. all you have to do at 2am is push a button and remove the heated mug with your eyes closed.

heat the hot coffee almost to boiling, put the cream and hot coffee in a thermos. six hours later it will still be very hot.


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Re: Annoying way to lose dark adaption new [Re: drollere]
      #5501280 - 11/02/12 05:42 PM

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Your alarm goes off. It's 2 am. You look outside, giddy to see steady little pinpoints of light everywhere, just as the clear sky chart told you it would be. You've been clouded in for weeks! You sneak into the kitchen to make coffee before going outside; You've done it so many times you can easily do it in the dark. Your eyes have been shut in the dark house for six hours, so you can make out the tiniest shadows as you move around your kitchen. The smell of fresh coffee fills the air as you open the refrigerator to get the cream...



really?

fresh cream does not spoil in six hours. why isn't the obvious solution here to pour out the cream before you go to bed? pour it into the cup, or into the thermos, and you're done. better, room temperature cream does not cool the coffee as much.

put the cream and coffee in the mug, put the mug in the microwave. all you have to do at 2am is push a button and remove the heated mug with your eyes closed.

heat the hot coffee almost to boiling, put the cream and hot coffee in a thermos. six hours later it will still be very hot.




+1

I like that idea


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Re: Annoying way to lose dark adaption new [Re: Tori]
      #5501362 - 11/02/12 06:45 PM

Ha!
This reminds me of how I learned to drink coffee black: I had a professor who would take all his archaeology students out to the field on cold days to work in the open all day.
Well, you get kind of cold doing that (sort of like observing all night, eh?) and his idea of sweetened coffee with cream was one teaspoon of sugar and one teaspoon of instant creamer in a 1-quart thermos.
Needless to say, ANY hot beverage would have been just fine, and his coffee was, essentially, black.
Thermoses are wonderful things. Make the coffee at 6pm and it'll be hot all night. No refrigerator needed.


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Re: Annoying way to lose dark adaption new [Re: Starman1]
      #5501385 - 11/02/12 06:58 PM

Sorry, but if it's 2am and I'm asleep; my alarm is NOT going to go off......

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Re: Annoying way to lose dark adaption new [Re: Starman1]
      #5501397 - 11/02/12 07:07 PM

It's pretty hard to get into a refrigerator to rewire it....the walls are filled with hard foam insulation.
An eyepatch works (sort of) but light leaks in around the edges, and going back to the dark with one eye mostly dark adapted and one totally light-zapped challenges the brain......
I'd vote for a thermos made up beforehand, because you can also carry it out for a second hit.
I think the metal-lined construction-grade ones stay hot better, and you don't ever have to hear that heartbreaking sound of glass-and-coffee if you knock it over.......
R


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Re: Annoying way to lose dark adaption new [Re: roscoe]
      #5501439 - 11/02/12 07:31 PM

Oh, I was hoping this was a thread on all the various annoying ways to lose your dark adaptation. Not just the microwave refridgerator ways.

Come to think of it, is there a way to lose your dark adaptation that isn't annoying? I'll answer that below, but....

I was out in the National Forest on the side of a road, setting up. I had a drummer's chair out, (really a Tele Vue air chair), a tripod with some strange mechanical device on it (A Vixen GP mount), when the Sherrif's pull in next to me to see what suspicious thing I'm up to. In a technique that probably does increase the safety to law enforcement and the people they interact with, they shine a gazillion lumens flashlight in my eyes. A minute later I'm offering them a look-see but blinking and triping over pebbles.
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The only non-annoying way I can think of to lose your dark adaptation is if you see a really bright meteor or bolide. Or, comet or Supernova. If any one of those is bright enough to affect your dark adaptation, I want to see it.

LGM


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Re: Annoying way to lose dark adaption new [Re: Littlegreenman]
      #5501487 - 11/02/12 07:59 PM

Or..... http://www.beaverbuzz.com/beaverbuzz.htm
I always keep a can in my cupboard of observing gear. It's also what I pack when overnight camping at star parties.

Ready in seconds and no brewing required. Tasty too.

Bill


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Re: Annoying way to lose dark adaption new [Re: Tori]
      #5501609 - 11/02/12 09:30 PM

I don't get up at 2 a.m.--I stay up until 2 a.m.

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Re: Annoying way to lose dark adaption new [Re: Tori]
      #5501723 - 11/02/12 10:41 PM

Or drink it pure and black.

- Jim


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Re: Annoying way to lose dark adaption new [Re: jrbarnett]
      #5501753 - 11/02/12 11:01 PM

Freeze the coffee on a stick (coffsicle).

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Re: Annoying way to lose dark adaption new [Re: star drop]
      #5501847 - 11/03/12 12:19 AM

Stanley 2-quart Classic. Problem solved---forever. Even works for hot chocolate!

Dark skies.

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Re: Annoying way to lose dark adaption new [Re: mountain monk]
      #5501885 - 11/03/12 01:10 AM

I wore an eye patch for about an hour one night as I was preparing to go out and view. I got all my stuff together, flipped up the eye patch to view. Realized I forgot my notepad so I ran back inside and turned on the light blinding my dark adapted eye.

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Re: Annoying way to lose dark adaption new [Re: AdirondackAstro]
      #5501917 - 11/03/12 01:48 AM

I use this thermos every day:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00004S1CY/ref=oh_detail...
It's great, 12+ hours later your coffee is still hot. It's also very robust compared to other thermoses, you can really knock it around. As you can see it's a little steel tank. Because the design is so simple it's also easy to clean.


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Re: Annoying way to lose dark adaption new [Re: mark8888]
      #5501976 - 11/03/12 05:37 AM

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I use this thermos every day:




I have a similar one. If I fill it up and don't drink any of it, the tea is still scolding hot 24 hours later! They really are fantastic. It's many years old now, but still going strong. The plug and cup has started to slowly fall apart, though. Never seen spare parts for one, so I figure I just have to get a new one.


Clear skies!
Thomas, Denmark


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Re: Annoying way to lose dark adaption new [Re: roscoe]
      #5502022 - 11/03/12 07:31 AM

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It's pretty hard to get into a refrigerator to rewire it....the walls are filled with hard foam insulation.




In my refer, I can drill a hole directly from the outside of the fridge into the back side of the cutout for the door switch. I'll post pics when I do it.


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Re: Annoying way to lose dark adaption new [Re: Tori]
      #5502279 - 11/03/12 11:54 AM

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Quote:

It's pretty hard to get into a refrigerator to rewire it....the walls are filled with hard foam insulation.




In my refer, I can drill a hole directly from the outside of the fridge into the back side of the cutout for the door switch. I'll post pics when I do it.



Red Green would be proud of you. (Please unplug the refrigerator before proceeding.)


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