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Astronomical League observing programs/pins.
      #5551852 - 12/03/12 11:11 AM

Folks, we'd like to see how many are interested in this subject. So please post your thoughts, and of course your observing certificate/pin accomplishments!

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Re: Astronomical League observing programs/pins. new [Re: csa/montana]
      #5551895 - 12/03/12 11:45 AM

Im interested......in 2008 and 2009 I was a member at large.
Started the messier club , got 74 objects, enough for my Messier certificate, Dated March 30th 2009 , alas life and things happen.
So I never completed the remainder to get the pin.
Id like to sign up again, will I need to start over or , just contact someone with my certificate number, and then finish???


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Re: Astronomical League observing programs/pins. new [Re: droid]
      #5552106 - 12/03/12 02:00 PM

I completed the Lunar Program, but haven't sent in the observations for the pin yet. I thought that the lunar program was a great way to make use of all those clear nights that inevitably come when the moon is in the way.

I've made numerous other observations that can count toward other pins. For me the idea of earning pins is rather corny, but the idea of having good observing lists and setting goals is very useful.


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Re: Astronomical League observing programs/pins. new [Re: uniondrone]
      #5552200 - 12/03/12 02:51 PM

I finished the Lunar program and was awarded the pin/certificate on November 20th.. I am #800. The AL is awesome and gives me direction in this hobby. Next up is the Galileo program, as soon as I get a proper scope that can do 20x..

-James


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Re: Astronomical League observing programs/pins. new [Re: iceblaze]
      #5552239 - 12/03/12 03:12 PM

I have done the Binocular Messier and Binocular Deep Sky plus Globular Clusters. AL programs are great, as I am someone who tends to aimlessly mill about from one object to another without direction, it's nice to have a structured approach.

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Re: Astronomical League observing programs/pins. new [Re: FJA]
      #5552286 - 12/03/12 03:35 PM

Are you representing the Astronomical League in these programs?

Three of us were members at large and completed the Herschel 400. We sent in for the certificates and were told we were not eligible. Not sure if that was because we were members at large, but it was obvious nobody really cared at the League about following up.

It didn't matter to me, but it did to the other two guys.

Anyway, to make a long story short we dropped our membership in the league as a result.


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Re: Astronomical League observing programs/pins. new [Re: FJA]
      #5552299 - 12/03/12 03:41 PM

I have the Double Star award and the Variable Star award. I am almost finished with the Carbon Star award.

Even though I have seen all the Messier objects hundreds of times, I never star-hopped to most of them. So I bought an Orion XT8 and star hopped to 62 Messier objects before I had to have back surgery. I plan to finsh the Messier certificate next March.

To me, the AL programs are challenging, fun, and educational. They give me something new to look for each year. I'll probably try the Globular Cluster or Open Cluster lists in 2013.

Cheers,

Ron


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Re: Astronomical League observing programs/pins. new [Re: RAKing]
      #5552332 - 12/03/12 03:59 PM

I'm interested in the messier certificate. I think it's a great way to learn the sky and earn a little prestige among the amateur astronomy community. Why not?

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Re: Astronomical League observing programs/pins. new [Re: vsteblina]
      #5552436 - 12/03/12 05:14 PM

Quote:

Are you representing the Astronomical League in these programs?




I assume you were replying to me; as I started the thread. No, CN nor myself are representing the Astronomical League; rather thought it might be an interesting thread for those that are interested. Any questions re/ the League, would have to be directed to them.


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Re: Astronomical League observing programs/pins. new [Re: csa/montana]
      #5552863 - 12/03/12 09:20 PM

I love them!

I had the great fortune to start out in astronomy as a member of a League-associated club back when the League only had three awards (or clubs, as they actually are called): Messier, Herschel, and Sunspotters.

The Messier certificate was a rite of passage for any club member. That certificate meant that you, well 1) you had stayed with the hobby at least through a calendar year and 2) had a certain familiarity with the sky.

With high school and college always getting in the way, I took six years to get my Messier Certificate (the first 70), but I was exceptionally proud of it. Moreover, the Messier Certificate meant that you had "permission" to go on for the holy grail: The Herschel 400. (Twenty-two years later, I'm still working on it!)

Since then, there has been a virtual explosion in observing programs. Binocular clubs were added, as well as double star, globular, open cluster, lunar clubs, and the Herschel program was expanded to have an additional 400. Many challenging awards were added: Arp, and Galaxy Clusters for example. There are enough award programs now to keep one busy for several lifetimes. (I wonder if someone is working towards getting all of them!)

Two of the most important changes over the years were the inclusion of CCD options for some of the more advanced clubs, and -- with what much have been the most rancorous arguments -- inclusion of goto technology, where appropriate, on some of the awards.

The awards, of course, are not for everyone. For some, chasing certificates isn't enjoyable. My personality type (INTJ), seems to relish in it. (I like checking off items off of lists, a hallmark of the "J".) I like the structured programs and at the end, I get a large degree of personal satisfaction and accomplishment when I complete one of the awards. These awards are not easy and often are multi-year efforts involving 50 to 100 objects or more.

I also applaud the League's effort to maintain the spirit of many of the original awards. The Messier and Herschel certificates are meant to encourage the person to learn the sky and perfect their star-hopping technique. There's a great deal of tradition with these awards and I am glad to see that maintained.

I personally think the League's use of endorsements on their awards is an excellent compromise on the method front. That is, on many of the newer awards, your method and equipment is listed, such as Manual or Digitally-Assisted (setting circles or goto) or V for visual and C for CCD.

Now to get back to my Herschels.....


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Re: Astronomical League observing programs/pins. new [Re: Michael Rapp]
      #5552950 - 12/03/12 10:05 PM

I am working on the Lunar, Messier, and Sunspotter programs, as well as the Master level Outreach Award. I find these programs help focus my observing, and as a result, my observational skills have improved.

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Re: Astronomical League observing programs/pins. new [Re: Michael Rapp]
      #5552957 - 12/03/12 10:07 PM

Huge fan of the pins and the Astronomical League.
I have the Bino Messier, Lunar, EOSOC, Solar System (when I did it was called Planetary). I am currently working on the Herschel 400 and Carbon Star, and this summer plan on doing the Sunspot. I just finished my Globular Cluster pin just waiting on getting the certificate. My personal goal is to earn the Master Observer pin

Oh and Michael, there is one guy here in Birmingham that has almost every pin, including the southern sky ones. He did it in about 5 or 6 years and from what I am told travels a lot.

Edited by LivingNDixie (12/03/12 10:10 PM)


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Re: Astronomical League observing programs/pins. new [Re: LivingNDixie]
      #5552987 - 12/03/12 10:24 PM

The only pin I have is for attending 5 or more outreach events. I think it's a great idea. Some of the awards are downright tough to achieve.

Good thread, Carol!

David

Edited by David Pavlich (12/03/12 10:25 PM)


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Re: Astronomical League observing programs/pins. new [Re: David Pavlich]
      #5553145 - 12/04/12 12:00 AM

Quote:

Good thread, Carol!




David, the thread was an idea Preston (LivinNDixie) had; I just followed his lead.

Really glad to see the response, and I'm going to start looking into some of the achievements!


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Re: Astronomical League observing programs/pins. new [Re: csa/montana]
      #5553237 - 12/04/12 01:45 AM

I did the Messier Club in the mid 1970's (Award #224) and Herschel 400 program in the mid 1980's (Award #15). I also have observed all the Herschel II's but now, I am kind of balking at the League's "requirement" that one buy their guide book and use its enclosed "Submital Form" to apply for the award. I have been observing for over 40 years (and a member of the League for nearly that long), so what do I need a silly "guidebook" for? Sorry, I'm not interested.

I did get one League Award (well, two actually) that I wasn't expecting, namely the regular and "Stellar" Outreach Awards courtesy our club's outreach coordinator. I hadn't applied for them, but our club outreach coordinator was keeping track of all the hours many of us had put in, and submitted the documentation for our awards without telling us. We got kind of blown away when we were handed our award certificates and pins at a club meeting, so it really meant a lot. These are probably the awards that I am most appreciative of, as all I had to do to get them was spend some of my own time just to help people outside of our hobby see some of the wonders of the universe that I get to look at on a regular basis. I often get more enjoyment out of doing outreach than when I am hunting down some obscure faint fuzzies, so an award for doing that is just the icing on the cake (and I don't need to buy any silly guide book to do it!). Clear skies to you.


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Re: Astronomical League observing programs/pins. new [Re: David Knisely]
      #5553259 - 12/04/12 02:25 AM

i love the idea and a week ago printed out the messier list and both their urban lists if only to just use as a personal goal when i'm out observing.

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Re: Astronomical League observing programs/pins. new [Re: csa/montana]
      #5553558 - 12/04/12 08:46 AM

I've completed the Lunar, Double Star, Comet (Gold Level), Variable Star, Carbon Star and Binocular Double Star Programs. I'm looking forward to the Stellar Evolution Program.

Rich (RLTYS)


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Re: Astronomical League observing programs/pins. new [Re: Rich (RLTYS)]
      #5553877 - 12/04/12 12:22 PM

I am the national coordinator for the Lunar II program, so feel free to talk to me about awards. I have earned the following: Messier, Globular Clusters, Master Outreach, Open Clusters, Herschel 400, Lunar, Lunar II, Constellations, Planetary Nebula, Dark Nebula, Binocular Messier, Double Stars, Binocular Deep Sky, Caldwell, Urban, Venus Transit and Master Obsever Progams. I am working on Solar System, Herschel II, Carbon Stars and Asterism programs. I find the Al programs help me focus on my observing and provide direction as well as helping me learn more about what I am observing.

P.S. Dr. Aaron Clevenson is the national observing program coordinator and is very helpful with obsering program issues. Vladmir, you should contact him to get your Hershcel issue resolved particulary if you met all the requirements.


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Re: Astronomical League observing programs/pins. new [Re: cliff mygatt]
      #5553880 - 12/04/12 12:26 PM

Cliff, thanks for contributing to this thread, including the information you gave!

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Re: Astronomical League observing programs/pins. new [Re: csa/montana]
      #5553963 - 12/04/12 01:12 PM

I don't know how much I care about the pin/certificate... I might go through the motions to get them but not currently a member. More importantly though, I am greatly enjoying going through the lists and intend complete as many as I can. Almost finished with Messier and making good progress with the Herschel 400. I've just started tracking my double star observations.

No doubt having the lists has helped give me a goal to work towards. I would likely be much more random about my observations.


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Re: Astronomical League observing programs/pins. new [Re: dennyhenke]
      #5553990 - 12/04/12 01:25 PM

I'm working through the Deep Sky Binocular and Carbon Star programs. I'm not a member but I'm enjoying the lists. Only about 9 more wintertime clusters to with the Deep Sky list. I won't be submitting for any pins or certificates.

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Re: Astronomical League observing programs/pins. new [Re: csa/montana]
      #5554615 - 12/04/12 08:42 PM

I enjoy working through the Astronomical League observing clubs a lot. I have completed the Urban, Double Star, Messier, Binocular Messier, Deep Sky Binocular, Lunar, Caldwell (the basic one), and the Herschel 400 lists. I am currently working on the Dark Nebula, Lunar II, Binocular Double Star, and Planetary Nebula lists. Working through these lists has turned me on to many objects that I wouldn't have observed otherwise.

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Re: Astronomical League observing programs/pins. new [Re: cliff mygatt]
      #5554687 - 12/04/12 09:38 PM

Quote:


P.S. Dr. Aaron Clevenson is the national observing program coordinator and is very helpful with obsering program issues. Vladmir, you should contact him to get your Hershcel issue resolved particulary if you met all the requirements.




Well, we did resolve the issue. We quit the Astronomical League!!

I called the lady and asked what we needed to submit for the H400 certificate. She stated that we were not going to get a certificate. I asked if she wanted to see our observing logs and she said NO and hung up.

It was very strange. Like I said I don't really care about pins and certificates, but the other two guys did. One of them has since died and unfortunately I missed that it was important to him otherwise I would have followed up.

Clubs have some strange people. I have a life outside of astronomy so it was easier to get rid of the irritation than deal with it.

That said, the observing lists are a great way to become a better observer. It is also a fun activity to undertake as a group rather than a solitary observer.

We had a great time doing the H400. It was a pretty special time.


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Re: Astronomical League observing programs/pins. new [Re: vsteblina]
      #5554778 - 12/04/12 10:33 PM

Vladimir, I understand and am sorry you were treated that way. The club reps are not like that now but that is the past and we move on. Thanks for your honesty and helping me understand your frustration.

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Re: Astronomical League observing programs/pins. new [Re: cliff mygatt]
      #5554811 - 12/04/12 11:02 PM

Wow! Sounds like some house cleaning has taken place. How about a posthumous certificate for Vladimir's friend? It was important to him.

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Re: Astronomical League observing programs/pins. new [Re: vsteblina]
      #5554913 - 12/05/12 12:25 AM

I was a member until last month when I didn't renew my club membership. I have completed the H400, Messier, Urban, Double Stars, Carbon, Lunar, Planetary Nebula and Binocular Messier. I am also about 1/2 way on the Herschel 400 II list.

Now, I have them done but each time I went to get approved in the club the club member in charge wanted me to scan all of these to him. Nope. I'm not going to scan all those observing pages to him. I thought we could meet at the end of a club meeting and he go through them, take them and then get them back to me etc. Nope so though done I never got my certificate or reward. Does it matter to me? Nope again. I know I did them, I have my logs for them still and in the end, they brought a lot of enjoyment, focus, experience and learning how to observe to me. Actually they got me going to dark sites more and more until I really only do doubles and lunar observing at home.

So I recommend them whether one gets an award or pin or not. In the end, the observer's journey through the objects is what matters. To be honest, my sketches, good and bad are my pins and certificates. Each their own and YMMV.


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Re: Astronomical League observing programs/pins. new [Re: JayinUT]
      #5555486 - 12/05/12 11:05 AM

JayinUT said "In the end, the observer's journey through the objects is what matters. To be honest, my sketches, good and bad are my pins and certificates. Each their own and YMMV."

My 3x5 card sketches of the Messier objects and the observing log from the Herschel 400 are treasured objects 15 years later.

There are plenty of observing lists out there. The Astronomical League lists are good and relatively handy.

Doing a list will make you a much better observer and gives a purpose and direction to each nights observing.


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Re: Astronomical League observing programs/pins. new [Re: csa/montana]
      #5555535 - 12/05/12 11:38 AM

Great topic. I started working to complete their lists when I started this hobby nine years ago.

Completed: Messier, Binocular Messier, Deep Sky Binocular, Globular Cluster, H400 and Herschell II.
In Process: Arp, Flat Galaxy, Planetary Nebula and Caldwell.


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Re: Astronomical League observing programs/pins. new [Re: vsteblina]
      #5555537 - 12/05/12 11:39 AM

While not on the most of the individual requirements page for each program, the main or head Observing Program page at:
http://www.astroleague.org/observing.html does state:

"The programs are designed to be individual effort. Each individual must perform all the requirements of each program themselves and not rely on other people to locate the objects. This technique is called "piggy-backing" and is not acceptable for logging objects for any of the programs. You are allowed to look through another observers telescope to see what the object looks like, but you still need to locate and observe the object on your own."


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Re: Astronomical League observing programs/pins. new [Re: S.Boerner]
      #5555604 - 12/05/12 12:39 PM

I dunno maybe I got lucky

I got my certificate within ,IIRC, 6 weeks, might have been a little longer.

I downloaded all the required forms, read and reread, and then reread multiple times as I progressed.
All the forms were put in a three ring binder, along with telrad finder charts.
When I had completed the 70 I took it all to copy max, made copys, kept the copys and mailed the originals in.

Id like to rejoin , just to complete the messier club, and while the pin isnt the end all to be all of it, its something I can point too as the culmination of the project.
I still have my Nartrek Certificates, with the patches on my wall, no they dont make me a better rocketeer, but they attest to my two year struggle to acheive all the goals.
So I guess , to me, the pin does mean something, a goal to be acheived, and an end to one chapter, and probably the beginning of another.


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Re: Astronomical League observing programs/pins. new [Re: droid]
      #5556146 - 12/05/12 06:31 PM

I completed Lunar I (#743). I started Lunar II and Solar System Observing.

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Re: Astronomical League observing programs/pins. new [Re: dennyhenke]
      #5556326 - 12/05/12 08:03 PM

Personally, I would like to see more imager friendly programs such as a Messier imaging cert and pin, and perhaps a mlys of distance challenge program as well for scopes under a certain size.

I am considering the galaxy groups challenge, it looks pretty interesting; however for my own edification my priority for imaging is the Messier Catalog.



Edited by Jb32828 (12/05/12 08:05 PM)


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Re: Astronomical League observing programs/pins. new [Re: Jb32828]
      #5556406 - 12/05/12 08:56 PM

I'm working on Lunar I now. Will most likely do Lunar II. Maybe a couple of others. I need to get a membership though. My schedule is so tight right now that I haven't been able to join the local club. Hopefully in the next year or so.

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Re: Astronomical League observing programs/pins. new [Re: Staredge]
      #5556494 - 12/05/12 09:51 PM

I like the programs. Last winter, I was able to observe and sketch Io transiting Jupiter. The kicker was the Great Red Spot was just red enough so that Io was clearly visible! It was really stunning to see Io clear Jupiter and see its shadow still transiting!!!

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Re: Astronomical League observing programs/pins. new [Re: tecmage]
      #5556661 - 12/05/12 11:25 PM

I've got the Lunar I pin; I've been picking away at Lunar II and need to refocus my attention on it. The Messier list is done, and I just need to organize the sketches and turn in copies. And the I've almost completed the Double Star club.

I need to get remotivated in these matters. The past couple of years have been so focused on the revival of my writing career that I haven't had much time for hobbies. A bit of concentrated observing would be refreshing!


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Re: Astronomical League observing programs/pins. new [Re: desertstars]
      #5557007 - 12/06/12 07:56 AM

Clubs vary widely in their support of the Astronomical League's award programs. One I know of is a waste of time, the applications just disappear. Another is very aggressive about getting the awards, and has its own awards program and an awards coordinator.

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Re: Astronomical League observing programs/pins. new [Re: Doc Willie]
      #5561343 - 12/08/12 06:59 PM

Quote:

Clubs vary widely in their support of the Astronomical League's award programs. One I know of is a waste of time, the applications just disappear. Another is very aggressive about getting the awards, and has its own awards program and an awards coordinator.




Are you talking about observing clubs or actual astronomy clubs? If are having problems I would contact the observing club coordinator at the League level.

Edited by LivingNDixie (12/08/12 07:06 PM)


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Re: Astronomical League observing programs/pins. new [Re: LivingNDixie]
      #5574314 - 12/16/12 03:09 PM

Im working on my globular cluster pin.

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Re: Astronomical League observing programs/pins. new [Re: josie521]
      #5575873 - 12/17/12 03:11 PM

Sounds like fun--I'm interested. One question about Messier Program, there is a note that states:

Note:

Since the purpose of the Messier Program is to familiarize the observer with the nature and location of the objects in the sky, the use of an automated telescope which finds the objects without effort on the part of the observer is not acceptable. "Automated telescope" also includes the use of digital setting circles where a read-out shows the user directions to follow to find an object. This also includes the unacceptable use of smartphones that use apps to locate objects in the night sky. The use of the setting circles found on the axis of telescope should also be avoided. In short, only finderscopes, Telrads, or Telrad-like devices are acceptable.


Does this mean you cannot use a smartphone as a star map? I wouln't use the Intelliscope functionality on my dob nor would I use the 'compass' feature on SkySafari Pro, but I do use it as a star map to star hop. I *think* that that would be allowed but their rule isn't all that clear.


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Re: Astronomical League observing programs/pins. new [Re: Starman81]
      #5575886 - 12/17/12 03:23 PM

If you are just using it as a map then it's ok. The point is you are supposed to star hop to the Messier objects. As long as you are star hopping to find the objects it doesn't matter what you use for a map.

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Re: Astronomical League observing programs/pins. new [Re: LivingNDixie]
      #5577714 - 12/18/12 06:19 PM

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Clubs vary widely in their support of the Astronomical League's award programs. One I know of is a waste of time, the applications just disappear. Another is very aggressive about getting the awards, and has its own awards program and an awards coordinator.



I am talking about actual astronomy clubs that are members of the AL, and should be putting out applications through.

Are you talking about observing clubs or actual astronomy clubs? If are having problems I would contact the observing club coordinator at the League level.




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Re: Astronomical League observing programs/pins. new [Re: cliff mygatt]
      #5586748 - 12/24/12 08:11 AM

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I am the national coordinator for the Lunar II program, so feel free to talk to me about awards. I have earned the following: Messier, Globular Clusters, Master Outreach, Open Clusters, Herschel 400, Lunar, Lunar II, Constellations, Planetary Nebula, Dark Nebula, Binocular Messier, Double Stars, Binocular Deep Sky, Caldwell, Urban, Venus Transit and Master Obsever Progams. I am working on Solar System, Herschel II, Carbon Stars and Asterism programs. I find the Al programs help me focus on my observing and provide direction as well as helping me learn more about what I am observing.

P.S. Dr. Aaron Clevenson is the national observing program coordinator and is very helpful with obsering program issues. Vladmir, you should contact him to get your Hershcel issue resolved particulary if you met all the requirements.




Hello Cliff, hey questions(s)
I was a member at large for two or three years, during that time I got 74 of the messiers to earn the Messier Club Certificate.After words life got in the way, and I let my membership go, Id like to finish it and earn my pin.
Aside from becoming a member at large again, what will I have to do? redo the whole thing, it has been four years, or just finish the remainder and submit them?


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Re: Astronomical League observing programs/pins. new [Re: droid]
      #5586774 - 12/24/12 08:38 AM

As long as you have your notes it doesn't matter when the observations were made. You do not have to start over.

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Re: Astronomical League observing programs/pins. new [Re: City Kid]
      #5586908 - 12/24/12 10:00 AM

Are there any real benefits to becoming a member at large? Or is it just for getting certificates and pins?

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Re: Astronomical League observing programs/pins. new [Re: Dennis_S253]
      #5587043 - 12/24/12 11:27 AM

Other than a subscription to Reflector magazine it's pretty much just for getting certificates and pins. I believe you can also get a discount on books if I'm not mistaken.

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Re: Astronomical League observing programs/pins. new [Re: City Kid]
      #5587444 - 12/24/12 04:01 PM

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Other than a subscription to Reflector magazine it's pretty much just for getting certificates and pins. I believe you can also get a discount on books if I'm not mistaken.



That's true and the Reflector magazine is quartely and does not have more than a couple of articales in it, but this is the worlds largest astronomy club. As such it supports amateur astronomy and has several programs it supports as well as the observing clubs, with there certificates and pins. You can also get discounts on magazine subscriptions and books ordered through them. Basically though you are just supporting someone who promotes amateur astronomy.


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Re: Astronomical League observing programs/pins. new [Re: blb]
      #5587452 - 12/24/12 04:08 PM

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Are there any real benefits to becoming a member at large? Or is it just for getting certificates and pins?



Find a club in your area who is a member of the Astronomical League and membership in the AL is real cheep or free in some clubs. That is much cheeper than being a member at large. For example membership in the club I belong to is $25 and membership in AL is $6 for a total of $31, where being a member at large is $40. That saved me $9 but for some clubs membership is cheeper and AL membership is included, so check it out and you may save a bunch of $$'s.


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Re: Astronomical League observing programs/pins. new [Re: dennyhenke]
      #5587568 - 12/24/12 05:45 PM

I did the double star project with a Meade NG-70 (better eyepieces) from my light shot back yard, just to prove to myself that it could be done. I wrote up notes on how to find each one and have the document attached to a post on the Meade4M Community Forum if anyone would like a copy. It tells how to find the objects by star hopping. It is located in the Visual Astronomy Section.

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Re: Astronomical League observing programs/pins. new [Re: Bill Steen]
      #5587670 - 12/24/12 07:26 PM

have completed 17 observing clubs

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Re: Astronomical League observing programs/pins. new [Re: droid]
      #5587930 - 12/25/12 12:34 AM

Andy, As stated by others, there is no time limit on how long it takes to complete the programs. You only need be a member. Joining a club is usually cheaper than Member at large membership but it is your choice. Good Luck!

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Re: Astronomical League observing programs/pins. new [Re: cliff mygatt]
      #5589237 - 12/26/12 06:05 AM

I think that the Member at Large AL membership is for those
who have no local clubs,
or do not want to join the local club

edj


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