Gil V
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Extreme cold weather question
#5596507 - 12/30/12 04:34 PM
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Will be looking at Jupiter tonight. Temps 15 F with 15 mph winds. Scope is already outside freezing. Do you keep eyepieces inside (warm) or outside (freezing) before going out?
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Re: Extreme cold weather question
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#5596520 - 12/30/12 04:39 PM
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Warm.
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#5596627 - 12/30/12 05:41 PM
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Warm.
...because otherwise if your EPs start out at frigid ambient temperature, the warm moisture radiating off your eyeball and face will quickly fog up the eyelens directly on-axis.
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#5596648 - 12/30/12 06:02 PM
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Warm.
...because otherwise if your EPs start out at frigid ambient temperature, the warm moisture radiating off your eyeball and face will quickly fog up the eyelens directly on-axis.
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Gil V
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#5596667 - 12/30/12 06:15 PM
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Seeing poor. Jupiter was a mess. Too cold!!
Edited by tecmage (12/31/12 10:32 PM)
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Re: Extreme cold weather question
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#5597782 - 12/31/12 11:32 AM
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I put them in my coat pockets, put heat packs in the case, and use a heater on the eyepiece plugged into my Dewbuster. It is a must here because eyepieces fog up here easily due to the extreme humidity that prevails here on the Gulf Coast. I wrap the heater around the barrel of the eyepiece and secure it with a strip of Velcro. It works very well. Another tactic that always helps is keeping my eyepiece case shut unless I am swapping eyepieces, that keeps them from dewing up and so does a heat pack place inside it.
Taras
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#5599755 - 01/01/13 02:44 PM
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I'd be more worried about ME being cold then the eyepieces. But like Achernar, I just keep the eyepieces in the closed case or at least in the bolt case. Having spent a year at the North Pole, I have a great respect for the cold.
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#5599773 - 01/01/13 02:56 PM
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Gil V, I doubt that you'd have any frost build up in a 15 MPH wind.
It was -2F last night (no wind) and I didn't have any problems with EP frost, but I don't know what the Dew Point was. Kept the EP's in a camera bag with a couple "Little Hotties" hand warmers.
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#5599831 - 01/01/13 03:30 PM
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I just keep them in my pocket.
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#5600538 - 01/01/13 11:29 PM
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I use an $11 heating pad in my EP case, works great!
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#5601028 - 01/02/13 10:58 AM
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Easy, cheap, solution: put one of those pink hot water bottles in your lens case.
Dark skies.
Jack
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#5601037 - 01/02/13 11:02 AM
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I'd be more worried about ME being cold then the eyepieces.
+1
I also just keep my eyepieces in my closed case, while observing. I've not had a problem so far.
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#5601263 - 01/02/13 01:29 PM
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Pockets for me too. This will de-fog and defrost them as well.
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#5601314 - 01/02/13 02:06 PM
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Boy, it would never occur to me to describe 15F as "extreme cold."
As others have said, it's pretty important to keep the eyepieces warm -- at least if your face puts out as much moisture as mine does. Pockets work fine for me, though I occasionally lose a minute or two warming up an eyepiece that I hadn't expected to use.
No doubt electric heaters work beautifully, but I don't like to be dependent on a high-power electric supply. And chemical handwarmers get expensive if you use them every night. A hot water bottle would be OK at first, but doesn't stay hot terribly long when it's cold out.
As for the seeing, it's sometimes fine on cold nights -- you never can tell. You do need to allow more cooldown time than during the summer, obviously.
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#5601341 - 01/02/13 02:24 PM
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Maybe I have been lucky. I keep my scope and eyepieces in my garage. observed for about an hour with no issues. It wasn't terribly cold maybe 20F. I never warmed my eyepieces. No my question is should I start to?
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#5601352 - 01/02/13 02:28 PM
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You can heat up ES eyepieces while boiling eggs.......
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#5601390 - 01/02/13 02:53 PM
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Easy, cheap, solution: put one of those pink hot water bottles in your lens case.
Dark skies.
Jack
I've used hot water bottles for years as backpacking canteens, serving a duel purpous. Theres nothing quite as nice as slipping into a warm sleeping bag on a cold trail.
Walmart has hot water bottles at the Pharmacy, they were $4.oo last time I looked.
Over here in the UK there are small, kid sized hot water bottles, they only hold about a cup and a half of hot water; might be a good size for warming a case, anyway, another good idea for a HWB.
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#5601522 - 01/02/13 04:20 PM
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Maybe I have been lucky. I keep my scope and eyepieces in my garage. observed for about an hour with no issues. It wasn't terribly cold maybe 20F. I never warmed my eyepieces. No my question is should I start to?
Here's my advice:
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
- Tony
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Re: Extreme cold weather question
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#5601650 - 01/02/13 05:46 PM
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I observed last night in partly cloudy skies in 13*F temperatures--a new record for me, though it was a short 30-40 minute session before I got totally clouded over. I consider that quite cold! But no wind, that made it bearable. I keep my EPs in the case until it is time to use them.
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Re: Extreme cold weather question
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#5601715 - 01/02/13 06:32 PM
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Maybe I have been lucky. I keep my scope and eyepieces in my garage. observed for about an hour with no issues. It wasn't terribly cold maybe 20F. I never warmed my eyepieces. No my question is should I start to?
Here's my advice:
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
- Tony
Point well taken. I will keep things as they are. Thanks Tony!!
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