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kfiscus
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Re: Most Poorly Named Night Sky Object? new [Re: rookie]
      #5866068 - 05/16/13 10:51 PM

I'm a pretty old kid...

Your doing the math made me a little older. It really doesn't seem like 31 years ago that E.T. came out.


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Re: Most Poorly Named Night Sky Object? new [Re: kfiscus]
      #5866140 - 05/16/13 11:19 PM

I would suggest NGC 6819 being referred to as the "Fox Head Cluster".

Additionally, O'Meara described it as resembling the Greek letter Chi with extensions spiralling out giving it the appearance of an "Octopus".

Take your pick. Both are pretty fanciful.


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Re: Most Poorly Named Night Sky Object? new [Re: Astrodj]
      #5866182 - 05/16/13 11:44 PM

Quite a few of the nicknames that Stephen O'Meara has coined are rather fanciful.

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Re: Most Poorly Named Night Sky Object? new [Re: Dave Mitsky]
      #5866187 - 05/16/13 11:48 PM

Orion's "sword." Y'all KNOW what I'm talkin' about!

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Re: Most Poorly Named Night Sky Object? new [Re: Zamboni]
      #5866447 - 05/17/13 05:27 AM

Ok folks , I've been seeing a lot of bleeps and words using substitutes for letters and innuendos.

Please keep in mind this is a family friendly web site, were all adults ,well mostly, Im sure if we all take a few minutes we can think of nicer words to type.

This is a fun thread, lets please keep it that way.

Ok mod rant off


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Re: Most Poorly Named Night Sky Object? new [Re: Rocketlawnchair]
      #5866611 - 05/17/13 08:27 AM

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How about planetary nebula as a class of object that has nothing to do with planets? This one used to get me every time.




Well maybe they were ex-planets, whom, after losing their planet status, just exploded in anger??


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Re: Most Poorly Named Night Sky Object? new [Re: csrlice12]
      #5867021 - 05/17/13 12:24 PM

Just the term "globular cluster" is remarkably UN-poetic for such lovely objects. It sounds like something a surgeon pulls out of a diseased person; "I found the problem- it's a globular cluster lodged next to your spleen."

I've been trying to think of something more mellifluous for months now. How about "spherical stardust-bunny"? No? Anybody?


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Re: Most Poorly Named Night Sky Object? new [Re: bhuloka]
      #5867422 - 05/17/13 03:45 PM

and instead of two-star alignment, we can call it "Star Search"!

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Re: Most Poorly Named Night Sky Object? new [Re: csrlice12]
      #5868300 - 05/17/13 10:22 PM

I always see Yed Prior and Yed Posterior as "the snake bite." And what kind of name is "Serpens Caput"? Is it dead?

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Re: Most Poorly Named Night Sky Object? new [Re: davidpitre]
      #5869199 - 05/18/13 12:03 PM

Ok, First off, The Great Square: I know this one to be inaccurate, because I know him, and he lives on Earth. Next: Does anyone, aside from me think the Hubble image of the Hourglass Nebula looks more like a huge green eye in space? Next: I do worry a great deal with all the Pulsars, Quasars and Zeniths out there, that we humans have completely littered space with our old televisions, and 80s vehicles. What happened to a country road, or just leaving them at the curb? Seriously though: I wouldn't say it's poorly named, but its an odd name. Look it up. It's a fun, and remarkable object called Hanny's Voorwerp.

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Re: Most Poorly Named Night Sky Object? new [Re: graffias79]
      #5869660 - 05/18/13 04:15 PM

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I always see Yed Prior and Yed Posterior as "the snake bite." And what kind of name is "Serpens Caput"? Is it dead?




OOOH, OOOH, I know. "Kaput" - Dead; "Caput" - Head.


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Re: Most Poorly Named Night Sky Object? new [Re: bhuloka]
      #5869679 - 05/18/13 04:24 PM

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Just the term "globular cluster" is remarkably UN-poetic for such lovely objects. It sounds like something a surgeon pulls out of a diseased person; "I found the problem- it's a globular cluster lodged next to your spleen."

I've been trying to think of something more mellifluous for months now. How about "spherical stardust-bunny"? No? Anybody?




I like it! I'll change my glob list name to SSDBs.


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Re: Most Poorly Named Night Sky Object? new [Re: Skylook123]
      #5869714 - 05/18/13 04:46 PM

Well, we do get kind of lazy and just happen to adopt the Greek or sometimes Roman names for things, like the Milky Way translation from Greek loosely meaning the source of life looking like a road, instead of the Mayan "tree of life", or some Native American "Arms of the Great Spirit Protecting Us" making use of the dust lanes, or some North African attribution of the Milky Way being the campfires of departed elders so be on your best behavior when it's up to not offend them and protect the clan's honor.

It had to be Uranus to fit the paradigm of naming the planet for the father of the preceding planet. So, Roman Jupiter(Greek Zeus) is followed by his father Saturn (Greek Chronus), next had to be Uranus. Middle school boys' sense of humor was apparently not considered. Herschel named it Georgium Sidus after King George III when he discovered it in 1781, but the rest of the world laughed and called it Uranus, next in line. Only England called it Georgium Sidus until Herschel died about 40 years later. Although the French called it Herschel's Planet, just to be contrary.


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Re: Most Poorly Named Night Sky Object? new [Re: Hamsterdam]
      #5873261 - 05/20/13 08:57 AM

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... I do worry a great deal with all the Pulsars, Quasars and Zeniths out there, that we humans have completely littered space with our old televisions, and 80s vehicles.




The you are old enough to get this joke from the 1970s:
"Q: Why is a neat junkie like a Quasar television set? A: Because he keeps his works in a drawer."

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What happened to a country road, or just leaving them at the curb? Seriously though: I wouldn't say it's poorly named, but its an odd name. Look it up. It's a fun, and remarkable object called Hanny's Voorwerp.




I'm still waiting for the "Hanny's Voorwerp" joke on Futurama. What's up with that? The joke almost writes itself.


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Re: Most Poorly Named Night Sky Object? new [Re: careysub]
      #5873545 - 05/20/13 11:39 AM

"The Moon". Rather creative. All the other ones in the solar system have a name.

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Re: Most Poorly Named Night Sky Object? new [Re: graffias79]
      #5873599 - 05/20/13 12:08 PM

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I always see Yed Prior and Yed Posterior as "the snake bite." And what kind of name is "Serpens Caput"? Is it dead?




In case your query was on the level, caput is Latin for head.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/caput

http://www.universetoday.com/23586/serpens-caput/

Dave Mitsky


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Re: Most Poorly Named Night Sky Object? new [Re: Classic8]
      #5873926 - 05/20/13 03:02 PM

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"The Moon". Rather creative. All the other ones in the solar system have a name.




Luna.

'nuf said.


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Re: Most Poorly Named Night Sky Object? new [Re: Doc Willie]
      #5874245 - 05/20/13 05:04 PM

Why is "globular" pronounced with a short "o" as in "glob" instead of a long "o" as in "globe," which would be consistent with its shape? At least the short "o" is the way I hear most folks pronounce it.

Edited by RussL (05/20/13 05:05 PM)


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Re: Most Poorly Named Night Sky Object? new [Re: Dave Mitsky]
      #5879181 - 05/22/13 10:12 PM

Quote:

Quote:

I always see Yed Prior and Yed Posterior as "the snake bite." And what kind of name is "Serpens Caput"? Is it dead?




In case your query was on the level, caput is Latin for head.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/caput

http://www.universetoday.com/23586/serpens-caput/

Dave Mitsky




Thanks, Yes I knew it but it sounds funny. On a different note I always thought the Lacaille constellations were strange being mostly laboratory instruments whereas the rest of the sky was mythology based. I guess they had to see them to name them in ancient times!


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Re: Most Poorly Named Night Sky Object? new [Re: Doc Willie]
      #5879216 - 05/22/13 10:32 PM

ahhh......Lady Luna

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