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DragonX
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LCROSS sightings anyone?
      #3379936 - 10/09/09 08:45 AM

I was out with my 12" DOB and had a 9mm lens and still saw nothing. Beautiful sky for viewing though so not all was lost, but disappointed by all the hype about the impact.

Did anyone see any evidence of the impact?

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Professor Marvel
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Re: LCROSS sightings anyone? [Re: DragonX]
      #3379951 - 10/09/09 08:54 AM

Being located in western PA my chances of seeing anything were slim to begin with. Clouds and rain took care of the rest. (9.25 inch SCT with the lens cap still on)

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johnnyha
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Re: LCROSS sightings anyone? [Re: Professor Marvel]
      #3379961 - 10/09/09 08:59 AM

Had my 15" with a Mallincam at over 800X, beautiful shot, but no cigar. I've looked over the footage several times now.

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Re: LCROSS sightings anyone? [Re: Professor Marvel]
      #3379963 - 10/09/09 09:00 AM

I was out with my friend and we had a 10" SCT with an Astrovid Camera, an 11" SCT with a DVD Camera, and I was using my 16" dob visually and saw nothing at all in any of the scopes.

Bit of a disappointment like you said due to all the hype about it.

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SKYWLKR
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Re: LCROSS sightings anyone? [Re: skyward_eyes]
      #3380006 - 10/09/09 09:18 AM

I thought I might have seen something but can't be sure. Could have been a wispy cloud going through.

I was deff expecting something more spectacular and at least visable...


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Benihana
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Re: LCROSS sightings anyone? [Re: SKYWLKR]
      #3380036 - 10/09/09 09:42 AM

12" dob- 9mm eyepiece- 2x barlow
Saw not a thing.


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Ishtim
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Re: LCROSS sightings anyone? [Re: Benihana]
      #3380042 - 10/09/09 09:46 AM

14" SCT & Cloudy here in Bama!

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Hipparchus
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Re: LCROSS sightings anyone? [Re: Ishtim]
      #3380046 - 10/09/09 09:51 AM

Anyone remember Geraldo and Al Capone's vault?

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Rich N
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Re: LCROSS sightings anyone? [Re: DragonX]
      #3380053 - 10/09/09 09:55 AM

In the South San Francisco Bay Area we were able to get above the fog by going to one of our favorite observing sites along the ridge above Palo Alto.

The observing conditions were outstanding, clear skies and excellent seeing. I was using my Astro-Physics 155mm f/7 APO refractor. With a 7mm Pentax SMC-XT and a 2x Tele Vue Barlow the magnification was 310x. Lots of fine lunar detail.

Unfortunately, no sign of the impact.

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Re: LCROSS sightings anyone? [Re: Benihana]
      #3380060 - 10/09/09 09:59 AM

I observed this morning from the DC area (just west of the beltway in Virginia). Sky was more or less perfect with only some high Cirrus whisps here and there. During the impact window there were no clouds near the Moon and it was set in a nicely transparent blue sky (even though it was daylight here). So was glad the atmosphere was cooperating so well, and it was also very steady as I was able to push my XT10 to 800x and still maintain a nicely crisp and detailed lunar surface. At times the seeing steadied even further and 1000x produced similar results. I was able to shift magnifications between 800-1000x quickly as I was using a Siebert 4x-8x Zooming Telecentric amplifyer with a 6mm Radian on top of it, the zoom was in the 4x-5.5x. This of course also gave me a very small exit pupil so the background sky off the limb was also quite nicely dark given the daylight conditions.

Anyway, all this cooperation from both my instruments and the sky and bottom line was a complete No-Joy on seeing the impact. I also observed for around another 10 minutes past the impact time and continued to see no evidence of a plume or anything.

On the upside, after giving up on the impact, I turned to nearby crater Moretus which was filled with increadible details so spend lots of time there getting an eyeful of the interior rim wall details, central mounts, and all the wonderful details on the crater floor. Was quite surprised that the atmosphere was so very steady at this time of day and that I would still be able to see such rich details during the beginning daylight hours. Will definitely consider more just post sunrise lunar observing in the future

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Steve Fisher
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Re: LCROSS sightings anyone? [Re: BillP]
      #3380132 - 10/09/09 10:32 AM

I just returned from an outing with the Salt Lake Astronomical Society. We met at our observing site at the Stansbury Park Observatory Complex.

We had the observatories 16" Cass, 32" reflector, my 8" f/12 D&G, 160 Tec, 12" LX200, several smaller Dobs and even a ETX 125.

The weather was nearly perfect. Very clear, no dew problems, a little chilly right around 32°F. Seeing was excellent, nice stable skies. The D&G handled the 5mm Pentax very well at 487X.

Breakfast was great.

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Steve
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6" D&G f/12 Achromat Refractor
66mm f/6.1 William Optics Petzval
6" f/8 Celestron Starhopper

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Re: LCROSS sightings anyone? [Re: Steve Fisher]
      #3380177 - 10/09/09 10:54 AM

I was set up right next to Steve with the 160 TEC at 256x - 320x and came up empty also.

We had the 32" reflector and an 8" refractor hooked up to video. Nothing there either.

Steve and I probably had the best chance of seeing something. The images were bigger on the videos but much sharper with much more detail in the live view of the two refractors. We used shrouds over out heads to block out as much stray light as possible and still nothing.

I think we all got spoiled by how easy it was to see the impact remnants on Jupiter that we expected this to be easier that it was. Considering we had near perfect conditions, scopes were cooled, I'd have to conclude that the impact plume was way over-estimated.

It will be interesting to see what happened when NASA releases what they have. I wonder if they shut down to analyze the results first. (Conspiracy Theory)

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janehoustonjones
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Re: LCROSS sightings anyone? [Re: Steve Fisher]
      #3380196 - 10/09/09 11:02 AM

Monrovia, CA - We had some marine layer but very clear and pretty steady overhead where the moon was. 14.5 inch f/4.8 alt/az reflector 276x with 6mm TV Radian. Great view of Cabeus/south polar area. I saw an elongated light streak but it was a normal sunlight ray, not a plume or anything like that. I'm sure many amateur images will show those kind of normal visual light rays.

BTW, I think the plume was very well described by the LCROSS mission as being unlikely to rise very much overthe crater wall, it was never expected to be like a geyser or anything.

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coolrocketdude
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Re: LCROSS sightings anyone? [Re: Ziggy943]
      #3380198 - 10/09/09 11:03 AM

Check out http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/home/63766222.html

Guess NO telescope was big enough to see the plume.


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glava2005
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Re: LCROSS sightings anyone? [Re: Ziggy943]
      #3380202 - 10/09/09 11:05 AM

if Palomar observatory with 200inch and adaptive optics didn`t see anything in visual light i`m sure non of u did

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urbanMark
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Re: LCROSS sightings anyone? [Re: coolrocketdude]
      #3380219 - 10/09/09 11:13 AM

Yep, watched the post mission briefing on NASA TV, even the images from Keck and Palomar showed no obvious signs of impact. There was one ground based spectrograph that was obviously different before and after - guess we will have to wait for them to sift through the data to see what they really got.

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Re: LCROSS sightings anyone? [Re: urbanMark]
      #3380254 - 10/09/09 11:32 AM

This has been an interesting mission because of the great possibility that an amateur astronomer with a bit of aperture may have been able to witness the results. Because I didn't see anything, I've been looking all over the 'net to see if there is something that happened that makes all of the anticipation not seem so "empty".

This reminds me of the excitement when the rovers landed on Mars. My wife and I spent a lot of time looking at images from the twins. I guess we'll see over the next several days what the mission has brought.

David

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Ziggy943
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Re: LCROSS sightings anyone? [Re: janehoustonjones]
      #3380266 - 10/09/09 11:37 AM

Jane,

Steve and I had a very good view. On the limb was an outcropping, I don't know the name, but it had an illuminated overhang where the stuff below was not illuminated and we could see a little black notch behind it. It was an interesting formation the way it was presented this morning. This was an indication that seeing was pretty good.

I suspect the material down in a perpetually dark crater may just not be the same type of fluffy layer in areas exposed to sunlight. Therefore no plume or at least none that would be visible.

All was not wasted however, we did take the time to look at Beta Monocerus and Iota Cass, two of my favorite triples.

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Ziggy
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#1, 160mm F8 TEC (born 1-18-2007, 27 lbs, 45.5" long), on AP900
6" F17.5 (D&G lens) (first light 6-7-2008)
9" F/14.9 Alvan Clark (1915), on Byers 812
14.25 F/5.5 Newt in a roll off observatory
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Re: LCROSS sightings anyone? [Re: Ziggy943]
      #3380312 - 10/09/09 12:02 PM

No sign of the impact, but unusually good conditions allowed me to push the magnification past where I usually top off. So when I was convinced the Newt just wasn't going to cut it, I enjoyed a 90 minute session of lunar observing. In the steadier moments the view was amazing. And it was a beautiful, cool autumn morning in Tucson, into the bargain. I'm sorry that I didn't see anything of the impact (it was a long shot with an 8" scope anyway, from what I've read) but I'm glad I made the effort. The views were worth it.

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Re: LCROSS sightings anyone? [Re: Hipparchus]
      #3380346 - 10/09/09 12:24 PM

Quote:

Anyone remember Geraldo and Al Capone's vault?


But true!

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