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What is the best Moon Atlas?
      #3388117 - 10/13/09 09:38 PM

With a new 5-inch refractor coming, I am thinking I would like to get more involved in lunar observing. I'm an experienced observer but not necessarily in lunar. I'm looking for your recommendations on a good field usable lunar atlas that will hold my interest for awhile. Appreciate any input. Oh, and do I need a neutral density filter?? Thanks! Tom

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Re: What is the best Moon Atlas? new [Re: TomN]
      #3388178 - 10/13/09 10:11 PM

Vitual Moon Atlas is a free download , & you can print nightly charts .
The ND filter will come in handy for anytime your not viewing the crescent phase .

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Re: What is the best Moon Atlas? new [Re: starrancher]
      #3388221 - 10/13/09 10:29 PM

I'll second that recommendation. The Virtual Moon Atlas is probably the most versatile lunar reference currently available.

For something more portable, and to get you started since it sounds like your just getting started into moonwatching, the S&T Field Map of the Moon is hard to beat.

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Re: What is the best Moon Atlas? new [Re: desertstars]
      #3388618 - 10/14/09 06:10 AM

Hi Tom
I reckon the best tools are the ones you use the most - the VMA is great - my favourite Lunar tool is an old metal globe that is small but well labelled - I think it is from the late 60's.

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Re: What is the best Moon Atlas? new [Re: Matt Wastell]
      #3388645 - 10/14/09 07:16 AM

I agree with the other's recommendations. I’ve been observing quite a while, and also have just begun to concentrate on the moon. I use VMA to plan my night’s observations, and then use the S&T chart in my backyard. I live near the coast with high humidity so the laminated chart is great!

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Re: What is the best Moon Atlas? new [Re: Swamp Fox]
      #3389232 - 10/14/09 02:08 PM

The S&T/Rukl foldout atlas is numero uno for me. Especially with a 5-incher, the scale is perfect. VMA is great and will show you what things will look like, but the S&T map is *it* for actual observing. Only about $10, too!

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Re: What is the best Moon Atlas? new [Re: Matt Wastell]
      #3389235 - 10/14/09 02:10 PM

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my favourite Lunar tool is an old metal globe that is small but well labelled - I think it is from the late 60's.



I think I have one of those! About 6" in diameter, and spins on a tilted axis like a regular globe?

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Re: What is the best Moon Atlas? new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #3389371 - 10/14/09 03:09 PM

Rukl's atlas is very good and certainly my favourite but seems to be out of print and therefore attracting high prices on e-bay. I have an iphone with moon maps, lunar orbiter charts and starmap software installed that saves taking multiple books outside.

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Re: What is the best Moon Atlas? new [Re: markgliderpilot]
      #3390178 - 10/14/09 10:05 PM

V M A Pro has my vote, all the "bells & whistles" you could
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Re: What is the best Moon Atlas? new [Re: jim_m]
      #3390430 - 10/14/09 11:55 PM

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V M A Pro has my vote, all the "bells & whistles" you could
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There appears to be three versions. Which should I download?

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Re: What is the best Moon Atlas? new [Re: TomN]
      #3390441 - 10/15/09 12:03 AM

That's pretty much a personal choice . I think I just loaded the standard version & it does everything I need it to do . I don't have a real big computer so I tend to stay with the smaller downloads if it does the job .
I also use an older version of Stellarium partly for that reason but mostly because I actually like it better than the newer version .

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Re: What is the best Moon Atlas? new [Re: starrancher]
      #3391466 - 10/15/09 04:15 PM

Hi Tom,
The "Pro" seems to have more of everythimg than the other 2.
I like the little(2 mile) craters, many of these do not have names in the lesser versiond of the software.
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Re: What is the best Moon Atlas? new [Re: jim_m]
      #3391963 - 10/15/09 09:29 PM

Hello Tom,

I find for field use the Sky & Telescope's "Field Map of the Moon is great.
-- laminated so no worries about dew or peanut butter.
-- can be folded for each quadrant of the Moon.
-- has a list of approximately 1,000 features.
-- comes in two versions -- standard for eyes and binoculars and reversed (mirror image) for Refractors and Maksutovs.
The S&K web site shows it at $10.95 each, plus shipping.

Cheers, Duncan

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Re: What is the best Moon Atlas? new [Re: Blind-Cyclops]
      #3392061 - 10/15/09 10:27 PM

Just ordered that S&T Atlas. Thanks Duncan!

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Re: What is the best Moon Atlas? new [Re: TomN]
      #3393182 - 10/16/09 03:11 PM

Everyone should have a Rukl Moon Atlas or two. Amazon lists them for hundreds of dollars, but here's a tip. Buy the first edition issued by Astronomy. I have the S&T edition and the differences are minor at best. Definitely not worth the huge premium. Recently I picked up the Astronomy edition for $38. Amazon lists a copy for $44.98.

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Re: What is the best Moon Atlas? new [Re: bsim]
      #3395257 - 10/17/09 09:51 PM

Firefly books puts out a nice Lunar Atlas..."New Atlas of the Moon" by Legault and Brunier.
I highly recommend it!!


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Re: What is the best Moon Atlas? new [Re: TomN]
      #3396343 - 10/18/09 02:42 PM

I also like Alan Chu's "Photographic Moon Book." It's digital, but it's free. http://www.alanchuhk.com/Moonbook_3v3.pdf

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Re: What is the best Moon Atlas? new [Re: TomN]
      #3396614 - 10/18/09 05:12 PM

Mostly I use Rukl and the Virtual Moon Atlas. However, two other atlases deserve mention. The first, which is excellent, is available used on Amazon.com and was published in 1969. It is the Times Atlas of the Moon. It is hard to find a better atlas than that. The second is probably still in print... it is the Lunar Orbiter Photographic Atlas of the Near Side of the Moon edited by Charles Byrne and is published by Springer.

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Re: What is the best Moon Atlas? new [Re: revans]
      #3397633 - 10/19/09 09:15 AM

And don't forget the venerable old Hatfield Moon Atlas. There's something about that one that keeps drawing me back.

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Re: What is the best Moon Atlas? new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #3398196 - 10/19/09 02:39 PM

Yes... and also the Consolidated Lunar Atlas which is long out of print and any remaining copies are extremely costly... but it can be found here on line for free:

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/cla/

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Re: What is the best Moon Atlas? new [Re: revans]
      #3410680 - 10/25/09 07:49 PM

Hello Tom,
You may want to take a look at this web site too...
http://www.lunarrepublic.com/atlas/index.shtml

It seems to be very good for an online computer based reference.
Hold you mouse over various features and the names and sizes appear.

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Re: What is the best Moon Atlas? new [Re: Blind-Cyclops]
      #3411021 - 10/25/09 11:11 PM

Quote:

Hello Tom,
You may want to take a look at this web site too...
http://www.lunarrepublic.com/atlas/index.shtml

It seems to be very good for an online computer based reference.
Hold you mouse over various features and the names and sizes appear.




Very cool Duncan ! Thanks for posting ! I'll ad that to my favorites .
BTW hows the weather in Kitchener ? My family is all from there , then they moved to the States & I came along about a month later . I guess that makes me a "Dually" . eh ?

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Re: What is the best Moon Atlas? new [Re: starrancher]
      #3412088 - 10/26/09 02:13 PM

Wellll howdeee naaaybor, ! ! !

By chance... there wouldn't be a spare corner of the pasture down your way for me to sit-a-spell and look at the stars and moon... would there... would there... huh... huh... ???? (perddee pleeze!)

LOL

The weather last winter was totally busted -- only 3-4 night out of the whole winter were observing nights. Come spring, half the club couldn't spell "sky," much less "as-stron-nom-mee." Finding and naming constellations and stars... ? ...forget it. However, most of us have recovered just in time for another winter... Many folks here have lots of stuff crossed already -- fingers, toes, arms, legs, braided hair, beards and long upper-lip-hair-fuzz, etc.
Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to be working too well. You may have to mail us an astronomy dictionary come spring...

(ever bump into David Levy [another Canadian] in your travels down those long dusty roads or marshmallow roasts on mountain tops with your scopes?)

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Re: What is the best Moon Atlas? new [Re: Blind-Cyclops]
      #3414363 - 10/27/09 04:03 PM

Yep ! ...The southwest has got to have some of the darkest , cleanest skies that one could grab . High desert IMO is the best . A little altitude & an arid atmosphere . Haven't run into Levy yet . Maybe some day . I'd probably have to go down south to run into him . I think he likes it down around Jack Newtons' place .
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Re: What is the best Moon Atlas? new [Re: Blind-Cyclops]
      #3414640 - 10/27/09 06:32 PM

I've been looking for a good atlas to use at the telescope and havn't found one yet. Rukl's is a great atlas but difficult to use in the field as it does not lay flat.

I decided to make my own using the Consolidated Lunar Atlas Images available online. I hope to have it available for download/printing by Jan 1 2010.
Here's the low-res version of what I have so far. 76 images hand stitched together.

http://www.astronomylogs.com/CLAMosaicLR.jpg

The hi-res image is 43.5"x43.5" at 300 dpi. It's also a little over 3 GB. At that size I won't be able to offer it for download on my website


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Re: What is the best Moon Atlas? new [Re: Phred Smith]
      #3417106 - 10/28/09 10:11 PM

Quote:

I've been looking for a good atlas to use at the telescope and havn't found one yet. Rukl's is a great atlas but difficult to use in the field as it does not lay flat.

I decided to make my own using the Consolidated Lunar Atlas Images available online. I hope to have it available for download/printing by Jan 1 2010.
Here's the low-res version of what I have so far. 76 images hand stitched together.

http://www.astronomylogs.com/CLAMosaicLR.jpg

The hi-res image is 43.5"x43.5" at 300 dpi. It's also a little over 3 GB. At that size I won't be able to offer it for download on my website




Hi,
I like best the Rukl maps in the Collins Atlas of the Sky (Harper Collins, publisher. Storm Dunlop, author). Rukl did the moon maps.

A convenent 9 x 11 size book. with 16 large detailed maps by Rukl. I like it much better than the Rukl Atlas since there are fewer maps and so it's easier to know where you are on the moon. Perhaps a very advanced lunar observer might prefer the Rukl Atlas itself.

Opposite each moon map is a reversed version to match the view through SCTs and through refractors that use diagonals.

The book also contains fine large deep sky charts, to mag. 7.5 , by Wil Tirion, one for each constellation, and also large overall sky maps, also by Tiron.

A great beautiful hardcover book for $30. available often at overstock sale for $15. Somehow I wound up with three.

By far the best book for understanding what you are seeing on the moon is by the Sky & Telescope columnist Charles Wood: The Modern Moon: A Personal View (Sky Publishing). Wood is a lunar geologist who knows what he is talking about. He gives the big picture conceptually as well as giving details, and he has a charming writing style.

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Re: What is the best Moon Atlas? new [Re: auriga]
      #3417398 - 10/28/09 11:59 PM

Bill Meyers said:

Quote:

By far the best book for understanding what you are seeing on the moon is by the Sky & Telescope columnist Charles Wood: The Modern Moon: A Personal View (Sky Publishing). Wood is a lunar geologist who knows what he is talking about. He gives the big picture conceptually as well as giving details, and he has a charming writing style.




Bill is absolutely correct. After I read Woods book I felt as though I knew what I was looking at much better. As I read his book I had Rukl's atlas with me and matched what I was reading about with what I was seeing in the atlas. Great experience and recommend everyone try it.

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Re: What is the best Moon Atlas? new [Re: auriga]
      #3419047 - 10/29/09 08:11 PM

Thanks Bill, I didn't know about the Collins Atlas. It's on order now from B&N.
I still think I'm going to complete my Lunar Atlas. I'm having to much fun to stop at this point.
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Re: What is the best Moon Atlas? new [Re: starrancher]
      #3419902 - 10/30/09 10:28 AM

Quote:

Vitual Moon Atlas is a free download , & you can print nightly charts .
The ND filter will come in handy for anytime your not viewing the crescent phase .




Since there is no need to preserve dark adaptation, you can just fire your computer up full blast and stare at it. VMA is probably as useful as any astro program ever written. While you are gazing, you can learn about the geology with the overlays. Really fantastic.

-drl


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