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Just a heads up on good deal for a solid medium duty tripod with 3/8" stud for $75 plus shipping.
http://www.bigbinoculars.com/tradeins.htm
These are blem tripods and mine does have a small sealed split and signs of wood filler, but finish feels smooth and just as solid as rest of tripod.
Also picked up a Bogan 128RC fluid head which I intended for a travel tripod, but was curious to see how it looked on the Oberwerk.
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Closeup of blem.
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Thanks for the heads up Jim. I just ordered one...
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Mine arrived today too. Got the same tripod and head. Put my TV Ranger ( which just came Friday ) on it, set it outside just before dusk. Thought I'd get a quick look at Jupiter to try things out. The clouds rolled in and it started snowing ! It figures, three new items ... it will probably be poor skies for me for a month !
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Thanks for the heads up on the Blem deal, I just opened mine up and have yet to find the blemish/s, but maybe my standards are too low.
I needed a sturdy tripod for photograghy and maybe build some mods so it will fit the Voyager head, also the e/p tray for the Voyager/Portamount fits this like a glove.
I think I'll make and stain a nice Appleply or Baltic Birch tray to match the tripod
Also got the Bogen 501HDV head to round out the purchase.
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I think I'll make and stain a nice Appleply or Baltic Birch tray to match the tripod
That's going to look sharp.
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With the mod I'll make to use the Voyager and or Porta's head on this tripod will really be a good deal as this tripod just might be a tad more sturdy than the one GTO makes and has been used for these mounts and at this price I had to have one. The trays I'll make will hopefully have a side or rim so stuff won't roll off and no holes should it be used for other purposes and then have seperate one for eyepieces as well. I'll be stopping by the local wood dealer on Monday to pick up some material<G> Like Curly said,,, I can hardly wait. m2
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How does that tripod compare to that voyager tripod?
I might be interested if it can be sturdy enough for a EM10 Tak mount. I will have the stock tripod but would not mind having a spare and for 75 smacks, I can live with it.
Plus, what was the shipping on it to NYC or Flatlandia?
Thanks, S
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Oberwerk is in Ohio. Shipping for the tripod to me in Wisconsin was $13.
I have gotten mine out under the stars a number of times now and like it alot. Very sturdy. The blems are not very noticeable and the unit is still attractive also. At $75 plus shipping, it was money well spent. I also had a head shipped along with it and there were no added shipping charges to do that. I ordered over the phone toll free and service was friendly and helpful.
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Shipping to NYC was a very reasonable $15.
Don't know about the EM-10 head being able to mount on the base plate with the 3/8" stud without some kind of mod.
I was able to mount a Giro 3 using an extra Tripod 3/8" Adapter and swapping the 3/8" stud with a metric bolt. Had to do a little filing to accommadate the larger metric M10 bolt.
Gives me a lighter tripod option for the Giro which was previously on a CG-5 tripod with SVP extension.
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Why wait till Monday when I had some nice enough plywood to make a tray today.
I "just" happened to have stain that was "almost" the same as tripod legs so here it is.
Just need to go get some cheap foam brushes to put the poly on.
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Looks good, Manny. 
Now get that poly coat on!
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I just got one of these and it's very nice. Only "blem" I could find was a slight (1/32" deep) indentation about 3 inches long on one of the legs where it slid up against something harder. For better than 1/2 off, I'll live with it.
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I still have not found the blem on mine.
When I got it, the delivering agency who's name I will not disclose already had several large holes in the box so theres no way I would know IF any damage to the tripod was the blem or their handiwork.
It's a heck of a deal for something that will happen to the tripod any way, unless one keeps it as a museum piece.
I already made some adaptor plates for my various mounts to fit to tripod.
Below is the tray I made, flat top with sides to keep my stuff from falling off.
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Sweet! 
I'm in the process of ordering a Oberwerk 100mm Binocular Tripod Pier Extension and will try to convert it for use with my Telepod or Giro 3 alt/az head. I'am hoping the extra height will allow some of my telescopes to clear the Oberwerk wooden tripod legs when pointing near zenith.
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Manny,
Nice job on the sides. Don't see any kerfs, did you have to steam it to get the bend? Also don't see fasteners. What glue did you use? Thanks.
Dennis
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Hi Dennis, Right now its a friction fit, cut the hoops last night and stained them and slid them together for the shot. I have to put the poly on as well. Have yet to determine how I will attach the hoop to the flat. Can't give away all my secrets<G> m2
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I'm in the process of ordering a Oberwerk 100mm Binocular Tripod Pier Extension and will try to convert it for use with my Telepod or Giro 3 alt/az head.
I'am hoping the extra height will allow some of my telescopes to clear the Oberwerk wooden tripod legs when pointing near zenith.
Worked!,after some mods and a trip to the hardware store.
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Looks very nice there Jim,,, what scope is that on there? m2
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Thanks Manny. Scope is a TV Genesis SDF.
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What is the size of the Oberwerk "tray" screw hole? it looks less then 3/8.
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What is the size of the Oberwerk "tray" screw hole? it looks less then 3/8.
Thanks
The center hole(s) in the spreader on the legs?
1/4" in the center and on the 3 spreader bars. Those Vixen/Synta triangular accessory trays can attach through those holes.
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Interesting.
How well would the 501HDV head on that tripod work as a mount for one of my larger refractors? I assume the head can be looked down. Can one point towards zenith? And if so, what adaptor would I need to hook a dovetail plate to the mount head?
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Jim,
That's the one. Is it 1/4-20 size?
Thanks
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Interesting.
How well would the 501HDV head on that tripod work as a mount for one of my larger refractors? I assume the head can be looked down. Can one point towards zenith? And if so, what adaptor would I need to hook a dovetail plate to the mount head?
Pointing towards zenith with long ota tube would require a extension or elevating type column to avoid contacting tripod legs. Bogan 475 tripod would be a good match with the 501 head. The head would have a 1/4"-20 bolt on the quick release shoe and could attach to the 1/4" threaded hole of the dovetail. May not be the best way to go with a heavy refractor.
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Jim, That's the one. Is it 1/4-20 size?
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Yes, a 1/4"-20 bolt will slip through. 3/8" , too big.
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Here is a very sturdy mount. It is a Helix Hercules on an Oberwerk tripod. Very sturdy indeed! Also it is one of the smoothest operating mounts I have ever felt.
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Cool setup, Dan. 
Yep! I use to a have Hercules fork on the Oberwerk, too.
Very capable alt/az!
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I highly recomend the combo.
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Can the Hercules be totally locked down?
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Oh yes. Note the size of the tension nobs. Lots of surface area to adjust from butter snooth to lift the rig up tight.
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This might be the ideal alt-azimuth mount I've been looking for. What would I need as far as mounting a Vixen style dovetail to the base of the Hercules?
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The oberwerk is the tripod and has a 3/8 16 threaded post. The Hercules is the helix brand mount. It takes either a 3/8 16 or a 1/4 20 stud
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But is there a way to mount a standard dovetail bracket to the swivel base of the Hercules so I can attach my scopes using the rings and dovetail shoe?
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Oh. Sorry. No you need a saddle plate to put on the mount.
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Or if you have a threaded set of holes in the dove tail, you could screw a couple of thumb screws to the dovetail from underneath. My WO ZS80 has a L bracket I will get you a close up pic if you like.
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But is there a way to mount a standard dovetail bracket to the swivel base of the Hercules so I can attach my scopes using the rings and dovetail shoe?
Yes. I used this dovetail clamp on my Helix 8" fork.
http://www.scopestuff.com/ss_ds13.htm
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I only put one thumb screw in but should get the Idea. Sorry my photography skills leave a lot to be desired.
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My Oberwerk tripod came arrived today. First impressions - solid, sturdy, heavy, looks good, no Oberwerk engravings anywhere. I found no blems. One little scratch doesn't count, I am sure I will make some more with usage. $75 with $14 shipping to CA. Took 4 days.
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Your gonna love that tripod! I do mine.
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But is there a way to mount a standard dovetail bracket to the swivel base of the Hercules so I can attach my scopes using the rings and dovetail shoe?
Yes. I used this dovetail clamp on my Helix 8" fork.
http://www.scopestuff.com/ss_ds13.htm
Did you have to drill any additional holes?
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I don't mean to answer for Jim, but I think that the holes are kind of universal. (see pic)
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Thanks. That appears to be a mount to consider. And with the tripod going for $75, adding the Hercules brings it to a total of $374.95. That's less than the Portamount originally listed for.
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Oh, I forgot. Plus the dovetail adaptor from Scopestuff that goes for $44. Still, it sounds like a good deal.
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Thanks, Dan!
Yeah, holes of dovetail clamp should line up with the Helix cradle. Don't recall doing any mods to make it fit.
Not sure if Helix is still selling those mounts anymore, they do turned up for sale used.
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He better be in business after I spent all this time selling his mount! WHERE"S MY COMMISSION?
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His site is still up. He is out of 8" and I don't see the 5", but it looks like he is still in business.
All I can say is, give him a call.
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My Oberwerk tripod arrived last month, along with an adapter for my Unistar Light alt-az. I'm still looking for blemishes but so far haven't found much of anything. It certainly was a bargain and I'm very happy with my new set-up.
Now, if only the snow and cold would go away. . .
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Here's a photo.
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Nice setup!
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I ordered one as well...
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I'm in the process of ordering a Oberwerk 100mm Binocular Tripod Pier Extension and will try to convert it for use with my Telepod or Giro 3 alt/az head. I'am hoping the extra height will allow some of my telescopes to clear the Oberwerk wooden tripod legs when pointing near zenith.
Worked!,after some mods and a trip to the hardware store.
I just purchased the tripod and pier extension with the same idea. What did you do have to do exactly to mod the extension and mate it to the Telepod head? Thanks.
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Hi Nightsky.
First thing you need to do is remove the cone shaped bearing assembly from the tube by removing the 3 small screws along the circumference. The top part will then come out.(makes a nice paper weight )
Next, remove the 3/8" mounting plate from the Oberwerk tripod. Take the extension tube and line up the 2 tabs on the bottom with the slot openings of the tripod hub. Once set, it can be locked in by turning the tube left or right. It can be further secureded by dropping in and tightening the retaining ring that previously held the round plate with the small 3/8" stud.
Next, remove the small 3/8" stud that is screwed into the disk with a hex wrench. Put the disk on top of the extension tube, flipped over from it's original position or the smaller disk surface on the bottom. This is the position where the disk needs to be sucured to the pier extension which is now the hard part. I did this by purchasing 3' of 3/8"-16 threaded rod from a hardware store. Along with some oversided washers and a 3/8" butterfly nut. The threaded rod neds to be neatly cut down to 10-12" or so or long enough to go through the length of the pier tube top to allow for threading a mount head head and down on the bottom of the tripod hub where it can be tightened with a butterfly nut. Here's the tricky part. You'll need some kind bracket or washer to go beneath the tripod hub so the bottom of the threaded rod can be tighted. I used a 3" by 1" by 1/4" piece of aluminum from with a 3/?8" hole drilled in the middle to allow the threaded rod to pass through and be tightened with the butterfly nut, the 3" by 1" by 1/4" piece of aluminum will be grabbing hold of thebottom part of the tripod hub and prevent the treaded rod from pulling through.
I'll try and take some detailed pictures as soon as I can. Been working long hours and have not had much free time lately but think this mod is a nice feature to have for those with longer ota tubes that want to view object near zenith without interferring coming into contact with the tripod legs.
Sorry to over complicate steps, coffee has not kicked in yet , but hope this sheds some light.
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Thanks! I managed to get the top part off of the pier by removing the three small screws, and from your pic figured to use the aluminum disc upside down with a threaded rod. I just wasn't sure how to secure it on the bottom.
The pier extension itself is quite impressive, and very well made for only $30. Strange that the little disc with the 3/8 stud costs $25.
When you place the little aluminum disc upsdie down on the top of the pier, it's not an exact fit. There is a little play, maybe 1/4" all around. Does the Telepod head shift or move at all when everything is tightened up?
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It's pretty secure once you tighten up the 3/8 rod from the bottom with the wingnut.
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Underneath tripod hub, where you can see how the top disk is secured to the extension pier.
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Great pics! Your solution is perfect, exactly what I was looking for. Thanks again!
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I finally got around to making adaptors so I can now put my Voyager head on this tripod, should be a big improvement over the factory legs with the Oberwerk in place.
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This is getting a little off-topic but may be helpful to Oberwerk owners. I have two Oberwerks (a Jarrah and a blem) and encountered a similar problem on both.
If you look at the pic that Jim posted looking up at the underside of the tripod hub, you see six bolt heads, three on the hub and three that secure the hub to the tripod legs. On both my tripods, these bolts were just snug, but not tight. This allowed twisting and flex in the legs and in the hub. I used a socket to tighten these bolts up--very snug--and it made quite an improvement in the stability of the tripod.
Check your bolts!
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Great tip, Phil! 
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I finally got around to making adaptors so I can now put my Voyager head on this tripod, should be a big improvement over the factory legs with the Oberwerk in place. m2
Looking forward to seeing that mod. I may also go with a Voyager head on the Oberwerk tripod for a FS-102.
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Yes, mine were very loose as well,,, were a tad more thna finger tight m2
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I have ordered and received mine. I was very impressed with by the service I received from Oberwerk.
I've now mounted my AT Voyager on it, using the "Paul Schroeder" fix (i.e., a big washer).
I'll also be interested to see what Manny has come up with.
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I am thinking about getting one of these but I have a few questions:
1) Would I be able to mount my CG-4 head on this tripod? So far I've only seen pictures of people mounting alt/az heads on them.
2) Would it be an improvement over the stock steel legs that came with my CG-4?
3) Could it handle the weight of my 120mm refractor?
4) Would it make a good tripod for a higher quality EQ head? At some point I'd like to upgrade from the CG-4.
5) Is it better than the stock tripod that comes with the Astro-Tech Voyager mount?
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Can't answer all your questions, but:
3. What is the weight and focal length of your refractor? Length can play as important part as weight.
5. Yes.
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1) Would I be able to mount my CG-4 head on this tripod? So far I've only seen pictures of people mounting alt/az heads on them.
The top of the Oberwerk tripod, where the alt/az heads are mounted, is flat and not suited to accept a EQ-4 which protrudes on the bottom and needs a socket or hole to mate with. Universal Astronomics makes such an adapter for thier surveyor's type tripod but don't think it will work with the Oberwerk without some kind of modification.
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Jim -- I joined the list of people today who have ordered one of these tripods. Also have a Giro with a 10mm head to put on it. When I ordered it, I thought I might be able to remove the 3/8" bolt and replace it with the 10mm bolt. After reading your post, I'm wondering why you needed to order the extra 3/8" adapter? Since I don't have the tripod yet, I may be missing something that will be clearer after it arrives.
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Hi,
I actually had a extra 3/8 adapter plate and liked the idea of being able to use different heads on that tripod.
FWIW. The way I replaced the 3/8"-16 stud with a 10mm bolt was by reaming the threaded hole with a round file which of course will ruined the threads but did allow the 10mm bolt to slip through. You may be able to rethread the disk with a spare 10mm bolt but the goal is to for the disk to be bolted to bottom of the Giro head.
Here's what mine looks like, note the need for a washer to lower the height of the 10mm bolt protrusion in order for the Giro head to be screwed down flush with the disk that in turn wil be secured down with the threaded tripod hub ring.
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Top of Oberwerk tripod with regular 3/8"adapter and 10mm adapter held in my hand. Because 10mm bolt is not threaded, care must be take to hold in place till Giro female threads grab hold and tighten together.
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Jim -- Thanks for the photos and the information. This will be a big help. Pretty much what I thought it would be, but nice to know for sure now. Exchanging this kind of info is what makes CN very worthwhile.
John on the North Coast of Or-e-gone.
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I picked one up a while back. It had some dents and dings but was well worth the price.
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This is getting a little off-topic but may be helpful to Oberwerk owners. I have two Oberwerks (a Jarrah and a blem) and encountered a similar problem on both.
If you look at the pic that Jim posted looking up at the underside of the tripod hub, you see six bolt heads, three on the hub and three that secure the hub to the tripod legs. On both my tripods, these bolts were just snug, but not tight. This allowed twisting and flex in the legs and in the hub. I used a socket to tighten these bolts up--very snug--and it made quite an improvement in the stability of the tripod.
Check your bolts!
Phil
BE CAREFUL WITH THE BOLTS!
I have this tripod (it came with the William Optics EZ Mount). After reading the post quoted above, I checked the bolts and thought they should be snugged up a bit. When tightening one of the bolts between the legs (it holds the end of the hinge in place) a couple of small pieces (about 5mm square) on the outside bottom edges cracked and came off. 
Fortunately, these corners don't have any functional value holding the hinges in place and simply cover the hinge a bit on the bottom. I simply super-glued the chips back and all is well. Upon closer examination, there is a manufacturing defect in this particular casting that the edge isn't even, and this resulted in pressure at certain points when the bolt was tightened. It is still under warranty from WO, but since the operation is not impaired and it looks ok with the pieces glued back in place, I'm not going to bother getting a warranty repair.
My point is that these bolts are not very tight for a reason, and really should be left alone unless there is wobble in the tripod. I learnd this the hard way.
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They have apparently sold out. If anyone is looking for one, I have 2 for sale in the swap and shop (no profit).
Clear Skies and Peace Out!
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They have apparently sold out. If anyone is looking for one, I have 2 for sale in the swap and shop (no profit).
Clear Skies and Peace Out!
Bob Hart
PM sent. Looks like I might need some spare parts for mine!
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They have apparently sold out. If anyone is looking for one, I have 2 for sale in the swap and shop (no profit).
Clear Skies and Peace Out!
Bob Hart
I don't think these are sold out just yet. At least, I ordered one 2 nights ago and they still seem to be offered now. (I got tired quickly of kneeling down on the ground in the cold before my Voyager mount.)
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Wow, not only are they still in stock, but they ship really fast. I ordered it at about 11pm on Monday 2/23/09 and it arrived shortly after noon on Wednesday 2/25/09.
Now I just have to figure out how to attach my Voyager mount to it. I just saw over in this thread that Paul Schroeder got it to work by using a 2 1/2 inch washer on the under side of the tripod in the place of the included adapter plate.
I also have to get a larger allen wrench to remove and re attach the Voyager mount from the tripod. The bolt on the underside appears to require something in the area of a 10mm wrench which is larger than I have or than those included with the Voyager.
I guess a trip to Home Depot is in order.
So far the Oberwerk tripod seems very nice. I do see a few blemishes but nothing I mind at all. Just the sorts of dings or scratches that it will get through normal use anyway.
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Mine showed up today - shipped from Ohio last Friday, arrived in Oregon on Wednesday, shipping cost of fifteen bucks. I've found one very small nick in a tripod leg, but absolutely nothing else. Amazing. Very sturdy and nice appearance. This has to be the best buy this side of the moon!
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First thing you need to do is remove the cone shaped bearing assembly from the tube by removing the 3 small screws along the circumference. The top part will then come out.(makes a nice paper weight
Jim, I ordered the 100mm extension for the Oberwerk and it arrived today, but I'm not having any luck getting the top of that thing to come off. I looked at your instructions and noticed you had three screws to remove at the top of the extension column. Mine has four. Took all four of the little devils out and cannot get the top of the thing to separate from the column. I've tried prying it loose and trying to jar it loose from underneath with a piece of pipe, but it doesn't budge. Also tried to get either the post or one of the discs to unscrew or loosen, but no luck there either. Did you have that problem with yours? It almost looks like the holes that the screws came out of are actually some kind of insert that connects the pier and the metal fixture inside it. Anyway, any ideas?
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Hi John.
Yes, there are 4 screws(gotta stop writing posts when I'am not awake ) and I also forgot to mention that after the 4 screws are removed, the bearing assemble then needs to be unscrewed from the extension tube. I was able to do mine by hand, by gripping the knurled part with one hand and the tube with the other hand. You should then have the tube seperated from the cone shaped azimuth bearing.
From there, you can go back to what I did to connect it all together.
Here's what the top azimuth bearing assembly looks like once it's off the tube.
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Jim, Thanks again. I figured it out about half an hour after I sent you the message. I noticed the shaft had threads at the bottom, so I thought maybe I could loosen it first and start to make some progress. I put a pair of vise grips on it and it didn't budge, but the fitting at the bottom begin to unscrew, which of course is what I wanted. It never occurred to me that it was threaded - from underneath, it looked like the thing was press-fitted, and the four screws were there to hold it. Anyway, I finally got it off, but even then it kept binding about every half turn. That thing was really on tight. In fact, that whole extension assembly is really built like a tank - nice piece of work, almost a shame to take it apart. Headed out tomorrow to get a 10mm threaded rod for it. Thanks for all the pictures you posted on this thing. You're a great source of information.
John in Oregon
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Hi,
Does anyone know what the thread form is for the hole in the center of the three piece tripod brace. I tried to thread in a 5/16 bolt but it won't go in more than 1 turn. Is this hole metric? or maybe a 5/16 with a different thread pitch?
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I did not know that hole had threads. 
I did find a M6 bolt to be too small and M10 bolt too big. Maybe an M8 metric bolt. You could also just slip a 1/4" bolt through and secure with a butterfly nut beneath,that is, if your intention is to secure a accessory tray.
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It's an M-8 m2
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Jim, I tried to PM you but you have that function turned off. Your tray should get mailed this week. m2
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Sorry, my pm is on now.
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Yes I'm wanting to secure my homebuilt tray. I thought of just slipping in a 1/4" bolt and a wing nut right after I posted. I tried that this morning and it works fine. Thanks anyway for the hole thread info.
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I did not know that hole had threads. 
I did find a M6 bolt to be too small and M10 bolt too big. Maybe an M8 metric bolt. You could also just slip a 1/4" bolt through and secure with a butterfly nut beneath,that is, if your intention is to secure a accessory tray.
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Got mine today. I can't see a single problem with it at all - visually looks new. Mounted my Stellarvue M1 mount / Meca rod using a manfrotto 5/8-11 adapter plate. Thanks to all on this thread that recommended this deal.
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Glad it's working for you - Welcome to Cloudy Nights!
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Arrgghh...Ever hear the 'ol phrase "measure twice and cut once? Case in point...I just spent a couple of hours cutting out two round accessory trays. One for my Atlas mount and one for my new Oberwerk tripod. I cut out a nice pattern of 2" and 1.25" holes in each tray and fit them in place. Everything looked great. Then I decided to test the fit of the EP holes before applying the finish. My first 1.25" EP almost dropped right through onto the floor! What the heck? I checked my drill press and realized I had chucked up a 1 3/8 bit instead of a 1.25" bit!!!
My two trays are junk. And I have to start all over.
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Re: Oberwerk wooden tripod blem special
[Re: John Miele]
#2979925 - 03/12/09 04:01 PM Attachment (72 downloads)
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Ooops! Well, if at first you don't succeed ...get another piece of wood. I'm sure you'll be successful next time, John. 
Talk about timing. I just received a eyepiece tray that was hand crafted and given to me as a gift from Manny Myles for my Oberwerk tripod. 
What a beauty, it really dresses up the tripod and allows easy access to eyepieces without having to fumble around a case.
Thanks again Manny, you are a true craftsman!
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John Miele
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Re: Oberwerk wooden tripod blem special
[Re: Jim7728]
#2980371 - 03/12/09 08:26 PM
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Beautiful tray! Manny made a bracket for my Voyager mount and it was perfectly done. He is quite a gifted craftsman.
Well, I guess I'll be making more sawdust this weekend. And I'll triple check everything before drilling holes!
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Manny Myles
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Re: Oberwerk wooden tripod blem special
[Re: Jim7728]
#2980648 - 03/12/09 11:16 PM
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Looks very nice BUT my holes seem off center ! D'OH! I never run out of kindling when I do any wood work, at least my mistkes are still usefull<G> m2
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Re: Oberwerk wooden tripod blem special
[Re: Jim7728]
#2980862 - 03/13/09 03:09 AM
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Darn nice looking tray, Jim. Congrats!
John
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Re: Oberwerk wooden tripod blem special
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#3043767 - 04/14/09 04:08 PM
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Hello All, Finally managed to order mine today!..... Now what mount do I put on it (35lbs of tubes) and I want to do astrophoto........ My wife better love me.
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dvb
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Re: Oberwerk wooden tripod blem special
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#3045042 - 04/15/09 10:04 AM
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Well, one out of three -
Your wife will love you better - she'll appreciate the beautiful wood.
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Jim7728
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Re: Oberwerk wooden tripod blem special
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#3045072 - 04/15/09 10:21 AM Attachment (87 downloads)
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Glad to see BB still has some left.
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Now what mount do I put on it (35lbs of tubes) and I want to do astrophoto........
35lbs(?) is pushing the limits of what I consider to be a solid medium duty tripod. I assume for astro photo, you're looking for a equatorial head which would require some sort of adapter to mate with the tripods 3/8" stud. Good luck!
Here's one last photo of the Oberwerk tripod with "modified" extension and "Manny made" eyepiece tray.
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Re: Oberwerk wooden tripod blem special
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#3045655 - 04/15/09 04:45 PM Attachment (72 downloads)
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On this particular tripod, keep a periodic eye on the spreader (just under the head) that hold the two upper leg dowels into the top tripod plate. Look under the top of the leg assembly where each leg attaches to the top plate. There is a small bolt under there that tightens a plastic spreader. That spreader is what holds the two leg dowels into the upper assembly. Let one of them get loose and someday you will pick up your tripod and the two leg dowels may slip right out of the head plate. Mine did, several years ago. Hasn't happened since. You also want to keep them tight just to maintain stability in that tripod. Loose leg spreader bolts will add considerably to shakiness.
Keep those bolts tight and you should never have a problem.
26# of Oberwerk BT100 with TV14mm Radians at 44x100. Rock solid image.
edz
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