Lord Beowulf
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Re: The ultimate CGEM topic ...
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#3020032 - 04/02/09 01:15 PM
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But where's the link for the new saddle? (Not that I'm willing to spring for it yet, esp. since I don't have anything to put it on!) It's in all the knob pics, but I didn't find it listed separately. Anthony needs to have a saddle + knobs package too.
Beo
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mclewis1
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Re: The ultimate CGEM topic ...
[Re: Lord Beowulf]
#3020258 - 04/02/09 03:24 PM
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Beo,
He probably should have labeled the link CGEM Products or something like that instead of CGEM Knobs.
That link has the pics of all the new CGEM specific products (knobs and saddles), then the product ordering links with descriptions are listed down the right hand side including specific ordering links for the new saddle ... with black or orange knobs.
It's just a little different than the way he's organized things in the past.
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Lord Beowulf
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Re: The ultimate CGEM topic ...
[Re: mclewis1]
#3020661 - 04/02/09 07:31 PM
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Ah, just missed that as I scrolled down. Still, he needs a saddle/knob kit as who needs the two extra knobs then?
Beo
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NickCat
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Re: The ultimate CGEM topic ...
[Re: Lord Beowulf]
#3021030 - 04/02/09 10:50 PM
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Just as a heads up...
I tried to update my HC and MC firmware today to 4.16 and 6.08 respectively. HC update went flawlessly, MC didn't work. Called and spoke with Celestron and it appears there is an issue with MCupdate that needs to be resolved. Tech wasn't to specific on a release date for the corrected software, but they are aware of the issue and working on it.
The error you'll get is about the bootloader needing to be updated in order to update the motor control, but when you agree to update the bootloader an error pops up saying it can't complete the programming.
I couldn't find any other reports yet, so I hope this helps shorten someone else's search for the answer.
And to jump back on topic, I ordered the orange set of knobs from ADM earlier this week, can't wait for them to arrive.
I was tempted to pick up the new saddle as well, but I already have the losmandy-to-vixen adapter for mine. Guess I'll just wait till the chipped powdercoating on the stock saddle bugs me enough to replace it.
I also found why I was having issue getting my initial alignments going faster. The index for "home" on the DEC axis was off by at least 3/16th to one side. I assumed they were adjusted properly from the factory, but I guess not.
Also where is everyone elses decal for "home" on the RA axis? Mine isn't on the adjustable collar, but above it on the mount itself. So the two decals aren't right next to each other. I wanted to peel and move it today, but I was afraid it would never stick right again.
Speaking of adjusting the axises... is there a proper method for finding that perfectly centered location in both directions? I could only really eyeball it today, along with using a level to try to narrow it down.
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waassaabee
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Re: The ultimate CGEM topic ...
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#3021140 - 04/02/09 11:59 PM
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Thanks for the MCUpdate update..
If I'm not mistaken, the index marks are merely a reference point to start the alignment, to mark 0,0 so to speak. From there the model is made from the alignment and calibration stars. So if you are not exactly on the mark, no sweat.
With the CG5 I would point the counterweight shaft down and center polaris in the viewfinder as the stickers had fallen off.
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PhilCo126
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Re: The ultimate CGEM topic ...
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#3022261 - 04/03/09 03:37 PM
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Any more CGEM photos 
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Doug6952
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Re: The ultimate CGEM topic ...
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#3026120 - 04/05/09 04:54 PM
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Does the CGEM come with a dovetail plate? I would eventually get a plate from ADM, but wanted to know if it comes with one that I could use temporarily.
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AntarcticDave
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Re: The ultimate CGEM topic ...
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#3026152 - 04/05/09 05:07 PM
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No, no plate with the mount.
Folks - just an FYI, Celestron now has an additional 11 lb weight for the CGEM. I ordered one this week from OPT, I had been using an old CG4 weight with the standard 17 lb. It'll be nice to have all CGEM weights.
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PhilCo126
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Re: The ultimate CGEM topic ...
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#3027252 - 04/06/09 09:04 AM
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Lane, is the half pillar similar like the one below?
How does the half pillar interface look like compared to the top interface of the CGEM tripod ?
I guess You have to remove the little 5 centimeters azimuth mast from the tripod head and put it ontop of the half pillar ?
http://www.teleskop-express.de/shop/product_info.php/language/de/info/p421_Saeulenaufsatz-fuer-EQ6-und-Atlas.html
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PhilCo126
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Re: The ultimate CGEM topic ...
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#3027262 - 04/06/09 09:10 AM
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Meanwhile, You know what time it is when such pictures appear on CloudyNights.com 
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Lane
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Re: The ultimate CGEM topic ...
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#3027452 - 04/06/09 10:53 AM
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Lane, is the half pillar similar like the one below?
How does the half pillar interface look like compared to the top interface of the CGEM tripod ?
I guess You have to remove the little 5 centimeters azimuth mast from the tripod head and put it ontop of the half pillar ?
http://www.teleskop-express.de/shop/product_info.php/language/de/info/p421_Saeulenaufsatz-fuer-EQ6-und-Atlas.html
Yes - that is the same one I have.
The top looks the same as the existing mount.
You are correct, the 5cm mast is simply moved from the mount to the pillar.
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coopfore1
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Re: The ultimate CGEM topic ...
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#3027643 - 04/06/09 12:26 PM
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Dave, Did you get the 11 lbs weight yet? Does it match the 17 lbs weight that came with the mount, or is it something diff. Thks Gary
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AntarcticDave
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Re: The ultimate CGEM topic ...
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#3027912 - 04/06/09 02:34 PM
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Hi Gary,
It hasn't arrived yet - sometime this week. The Celestron part number is CE-94203. The photos certainly appear to be CGEM, and the part number matches the Celestron page. OPT link Celestron link
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coopfore1
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Re: The ultimate CGEM topic ...
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#3028038 - 04/06/09 03:38 PM
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Dave, Thank You for the info. Let us know what you think when you get it. For a long while everyone was saying extra matching cw was not available. Thanks for posting I would have never known... Gary
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PhilCo126
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Re: The ultimate CGEM topic ...
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#3028047 - 04/06/09 03:39 PM
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The 5 centimeters "mast" we're talking about is in fact AKA the tripod Alignement Peg 
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AlienRatDog
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Re: The ultimate CGEM topic ...
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#3028304 - 04/06/09 05:39 PM
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Hey is there any polar alignment scope for it?
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mclewis1
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Re: The ultimate CGEM topic ...
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#3028361 - 04/06/09 06:07 PM
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Hey is there any polar alignment scope for it?
Not necessary, use the All Star Polar Alignment routine in the HC.
But there is the option of using the same (expensive) unit as provided for the CGE.
Edited by mclewis1 (04/06/09 06:10 PM)
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ned_l
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Re: The ultimate CGEM topic ...
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#3029451 - 04/07/09 09:29 AM
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I am also considering getting one. My current scopes both have vixen style dovetail bars. Would it be better to replace them with the Losmandy style plates, or get the replacement saddle that ADM offers? I am mostly just trying to figure out costs. To put a Losmandy style plate on my SV 102ED, I would probably need to get rings for it to replace the clam shell. Though it looks like SV may have a plate that fits the clam shell. Either way, it seems easier to just replace the saddle, though that is not cheap.
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Blixx
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Re: The ultimate CGEM topic ...
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#3029551 - 04/07/09 10:30 AM
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Ned,
You can get a duel saddle plate that fits vixen style bars at scopestuff. It can also be turned in to a single style adapter plate for one scope. It costs about $100, I like it a lot. I can do side by side AP and I can put my C6R on it if I want to do visual. You get two for the price of one.
Dan
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PhilCo126
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Re: The ultimate CGEM topic ...
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#3029852 - 04/07/09 01:11 PM
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There're some good photos in the "Celestron CGEM" Yahoo Group
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