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skybsd
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EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8?
      #4265072 - 12/22/10 03:12 PM

Aussie Astro community buzz suggests that the recently showcased Skywatcher-EQ-7 has been terminated in favour of another mount.

Synta's AP distributor (Tasco) apparently released the following announcement:

"Skywatcher announces that production of the EQ7 has been terminated and a new EQ8 is in design"

Merry X'Mas all

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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: skybsd]
      #4265130 - 12/22/10 03:31 PM

Well, that didn't last long. I love the speculation that the reason was '7' being an unlucky number in Chinese Culture. Some building in the west have no 13th floor!

Merry Xmas to you skybsd!


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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: nemo129]
      #4265182 - 12/22/10 03:45 PM

Hi Kirk,
Fun, isn't it

Many happy returns!!!

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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: nemo129]
      #4265295 - 12/22/10 04:24 PM

Quote:

Well, that didn't last long. I love the speculation that the reason was '7' being an unlucky number in Chinese Culture. Some building in the west have no 13th floor!

Merry Xmas to you skybsd!




You'd be surprised how seriously that is taken, even in the west. Where I live there are dozens of buildings (including mine) no 13th floor (for the westerners), and there are no floors ending in 4 (in respect of Chinese culture, since there are many Chinese people in this area).

I haven't heard of 7 being their unlucky number, and 4 is definitely out, but I'd personally never underestimate the importance of those types of things in marketing across various continents/cultures.

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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: MaciekA]
      #4265300 - 12/22/10 04:26 PM

8 is lucky in China, so maybe it is the same mount renamed.
and number 4 is definately out!


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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: MaciekA]
      #4265340 - 12/22/10 04:46 PM

Quote:

You'd be surprised how seriously that is taken, even in the west. Where I live there are dozens of buildings (including mine) no 13th floor (for the westerners), and there are no floors ending in 4 (in respect of Chinese culture, since there are many Chinese people in this area).

I haven't heard of 7 being their unlucky number, and 4 is definitely out, but I'd personally never underestimate the importance of those types of things in marketing across various continents/cultures.

Cheers,




Maybe unlucky is too strong of a word. From the thread I read, it seems to be associated with spirits and ghosts in eastern cultures.
You are correct about the marketing aspect, numbers are free and if one has connotative association, it is just prudent to move along to one without issues, and apparently 8 is supposed to be a lucky number for the Chinese(thank you adamsp123). If it is more respectful to avoid certain things without causing undue issues...why not? The world could use more respect! Cheers!


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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: nemo129]
      #4368262 - 02/06/11 06:35 PM

Some photos of the Skywatcher EQ8 at the start of this thread at another site.

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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: skybsd]
      #4368599 - 02/06/11 09:06 PM

8 = money to the Chinese.

but they don't consider 13 to be unlucky, so most/all buildings i've been to have a 13th floor. dunno about the US (never been there) but in my home country of Philippines which used to be a US colony, 13 is unlucky and I've never seen a building with a 13th floor.


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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: orlyandico]
      #4369220 - 02/07/11 07:31 AM

Strange, cos' the Skywatcher importer was exhibiting the EQ8 at UK Astrofest over the weekend.

Very substantial looking mount. Way beyond what I want/need.

Edited by pennyandchris (02/07/11 07:33 AM)


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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: pennyandchris]
      #4370036 - 02/07/11 02:48 PM

I have seen Synta said the new mount was never named as EQ7. Nor EQ8 probably. Because there are already some cheap mount (by other Chinese companies) named EQ7 & EQ8.

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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: neveruseforever]
      #4371406 - 02/08/11 03:18 AM

How do you get to the 14 floor if there is no 13th? Serious question.

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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: Twilight]
      #4371443 - 02/08/11 04:38 AM

by elevator.

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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: Twilight]
      #4371529 - 02/08/11 06:16 AM

Quote:

How do you get to the 14 floor if there is no 13th? Serious question.




You hit the "up" button.


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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: skybsd]
      #4373734 - 02/09/11 03:47 AM

Quote:

Some photos of the Skywatcher EQ8




Why do they still use this bad power connector?

All other connectors seem to be much more secure.


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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: borix]
      #4373822 - 02/09/11 05:58 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Some photos of the Skywatcher EQ8




Why do they still use this bad power connector?

All other connectors seem to be much more secure.




"Seem." I've never had any trouble with the power connector on my EQ6.


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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: rmollise]
      #4374057 - 02/09/11 09:09 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

Some photos of the Skywatcher EQ8




Why do they still use this bad power connector?

All other connectors seem to be much more secure.




"Seem." I've never had any trouble with the power connector on my EQ6.




The power connector on my Atlas did "seem" to not hold in very securely so I just wrap the wire a few times around the very secure HC connection and then plug it in, this way the connector won't get a load that may pull it out. I would have designed some kind of clamp or screw on plug-in had I been in charge.


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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: Planemo]
      #4374129 - 02/09/11 09:56 AM

Agreed, borix. When I had my Atlas, I had a terrible time with the power shorting-out. Whenever there was any movement of the power cable, it would shutdown for a split second, and I'd have to re-do the star allignment. A little piece of duct-tape at the beginning of each session eventually solved the problem, but that was just a band-aid. The connection for the hand-controller, was executed much better in the engineering dept. -David.

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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: lightyear44]
      #4374136 - 02/09/11 09:57 AM

....In fact, I knew another fella with the same problem. -David.

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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: lightyear44]
      #4375891 - 02/10/11 05:33 AM

Has anyone got some photos or some specs of this EQ8?

The best photo would be a side by side comparison
with the EQ6.

The EQ6 can't handle anywhere near it's rated capacity when doing photography.
An EQ8 might be the solution for a lot of people with
big Newts on Dob mounts to just put them straight on
a large mount & start taking 10 minute sub frame photos.
WOW


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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: alpal]
      #4376010 - 02/10/11 08:25 AM

The differences between EQ7/8 and EQ6 are like between CGE PRO and the CGEM. While CGEM is a redesign of EQ6, the Eq7/8 is a redesign of the CGE PRO. EQ7/8 is very much like the CGE PRO, in dimensions and desing, except a few differences from motors and software, and cosmetic.

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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: alpal]
      #4376141 - 02/10/11 09:30 AM

Quote:

Has anyone got some photos or some specs of this EQ8?

The best photo would be a side by side comparison
with the EQ6.





Scroll down this page web page and there is a very good pic of it, but not side by side to the EQ-6, doesn't look like something I'd want to tote around, better suited for a permanent pier.


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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: Planemo]
      #4376233 - 02/10/11 10:12 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Has anyone got some photos or some specs of this EQ8?

The best photo would be a side by side comparison
with the EQ6.





Scroll down this page web page and there is a very good pic of it, but not side by side to the EQ-6, doesn't look like something I'd want to tote around, better suited for a permanent pier.




I scrolled down that page & the the next page but I didn't see it.


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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: alpal]
      #4376270 - 02/10/11 10:28 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

Has anyone got some photos or some specs of this EQ8?

The best photo would be a side by side comparison
with the EQ6.





Scroll down this page web page and there is a very good pic of it, but not side by side to the EQ-6, doesn't look like something I'd want to tote around, better suited for a permanent pier.




I scrolled down that page & the the next page but I didn't see it.




Its there.., here you go.

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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: skybsd]
      #4376307 - 02/10/11 10:44 AM

It looks huge! So when is the North American release date on this monster?

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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: Kenny2004]
      #4376524 - 02/10/11 12:19 PM

Hi,
No idea as to a N American launch to me knowledge.

Rumours in AP suggest that they will be the first geography to see it..,

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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: skybsd]
      #4376915 - 02/10/11 03:05 PM

Skybsd -
All I get is this - not a picture:


Originally Posted by FLO
The update we received this morning says the EQ8 will be first to arrive, probably later this year. The EQ8 is what we have all mistakenly been calling the EQ7 so it hasn't actually been canceled or delayed. it is the one shown in this picture:

Then all I see is a little box with a cross that has this property:


http://www.firstlightoptics.com/prodimages/new_skywatcher_geq_mount.jpg

When I try to look at the link -

I get
Forbidden
You don't have permission to access / on this server.

Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.


Maybe you can save the picture if you can see it then post it here on this site?


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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: alpal]
      #4376959 - 02/10/11 03:29 PM

Hello,
Not sure what your problem might be, really..,

I can't post photos from another site here, actually - See CN Terms of Service .

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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: skybsd]
      #4377052 - 02/10/11 04:14 PM

Yes sky -
it does say:

Please do not copy e-mails, articles, pictures or posts from publications or from other online sites unless you are the owner of the material or have received explicit permission from the owner to do so. This permission must be included in your post. Using another person's work without permission is, at the very least, poor etiquette, and is not permitted on this forum.

What a pity - but maybe we are taking the rule a bit far?


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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: alpal]
      #4377112 - 02/10/11 04:41 PM

Anyone have an idea of the capacity or supposed tracking accuracy of the EQ-8?

I have a big refractor (133mm f/12) that is too big for a CGEM or an Atlas. I've been thinking of the Titan or the AP 900, but they are really expensive. I need at least 30 Kg capacity (visual) or it isn't an option for me.

Dan


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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: alpal]
      #4377121 - 02/10/11 04:45 PM

Hi,
Its seems fair to me, to be honest..,

That said, I'd suggest that there's something not quite right on your set up there that's not permitting you to view the photos that at the link, really.

See if this works for you..,

Regards,

skybsd


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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: skybsd]
      #4377141 - 02/10/11 05:00 PM

Quote:

Hi,
Its seems fair to me, to be honest..,

That said, I'd suggest that there's something not quite right on your set up there that's not permitting you to view the photos that at the link, really.

See if this works for you..,

Regards,

skybsd




Yes I can see one photo at the top of the page.
Is that the EQ8 just behind the EQ6 & slightly to the right?


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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: alpal]
      #4377159 - 02/10/11 05:11 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Hi,
Its seems fair to me, to be honest..,

That said, I'd suggest that there's something not quite right on your set up there that's not permitting you to view the photos that at the link, really.

See if this works for you..,

Regards,

skybsd




Yes I can see one photo at the top of the page.
Is that the EQ8 just behind the EQ6 & slightly to the right?




Hi,
Well yes, but lower down, second post is another, larger photo of the mount..,

Regards,

skybsd


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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: skybsd]
      #4377168 - 02/10/11 05:20 PM

OK Thanks - I can't see the 2nd photo.
Maybe I should install another browser?
I'll try firefox.


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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: alpal]
      #4377174 - 02/10/11 05:24 PM

Hi alpal

PM sent.


Clear skies!
Thomas, Denmark


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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: alpal]
      #4377178 - 02/10/11 05:25 PM

Hi,
Sounds like a plan.

For reference, images display fine for me on both linux-opera and firefox.

Regards,

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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: skybsd]
      #4377208 - 02/10/11 05:41 PM

Yes - I just tried it on a laptop which also has
Internet explorer & it doesn't show either.
It will take me some time to install firefox.
I should have an alternative browser - this
happens quite a lot to me.


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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: alpal]
      #4377258 - 02/10/11 05:57 PM

I am using Firefox now & it's no different.

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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: alpal]
      #4377339 - 02/10/11 06:32 PM

They show up fine for me using firefox, thanks for the link.

Edited by Mighty_oz (02/10/11 08:28 PM)


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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: Mighty_oz]
      #4377484 - 02/10/11 07:25 PM

Good - think about how many people have a large Dob
Newtonian that could fit on that mount!

All they'll need is an auto guider &
they'll be taking 10 minute exposure sub frames with large apperture.

The DSLR forum here will fill up with pics of distant
galaxies which are rare pics with the little
telescopes most of them use.


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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: alpal]
      #4380378 - 02/12/11 05:39 AM

Look here - a video of the EQ8.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Mg6WLerTKZg#at=18


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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: alpal]
      #4380538 - 02/12/11 08:59 AM

Doesn't look as huge on the video where we have a person to scale it to, looks like it may be at the high end of "portable".

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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: Planemo]
      #4381796 - 02/12/11 06:14 PM

Quote:

Doesn't look as huge on the video where we have a person to scale it to, looks like it may be at the high end of "portable".




Maybe it breaks down into comfortable size pieces
for a person of resonable strength & doesn't require
2 people to assemble it?

At least we can now all see a video of it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Mg6WLerTKZg#at=18


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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: alpal]
      #4382367 - 02/13/11 12:06 AM

Still waiting to see some more real data. Three questions remain uppermost in my mind:
1. Max load capacity - visual and photographic?
2. Pointing accuracy / periodic error?
3. Portability - can it break into pieces easily?

Oh yeah... and the cost!!!

Dan


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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: Ad Astra]
      #4382942 - 02/13/11 09:53 AM

It sure has a AP900 look to it. The fact in the video he mentions it'll work with EQMOD is enough to perk my interest. Sooner it hits and gets some reviews and testing the better.

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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: alpal]
      #4383766 - 02/13/11 03:41 PM

Gee wonder if it's to soon to considering selling my CGEM...would Celestron sell a version of this...would this fill the hole between the CGEM and CGE PRO? I can't tell.

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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: Jeff55]
      #4383842 - 02/13/11 04:22 PM

i think its meant to compete with the pro.

i hate to be this guy but for 5k i think id rather buy a G11 and save the money. yeah it has 10 maybe 15lbs more realistic photgraphic load but at [likely] quite a bit cheaper chinese level quality. if they were roughly the same price then it would be an interesting choice... bulk v. quality. that would actually revolutionize the market like the atlas did. for AP one could buy an AO unit with money saved and use the same OTA's on a losmandy and still probablly come out ahead results wise.

basically, this mount and the CGE-Pro cost more per pound of payload than a G11 but with lesser over-all machining quality. so then whats the point in having anything made in china now if they're just going to charge more for the cheaper build? lets not even get into this mount is using the same synscan GOTO that all their other mounts use, so basically the cost of production is simply a bit bigger gears and housings for a 350% retail price increase over an atlas.

but whatever, thats just me. obviously it will likely sell anyway.


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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: bardo]
      #4383903 - 02/13/11 04:52 PM

I am hoping it will have good quality bearings compared to the EQ6.
e.g. I heard that the AP 900 & AP 1200 have tapered roller
bearings on the DEC & RA shaft.(one each end of each shaft)
The EQ6 has only ball bearings & the interent is
full of replacement kits of other better ball bearings.

I don't know about others but unless this mount could give
me pin point stars on 10 minute sub frames I wouldn't buy it -
(that is if you hook up a long Newt. to it. - mine is 1220 mm FL
& I'd want it to handle a 12" Newt)


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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: alpal]
      #4492502 - 04/03/11 12:24 AM

So what happened to the EQ8?
I am still waiting for it to be released.

By the way my EQ6 Pro is not good enough.
I just had to replace the lower declination adjustment bolt.
The bolt had bent when I had 18Kg loaded on the mount.
I now have only 12Kgs & we'll see how it goes.


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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: alpal]
      #4492797 - 04/03/11 06:09 AM

One or two shops - at least in EMEA and AP are already listing the mount on their websites with the obligatory "Call for pricing".


If I were interested in getting one, I'd simply contact my local Skywatcher / Synta / Celestron distributor and ask

Regards,

skybsd


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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: skybsd]
      #4492957 - 04/03/11 08:54 AM

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One or two shops - at least in EMEA and AP are already listing the mount on their websites with the obligatory "Call for pricing".


If I were interested in getting one, I'd simply contact my local Skywatcher / Synta / Celestron distributor and ask

Regards,

skybsd




Thanks for those 2 links - no advertised price yet.
I want someone else to buy one first.
The EQ6 has a number of shortcomings - I am hoping that
this stronger model will be much better.
When you hear that higher end mounts are so good that they can do
10 minute subframes without guiding & obtain pinpoint stars
then I just wonder what this Skywatcher can really do?


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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: alpal]
      #4493112 - 04/03/11 10:14 AM

Hello,
Actually - I just noticed your location in your signature..,

I'm sure I read on one of the AUS forums that there are folks out in Oz and "Far East" that were supposed to be road-testing the mount - have a word with the AUS distributor for Skywatcher if you wish..,

Regards,

skybsd


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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: skybsd]
      #4493237 - 04/03/11 11:07 AM

I think if you look at the weight capacity range this is going for , no doubt it's target for the "Celestron CGE Pro and Vixen Atlux" people. It's obvious they opted not to make a jump up to the 65lb range and go for a more drastic and heavier weight load.

With both the CGE Pro and Atlux in the $5K US dollar range I wouldn't be surprised if this new EQ8 comes in around 10%-15% less. I sure don't see it selling for for more.


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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: Twilight]
      #4494556 - 04/03/11 10:05 PM

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How do you get to the 14 floor if there is no 13th? Serious question.



I assume that they just skip the number. I stayed in a thirteen-floor apartment building in Chicago, US and the top floor was labeled "14", not "13". The floor below it was labeled "12".

K-R.


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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: skybsd]
      #4495102 - 04/04/11 05:29 AM

Quote:

Hello,
Actually - I just noticed your location in your signature..,

I'm sure I read on one of the AUS forums that there are folks out in Oz and "Far East" that were supposed to be road-testing the mount - have a word with the AUS distributor for Skywatcher if you wish..,

Regards,

skybsd




I have had a word with my Skywatcher supplier
& they know nothing about it.
In fact they appreciated that video I posted of it.


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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: alpal]
      #4495261 - 04/04/11 08:33 AM

Hello,

Quote:

Quote:

Hello,
Actually - I just noticed your location in your signature..,

I'm sure I read on one of the AUS forums that there are folks out in Oz and "Far East" that were supposed to be road-testing the mount - have a word with the AUS distributor for Skywatcher if you wish..,

Regards,

skybsd




I have had a word with my Skywatcher supplier
& they know nothing about it.
In fact they appreciated that video I posted of it.




I notice you said you contacted your local "supplier".

Just so I'm sure we're both on the same page - I did use the term "distributor" previously - that is, not a retailer, reseller or dealer.

The distributor is the single entity in any given country or region (NA/SA/EU/AP) that has the import and distribution rights for a (foreign or local) company's product(s). for instance, in the UK, most distributors do not sell direct to consumers, and if contacted, they will offer to supply a list of shops that carry the product in their dealership / reseller network.

So, was it the local distributor (as described above) with whom you were in contact? If it was, then I'm at a loss, really..,

Regards,

skybsd


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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: alpal]
      #4495263 - 04/04/11 08:33 AM

True story: Years ago some young people decided that one of them would bungee jump from a building. The building was something like 20 stories high. They calculated the height of the building based on the number of stories and rigged a bungee cord of what they thought was the appropriate length for a safe jump. What they did not know is that the building had no 13th floor, so their bungee cord was too long. The guy jumped and hit the ground, killing him.

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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: skybsd]
      #4496277 - 04/04/11 05:01 PM

Quote:

Hello,

Quote:

Quote:

Hello,
Actually - I just noticed your location in your signature..,

I'm sure I read on one of the AUS forums that there are folks out in Oz and "Far East" that were supposed to be road-testing the mount - have a word with the AUS distributor for Skywatcher if you wish..,

Regards,

skybsd




I have had a word with my Skywatcher supplier
& they know nothing about it.
In fact they appreciated that video I posted of it.




I notice you said you contacted your local "supplier".

Just so I'm sure we're both on the same page - I did use the term "distributor" previously - that is, not a retailer, reseller or dealer.

The distributor is the single entity in any given country or region (NA/SA/EU/AP) that has the import and distribution rights for a (foreign or local) company's product(s). for instance, in the UK, most distributors do not sell direct to consumers, and if contacted, they will offer to supply a list of shops that carry the product in their dealership / reseller network.

So, was it the local distributor (as described above) with whom you were in contact? If it was, then I'm at a loss, really..,

Regards,

skybsd




I have no idea who the "distributer" is.
As far as I know the supplier I spoke to imports
directly from overseas & not through a local distributer.


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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: Ad Astra]
      #4496983 - 04/04/11 11:19 PM

My bet - look at the CGE Pro and you have your price and specs. It looks like a CGE Pro made-up to look vaguely akin to an AP900.

The gear size, altitude adjustment and split "forked" lower assembly look to be pure CGE Pro.

- Jim


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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: alpal]
      #4497789 - 04/05/11 10:39 AM

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When you hear that higher end mounts are so good that they can do
10 minute subframes without guiding & obtain pinpoint stars
then I just wonder what this Skywatcher can really do?




What focal length would you like to image at?

Even high end mounts (Tak, AP) need guiding when using longer focal lenghts.

What those mounts permit are less aggressive autoguider settings due to their smaller (much smaller in some cases, but still there nonetheless) PE, and smoother, predictable PE curves.


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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: RogerRZ]
      #4498036 - 04/05/11 12:35 PM

There are many ways around not having an AP or ME mount. I'm a believer in the "you can make anything work" school of thought - if you spend the time to understand your equp and it's capabilities.

Over the years I had had terrible equp with huge PE and unstable mounts. By using the equp and praticing you WILL be able to do excellent things. Also, technology like SBIGs AO-7/8/etc... can turn a lower end mount into a high end performer. An AO device will even help overcome some issues in seeing stability.

By using what you have and the exp of folks hear you will be able to do great things should you choose to apply yourself.

Now you may say "fine" thats great comming from someone with an TOA-150 and an AP900. I spend many a night with ankle weights hanging off a meade LX3 looking through an OAG at 12 degrees manually guiding a picture of M42. I had just as much fun then as I do now - maybe more. TBH, I get confused with all this tech today. It's like looking under the hood of my Benz, I can't even fined the dipstick anymore

Good luck...

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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: rmollise]
      #4498534 - 04/05/11 04:24 PM

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Quote:



Why do they still use this bad power connector?

All other connectors seem to be much more secure.




"Seem." I've never had any trouble with the power connector on my EQ6.




Me neither, but then I am using a right angle plug.


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Re: EQ7 is dead, Long Live EQ-8? new [Re: alpal]
      #4498557 - 04/05/11 04:35 PM

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The EQ6 can't handle anywhere near it's rated capacity when doing photography.





No mount does. Mounts in general appear to be rated for visual use, and the rule of thumb for doing AP is to figure your mount capacity as half it's rated capacity.
However, my 40lbs rated Atlas does quite well with 25lbs on it in AP mode, somewhat more than 50% of it's rating. Perhaps it's because I have it mounted on an 8" concrete pier?


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