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Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ?
      #4751961 - 08/16/11 07:35 PM

If available in the USA that is....

After seeing this mount offered by Skywatcher but not available in the USA I wrote to Skywatcher.

Not the Celestron division (although I did mail them they have not replied)
but Skywatcher themselves.

Initially they responded as follows...
Quote:

Unfortunately, this product is not being considered for the North American market at the moment. If you would like to order one, you might have to order it online through Optical Limited Vision.




I thanked them & mentioned I would look online but I thought there could be a real demand in North America

They wrote back....
Quote:

We are sorry about the inconvenience, but it's an item that the Head Office is really not sure about.
If they would import this product to North America, how big of a demand you would think there will be?
It is a very complicated question for you to answer, but if you would to estimate. How much you think would be in demand?

Cheers,

Sky-Watcher Support




So I told them I would ask here on CN for them & see if there was much interest.

For those that have not seen it here it is....
SKYTEE-2

Please give your input & I will relay it to support.

Thanks


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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: ioflying]
      #4752036 - 08/16/11 08:25 PM

I've seen that mount in a previous posting and it looks impressive and unique. It looks as though you can operate 2 scopes independently. I would be interested.

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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: ioflying]
      #4752314 - 08/16/11 11:14 PM

Apparently, I was the first person to inquire about this mount, both to Skywatcher USA, and to Celestron, as directed by Skywatcher. Neither had any interest. In fact, Celestron never even acknowledged my message, nor responded to it...

So I bought an Orion Sky View AZ instead, even though I believe the SKYTEE 2 is a better mount, based on a lot of research, listening to what European (mostly UK) customers had to say about theirs... Too bad neither Skywatcher nor Celestron had any interest in bringing it here... I'd have bought it in a heartbeat then...

I *might* be interested, but, then, I also remember trying to convince them it was a good idea once before...

I've begun to like the Sky View AZ mount better every day... And Orion is behind that one, so I know I'll get good customer service if needed, even though I couldn't talk THEM into bringing the SKYTEE 2 into the US either...


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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: Jan Owen]
      #4752375 - 08/16/11 11:51 PM

Thanks Jan

Yes yours was the first mention of it I had seen.

Also like you I have never heard back from Celestron....
No big surprise there


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Jan Owen
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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: ioflying]
      #4752389 - 08/16/11 11:54 PM

Here's a little of the stuff I dug up when I was getting ready to buy the SKYTEE 2 from a UK dealer...

http://stargazerslounge.com/equipment-reviews/127755-skywatcher-skytee-2-first-impression.html


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Jan Owen
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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: Jan Owen]
      #4752406 - 08/17/11 12:03 AM

Another...

http://stargazerslounge.com/equipment-discussion/130785-skywatcher-skytee-2-a.html


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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: Jan Owen]
      #4752521 - 08/17/11 01:32 AM

Isn't it the same as the Orion AZ?

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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: drshr]
      #4752530 - 08/17/11 01:52 AM

Quote:

Isn't it the same as the Orion AZ?




The Orions do not have slo-mo controls or a counterweight ability. Also the Orion is rated at 25lbs each side but the SkyTee is rated at 15kg/33lbs each side

Thanks for the links Jan


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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if availab new [Re: ioflying]
      #4752707 - 08/17/11 07:49 AM

I like the slow motion controls...when are they going to clone the TREX mount?

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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if availab new [Re: AlienRatDog]
      #4752734 - 08/17/11 08:35 AM

I really don't like the vixen saddle on top of the altitude arm, should be on the same plane for better balance and though it does has a cw, the whole setup looks like a pita to balance.

The SV MG2 looks like a better option, if a twin arm, slow motion control alt/az is desired.


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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if availab new [Re: Jim7728]
      #4753206 - 08/17/11 01:13 PM

Your concerns are valid, but only for folks who want to mount two scopes at the same time...

I have no plans to put two scopes on the mount, so balancing would be quite straightforward for me (though I have posted a photo or two of my new Sky View AZ mount with two refractors onboard simultaneously - that was a photo-op, and not the real world for me - most of the photos I've posted have had only one scope mounted).

With the counterweight bar in the horizontal position opposite the horizontal dovetail saddle (with appropriate weights, if any), and one scope in the horizontal dovetail saddle, it's perfect for scopes right up to the stated carrying capacity.

It's pretty hard to make anything that'll make everyone happy...


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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: ioflying]
      #4753431 - 08/17/11 03:27 PM Attachment (224 downloads)

The counterweight issue is easy to fix. See photo.

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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: ioflying]
      #4754367 - 08/17/11 11:46 PM

I have an mg2 on order now. If this had been available, I absolutely would have considered it. There is a dearth of inexpensive alt az, slow-mo mounts that can carry a decent sized scope. The dual mounting feature is cool but not a priority for me.

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Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: ioflying]
      #4755060 - 08/18/11 10:59 AM

I did and I love it! One proviso though....you do need to change those cheap and nasty little saddles it is provided with for something a bit stronger/heavier duty - especially if you are using heavy scope (i.e. >4kg. That done this mount has everything you could wish for except perhaps for a couple of flexible, slo-mo controls for use with BIG scopes. I use this mount with both an FLT110 and Lunt60/BF1200DS solar scope and it works a treat as it is. I particularly like the fact that the horizontal saddle plate is adjustable in two axes thus making ideal for honing in on another close target.

Edited by Chris Drage (08/18/11 11:02 AM)


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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: ioflying]
      #4755140 - 08/18/11 11:38 AM

Put me down as very interested. I have my overweight C9.25 on a Giro 3 which is stable with it but the mount doesn't have slomo. Action is smooth but the mass of the scope makes tracking not as easy as my WO EZTouch with a IM715. David

Edited by dscarpa (08/18/11 11:46 AM)


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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: dscarpa]
      #4755712 - 08/18/11 05:15 PM

Thanks for all the replies so far.
I am sure Skywatcher will be interested to hear not just
the reasons why you would buy it if it were available.
But also any reasons why you would not.

I did get a response from Celestron yesterday
Quote:

Thanks for your inquiry.

Not at this time.

Please contact:
http://www.skywatcher.com/swtinc/index2.php





So I am glad I did in fact contact SkyWatcher directly to begin with.
Also interesting was skywatchers comment
"There are many products that we are interested in bringing them into North America."

Thanks


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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: jason_milani]
      #4781126 - 08/31/11 10:18 PM

I would buy one if I didn't already have one! There is a review of one on e Stargazerlonge.com site from 2005 that makes it look very good indeed. Sitl waiting for the used one I purchased to arrive, but for a higher end AltAz mount it looks great.

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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: Mkofski]
      #4782743 - 09/01/11 05:02 PM

What is the cost for this mount in American dollars?

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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: Wilsonman]
      #4782784 - 09/01/11 05:23 PM

Quote:

What is the cost for this mount in American dollars?




I have only seen prices in the UK
Looks to average GBP 230 pounds or $372 Head only

And GBP 312 pounds or $504 with Tripod & Head


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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: ioflying]
      #4783066 - 09/01/11 08:01 PM

At $504, it might be a bit too pricey unless it proves to be a great mount. Would like to see it @ $400- that's just my opinion.

Edited by Wilsonman (09/01/11 08:03 PM)


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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: Wilsonman]
      #4783093 - 09/01/11 08:16 PM Attachment (162 downloads)

Hi,

I've had this mount for just a wee while and I am quite impressed with it. It has a few little issues but it works brilliantly (I was pleasantly surprised) with my 4" f/15 classic refractor as well as my 5" f/9 semiapo. I enjoyed some high magnification views of Jove through the 5" glass sitting comfortably and using the slow mo extension cables - an absolute must IMO for longer refractors. Tracking at high power is very good! I have also found that the head is not raised off the ground nearly as much as I'd like. That's why I ordered up a 16" half pillar that mates to the tripod and allows the head to sit on top. An additional £89 UK cost plus shipping.Should be here tomorrow. I'll post some pics once it's all set up.
Link here:
http://www.widescreen-centre.co.uk/Products/Pillar_Extension_for_EQ5_.html

First pic shows my 5" refractor.

Regards,

Neil.

Edited by astroneil (09/01/11 08:20 PM)


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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: astroneil]
      #4783097 - 09/01/11 08:17 PM Attachment (158 downloads)

And here is the Skytee with my 4" f/15 classical achromat

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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: Wilsonman]
      #4783348 - 09/01/11 10:35 PM

If you think about it, $504 probably isn't out of line, given it's greater payload capacity, AND the slo-motion controls, when compared to the SkyView AZ at $449. However, it's your money, so it's also your opinion that counts for your own use, for SURE...

I knew what the price would be, but I still tried to get Skyview USA, and their compatriots at Celestron, not to mention even Orion, to bring the SKYTEE 2 to the US, all to no avail.

So I bought the SkyView AZ, because I could GET one here, not because I thought it was a better mount, or a better value.

I certainly like my SkyView AZ, but I'd still have rather had the SKYTEE 2...


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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: astroneil]
      #4783375 - 09/01/11 10:46 PM Attachment (115 downloads)

With those scopes of yours, you'll like the pier extension you have enroute... Nice looking scopes they are, too!

I also use the 16" extension with my SkyView AZ mount(since I couldn't convince anyone here in the US to bring the SKYTEE 2 here, and was nervous about ordering one direct from the UK without having experience with any sellers there). It makes a great match with my EON 120...

Edited by Jan Owen (09/01/11 10:49 PM)


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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: Jan Owen]
      #4783392 - 09/01/11 10:58 PM

Yes the price seems ok to me too.

Reason being I really looked around when I decided I wanted an Alt-Az
I think I looked at all of them including, ES,Orion,Vixen,UA etc. I saw only one available in the US that met the requirements of payload capacity (thinking ahead for a heavier scope) + having slow motion controls.

That was the Stellarvue MG2. That head is $379 or $500 with tripod & is wait listed. So the SkyTee2 seems like a fair price. Also the MG2 holds 20lbs per side & the SW 33 lbs per side.Through Jan's posts I saw the SkyTee2... & thought That would really fit the bill.

As detailed in the OP I wrote SW & they were very nice & seemed really interested in what I though about it being viable in the US. Their last response thanked me & said they were forwarding it to management so we will see if anything ever comes of it. I mentioned to them I thought their product would do well & the lack of comparable mounts in the USA. So we will see.

For now I am ok because I have converted my SVP to alt-az & am very happy with it. But if the SkyTee2 comes to the US I would still buy one for future heavier scopes.

Thanks for the pics Neil nice to see one in actual use. Please post a shot with the pier extension when you get it if you can


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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: ioflying]
      #4783534 - 09/02/11 12:11 AM

I'm not saying that $504 for a Skytee 2 is necessarily asking too much, but given that the Orion Skyview can be had for $300 right now, I would have to be convinced it's worth $200 more.

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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: Wilsonman]
      #4783572 - 09/02/11 12:36 AM

Agreed that Orion deal is an excellent sale price.

If it had slow motion controls I would have bought one instead of converting my EQ.
Especially given Orion's free shipping & excellent customer service.


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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: ioflying]
      #4784108 - 09/02/11 10:17 AM Attachment (139 downloads)

Jan & Mike,

Thank you for the compliments.

I must say Jan, the EON 120 looks the bizz on your mount.

OK, the half pillar arrived this afternoon and it took me all of five minutes to attach it to the tripod. It is very sturdy.
As I expected, it has raised my long refractors much higher off the ground and even at the zenith, I can comfortably sit at and enjoy the view.

Dampening time didn't increase that much. When I stuck a 5mm eyepiece into both instruments and applied a good rap to the side of the tube, it took about 2.5 seconds to calm down. Not bad at all.

While observing, I'd like to have both slow mo extension cables at my fingertips and orientated so that they are facing the eyepiece. If you swing the head round, the cables are too far apart to reach comfortably. The solution is just to move the entire mount so that the scope and cables are facing the object under study. Even with these scopes attached, the system is easy enough to move over short distances.

Now, I'm sucking diesel!

All I need is some clear skies to come my way. Sadly, that ain't gonna happen any time soon.

Some pics attached showing both the 5" and 4" refractors aimed at ~45 degrees altitude and at the zenith, respectively.

Regards,

Neil.


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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: astroneil]
      #4784111 - 09/02/11 10:18 AM Attachment (123 downloads)

5" at Zenith

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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: astroneil]
      #4784114 - 09/02/11 10:19 AM Attachment (92 downloads)

4"f/15 at 45 degrees

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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: astroneil]
      #4784116 - 09/02/11 10:20 AM Attachment (114 downloads)

And finally; the long scope at the zenith.

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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: astroneil]
      #4784574 - 09/02/11 01:46 PM

Hey Congrats Neil !

That looks great!

Yes what you mention about the slow motion cables makes sense.
One thing nice about mine is the DEC slo-mo cable is always at the EP.
The RA I have a knob on both sides so it is usually within reach.

As you say though it is easy to spin the tripod which usually should give you a good range

BTW: That pillar looks exactly like the Orion pillar.
That would be good news if the skytee is ever available in the US as it would fit on my existing pillar

Thanks again for the pics & Congrats


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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: astroneil]
      #4784678 - 09/02/11 02:36 PM

Excellent!!! And thanks for the nice images of your scopes on the mount/pier extension/combination... Looks great!!!

I'd bet the Orion and Skywatcher extensions come right off the same production line in the same manufacturing facility...


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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: Jan Owen]
      #4785977 - 09/03/11 08:17 AM

I emailed Opticstar Ltd for the price of the Skytee2 head and the reply was 304 GBP shipped to Ca. That's around $500 shipped for the head only.

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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: Rat]
      #4786486 - 09/03/11 01:23 PM

That's why I wanted to stay away from shipping one from Europe. What *I'd* call a fair price would be about $450 US Dollars (+/-), plus shipping. Could be the shipping in the transaction you mention was around $50, though, and that, I'd call fair, even though it's more than I'd prefer to pay overall... Of course, I understand that YMMV, so you're welcome to see it differently...

Edited by Jan Owen (09/03/11 01:47 PM)


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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: Jan Owen]
      #4794063 - 09/07/11 09:28 AM Attachment (88 downloads)

Hi folks,

The weather here has been deplorable of late. I have only been able to set up a couple of times during very brief clear spells (half hours) between heavy showers. I wanted to see how the Skytee II would cope with the half pillar extension at or near the zenith.

I almost always observe in the seated position and although the pillar enables me to view objects high overhead comfortably, I found reaching UP for the slow-mo cables to be a tiresome exercise. That got me thinking; I have become accustomed to observing with a Gibraltar mount with the f/15 and particularly enjoyed the freedom I had to move the scope on both axes. So, I tried a similar approach with the Skytee II. I removed the slow-mo extension cables and just left both the azimuth and altitude locks open to see how well it could cope tracking Vega at 300x (testing at these high powers is critical for me, as I'm a double star enthusiast).

Well, it actually worked very well! There is quite enough tension in this mount to allow me to track, simply by nudging the scope along. As an additional bonus, I regained the freedom I have enjoyed using the Gibraltar, in that I was now able to swing the scope round on its axes without having to worry about the extension cables getting in the way. Of course, I can always re-engage the locks and use the slow mo knobs for tracking objects at lower altitudes if I need to.

It's a learning game I guess.


Cheers,

Neil.

Edited by astroneil (09/07/11 09:30 AM)


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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: ioflying]
      #4794655 - 09/07/11 02:54 PM

Quote:

Quote:

What is the cost for this mount in American dollars?




I have only seen prices in the UK
Looks to average GBP 230 pounds or $372 Head only


And GBP 312 pounds or $504 with Tripod & Head




Hi Mike,

Could you post a link to where you found the Sky Tee 2 for £230 (pounds).

Thanks


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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: astroneil]
      #4794658 - 09/07/11 02:55 PM

That speaks well for the SKYTEE 2 mount; it works well even without the slo-mo controls...

That's how I use my Sky View mount (because it HAS no slo-mo controls), and it does fine, once you get used to the drill... I'm used to nudging the scope along, after years as a Dobsonian user, but here, you're moving the BACK end of the scope instead of the front, so it's a little different (but no big deal)...

Hope your weather improves... It's been a blazing hot summer here in always sunny Arizona, and I'm more than ready for it to begin to cool off in the evenings!!!


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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: astroneil]
      #4794934 - 09/07/11 05:19 PM

Hi Neil,

I've had a 6" f/8 on one side of the SkyTee II and it worked pretty good without the clutches. I suppose the Chinese grease has a lot to do with it. I did have to take out quite a bit of play in the Azimuth gear. The internals look like the same gearing and clutches as a few CG 5's I've stripped down.

This mount really does show promise.

If you keep buying new kit the weather will never clear up.


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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: GlenM]
      #4795169 - 09/07/11 07:29 PM

I was loaned a Skytee II for a few weeks and found it had a lot of potential but I ran into 2 issues with it that worried me:

1. I found the altitude motion extremely stiff, even with a heavy optical tube on board. I tried a Meade AR6 and a 10" F/4.8 newtonian on the mount. This stiffness did not lessen with use and got worse as the night cooled - with heavy OTA's some resistance is fine but moving them was not enjoyable or smooth with the level that I found.

2. I found the design and manufacture of the dovetail clamps rather poor. They look fine superficially but the travel in the "jaws" is barely enough to accept a standard dovetail bar and the thread within the alloy clamp knob was quickly stripped so that one clamp became unusable after just a couple of sessions.

The 2nd issue is the more worrying and I soon lacked the confidence to risk a heavy OTA on the mount. Another UK owner also realized this weakness and has replaced both clamps with good quality replacements by ADM but at some cost.

If Synta can remedy these issues then I'd be really enthusiastic about the Skytee II but I'm not going to invest in one until then.


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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: Mike E.]
      #4795567 - 09/07/11 11:30 PM

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Hi Mike,

Could you post a link to where you found the Sky Tee 2 for £230 (pounds).

Thanks




Hi Mike,

It was here...
http://www.firstlightoptics.com/alt-azimuth/action/basket/

But it is 229.17 GBP because of the VAT taken off if sent to USA
But then there would be 40GBP shipping charge I see.

Otherwise it is 275 GBP


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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: ioflying]
      #4795826 - 09/08/11 06:10 AM


Thanks again.


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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: John Huntley]
      #4795917 - 09/08/11 08:04 AM

Hi John,

I still think the mount shows promise. I know a few people who have had some problems with the clamps.

It's the old issue of quality control I suppose. It's made to a price point,and we can't get away from that.

I've not had mine out in really cold weather yet. I was just posting how I had found the mount so far.

Lets hope some day we can have a perfect mount at a perfect price.


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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: John Huntley]
      #4795967 - 09/08/11 08:49 AM

Quote:

I was loaned a Skytee II for a few weeks and found it had a lot of potential but I ran into 2 issues with it that worried me:

1. I found the altitude motion extremely stiff, even with a heavy optical tube on board. I tried a Meade AR6 and a 10" F/4.8 newtonian on the mount. This stiffness did not lessen with use and got worse as the night cooled - with heavy OTA's some resistance is fine but moving them was not enjoyable or smooth with the level that I found.

2. I found the design and manufacture of the dovetail clamps rather poor. They look fine superficially but the travel in the "jaws" is barely enough to accept a standard dovetail bar and the thread within the alloy clamp knob was quickly stripped so that one clamp became unusable after just a couple of sessions.

The 2nd issue is the more worrying and I soon lacked the confidence to risk a heavy OTA on the mount. Another UK owner also realized this weakness and has replaced both clamps with good quality replacements by ADM but at some cost.

If Synta can remedy these issues then I'd be really enthusiastic about the Skytee II but I'm not going to invest in one until then.




Hi John,

I've not really had those issues, though I do take your point about the dovetail clamps; they could be better and might well be worth upgrading in the long run.

I've actually tried it with a pretty heavy 6"F/10 refractor and it held that instrument quite securely.

Regards,

Neil.


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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: GlenM]
      #4795974 - 09/08/11 08:54 AM

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Hi Neil,


If you keep buying new kit the weather will never clear up.




Hi Glen,

Tell me about it.

It's sunny here now but by nightfall, it'll be chucking it down. Sign of the times.

Regards,

Neil.


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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: John Huntley]
      #4796409 - 09/08/11 01:11 PM

Is this mount from Orion similar?

http://www.telescope.com/Mounts-Tripods/Altazimuth-Mounts-Tripods/Orion-SkyView-Mini-Altazimuth-Telescope-Mount/pc/-1/c/2/sc/35/p/100279.uts


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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: Djarum]
      #4796458 - 09/08/11 01:36 PM

The functionality is similar, but the Mini Skyview mount has far less carrying capacity.

Even the full sized Orion SkyView AZ mount, which has much more capacity, but no slo-mo controls, has considerably less carrying capacity than the SKYTEE 2...


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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: Jan Owen]
      #4798656 - 09/09/11 05:47 PM

Those two look awefully similar, only difference to me looks like the size of the tripod legs. I really would like to be able to mount my 8" reflector to an AZ mount with slo-mo controls.

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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: Djarum]
      #4884072 - 10/27/11 07:05 PM Attachment (161 downloads)

Hi,

Quick update on the mount.

Still very much enjoying it. It's very versatile. I find mounting two scopes on it at once to be great fun and a more efficient use of my telescope time.

Stability continues to impress me. I managed to enjoy a good few nights moving round the sky with a fairly big frac. Here it is mounting a 6" f/8 triplet. At just under 15 kilos (about the quoted limit for a single scope), it worked flawlessly.

The colder weather makes the motions a bit more difficult to negotiate but nothing I couldn't manage.

One cautionary note: temperatures have begun to plummet close to zero here of late and on two occasions I've had a minor panic attack. I always take extra care to bolt the scopes securely in the saddle with their dovetail plates but on two occasions I found the bolt became more loose after cooling down. One night, I watched in horror as the dovetail holding my 5" refractor began to slide groundwards through the saddle. I got to it before anything serious happened though. The same thing occurred using a 60mm refractor. I think the metal contracted just enough to loosen it. It was easy to remedy by re-tightening AFTER it cooled off.


Still a happy stargazer

Regards,

Neil.

Edited by astroneil (10/27/11 07:58 PM)


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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: astroneil]
      #4884351 - 10/27/11 10:07 PM

I like it. Nice setup.

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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: Wilsonman]
      #4884427 - 10/27/11 10:43 PM

I would have bought one if it was available here ... specially if they would fit it with DSC ... why does it take them sooo long to wisen up and do their market research? Not a problem anymore for me though ... will be moving to Europe soon anyway ... Hej, hej. jag prater svenska varje dag ...

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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: Guy Noir]
      #4884983 - 10/28/11 10:28 AM Attachment (107 downloads)

Hi Mike,

I don't know why this mount isn't available in North America but it sure is good value for money.

Here it is with my nifty 60mm Skylight f/15m.

Regards,

Neil.

Edited by astroneil (10/28/11 10:22 PM)


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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: astroneil]
      #4885316 - 10/28/11 01:40 PM

That looks remarably similar to this or possibly this here in the states? I have been looking for something like this for my FS-128... what do you think?

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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: CounterWeight]
      #4886130 - 10/28/11 09:51 PM

The first one doesn't have slo-mo controls, and the second has less payload capacity than the Skytee 2.

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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: CounterWeight]
      #4886140 - 10/28/11 09:58 PM

indeed correct ... however the M150 isostatic mount does not have slow motion controls, while the second one, MG2, from SV does, and is in the right price range, so it would be great ... but has been waitlisted for a long time now
So yo, SV, what gives, get the MG2 out there, and add some DSC while you're at it
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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: Guy Noir]
      #4886145 - 10/28/11 10:01 PM

woah ... faster gun from Arizona :-)
... what he said ...


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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: Guy Noir]
      #4886714 - 10/29/11 10:32 AM

I purchased a MG2 directly from Stellarvue a few weeks ago. I called them to see how long the wait list was, and they said it was in stock.

I'm real pleased with it. It doesn't even know the TV-85 is on there.


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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: billva]
      #4886719 - 10/29/11 10:38 AM Attachment (103 downloads)

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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: billva]
      #4907782 - 11/10/11 12:27 AM

I think this is the same mount?

http://www.canadiantelescopes.com/Shop-By-Brand/Accessories_14/Canadian-Telescopes-Heavy-Duty-Duo-T-Mount


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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: stevenf]
      #4932802 - 11/24/11 11:06 AM Attachment (123 downloads)

The Skytee 2 does have a lot of modification potential. I did replace the standard dovetail saddles with ADM ones and moved one of them from the "top" position onto the counterweight shaft end. Makes it much better when used in Alt-Az mode with two scopes. Stuck a Berlebach saddle on the top position for mounting something light weight.

I've installed the Synscan upgrade intended for an EQ5 mount on my Skytee 2. With some custom made brackets it bolts onto the mount with no modifications to the mount at all. Then I designed and built a wedge for it.

When you examine the internal components of the mount it's clear SkyWatcher raided the EQ5 parts bin and kept the same gearing. Works great in EQ mode and tracks very well indeed. The first time I tried it without even bothering to polar align it properly it kept Jupiter in the FOV for over two hours.

In Alt-Az mode it's just a powered mount without proper tracking as you'd need encoders for that. However it works really well and makes it a lot easier to use as you're not reaching for the slo-mo knobs but holding the hand control.

John


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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: johninderby]
      #4932805 - 11/24/11 11:08 AM Attachment (233 downloads)

Another photo.

John


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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: johninderby]
      #4932856 - 11/24/11 11:40 AM Attachment (195 downloads)

And in Alt-Az mode

John


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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: johninderby]
      #4933290 - 11/24/11 05:38 PM

Nice work,John

I know quite a lot of work went into this.

Clear Skies.


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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: GlenM]
      #4933342 - 11/24/11 06:16 PM

Thanks Glen

Do you think a 100mm f/13 refractor would look nice on this mount?

John

PS
Just waiting for the paint for the OTA to arrive and then I can get the project finished.


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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: johninderby]
      #4933858 - 11/25/11 07:45 AM

In short words,-yes,in a heart beat.One of mi friends have it and its an wonderfull mount.Amazing mount at an incredible priçe...

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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: johninderby]
      #4934767 - 11/25/11 07:04 PM

Now a Carton 100mm f/13 on one side and a 4" f/11 on the other would be just about right

Wait until the guys on here see your Carton build

I've seen it and it's looking GOOD.


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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: GlenM]
      #4995253 - 01/01/12 07:07 AM Attachment (128 downloads)

OK Glen here it is with the Carton 100mm f/13 and the Lyra Optic 102mm f/11.

John


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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: johninderby]
      #4999478 - 01/03/12 03:53 PM

I missed this post,sorry. They certainly look very nice indeed.Good to hear first light went well

I think you should get rid of that Shabby Berlebach tripod. I could take it off your hands for a nominal fee


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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: GlenM]
      #5030160 - 01/21/12 10:37 AM

Seems to be the same, seems to be available in the US (CA) with tripod http://telescopes.net/store/mounts-tripods/canadian-telescopes-heavy-duty-duo-t-mount-w-tripod.html
or without
http://telescopes.net/store/mounts-tripods/canadian-telescopes-heavy-duty-duo-t-mount.html


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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: JMB]
      #5085660 - 02/22/12 01:43 PM

Hi John,

I just purchased a Sky Tee Duo. Quick question. How did you mount the additional ADM saddle on the end? Did you drill holes in the end piece and then one larger one for the shaft through the saddle?

I have a Meade AR6 on one end, and even without a coubterweight its rock solid. What a great mount very smooth also in the movements.

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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: johninderby]
      #5086942 - 02/23/12 09:45 AM

Quote:

... I did replace the standard dovetail saddles with ADM ones and moved one of them from the "top" position onto the counterweight shaft end. Makes it much better when used in Alt-Az mode with two scopes... John




The standard dovetail saddles are really not sufficient and moving one saddle to the counterweight shaft end makes also sense. Intend to do the same. Which ADM saddles did you exactly use?
Wilfried


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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: WRAK]
      #5100614 - 03/02/12 08:24 AM

ok this is my first post on cn.
i bought a mount at canadian telescope that is quite the
same as the skytee 2 here is the link.
http://www.canadiantelescopes.com/Accessories_2/Mounts-Tripods/Canadian-Telescopes-Heavy-Duty-Duo-T-Mount#.T1DIJIc7qf4

the price is for the head only.
they probably ship to the usa.
i did not have much time to use it but first impression is very good.i use it with a explore scientific 150 f 6,5.

i order a JMI TNT FOR VIXEN and will fit on it.
when it is done i will comeback with pictures and coments

good sky

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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: vmstar]
      #5768258 - 03/31/13 08:54 AM

John, excellent modifications, but can give more details why the goto / tracking will not work in Alt/Az?
I can understand Synscan may not have an Alt/az mode as its designed for EQ5 but is that the only reason?


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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: netwolf]
      #5768439 - 03/31/13 10:16 AM

Seems a no brainer. ES has acquired the Giro brand after knocking off the Giro 3 with the Twinstar. So future Giros will be made in the PRC. Tech2000 has introduced a US made replacement for the Giro that runs $600 and ES is having success with the Twinstar. I have the Giro three and often wish for slomotion controls. OTOH the simple to set up Alt/Az is my most used mount. Mine is also set up to use the HEQ-5/6 tripod, but requires a 10mm retention bolt rather that the 12mm. It can also be used on a CG-5/GP tripod so it can be used with as light or heavy tripod as is needed. For the WO 72mm the old style CG-4 tripod is fine. You really can't ask for a better grab and observe package. I'd have to consider the SkyTee 2 for its greater flexibility.

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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: Geo.]
      #6132033 - 10/11/13 09:37 PM

After reading through this thread I've searched high and low looking for any distributors that have these in stock. No luck! Canadian telescope had the Duo-T at one point, but appear not to sell them anymore. Have they dropped off the market due to problems with the mounts or lack of demand? Figures I come late to the party on mount that would be perfect for my needs!
Btw Joh, awesome job on mod-ing up yours!


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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: MLB]
      #6132086 - 10/11/13 10:03 PM

Quote:

After reading through this thread I've searched high and low looking for any distributors that have these in stock. No luck! Canadian telescope had the Duo-T at one point, but appear not to sell them anymore. Have they dropped off the market due to problems with the mounts or lack of demand? Figures I come late to the party on mount that would be perfect for my needs!
Btw Joh, awesome job on mod-ing up yours!




Don't know why Canadian Telescope stopped selling their version of the mount but I doubt that it was because of problems with it. I had a SkyTee II and loved it. If you can fInd one buy it. Don't know what shipping would be from Europe, that may make it prohibitively expensive. For about $400 without the tripod it was a great buy.

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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: Mkofski]
      #6132141 - 10/11/13 10:29 PM

Mike,
I posted a "Wanted" in the classifieds, watch and wait I guess. I agree, haven't really seen bad postings on them. I have family that travels to Europe fairly frequently, I suppose just the mount would fit in a carry on bag. We'll see which one pans out first.......


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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: MLB]
      #6132172 - 10/11/13 10:51 PM

The mount would fit easily in a carry on bag but is on the heavy side. About 15 to 20 pounds as I remember. It fits nicely on a CG5 tripod and uses the same size counterweight. Good luck finding one.

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Re: Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? new [Re: ioflying]
      #6132232 - 10/11/13 11:34 PM

"Would you buy a Skywatcher SkyTee 2 if available ? If available in the USA that is...."

Nah.

There's no shortage of good alt-az mounts available in the USA. Desert Sky Astro, Disc Mounts, Half Hitch, T-Rex, UA, etc.

CT sold a similar Chinese import called the Duo T for awhile, too.

http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11/Number/5137585/Main/5135042

Not sure why they dropped it, but I believe it was in the $450 range.

Regards,

Jim

Edited by jrbarnett (10/11/13 11:40 PM)


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