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EFT
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Re: AZ EQ6 in the US? new [Re: Lee Jay]
      #5506062 - 11/05/12 10:08 PM

Quote:

Quote:

The tripod can easily be upgraded.




How?




With an aftermarket spreader or a wooden tripod.


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Lee Jay
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Re: AZ EQ6 in the US? new [Re: EFT]
      #5506083 - 11/05/12 10:24 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

The tripod can easily be upgraded.




How?




With an aftermarket spreader or a wooden tripod.




Oh, I was thinking someone made compatible replacement legs.


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andysea
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Re: AZ EQ6 in the US? new [Re: Lee Jay]
      #5506195 - 11/05/12 11:50 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

The tripod can easily be upgraded.




How?




With an aftermarket spreader or a wooden tripod.




Oh, I was thinking someone made compatible replacement legs.




I was thinking that Rob Miller could probably make a tripod for it.


Andy


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astro_baby
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Re: AZ EQ6 in the US? new [Re: andysea]
      #5506295 - 11/06/12 02:40 AM

Tripod upgrade here....these are quite popular in the UK if you want to spend big.....

http://www.berlebach.de/?bereich=firma&sprache=english

Also here for the model numbers that fit the EQ6

http://www.firstlightoptics.com/tripods.html

Edited by astro_baby (11/06/12 02:45 AM)


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andysea
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Re: AZ EQ6 in the US? new [Re: astro_baby]
      #5506437 - 11/06/12 08:02 AM

Those are excellent tripods.
The Rob Miller that I have weighs 8 lbs and is just as stable.
The price is about the same.
Andy


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ylin
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Re: AZ EQ6 in the US? new [Re: andysea]
      #5507251 - 11/06/12 05:12 PM

I am also skipping the Lx-80 mount. I was thinking about TEK or AP mount but decided they are too expensive for me at this moment.

Now I am betting on this mount...


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Re: AZ EQ6 in the US? new [Re: ylin]
      #5507465 - 11/06/12 07:55 PM

The site:
http://www.astroshop.com.au/guides/sky-watcher-azeq6gt.asp
has a detailed review and nice mount pictures. Still the Synscan style microstepping drive (now 720:1 mechanical reduction, including 4:1 belt-drive).

The encoder feedback is rather coarse: 6356 count (or 25424 ticks)/360 degrees (which is approx. 3.4 arc-min resolution) for push to. Note: 6356 = 2x2x7x227 so most likely the encoder is a Renishaw magnetic tape based.

P.S. I do worry about the Alt-Az mode sidereal tracking, since it's microstepping based, unlike DC perm-mag servo design. It is not easy to do smooth and gap-less speed incremental changes, (see my timing loop analysis on the regular EQ6 in CN's ATM subforum here), unless it now uses NCO as its timing source.

Clear Skies!

ccs_hello


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TMSP
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Re: AZ EQ6 in the US? new [Re: Lee Jay]
      #5525798 - 11/18/12 10:15 AM

I see Orion has now posted their version of this. I see that the GPS is not included, nor the camera control and the IN conncection for the power has a different configuration, plus it priced +$100.

Are there other difference that are normally built into the Orion v. Skywatcher version? Folks say they are the same, but are there other differences that are other typically used to diffentiate the product? Thanks,


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andysea
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Re: AZ EQ6 in the US? new [Re: ylin]
      #5525959 - 11/18/12 11:52 AM

It looks like it's going to be a great mount. The belt drive should be a big improvement with respect to DEC guiding. I wish Orion had kept the SW power-in connector which looks sturdier. That however can easily be upgraded by the owner after the warranty has expired.

Andy


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TMSP
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Re: AZ EQ6 in the US? new [Re: Lee Jay]
      #5526126 - 11/18/12 01:13 PM

Orion is coming, Orion is coming - Yes, they have announced their version for 1/13 shipment and a different feature set e.g. no GPS +$100.

Is there much difference in the handbox program between OR and SW versions that really make a difference?

I bailed on the LX80 after I saw this and looking forward to first revolution reports.

Seems to me, a SW from Canada at -100, +GPS might be the way to go, but does the Handbox features tip it the other way?


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martl
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Re: AZ EQ6 in the US? new [Re: TMSP]
      #5528395 - 11/19/12 04:58 PM Attachment (142 downloads)

I got my mount today and set it up indoors. So far it looks rather promising, in my version an illuminated polarscope is included (although it is still the rather crude reticle familiar to CGEM users), the slip clutches work well and also the elevation adjustment seems to be executed well. Contrary to what I've glimpsed in one of the threads the 12V jack can't be aditionally fastened with a screw (would have been a clever idea). Stability seems ok with my 17KG 10"f5 Newton, the mount is more stable than a first look would suggest despite it is rather lightweight. I can hardly wait for outdoor tests if weather permits.

CS
MArtin


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andysea
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Re: AZ EQ6 in the US? new [Re: martl]
      #5528404 - 11/19/12 05:03 PM

Congrats Martin! That looks great. Keep up posted with your impressions.

Andy


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astro_baby
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Re: AZ EQ6 in the US? new [Re: andysea]
      #5528414 - 11/19/12 05:12 PM

So does yours have the standard 2.1mm jack ?

I was curious as go what the two pin screw down connector was seen on some of these, cant find it in any electro catalogues but it looks nicer, more secure and safe. Would like one as a retro fit.

It does look a nice moun though....congrats.


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andysea
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Re: AZ EQ6 in the US? new [Re: astro_baby]
      #5528443 - 11/19/12 05:31 PM

Quote:

So does yours have the standard 2.1mm jack ?

I was curious as go what the two pin screw down connector was seen on some of these, cant find it in any electro catalogues but it looks nicer, more secure and safe. Would like one as a retro fit.

It does look a nice moun though....congrats.



My Mach1 has a screw-down power connector so I know that they exist. I can take a picture and post it perhaps that will help finding a similar product online.

Andy


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astro_baby
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Re: AZ EQ6 in the US? new [Re: andysea]
      #5529320 - 11/20/12 02:32 AM

Sorry andy, that was meant for mari. I can get a screw down power with a 2.1 mm jack but the problem with the ones I can aource is they stick out too far at the back end. The new two pin thing which seems to appear on some of the new EQ6 Alt Az mounts looks nicer and, I am hoping, may have a lower profile back end.

I cant believe its unique but I just cant find a connector like it. It may be some weird Japanese/far East connector like some of the Vixens which use a Marushin connector thats near impossible ro source in the uk unless you want to buy 100 of them.


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martl
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Re: AZ EQ6 in the US? new [Re: andysea]
      #5530134 - 11/20/12 01:14 PM

There is some sort of thumb screw on the connector, but seemingly only for preventing it frob being insertet too far. I know that devices with additional thumbscrews for fastening do exist, but they are rare. Hopefully I can do some tests tonite.

CS
MArtin


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jrbarnett
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Re: AZ EQ6 in the US? new [Re: Kevin Lahey]
      #5530414 - 11/20/12 03:25 PM

It would have been better as a replacement for the Atlas EQ-G at the $1500 price level. I'm not sure that you get enough extra capacity over the Atlas to justify the +$700 cost of the new mount over the still-available Atlas or a CGEM. Also, they could have given it the CGEM DX treatment (slapping the new head on a heftier tripod) and created more of a capacity delta between it and the Atlas. I wonder what they were thinking?

Regards,

Jim


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martl
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Re: AZ EQ6 in the US? [Re: martl]
      #5530492 - 11/20/12 03:51 PM

I hooked up the autoguider and the guiding works so far very smooth, about 1/2 of my old homemade mount. Goto was a little off, buth this is more due to the user (first time ever I work with a goto mount). I am really curious how this will turn out at the end of the imaging session.

CS
Martin


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Mike X.
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Re: AZ EQ6 in the US? [Re: martl]
      #5530613 - 11/20/12 04:54 PM

Hello Martin, congratulations on the new mount!!
Please keep the info coming,specially if you do guided photography as i understand.
I bet many of us here are very interested on user feedback regarding this mount!

PS: At least i am mostly for photographic use.
Congrats again reall nice looking!

Edited by Mike X. (11/20/12 04:55 PM)


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martl
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Re: AZ EQ6 in the US? [Re: martl]
      #5530692 - 11/20/12 05:43 PM Attachment (159 downloads)

Bingo! 20 out of 20x4min turned out to be perfectly round 100% crop with 200/900mm Newton, guided with OAG and MGEN. Very happy indeed so far!!

CS
Martin


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