· Get a Cloudy Nights T-Shirt · Submit a Review / Article Click here if you are having trouble logging into the forums Privacy Policy | Please read our Terms of Service | Signup and Troubleshooting FAQ | Problems? PM a Red or a Green Gu… uh, User You are not logged in. [Login] Entrance · Main Index · Search · New user · Who's Online FAQ · Calendar Equipment Discussions >> Mounts Previous   Index   Next   Threaded   Pages: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | (show all) Starhawk Post Laureate Reged: 09/16/08 Loc: Tucson, Arizona Re: MX discount... [Re: RussD]       #5673734 - 02/11/13 10:07 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   What boats are you looking at that even an AP 3600 doesn't look hilariously cheap next to? The mounts are a one-and-done. A boat is proverbially the hole in the water to pour money into. How about Harleys? Astronomy is the cheapest midlife crisis you can get into. The market is small and all, but what AP boils down to isn't some business guy trying to squeeze every dime out of astronomy; it's about making what Roland wanted for himself available to others. I've talked to him about this-this IS his retirement. All he's trying to do is cover expenses. Try and buy a high end mount from the folks who really are trying to do it for profit, like Newport or Contraves. That should correct your interpretations on the cost of precision equipment. -Rich Post Extras:       psandelle sage Reged: 06/18/08 Loc: Los Angeles Re: MX discount... [Re: Starhawk]       #5673768 - 02/11/13 10:21 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Yeah, but with a Contraves, you can track missiles as well. There's a certain sense of security in knowing you can grab some good Ha data AND nail an incoming North Korean ICBM as well. Post Extras:       orlyandico Carpal Tunnel Reged: 08/10/09 Loc: Singapore Re: MX discount... [Re: psandelle]       #5674005 - 02/11/13 12:46 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   I think a better analogy is the Japanese observatory class mounts, like the big Taks (EM-3500) and the Goto's. When you compare the price of an EM-3500 to the AP3600 with a similar capacity, the 3600 is hilariously cheap in comparison. Post Extras:       RussD member Reged: 04/20/06 Loc: Minnesota Re: MX discount... [Re: Starhawk]       #5674941 - 02/11/13 10:42 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Rich, Ok maybe my analogy was not perfectly on. But where I am from (the land of 10,000 lakes) you can get a pretty nice fishing boat for the cost of an AP3600. So to the average joe a thing that tracks the stars is way over priced when you can get a fishing boat for the same amount. I can just hear it now..."You wanna try tracking something really tough, try going after a walleye....that sort of thing." I think we are agreeing on this and you may have taken what I said in the opposite way I intended. We are all very very thankful that Roland runs his business the way he does. I now own three of his mounts and a telescope of his making. He could sell a whole lot fewer mounts for a whole lot more if he wanted to. So could Bisque. But they both are in it for us. And I am glad for that. The 3600 is the ONE product in recent memory that had a price so low that it shocked me. That is probably the biggest steal in astronomy right now. Russ Post Extras:       Pages: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | (show all) Previous   Index   Next   Threaded   Extra information 18 registered and 33 anonymous users are browsing this forum. 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