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coz
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Reged: 08/25/10

AP900 successor?
      #5700099 - 02/25/13 03:45 PM

Roland C. mentioned on the yahoo groups that they are working hard to have a new mount at NEAF this year. AP900 replacement?

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mgwhittle
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Re: AP900 successor? new [Re: coz]
      #5700224 - 02/25/13 04:50 PM

Well.....the 1600 is new, the 3600 and Mach 1 doesn't need an update so that leaves the 900. Roland has said he wants to create a larger difference in performance between the Mach 1, 900 and 1200. The 1200 became the 1600, the Mach 1 doesn't need any change in specs, so the 900 needs to be improved to be more in between those two.

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vahe
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Reged: 08/27/05

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Re: AP900 successor? new [Re: coz]
      #5700249 - 02/25/13 05:04 PM

Quote:

AP900 replacement?





Roland mentioned this on tec-ug:

"We have new mounts coming that are an improvement over the previous models. The new 1600 has many more features and options than the 1200 mount had. It is also much more accurate in guiding. This year you will see a new mount that replaces the old 900 mount with similar features as the 1600. These new mounts are totally new designs, and not just an adaptation of the older ones. They can hold more weight and you can place cables thru the mount axes."

Vahe


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coz
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Reged: 08/25/10

Re: AP900 successor? new [Re: vahe]
      #5700388 - 02/25/13 06:44 PM

Sounds great.

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coz
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Reged: 08/25/10

Re: AP900 successor? *DELETED* *DELETED* new [Re: vahe]
      #5700390 - 02/25/13 06:44 PM

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frolinmod
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Reged: 08/06/10

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Re: AP900 successor? new [Re: coz]
      #5700426 - 02/25/13 07:15 PM

Coz, are you absolutely positively sure it sounds great?

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Tom and Beth
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Re: AP900 successor? new [Re: coz]
      #5701280 - 02/26/13 09:54 AM

Quote:

Roland C. mentioned on the yahoo groups that they are working hard to have a new mount at NEAF this year. AP900 replacement?




If only more companies followed Astro Physics' business model of Ccontinous Product Improvement as well as Customer Support.


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Starhawk
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Reged: 09/16/08

Loc: Tucson, Arizona
Re: AP900 successor? new [Re: Tom and Beth]
      #5701493 - 02/26/13 11:48 AM

And I'll get to see it at ASAE, later this year!

-Rich


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Starhawk
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Re: AP900 successor? new [Re: Starhawk]
      #5702229 - 02/26/13 06:27 PM

I wonder if it really will be an AP1000. Or maybe it will be the Diablo.

He seems to be on a car kick these days, you know. On that thought, perhaps it is more likely it would be the Cobra.

-Rich


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andysea
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Re: AP900 successor? new [Re: Starhawk]
      #5702757 - 02/27/13 12:05 AM

Quote:

I Or maybe it will be the Diablo.
-Rich




....I suggest Fiorano:)...besides car references I am really curious too about the successor of the AP900. The 900 is next to get for my collection of mounts I wonder if we will see more used ones hit the market as people upgrade.
Andy


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Paul G
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Re: AP900 successor? new [Re: andysea]
      #5703190 - 02/27/13 10:22 AM

Quote:

Quote:

I Or maybe it will be the Diablo.
-Rich




....I suggest Fiorano:)...besides car references I am really curious too about the successor of the AP900. The 900 is next to get for my collection of mounts I wonder if we will see more used ones hit the market as people upgrade.
Andy




I suspect you will, seems to have been more 1200's available used once the 1600 started to ship.


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Starhawk
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Re: AP900 successor? new [Re: Paul G]
      #5703402 - 02/27/13 12:17 PM

A bunch of people already have AP 1600s. Start looking around for 1200s.

-Rich


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coz
sage


Reged: 08/25/10

Re: AP900 successor? new [Re: Starhawk]
      #5703495 - 02/27/13 01:12 PM

Roland said today that this new mount will have a 100-120lb capacity still TBD and it will weigh 42 lbs (26+16). This is like 10 lbs lighter than the 900 I think?

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coz
sage


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Re: AP900 successor? new [Re: coz]
      #5705140 - 02/28/13 11:24 AM

AP1100 it is

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pop
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Reged: 02/11/05

Re: AP900 successor? new [Re: coz]
      #5705215 - 02/28/13 12:08 PM

it will be called AP100 as Roland stated.

Edited by pop (02/28/13 12:09 PM)


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dawziecat
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Re: AP900 successor? new [Re: pop]
      #5705397 - 02/28/13 01:50 PM

How long did it take for the AP1600 to start shipping after it was first announced?

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Footbag
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Re: AP900 successor? new [Re: coz]
      #5705408 - 02/28/13 01:59 PM

Quote:

Roland said today that this new mount will have a 100-120lb capacity still TBD and it will weigh 42 lbs (26+16). This is like 10 lbs lighter than the 900 I think?




Whoa! That's light.

I'm guessing this one will have absolute encoders available.


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Aquarist
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Re: AP900 successor? new [Re: Footbag]
      #5705531 - 02/28/13 03:12 PM

Well according to the latest email, it will be called AP1100. My recollection of the shipping lag for the AP1600 was about 4 months; however I am not at the beginning of the shipping queue. All that being said, I am hopeful of getting mine this spring.

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LLEEGE
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Re: AP900 successor? new [Re: Aquarist]
      #5705596 - 02/28/13 03:40 PM

Last year at NEAF, Howard said he figured it would be the 1000 or Grand.

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Tom and Beth
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Re: AP900 successor? new [Re: LLEEGE]
      #5705723 - 02/28/13 04:48 PM

Quote:

Last year at NEAF, Howard said he figured it would be the 1000 or Grand.




Roland posted that there is already another mount with (that/similar?) name.

Anyway, The specs sound incredible for mobile imagers. Tempting to sell my AP600 but I don't remote image enough to justify the $$$$$


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mgwhittle
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Re: AP900 successor? new [Re: Tom and Beth]
      #5705855 - 02/28/13 05:52 PM

Roland posted today on the AP GTO users group that it will be called the 1100. No word on price yet.

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mgwhittle
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Re: AP900 successor? new [Re: coz]
      #5705876 - 02/28/13 06:02 PM

Quote:

Roland said today that this new mount will have a 100-120lb capacity still TBD and it will weigh 42 lbs (26+16). This is like 10 lbs lighter than the 900 I think?




No it's one pound lighter than the 900GTO. The 900 has a 17 pound DEC and 26 pound RA so they have reduced the DEC by a pound. The quoted total weight of the 900GTO is 54 pounds but includes the 10 pound counterweight shaft. However, how fantastic is it that they were able to reduce any weight but significantly increase the payload capacity by 50%.

Edited by mgwhittle (02/28/13 06:03 PM)


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korborh
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Reged: 01/29/11

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Re: AP900 successor? new [Re: mgwhittle]
      #5705912 - 02/28/13 06:21 PM

Quote:

However, how fantastic is it that they were able to reduce any weight but significantly increase the payload capacity by 50%.




Perhaps the AP900/1200 mounts are significantly overbuilt so they are just eating into the conservative spec before? My AP1200 looks and feels very overdesigned.
The (costly to make) setting circles are gone however


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mgwhittle
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Re: AP900 successor? new [Re: korborh]
      #5705962 - 02/28/13 06:49 PM

Yes, I noticed they said they were gone. While I would rarely ever use them I like the option.

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korborh
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Re: AP900 successor? new [Re: mgwhittle]
      #5706255 - 02/28/13 09:42 PM

I use them to plan my sessions without powering up the mount and trying to see how far I can image without meridian flip. The circles go great with the clutch.

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dawziecat
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Re: AP900 successor? new [Re: korborh]
      #5706795 - 03/01/13 09:13 AM

I am in a quandary. I need a mount. I'd buy the AP1100 in a heartbeat right now. But it's just not available.

While a new AP900 would fit my needs admirably, I want the new one!!

Any comments on the wisdom of being the "first" AP1100 customer? AP will get it right the first time?


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Aquarist
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Re: AP900 successor? new [Re: dawziecat]
      #5706856 - 03/01/13 09:41 AM

The odds of AP getting it right the first time are, in my opinion, quite high.

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Starhawk
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Re: AP900 successor? new [Re: Aquarist]
      #5706873 - 03/01/13 09:51 AM

Given they have to see every single one work and put the PEC values for a three cycle run into it before it ships, there is no real risk of what shows up not working.

-Rich


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Footbag
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Re: AP900 successor? new [Re: Starhawk]
      #5706881 - 03/01/13 09:53 AM

AP is one of the only companies I wouldn't mind being an early adopter.

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Ray Gralak
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Re: AP900 successor? new [Re: dawziecat]
      #5706902 - 03/01/13 10:03 AM

Quote:

I am in a quandary. I need a mount. I'd buy the AP1100 in a heartbeat right now. But it's just not available.

While a new AP900 would fit my needs admirably, I want the new one!!

Any comments on the wisdom of being the "first" AP1100 customer? AP will get it right the first time?



Although the mechanicals may have changed I think that the control box and servo controllers should be the same. In other worse the mount should work great.

Note to moderators: even though I did the ASCOM driver for AP I got very little advance notice of the AP1100, and even the Ap1600 and 3600 mounts before they were announced. AP does not tell me any more than I absolutely need to know... maybe even less! LOL!

-Ray


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WadeH237
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Re: AP900 successor? new [Re: dawziecat]
      #5706980 - 03/01/13 10:53 AM

Quote:

Any comments on the wisdom of being the "first" AP1100 customer? AP will get it right the first time?




When I was ready to get an AP mount, I got on the list for the 1200. When they announced the cancellation of the 1200, they put me on the list for the 1600.

This is probably the best thing that could have ever happened. I got one of the first batch of 1600s. It has thoroughly exceeded my expectations in every way. And it has features, like through the mount cabling, that the 1200 did not have. I had no idea how much I needed this feature until I had it.

If I were in the market for a 900 sized mount right now, I would switch to the 1100 without any hesitation at all. It is shaping up to look like an incredible mount for portable operation.


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