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Mkofski
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LX80 tripod failure (another)
      #5775864 - 04/03/13 03:51 PM Attachment (118 downloads)

I've been a supporter of the LX80 since I received mine last September. I guess I still am but my tripod failed last night. Talked to Meade customer support today and they are replacing it but I have to pay the return shipping. That may be normal but in this case I think they should have paid the shipping.

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DuiA1
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Re: LX80 tripod failure (another) new [Re: Mkofski]
      #5775880 - 04/03/13 04:02 PM

Wow...that blows. That is a weak design. I'm really considering using the lx90 field tripod as a substitute...with an adapter. Sorry for your trouble Mike.

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jonbosley
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Re: LX80 tripod failure (another) new [Re: DuiA1]
      #5775888 - 04/03/13 04:05 PM

Is it made of plastic?

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Mkofski
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Re: LX80 tripod failure (another) new [Re: jonbosley]
      #5775938 - 04/03/13 04:29 PM

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Is it made of plastic?




Nope, metal. There have been 1 or 2 others that failed the same way. I know why it failed and won't do that again... When I was setting up I needed to turn the tripod slightly to get it pointing north. I didn't pick it up and rotate it but just pushed. Still, I don't think it should have broken.


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Mkofski
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Re: LX80 tripod failure (another) new [Re: DuiA1]
      #5775943 - 04/03/13 04:32 PM

Quote:

Wow...that blows. That is a weak design. I'm really considering using the lx90 field tripod as a substitute...with an adapter. Sorry for your trouble Mike.




Thanks. Yes, it looks like a design problem. I think I'll get a pier set up. I think I can make one for under $100.


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Re: LX80 tripod failure (another) new [Re: Mkofski]
      #5775945 - 04/03/13 04:33 PM

I wholeheartedly agree. Again, this looks like cast "white metal" which is extremely brittle under stress.

Are you covered under warranty?


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Mkofski
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Re: LX80 tripod failure (another) new [Re: Awesomelenny]
      #5775957 - 04/03/13 04:42 PM

Yes, it is brittle... luckily it is till under warranty until September.

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Cliff Hipsher
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Re: LX80 tripod failure (another) new [Re: Mkofski]
      #5776020 - 04/03/13 05:25 PM

That is totally unsatisfactory. I was seriously considering saving for a LX80, but after seeing this, no way.....

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dmdouglass
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Re: LX80 tripod failure (another) new [Re: Cliff Hipsher]
      #5776079 - 04/03/13 05:56 PM

Howdy Mike....

Hmmmmmm
I think i can relate to that !!
How about the mount ??
Was it attached at the time ?? OTA ??

Hopefully, no other damage.
When mine failed, and fell before my very eyes....
I know what you must have felt.

I am still certain that in the fall, the mount was damaged.
Not a problem, as in the end, the entire unit was returned for refund.

I know that Meade wanted my "plate" returned to be studied by engineering. I never did hear what (if anything) they found. Probably never well. I did talk to the guys at the Tucson astronomy event (Meade was there in force), and they were sort of "mum" on the subject.


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Mkofski
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Re: LX80 tripod failure (another) new [Re: dmdouglass]
      #5776323 - 04/03/13 08:01 PM

David,

No damage to anything but the mount. I'm sure I contributed to the break because I was trying to rotate the entire set up a degree or 2 without picking it up so I was holding on to it when it failed. The rotational stress was just too much for the mount. I do,think it should be able to stand up to that type of use/abuse.


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Mkofski
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Re: LX80 tripod failure (another) new [Re: Cliff Hipsher]
      #5776334 - 04/03/13 08:10 PM

Quote:

That is totally unsatisfactory. I was seriously considering saving for a LX80, but after seeing this, no way.....




Cliff,

I received a call late today from Jose at Meade. His supervisor decided that they should pay for the return shipping. I would much rather that the tripod did not fail but Meade has decided to take care of it the way they should have.

I still think that it is a great mount for under $1000. If I'd had $2500 or more for a mount I guess I would have looked elsewhere.


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Re: LX80 tripod failure (another) new [Re: Mkofski]
      #5776586 - 04/03/13 09:59 PM

I just need to ask.
Where is this unit made?
China ?
USA ?


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Mkofski
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Re: LX80 tripod failure (another) new [Re: Red Shift]
      #5776647 - 04/03/13 10:24 PM

China

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Re: LX80 tripod failure (another) new [Re: Mkofski]
      #5777048 - 04/04/13 06:33 AM

It looks to me as if part of the problem is in the design.

The sharp corners where the tripod leg attachments connect to the top of the tripod will act as stress concentrators. The leg is braced against the top of the tripod as well so the probability of there being high stress in that area is great.

Where was it designed? Probably the USA.

Chris


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Re: LX80 tripod failure (another) new [Re: Red Shift]
      #5777130 - 04/04/13 07:42 AM

Quote:

I just need to ask.
Where is this unit made?
China ?
USA ?




Meade does not make anything in the U.S. any longer.

Edited by rmollise (04/04/13 07:42 AM)


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Re: LX80 tripod failure (another) new [Re: cn register 5]
      #5777263 - 04/04/13 10:04 AM

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Where was it designed? Probably the USA.

Chris




Ya might wanna keep comments like that to yourself....


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Cliff Hipsher
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Re: LX80 tripod failure (another) new [Re: Red Shift]
      #5777271 - 04/04/13 10:07 AM

Quote:

I just need to ask.
Where is this unit made?
China ?
USA ?




Mexico: Manufacturing Facility


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Re: LX80 tripod failure (another) new [Re: Cliff Hipsher]
      #5777299 - 04/04/13 10:19 AM

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Mexico: Manufacturing Facility




The higher-end stuff comes from Mexico but I'd be surprised to hear that the LX80 isn't purchased overseas like the other less expensive gear. The tripod head would surely be purchased from China (I doubt that Meade has a casting facility anywhere) even if the mount were assembled over here.


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Re: LX80 tripod failure (another) new [Re: Cliff Hipsher]
      #5777323 - 04/04/13 10:34 AM

Quote:

Quote:


Where was it designed? Probably the USA.
Chris



Ya might wanna keep comments like that to yourself....



It looks like a poor design to me, for the reasons I stated, and so it seems just as relevant to consider where it was designed as well as where it was manufactured. If the location of either activity matters at all.

It might take nothing more than a modification to the mould to fix it, radius the sharp edges.


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Mkofski
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Re: LX80 tripod failure (another) new [Re: cn register 5]
      #5777341 - 04/04/13 10:44 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:


Where was it designed? Probably the USA.
Chris



Ya might wanna keep comments like that to yourself....



It looks like a poor design to me, for the reasons I stated, and so it seems just as relevant to consider where it was designed as well as where it was manufactured. If the location of either activity matters at all.

It might take nothing more than a modification to the mould to fix it, radius the sharp edges.




I think it was the assumption that it was designed in the USA was the objectionable part. I'd have to agree based on how it read to me. I assumed that the design was done in the US because Meade is located here not because of the inferior quality of the design.


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