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Whichwayisnorth
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Re: Meade LX850 new [Re: Starhawk]
      #6394619 - 02/24/14 05:00 PM

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The last time I checked, Mexico hadn't petitioned to join the United States.

-Rich

America is a continent not a country.

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Many of us would suggest an American made mount (yes, they still exist):




Yes, they do. The LX850 is an example!

I realize, of course, that you meant a USA-made mount. There's an early (CP2) AP900 on Astromart at a very attractive price just now.







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WesC
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Re: Meade LX850 new [Re: Whichwayisnorth]
      #6394644 - 02/24/14 05:20 PM

Sophistry... this country is colloquially known as America.

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Spacetravelerx
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Re: Meade LX850 new [Re: Whichwayisnorth]
      #6394714 - 02/24/14 06:00 PM Attachment (8 downloads)

Hoo Boy! I leave for the day for satellite design planning meetings, review of a new flight computer, and a tasty lunch and come to find a bit more chatter on the board here!

So, let me try to address some of the comments, questions and all that here:

* The LX850 is made in Mexico. The quality is excellent and so far it seems everyone who owns a LX850 is pleased with it. Meade is also highly responsive to owners of the LX850 (though they are responsive to those of less costly products too).

* Mach1GTO is a very nice mount and is very light weight for its class. I know, I am getting one for deep field, remote use, BUT do not let anyone kid you on a few points. Be prepared to spend close to $10k. Secondly, yes people load it beyond the rated approximate 45 lbs, but A-P will not guarantee that. Are the posters here on CN going to back up their claims monetarily, since certainly A-P will not? It is very nice for some folks on CN to volunteer that for A-P. Me? I am going with the vendor specs.

* AP900 is very good, but you are going used. And you still need to add all the extras.

* LX850 is heavier than the AP900 and Mach1GTO. But also remember, LX850 is rated for 90 lbs, AP900 for 70 lbs, and Mach1GTO for 45 lbs. Yeah, yeah the users go way beyond those numbers, but A-P will not guarantee that. Nice of folks to push the specs, but really not fair to A-P. If you are comfortable going beyond the specs, cool. I am an engineer so I prefer to follow the vendor ratings.

* For what you want to do Vince, the LX850 will work fine and can be lightened up. I not only use it for my 14" ACF/80mm APO combo but also my 130mm APO with cameras and such (see attached pict).

* Frank loves the use of OAG and that is fine. You can use them with the LX850 if you prefer. I have simply not found the need to yet with the 80mm APO (f/l 480mm), the 130mm APO (f/l 910mm), and the 14" f/8 ACF (f/l 2845mm). Many folks have no problems going 10, 20 or 30min on the exposure front with the LX850. And the reviews in Astronomy and S&T bare this out. Now what would be nice is using adaptive optics, something I would like to play with down the road. Either way, based on your requirements Vince, the LX850 will easily meet your needs.

So for $5,999 with the LX850 you get:

* DUAL guiders (no one does this FYI).
* Nearly turnkey system - or you can go on your own with it and build your own creation!
* Auto PEC
* Auto rate calibration
* Auto drift alignment
* High precision pointing
* GPS
* Ability to run cables internally
* Payloads for astrophotography of up to 90 lbs
* Excellent quality mount
* Excellent support for this mount from Meade.

Also of note, my LX850 mount has been outdoors since last October, 2013 and has been through Sun, heat, snow, high winds, dust, temperatures under 0 deg F and humidity ranges from 10% to 80% (with the cover on of course when not in use) - and the mount is still performing extremely well!

I don't know if this is possible, however see if Meade can flex on the price - you just missed their sale when the mount was being sold for I believe $1000 off.

The A-P products are wonderful and I am getting the Mach1GTO (though the 10 Micron is teasing me…), BUT be very realistic on the price as it will blow your budget. The LX850 is well within your budget and is a high quality unit. And it totally performs as advertised. Others will talk smack about the LX850, but none are owners (I know, weird huh?).

Lastly, I am speaking from experience - the LX850 is truly easy to use and none of the fuss with it such as "techniques and tricks for carefully balancing East" or stuff like that. The LX850 "just works" and is very flexible to meet your needs right out of the box. What I love about it most? I can focus on planning my night and processing the image vs. messing around with the mount and telescope causing me to lose very valuable imaging/observing time. I find it a hoot folks buying a mount and then having to add all these tools which require a PC, and dealing with integrating it all together. I simply do not need to do that, nor do I have the time.

Again if you are in the area when I am in New Mexico you are welcome to take a look at the LX850.


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Pak
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Re: Meade LX850 new [Re: Spacetravelerx]
      #6394863 - 02/24/14 07:36 PM

I wonder if it is possible for STX to respond to any post in less than 500 characters.

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Spacetravelerx
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Reged: 12/23/12

Loc: New Mexico
Re: Meade LX850 new [Re: Pak]
      #6394866 - 02/24/14 07:37 PM

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I wonder if it is possible for STX to respond to any post in less than 500 characters.




No way, that is why I can't even use Twitter!


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Mkofski
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Re: Meade LX850 new [Re: Spacetravelerx]
      #6394876 - 02/24/14 07:43 PM

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I wonder if it is possible for STX to respond to any post in less than 500 characters.




No way, that is why I can't even use Twitter!






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WesC
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Re: Meade LX850 new [Re: Mkofski]
      #6395463 - 02/25/14 02:52 AM

I don't care about manufacturer guarantees. Real users have stated that the Mach 1 can handle well over it's stated weight limits. That's more than enough reality for me. I've also seen this mount in person being used by several different people and it's a literal work of art. I'll take that over any Chinese mount any day.

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mmalik
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Re: Meade LX850 new [Re: hungerford]
      #6395479 - 02/25/14 03:10 AM

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Many thank for your replies. My budget is $7000 for the mount only. Which other mount would you consider. I have got nothing against Chinese made mount but I am concerned about their quality issues.
Vince




Vince, I would look at iOptron's CEM-60, coming out soon, and possibly, if you increased your budget, GM1000HPS from 10Micron. Both are encoded. More on encoder discussion here...; my suggestion, don't buy anything until you have understood encoders at somewhat technical level; after that you can buy anything, encoded or not. Unguided imaging up to 10min are becoming a reality with encoded mounts. Regards


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hungerford
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Re: Meade LX850 new [Re: mmalik]
      #6395540 - 02/25/14 04:45 AM

Many thanks for your excellent feedback. The LX 850 is top of my list.
Vince


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gary-sue69
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Re: Meade LX850 new [Re: hungerford]
      #6395802 - 02/25/14 09:29 AM

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Many thanks for your excellent feedback. The LX 850 is top of my list.
Vince




You will love it Vince,


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alrosm
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Re: Meade LX850 new [Re: hungerford]
      #6398910 - 02/26/14 06:28 PM

How old is this mount, early 2013 ?

Perhaps a little bit too early to judge but why not.


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Spacetravelerx
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Re: Meade LX850 new [Re: alrosm]
      #6399084 - 02/26/14 08:37 PM

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How old is this mount, early 2013 ?

Perhaps a little bit too early to judge but why not.




That time frame is about right, early 2013.

Quite a few of the 14" models have been sold, however that is a number up for debate. The Meade haters put the number very low; others have a high number. We will never know, since Meade is not a public company. I do know talking with Woodland Hills they have sold quite a few LX850s. And there are more dealers than Woodlands Hills out there.

Very few complaints out there for the LX850. We did discuss on CN Meade4M community issues, but virtually all issues were caused by the users. Some concerns about ASCOM, but to be honest I think there are many issues with ASCOM (for me - "Just say no!" to ASCOM). When the dust settles in the next couple of weeks I will be starting the chatter in the community working on something better than ASCOM. I haven't seen any complaints about the LX850 on CN.

My one year anniversary on the LX850 comes up in early May. So far mine has worked perfectly. I think I have had 50 nights of use with my LX850 and it works wonderfully. Like I said, I am very pleased it is holding up very well outdoors when used in combination with the Telegizmos 365 cover. When I am set up for a multi-day observing run (let's say 10 days) all I need to do is take off the cover, remove the lens covers, turn on the LX850, do the ARC function, and I am good for the night. The only pains for me - the weather (though not as bad as for some of you folks) and the bright Moon.


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jrcrillyAdministrator
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Re: Meade LX850 new [Re: Spacetravelerx]
      #6399111 - 02/26/14 08:54 PM

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How old is this mount, early 2013 ?

Perhaps a little bit too early to judge but why not.




That time frame is about right, early 2013.




Agreed. Mine arrived, I believe, in March. I know it was here before NEAF in April because I spoke to the Meade guys there about having one.

I haven't managed anywhere near 50 sessions with this one but it hasn't broken yet.


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Spacetravelerx
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Re: Meade LX850 new [Re: jrcrilly]
      #6399205 - 02/26/14 10:00 PM

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Agreed. Mine arrived, I believe, in March. I know it was here before NEAF in April because I spoke to the Meade guys there about having one.

I haven't managed anywhere near 50 sessions with this one but it hasn't broken yet.




Yeah, for all my griping about the weather and Moon in New Mexico (plus travel), I have been lucky. If I was using the LX850 in Michigan I think I would have gotten maybe 3 days in?

IF the weather cooperates in New Mexico in March I should be able to get 12 more days in.

You need to take a tour down in New Mexico (or Arizona) John!


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