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Brett Carlson
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Amazing videos of Meteor in Russia!
      #5680765 - 02/15/13 07:16 AM

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=152_1360906606

www.liveleak.com has a ton more that I'm looking through now! What a sight!


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Re: Amazing videos of Meteor in Russia! new [Re: Brett Carlson]
      #5680776 - 02/15/13 07:30 AM

WOW! Amazing sight.

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Re: Amazing videos of Meteor in Russia! new [Re: Grava T]
      #5680888 - 02/15/13 08:57 AM

Great site!! Wall Street Journal had a great vid too

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Re: Amazing videos of Meteor in Russia! new [Re: Grava T]
      #5680910 - 02/15/13 09:05 AM

It's good thing everyone in Russia drives with dashcams. Not only do we get to see some of the worlds worst drivers, we're able to witness totally awesome events like this!

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Re: Amazing videos of Meteor in Russia! new [Re: zippeee]
      #5681014 - 02/15/13 09:48 AM

Amazing. Thanks for posting.

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Re: Amazing videos of Meteor in Russia! new [Re: Footbag]
      #5681130 - 02/15/13 10:46 AM

I thought they said we didn't have to worry about a asteroid hitting us today?

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Re: Amazing videos of Meteor in Russia! new [Re: wirenut]
      #5681177 - 02/15/13 11:07 AM

It didn't hit you, did it?
It wasn't really an asteroid, more like a rock.


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Re: Amazing videos of Meteor in Russia! new [Re: zippeee]
      #5681188 - 02/15/13 11:15 AM

Quote:

It's good thing everyone in Russia drives with dashcams. Not only do we get to see some of the worlds worst drivers, we're able to witness totally awesome events like this!




My understanding is that Russia has had hundreds of scammers who would jump into the path of a car, then sue for injuries. This happened so much that folks in urban areas got dashcams to document/thwart these scammers.

The "side benefits" from these cams that we're seeing today are absolutely awesome!


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Re: Amazing videos of Meteor in Russia! new [Re: Jim Rosenstock]
      #5681242 - 02/15/13 11:38 AM

SPECTACULAR!

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Re: Amazing videos of Meteor in Russia! new [Re: sullij1]
      #5681327 - 02/15/13 12:21 PM

Some reports are saying that a 20 ft crater was found in frozen lake

Edited by Chris5235 (02/15/13 12:22 PM)


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Brett Carlson
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Re: Amazing videos of Meteor in Russia! new [Re: Jim Rosenstock]
      #5681428 - 02/15/13 01:00 PM

Quote:

Quote:

It's good thing everyone in Russia drives with dashcams. Not only do we get to see some of the worlds worst drivers, we're able to witness totally awesome events like this!





My understanding is that Russia has had hundreds of scammers who would jump into the path of a car, then sue for injuries. This happened so much that folks in urban areas got dashcams to document/thwart these scammers.

The "side benefits" from these cams that we're seeing today are absolutely awesome!




Go to www.Liveleak.com and search for insurance scam and you will see why everyone in Russia drives with dash cams! Be aware that they show some gruesome and disturbing stuff on Liveleak but most of the time you are forewarned. There has to be two dozen video's of the meteor on there.


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Re: Amazing videos of Meteor in Russia! new [Re: sullij1]
      #5681521 - 02/15/13 01:34 PM

WOW!

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Re: Amazing videos of Meteor in Russia! new [Re: PhaedrusUpshaw]
      #5681796 - 02/15/13 03:35 PM

http://say26.com/meteorite-in-russia-all-videos-in-one-place

http://zyalt.livejournal.com/722930.html

I saw in one media video of a little girl with a bad cut on her cheek. Brought a tear to my eye to see her in pain. My prayers go to the people injured. William


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Re: Amazing videos of Meteor in Russia! new [Re: Brett Carlson]
      #5682828 - 02/16/13 04:55 AM

Its really a steep coinsindence that this meteor hits the same day as that asteroid passes over. Sorry if this has already been shot down, but is it possible that this rock was in some way related to DA14?

Also that 5th video down is just incredible. I have some hefty speakers. I turned up the bass and volume. That sound is just... terrifyingly awesome. SO lucky that this thing broke appart when it did. Any lower and, oi... My thoughts are with the injured.

Well.. thats one way to get more people to look up. Hello from SPACE. It DOES exist.

Edited by Motokid600 (02/16/13 05:09 AM)


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Re: Amazing videos of Meteor in Russia! new [Re: Motokid600]
      #5682948 - 02/16/13 08:21 AM

Hi,

Check out this online article from S&T. It's got good info and vids.


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Re: Amazing videos of Meteor in Russia! new [Re: Special Ed]
      #5683197 - 02/16/13 10:50 AM

Naturally, the original soundtrack in many or most of these videos features Russian expletives of the kind that if translated would jeopardize the American TV stations' licenses. It was funny to see how CBS, for example, rolled them with the original sound loud and clear.

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Re: Amazing videos of Meteor in Russia! new [Re: IVM]
      #5683384 - 02/16/13 12:16 PM

To add a bit of comic relief to a rather frightening situation, the one video in the city where the shock wave not only blasted out the windows but set off all the car alarms. I said to myself, "Sounds like Los Angeles!"

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Re: Amazing videos of Meteor in Russia! new [Re: hm insulators]
      #5683547 - 02/16/13 01:42 PM

Some of the people (who got outside the long office building in one of the videos) were talking about how they first thought it was WWIII. Now it is reported that the blast was equivalent to 0.5 megaton; the city (Chelyabinsk, population over a million) was saved by the altitude.

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Re: Amazing videos of Meteor in Russia! new [Re: hm insulators]
      #5683557 - 02/16/13 01:45 PM

Did anyone else notice that in the Ops original video

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=152_1360906606

That in the first video at approximately 0:20 seconds there looks like there is something that comes off to the left side rather than following the rest of the meteorite? What is that?


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Re: Amazing videos of Meteor in Russia! new [Re: bassplayer142]
      #5683595 - 02/16/13 02:05 PM

Looks to me like a reflection - either on the windshield or on the camera lens. If it's not, then it's pretty impressive. I did not notice it before in this video.

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Re: Amazing videos of Meteor in Russia! new [Re: IVM]
      #5685477 - 02/17/13 04:24 PM

Now theres news of more large meteors over Cuba and San Fransisco. Whats going on here? There must be a debris field moving through of somekind.

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Re: Amazing videos of Meteor in Russia! new [Re: IVM]
      #5685528 - 02/17/13 04:56 PM

Like they didn't see this one coming. Even if there was an asteroid or meteor was going to strike the earth. They would never tell us, think of the civil chaos that would ensue. Societal break down and strickened wide panic. And then after the fact, they have the odacity to address the general public looking like idiots, saying they didn't know it was coming and infer the need for more funding in space exploration. Way to go JPL and NASA.

Edited by Saclablue (02/17/13 04:58 PM)


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Re: Amazing videos of Meteor in Russia! new [Re: Saclablue]
      #5685785 - 02/17/13 07:26 PM

Likely every asteroid large or small has several much smaller companions orbiting nearby.

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Re: Amazing videos of Meteor in Russia! new [Re: Motokid600]
      #5685826 - 02/17/13 07:46 PM

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Now theres news of more large meteors over Cuba and San Fransisco. Whats going on here? There must be a debris field moving through of somekind.




The Cuba meteor, at this point, appears fake. Supposedly very bright, it should have been seen and recorded from Florida and the Bahamas as well, but there are no sightings and no video.

The California meteor looks a fairly typical bright fireball, about -10. magnitude. Nothing special.

Clear skies!
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Re: Amazing videos of Meteor in Russia! new [Re: Saclablue]
      #5685858 - 02/17/13 08:02 PM

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Like they didn't see this one coming. Even if there was an asteroid or meteor was going to strike the earth. They would never tell us, think of the civil chaos that would ensue. Societal break down and strickened wide panic. And then after the fact, they have the odacity to address the general public looking like idiots, saying they didn't know it was coming and infer the need for more funding in space exploration. Way to go JPL and NASA.




No they did not see this coming. A rock that "small"is almost impossible to detect because it entered on the day side of the planet.
And.. as far as the government not telling us about an extinction sized asteroid heading our way. That's just foolish. Governments not the only establishment with a telescope. Anyone would be able to look up and see a a random star that moved and got brighter each night. You can't keep the entire planet silent.


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Re: Amazing videos of Meteor in Russia! new [Re: Motokid600]
      #5694039 - 02/22/13 05:23 AM

Good comments below these NASA blog posts, that make one think:

http://blogs.nasa.gov/cm/blog/Watch%20the%20Skies/posts/post_1360985685055.html
http://blogs.nasa.gov/cm/blog/Watch%20the%20Skies/posts/post_1361037562855.html
http://blogs.nasa.gov/cm/blog/Watch%20the%20Skies/posts/post_1361308690869.html

I like to question everything ... and I seriously question to what degree NASA might be saving face in coming to such a quick conclusion here. I am skeptical of the prevailing authoritative "answer" that has been disseminated by most major media outlets worldwide.

There were numerous fireball sightings being reported in the hours before and after. Were those not related either? Has NASA mapped the trajectories of all of those meteors as well? To not seriously analyze this further, and explore all of the possibilities in this 'mere coincidence' here is not even rubbish science to me, it is the absence of science.

I am perplexed by just how quick so many have seemed to be in dismissing the possibility that these two hunks of matter may well be linked in some way (perhaps going far, far back in time). Maybe they are not linked ... but to claim to know so quickly? It reeks of arrogance.

This is not to rant about NASA, as I am a big admirer of all they have accomplished and continue to discover as a group of many, many dedicated individuals. I am in awe of so much of it. But, they have had problems over the years with politics and bureaucracy as well, it is no secret. I am not stating here that I think there is some conspiracy or coverup. It just sounds a bit more like ineptitude mixed in with embarrassment than anything else to me right now. I surely don't have the answers. But I just wish that the current authorities that be could exercise a little humility here and there, and acknowledge that perhaps they don't exactly know either.

Most scientists seem to agree that it is important to do one's best to exhaust all possible scenarios ... and I do not feel as though such careful scrutiny has been applied here in this particular case, where a conclusion was doled out almost immediately. If humanity is indeed going to attempt the planning of any truly long-term goals for the betterment and sustainability of lifeforms on Earth, then it seems that an improved analysis of such objects might be in order.


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Re: Amazing videos of Meteor in Russia! new [Re: smallscopefanLeo]
      #5695101 - 02/22/13 04:28 PM

I actually read some where that there was several studies about a new meteor shower about this time of year. Seems like stone meteors that are quite bright appear about the same time. One study dismissed it while another supported it. Seems like maybe there was a asteroid collision out between Mars and Jupiter that is sending new debris along a new orbital path creating a new shower. This is all conjecture but does fit. The paths seem to be over the top of the Earth going North to South in trajectory. It only occurs once a year during this short time.

Like I said it's debated right now. But there has been some increasing meteors during this time. Especially with N-S paths and being very bright.

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Re: Amazing videos of Meteor in Russia! new [Re: smallscopefanLeo]
      #5696020 - 02/23/13 03:41 AM

That is because any meteors from 2012 DA14 would have a *very* specific radiant very close to the south celestial pole (R.A. 149°, Dec -81°!). This means that any meteoroids with orbits that are similar to 2012 DA14 would be approaching the Earth almost exactly from the south. This is a very fortunate circumstance that allows quick distinction between possibly related and certainly unrelated events. There is much talk about the Earth gravitationally capturing, deflecting and redirecting the Russian meteoroid so that it somehow managed to change directions and come from the direction it did. There indeed is some ‘gravitational focusing’ of meteoroids by the Earth. In meteor astronomy its effect is call zenith attraction. As the meteoroid approaches the Earth it is being ‘pulled in’ and its approach angle becomes steeper. This is especially notable with slow meteoroids. In effect this means that a meteoroid can enter the atmosphere at locations where its radiant is below the horizon – it arcs from a trajectory tangential to the Earth into an intercepting trajectory. A well known meteor astronomer did a short calculation of the zenith attraction for any possible meteoroids from 2012 DA14 and the highest latitude where a meteoroid could enter the atmosphere was 55° N (here it would be on a tangential, grazing trajectory). Chelyabinsk is at 55° N. However, at the time of the Russian meteor this point was on the opposite side of the northern hemisphere (due to the 9° approach angle from the south). Also, the Russian meteor’s atmospheric trajectory had an angle of ~15-20° to the surface, while any meteor from 2012 DA14 would have an extremely shallow grazing trajectory. Furthermore, the Russian meteor came in from ENE, while 2012 DA14 meteoroids come in directly from the south. Not related. In any case, orbit calculations take all these effects into account and clearly the two orbits are not related.

Regarding other fireballs at the time. There is a video of a bright evening fireball over Russia (in fact, only about 700 km west of Chelyabinsk!) on Feb 12. But it clearly fell at a very steep angle, so its radiant was most probably in the northern celestial hemisphere. Not related. The Feb 15 Cuba meteor is very dubious with no videos and very few (if any) eyewitness reports. At its supposed magnitude, it should have been seen over a very large area by many people. The Feb 14 Japan fireball (which is not really very large anyway) has a different orbit, although both are Apollo-type orbits with aphelia in the main asteroid belt. The Feb 15 California fireball (which is even smaller) requires a slightly more detailed analysis of the video and eyewitness reports, so not sure about that one.

There is, apparently, at least one confirmed Near-Earth Asteroid and meteorite-dropping fireball association: http://www.spmn.uji.es/ESP/articulo/2002NY40_MNRAS.pdf


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Re: Amazing videos of Meteor in Russia! new [Re: Jure Atanackov]
      #5696807 - 02/23/13 03:17 PM

"Sit down before fact as a little child, be prepared to give up every conceived notion, follow humbly wherever and whatever abysses nature leads, or you will learn nothing."
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Re: Amazing videos of Meteor in Russia! new [Re: smallscopefanLeo]
      #5699899 - 02/25/13 01:59 PM

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2011/08/110810-new-meteor-shower-pers...

http://www.space.com/12450-unknown-comet-earth-threat-meteor-shower-evidence....

Evidence is growing about a new meteor shower. The Russian event could well be tied to this since they typically have a North to South part over the North pole.

In fact there are many, many showers not yet confirmed.

http://www.astro.amu.edu.pl/~jopek/MDC2007/Roje/roje_lista.php?corobic_roje=0...


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Re: Amazing videos of Meteor in Russia! new [Re: WillCarney]
      #5701136 - 02/26/13 08:16 AM

The 'new' meteor shower in February is not related with the Chelyabinsk superbolide. The meteor shower is caused by a long period comet, the Chelyabinsk meteoroid was in a short period orbit with aphelion in the main asteroid belt. Completely different parent bodies and completely different orbits.
CS!Jure


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Re: Amazing videos of Meteor in Russia! new [Re: Jure Atanackov]
      #5701386 - 02/26/13 10:48 AM

There are about 300 to choose from.
http://www.astro.amu.edu.pl/~jopek/MDC2007/Roje/roje_lista.php?corobic_roje=0...

William


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Re: Amazing videos of Meteor in Russia! new [Re: WillCarney]
      #5701518 - 02/26/13 12:01 PM

When we take a step back as mere mortal humans, it does not take us long to realize just how little we really know about the depths of space ... let alone the depths our own oceans, atoms, or even brains. Only recently have we begun to plumb these depths. In the spans of cosmic history, this is an exceedingly small window of time during which we have been gaining insights thus far. It would behoove us all to exercise as much patience as possible in dealing with the natural worlds, and to ever continue to meekly seek out more answers.

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Re: Amazing videos of Meteor in Russia! new [Re: smallscopefanLeo]
      #5703265 - 02/27/13 10:58 AM

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-205_162-57571550/russian-meteors-origin-and-size-...

"But some YouTube-aided detective work suggests that the meteor's parent body belonged to the Apollo family of Earth-crossing asteroids, whose elliptical orbits take them farther than one Earth-sun distance (about 93 million miles) from our star at some point, researchers said."

This one does appear to be an isolated rock at this time.

William


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Re: Amazing videos of Meteor in Russia! new [Re: Brett Carlson]
      #5709378 - 03/02/13 07:01 PM



Excellent video...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MK5VO9HAjs


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Re: Amazing videos of Meteor in Russia! new [Re: StarWars]
      #5709962 - 03/03/13 05:20 AM

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Excellent video...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MK5VO9HAjs



Comments are funny

Quote:

That's a 747 flying towards the sun rise with the sun reflecting of it's belly.



Quote:

Last time i checked, Russia wasn't in the middle of the rainforest, and they didn't speak Spanish




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Re: Amazing videos of Meteor in Russia! new [Re: IVM]
      #5718003 - 03/07/13 09:45 AM

Check BBC 4 Meteor Strike FireBall from Space:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZ9z0HG_BKA


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Re: Amazing videos of Meteor in Russia! new [Re: StarWars]
      #5723815 - 03/10/13 12:22 PM

Quote:



Excellent video...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MK5VO9HAjs





I've just learned that this is a video of some type of Russian aircraft test..

Sorry for the inconvenience...



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