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Kon Dealer
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Re: ISON will survive! *DELETED* new [Re: Tonk]
      #6227052 - 12/01/13 01:16 PM

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Old Dinosaur
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Re: ISON will survive! new [Re: Kon Dealer]
      #6227181 - 12/01/13 02:07 PM

The latest great conspiracy explaining the behavior of comets.

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Joe F Gafford
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Re: ISON will survive! new [Re: Old Dinosaur]
      #6227486 - 12/01/13 04:56 PM

Del Sol had that turkey on Thanksgiving and we are stuck with the leftovers!

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PatHolland
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Re: ISON will survive! *DELETED* new [Re: Kon Dealer]
      #6227570 - 12/01/13 05:40 PM

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MikeBOKC
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Re: ISON will survive! new [Re: PatHolland]
      #6227714 - 12/01/13 06:47 PM

One airhead CNN anchordolly actually asked on the air if the close passage of an asteroid was related to global warming.

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Re: ISON will survive! new [Re: MikeBOKC]
      #6227762 - 12/01/13 07:20 PM

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One airhead CNN anchordolly actually asked on the air if the close passage of an asteroid was related to global warming.




Perhaps what we need to do to counter global warming is to arrange for a decent sized asteroid (~5 km diameter would do nicely) to pass a little too close & cause an "impact winter".


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Rick Woods
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Re: ISON will survive! new [Re: MikeBOKC]
      #6227834 - 12/01/13 07:56 PM

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One airhead CNN anchordolly actually asked on the air if the close passage of an asteroid was related to global warming.




Well, the answer is yes. Everything is related to everything else. You are a child of the universe, no less than the trees and stars; you have a right to exist. Everybody is a part of everything anyway; you can have everything if you let yourself be. Roll another one, just like the other one.

Ommmm.


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Rich (RLTYS)Moderator
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Re: ISON will survive! new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #6228451 - 12/02/13 06:29 AM

Folks, please stay on subject or this thread will be locked.

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ohioalfa64
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Re: ISON will survive! new [Re: Rich (RLTYS)]
      #6229020 - 12/02/13 12:25 PM

When is ISON scheduled to reappear to us North of 40 deg observers?

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brianb11213
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Re: ISON will survive! new [Re: ohioalfa64]
      #6229098 - 12/02/13 01:10 PM

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When is ISON scheduled to reappear to us North of 40 deg observers?



It's dead, Jim.

And it won't.

Spaceweather is giving the integrated magnitude as around mag. 8 today (Dec 2) & as this is spread out over a considerable area of sky it would be very hard to detect even in a pitch black sky. The debris cloud will only disperse & fade even more as it moves away from the sun.


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Tonk
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Re: ISON will survive! new [Re: ohioalfa64]
      #6229099 - 12/02/13 01:11 PM

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When is ISON scheduled to reappear to us North of 40 deg observers?




Today its a 8th magnitude dust cloud and dimming further day by day as the dust cloud expands. So no - its not going to reappear now.


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Old Dinosaur
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Re: ISON will survive! new [Re: ohioalfa64]
      #6229101 - 12/02/13 01:11 PM

It ain't. What's left may be able to be captured photographically, that's about it.

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Wisers
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Re: ISON will survive! new [Re: Tonk]
      #6230477 - 12/02/13 10:40 PM

I wonder what it would have been like to ride that sucker through? I would have had to hide on the back side.
Rick


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Relativist
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Re: ISON will survive! new [Re: Wisers]
      #6231379 - 12/03/13 12:53 PM

I wonder if it will be within reach of video?

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Tonk
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Re: ISON will survive! new [Re: Relativist]
      #6231413 - 12/03/13 01:12 PM

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I wonder if it will be within reach of video?




A good model for this was comet Elenin a couple of years back. It disintegrated on the way in but the dust cloud could be followed for about 3 weeks after this. To do it photgraphers needed fast widefield optics (180mm F/2.8) and long (8 to 15 minutes) exposures sited on the top of a volcano in Japan or Hawaii (Hiro here on CN did this)

See http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=DSLR&N...

And here is more of what to expect

http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=DSLR&N...

The Russians really have been out of luck comet wise - both Elenin and ISON disintegrated after both where heavily touted as likely spectaculars


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hiro
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Re: ISON will survive! new [Re: Tonk]
      #6233737 - 12/04/13 04:59 PM

Thanks Tonk for the introduction of my works on the comet C/2010 X1 Elenin in October - November 2010. I failed at the first several trials, but I could enjoy the object much.

I have enjoyed C/2012 S1 ISON as you know. We hoped the comet a little too much. We knew that the light curve was lower than expected in January and that the comet was within Bortle's limit. It was nice that those curves or limits are worth consideration. I respect researchers of astronomy of the field.

It was really a nice comet, but we have not seen the end mark yet.

Those in this forum may be candidates of observer of such ridiculous objects. I will enjoy imaging of the remnant of C/2012 S1 several times, maybe on Sunday mornings. It may be challenging, but it must be worth the effort. Something must be drifting on or around the orbit, and we may be able to be rare witness. I hope to watch the shape on a frame.


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krp
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Re: ISON will survive! new [Re: hiro]
      #6234351 - 12/04/13 10:15 PM

Quote:

Thanks Tonk for the introduction of my works on the comet C/2010 X1 Elenin in October - November 2010. I failed at the first several trials, but I could enjoy the object much.

I have enjoyed C/2012 S1 ISON as you know. We hoped the comet a little too much. We knew that the light curve was lower than expected in January and that the comet was within Bortle's limit. It was nice that those curves or limits are worth consideration. I respect researchers of astronomy of the field.

It was really a nice comet, but we have not seen the end mark yet.

Those in this forum may be candidates of observer of such ridiculous objects. I will enjoy imaging of the remnant of C/2012 S1 several times, maybe on Sunday mornings. It may be challenging, but it must be worth the effort. Something must be drifting on or around the orbit, and we may be able to be rare witness. I hope to watch the shape on a frame.



I look forward to seeing what you capture.


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hiro
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Reged: 07/17/07

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Re: ISON will survive! new [Re: krp]
      #6234442 - 12/04/13 11:33 PM

Thanks Kevin,

I hope that I can watch something, but I will present results here, even if the results were negative for the remnant.


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kywildcats
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Reged: 01/22/11

Loc: Owensboro, KY
Re: ISON will survive! new [Re: hiro]
      #6234500 - 12/05/13 12:14 AM

Since ISON is no more....I wonder if the Science Channel is still planning on showing the program about ISON. Everyone will be running outside to look for it and will be very disappointed.

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Rich (RLTYS)Moderator
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Re: ISON will survive! new [Re: kywildcats]
      #6234708 - 12/05/13 06:16 AM

It's still being advertised.

Rich (RLTYS)


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