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OldDeadOne
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Comet disappointment
      #6222038 - 11/28/13 05:42 PM

I was clearly hoping that ISON was going to dazzle my eyes and be a comet that would wow my socks off,as it looks like it got fried like so many turkeys did today. So I am hoping that one day in the remainder of my life I will see a great comet streaking across the day and night skies like I did in 1986 when Halley's came and wowed me.

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MessiToM
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Re: Comet disappointment new [Re: OldDeadOne]
      #6222041 - 11/28/13 05:43 PM

I was hoping this would be my first "great comet". So far Ive only seen PANNSTARS.....

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Glen A W
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Re: Comet disappointment new [Re: MessiToM]
      #6222052 - 11/28/13 05:46 PM

Don't give up yet. It is not done.

The comet did give a great show this past month for those who would look to see it.


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Re: Comet disappointment new [Re: Glen A W]
      #6222302 - 11/28/13 08:38 PM

Quote:

Don't give up yet. It is not done.

The comet did give a great show this past month for those who would look to see it.




Also Lovejoy is pretty nice in the morning hours.


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djeber2
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Re: Comet disappointment new [Re: MessiToM]
      #6222316 - 11/28/13 08:42 PM

Quote:

I was hoping this would be my first "great comet". So far Ive only seen PANNSTARS.....




Panstarrs was a nice one and also Lovejoy is an easy binoc target even in the suburbs


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Re: Comet disappointment new [Re: djeber2]
      #6222326 - 11/28/13 08:49 PM

Well I should have stated I was hoping for a good naked eye comet and so far Ive only naked eyed Panstarrs. Ive seen othe ones through scopes including ISON

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Glen A W
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Re: Comet disappointment new [Re: LivingNDixie]
      #6222393 - 11/28/13 09:35 PM

I agree. After all this, I still have Lovejoy to look forward to after the clouds clear and the Moon gets out of the morning sky. It was pretty decent three weeks ago, and I hear it's much better now.

I also think some folks are a bit greedy on the great comet idea. The "great comets" of "olde" were seen by people who were not exposed to computer-effects movies and video games all the time. Even really great comets perhaps don't look like people tend to imagine. I've seen a couple and I certainly loved them, but most people I know who were in the general public weren't real impressed, if they managed to find them at all.

Edited by Glen A W (11/28/13 09:35 PM)


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Re: Comet disappointment new [Re: Glen A W]
      #6222769 - 11/29/13 03:18 AM

The "great comets" of "olde" were seen by people who were not exposed to computer-effects movies and video games all the time.

They also had a bit darker skies than we can even hope for.


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cdh79
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Re: Comet disappointment new [Re: mattz]
      #6222813 - 11/29/13 04:43 AM

I liked Hale Bopp.. i even saw it from NYC's Time square with the naked eye, and i will never forget the view of it next to an Aurora when flying over Greenland (from Europe to the US)..
Hyakutake was great as well in my opinion..

so there are plenty of great comets that can be seen with the naked eye..

i agree that there are less dark sites nowadays and i also think people are a bit "dulled off" due to the amount of incredible images, which obviously don't really reflect the experience of naked-eye observation


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Re: Comet disappointment new [Re: cdh79]
      #6223561 - 11/29/13 02:42 PM

Keep watching ISON as it might surprise us.

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Re: Comet disappointment new [Re: star drop]
      #6223630 - 11/29/13 03:28 PM

Quote:

so there are plenty of great comets that can be seen with the naked eye..




The average time span between "great" comets is over ten years so I can't agree.

http://www.icq.eps.harvard.edu/brightest.html

Factor in the fact that most of the world's population now lives under heavily light-polluted skies and great comets sometimes require being up before sunrise to be seen, hyping comets, for whatever reason, is a foolhardy and counterproductive exercise, in my opinion. I've done a lot of public outreach over the years and have found that things that excite amateur astronomers can often be less than impressive to the general public.

Dave Mitsky


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boandpokey
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Re: Comet disappointment new [Re: Dave Mitsky]
      #6223947 - 11/29/13 06:15 PM

hale bopp was incomparable.. period...

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Re: Comet disappointment new [Re: Dave Mitsky]
      #6224788 - 11/30/13 09:13 AM

Quote:

I've done a lot of public outreach over the years and have found that things that excite amateur astronomers can often be less than impressive to the general public.

Dave Mitsky




I tend to agree. I don't really do outreach but the people who have looked through my scope have been impressed by the moon, Saturn, Orion nebula, maybe Jupiter and that's about it.

Under a dark sky the general public would have been awed by Hyakutake but few, if any, saw it under a true dark sky.


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Re: Comet disappointment *DELETED* new [Re: Alvan Clark]
      #6227055 - 12/01/13 01:17 PM

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djeber2
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Re: Comet disappointment new [Re: Kon Dealer]
      #6227471 - 12/01/13 04:49 PM

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Re: Comet disappointment new [Re: djeber2]
      #6227566 - 12/01/13 05:39 PM

Dang it! You caught me Kon. Since I'm one of those deniers, I'll confess, I'm guilty of destroying ISON.

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Re: Comet disappointment new [Re: Alvan Clark]
      #6234640 - 12/05/13 03:41 AM

Quote:

Quote:

I've done a lot of public outreach over the years and have found that things that excite amateur astronomers can often be less than impressive to the general public.

Dave Mitsky




I tend to agree. I don't really do outreach but the people who have looked through my scope have been impressed by the moon, Saturn, Orion nebula, maybe Jupiter and that's about it.

Under a dark sky the general public would have been awed by Hyakutake but few, if any, saw it under a true dark sky.




Yea, ISON has been a dissapointment, sad to say.
I think you just have to be lucky sometimes.
My first great looking comet was Hyakutake in March 1996. Just on the spur of the moment, I just took the time to travel to the nearest good area away from the city and there it was near UMi. It was freezing cold, but I could hardly believe how spectacular it was! I stayed and enjoyed it as long as I could. Too bad it didn't say around longer.
I thought Hale Bopp too was just as spectacular in the spring of 1997 low in the evening sky.

Edited by Philler (12/05/13 03:52 AM)


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Re: Comet disappointment new [Re: Philler]
      #6236564 - 12/06/13 03:10 AM

OK - any astronomer tried for ISON since perihelion - tried this morning via binos but no luck @ est mag 5 (HeavensAbove) low in SE before dawn :-)

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SteveRosenow
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Re: Comet disappointment new [Re: nytecam]
      #6236633 - 12/06/13 04:43 AM

Quote:

OK - any astronomer tried for ISON since perihelion - tried this morning via binos but no luck @ est mag 5 (HeavensAbove) low in SE before dawn :-)




There's some photos showing up on comets-ml of it.


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Glen A W
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Re: Comet disappointment new [Re: SteveRosenow]
      #6240794 - 12/08/13 01:11 PM

No disappointment for me. I haven't had so much comet fun in 15 years.

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djeber2
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Re: Comet disappointment new [Re: Glen A W]
      #6254882 - 12/15/13 05:29 PM

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No disappointment for me. I haven't had so much comet fun in 15 years.




Same here. Nov was a great month for viewing comets, as was March/April with PANSTARRS.


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