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Den Mama
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Re: It Never Hurts to try!! new [Re: obin robinson]
      #5714792 - 03/05/13 04:16 PM

to your neighbor for turning the light off! Glad they were so cooperative!

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jtrevino
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Re: It Never Hurts to try!! new [Re: REC]
      #5715595 - 03/05/13 11:18 PM

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Well I'm in the asking mode now and actually getting some interest from the City to help out. I had asked for some shielding as the lights in front of my house really light up my rooms. Had someone come out from the city to discuss and I also showed him some pictures taken at night to show him how bright they really were. He agreed and told me that the type of lights we have on the street did not have basic shields available, but he had some other ideas about blocking some of the light from another project and the might fit these lamps.

Ok, so he installed one to test out. It does block some of the light and throws a a narrow shadow. Looks like it could reduce some of the stray light, but has to be positioned just right. He is looking into a wider shield to see if he could improve on this solution.

I can't believe hoe helpful and sincere this guy is!! What an attitude from City worker, this guy is amazing and also timely. Here's a pic of the shield if you can make it out. Stay tuned for more on this project, hope it helps some and your right, never hurts to ask!

Bob




Just keep asking... as long as the city is working with you you are making progress.

Is the light on your property? It looks like it is in your yard.


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turk123
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Re: It Never Hurts to try!! new [Re: REC]
      #5716629 - 03/06/13 03:13 PM

I live in Ohio and we have Ohio edison as our power company. They also take care of the streetlights. I live on a side street and , of course, the only street light on our street is out front of my house.

I went on the internet and did a search on "street lights ohio edison". I found an area that you could report a streetlight problem. The default is "light out". I choose "other" and told them that the light is an older cobra style and that it shines into out bedroom window. I also told them I was an amateur astronomer and that the light interfered with my ability to take pictures of the night sky. I filled out the pole number and address and contact info. To my surprise i received an email that they would be taking care of the problem within 3 days. I figured it was a form letter. The same afternoon my wife called and said an Ohio edison truck is out front. I told her to go talk to the guy. She did! She called later to tell me that the driver did not understand the work order and after she explained it to him, he said he would be back tomorrow with a shield. Could this really be happening? Film at eleven (or maybe tomorrow.) Kinda follows the theme " It never hurts to try"


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jtrevino
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Re: It Never Hurts to try!! new [Re: turk123]
      #5716643 - 03/06/13 03:22 PM

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I live in Ohio and we have Ohio edison as our power company. They also take care of the streetlights. I live on a side street and , of course, the only street light on our street is out front of my house.

I went on the internet and did a search on "street lights ohio edison". I found an area that you could report a streetlight problem. The default is "light out". I choose "other" and told them that the light is an older cobra style and that it shines into out bedroom window. I also told them I was an amateur astronomer and that the light interfered with my ability to take pictures of the night sky. I filled out the pole number and address and contact info. To my surprise i received an email that they would be taking care of the problem within 3 days. I figured it was a form letter. The same afternoon my wife called and said an Ohio edison truck is out front. I told her to go talk to the guy. She did! She called later to tell me that the driver did not understand the work order and after she explained it to him, he said he would be back tomorrow with a shield. Could this really be happening? Film at eleven (or maybe tomorrow.) Kinda follows the theme " It never hurts to try"




AWESOME!! 1 light at a time if we have too!!


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GeneT
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Re: It Never Hurts to try!! new [Re: jtrevino]
      #5717513 - 03/06/13 11:23 PM

Great work!

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turk123
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Re: It Never Hurts to try!! new [Re: turk123]
      #5718736 - 03/07/13 04:12 PM

Well, the truck didn't show up today. I'm off to florida on Sunday. If it is not in by then I will call when I get back. I'm hoping they did not have a shield in stock. Probably never had one in stock! I have not by any means given up.

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Re: It Never Hurts to try!! new [Re: turk123]
      #5718809 - 03/07/13 04:54 PM

Good for you! Take some before and after when you get a chance.

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turk123
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Re: It Never Hurts to try!! new [Re: REC]
      #5719341 - 03/07/13 08:55 PM Attachment (29 downloads)

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Good for you! Take some before and after when you get a chance.




Yep, Here is the before:


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Re: It Never Hurts to try!! new [Re: turk123]
      #5735907 - 03/16/13 10:31 AM

Wheres the after?

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Re: It Never Hurts to try!! new [Re: REC]
      #5736852 - 03/16/13 06:32 PM

Wow! That thing's shining in every window.
Good on you for talking to them.


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turk123
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Re: It Never Hurts to try!! new [Re: REC]
      #5750568 - 03/22/13 08:39 PM

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Wheres the after?




Well, after talking to the service truck driver, he said he would be back with a shield. It has been two weeks and he has not shown.

I just emailed First Energy just now and also sent them the picture.

Cross your fingers!

(twenty two light disabler leaning against the wall)

turk


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turk123
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Re: It Never Hurts to try!! new [Re: turk123]
      #5751519 - 03/23/13 10:41 AM

Got a new email back from First Energy. They say they are coming out within 3 days. They gave me a new work order number so here's hoping.

Turk


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Re: It Never Hurts to try!! new [Re: turk123]
      #5751785 - 03/23/13 12:29 PM

Here's hoping that someone knows what to do this time.

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turk123
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Re: It Never Hurts to try!! new [Re: richard7]
      #5753478 - 03/24/13 09:43 AM

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Here's hoping that someone knows what to do this time.




I guess it is too much to ask for what you want. I heard a noise out front at about 9:30 pm last night. It was the service truck! He hopped out of the truck, looked at the pole number, hopped back in, and left.

What? Did that just happen again? I sent off another email to first energy and ask that a supervisor get involved. I asked them if it is regular policy to send trucks out on calls with no orders, no paperwork, and just assuming a light is out.

They responded with a supervisors name and said she would call me on Monday. The story continues.

Turk


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turk123
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Re: It Never Hurts to try!! new [Re: turk123]
      #5759316 - 03/26/13 10:30 PM

Well, the supervisor called me and said the truck driver said the streetlight is the same as the other one on the street. I ask her when it was up to the truck driver to determine the light pollution policy of your company. She was a bit belligerent but finally agreed to talk to the service department about a shield. I don't have much hope. I even offered to pay for the shield. She said she didn't have a procedure for that.

They really don't care.


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orion61

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Re: It Never Hurts to try!! new [Re: turk123]
      #5762202 - 03/28/13 11:11 AM

I used to have a next door neighbor who had a sewing room facing my back yard, she was older and the lights were so bright to help her see we used to call them her Landing Lights.. I asked them to put on a shade to pull but they said they liked to look out the window and didn't want to bother.
They said they would turn off the lights if I asked..
They did.. for about an hour .. She also played an Organ
in the same room.. same lights..
Nothing like observing in glare, to Lawrence Welk..
Father time finally resolved my issue.


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turk123
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Re: It Never Hurts to try!! new [Re: orion61]
      #5762617 - 03/28/13 03:45 PM

I just got a call from a regional manager from First Energy. We talked a bit and I found out I worked with him before on a land project. He said they do not have any shields at all. He did offer to move it though. Here's the catch; I have to get permission from city council for the new location.

I called our mayor and he listened to my plea. He thinks it is a reasonable request and will visit my site tonight to see what it looks like. He said I should talk to my neighbors to see if the move would be OK with them, and also suggested, I ask them if they would object to removing it altogether. That sounds encouraging! Anyone have any statistics that say "Lit streets are a bigger target for crime"? I'm hoping this all works out. Guess it is up to my neighbors!

Turk


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Re: It Never Hurts to try!! new [Re: turk123]
      #5762839 - 03/28/13 06:01 PM

Oh yes...
How many bureaucrats does it take to change a light bulb????


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turk123
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Re: It Never Hurts to try!! new [Re: richard7]
      #5763106 - 03/28/13 08:16 PM

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Oh yes...
How many bureaucrats does it take to change a light bulb????




That is funny! I can use that if I have to go to city council for final approval!


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Den Mama
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Re: It Never Hurts to try!! new [Re: turk123]
      #5763116 - 03/28/13 08:21 PM

Frankly, they really don't need a specific shield. When I had a yardlight, the power company simply spray-painted it, to lower the glare. Would be much less expensive than the cost of moving it; and one neighbor objecting, will bring the move to a halt.

Perhaps suggest the painting to them.


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