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Busguy
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My Research led to Teeter's Telescopes
      #5373184 - 08/17/12 01:19 PM

36 years ago, I sold my Criterion RV-6 for entrance fees for college. I kept my passion in astronomy and the night skies all that time and swore that before my eyes were shot I'd get another scope. I continued researching over all those years and here's what I finally purchased: 20" f/3.6 Teeter Dob. I wanted to go purely visual, (though MallinCam has peaked an interest). I wanted to keep my feet off a ladder also. Here's what I determined... and tell me if I'm off kilter:

Rob Teeter has a unique cost break compared to Starmaster, Obsession, even Webster at this aperture and speed. That intrigued me. I dressed this bad boy up too...Servo Cat with Argo Navis, dew heater on secondary, Glatter sling, SIPS with Paracorr II, AstroCrumb 2" filter slide with dew heater, you name it.

For the primary, I decided to go with Waite Research. Gordon had a 20" thin quartz blank that was ready for polishing. Thin quartz... quick cooling... ready for polishing... decent reputation from what I could find with those that owned a primary from Gordon...

I have in place the following eyepieces:
Delos 6mm
Delos 10mm
Delos 17.3mm
Nagler 31mm

Additionally, I procured a Powermate 2.5x

I'm in the middle of the production cycle.

I wanted to thank all of you for your education over the years as well. Some real brains on these forums. I've learned a lot from collimation, possible focus issues with SIPS and Delos 17.3, etc. etc. When I had a question, I could talk with anyone: Al Nagler, Rob Teeter, Howie Glatter, Jim Fly, Jon Joseph, Gary Meyers, Gordon Waite. I've never seen an industry or group of people so available to assist.


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Re: My Research led to Teeter's Telescopes new [Re: Busguy]
      #5373283 - 08/17/12 02:26 PM

Congratulations!

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csrlice12
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Re: My Research led to Teeter's Telescopes new [Re: Busguy]
      #5373353 - 08/17/12 03:03 PM

"When I had a question, I could talk with anyone: Al Nagler, Rob Teeter, Howie Glatter, Jim Fly, Jon Joseph, Gary Meyers, Gordon Waite. I've never seen an industry or group of people so available to assist."

THAT's what's great about this hobby, the big names are just normal everyday people (well as normal as amateur astronomers can be) who are willing to talk to you. I don't see any bank Presidents lending their ear to their depositors (unless you're a rich depositor), or the CEO of a Car company willing to discuss their products with you. Hopefully, it will stay that way.


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knightware
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Re: My Research led to Teeter's Telescopes new [Re: Busguy]
      #5373368 - 08/17/12 03:15 PM

Busguy,

My research also led me to many of the same vendors as you, including Teeter's Telescopes. I have gotten answers to questions and am confident that my kit is as good as I can get. Although my Waite Research mirror is smaller (14.5" f/4.5) and not quartz, I am extremely pleased with its performance. The scope is solidly built and performs beautifully despite some early balance and stiction issues that I have fixed. Rob builds a heck of a telescope.

I hope your scope serves you well!


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Re: My Research led to Teeter's Telescopes new [Re: knightware]
      #5373456 - 08/17/12 04:13 PM

Just a question; Did Teeter get that gov't small business grant he put in for? Hope so, this country can use more quality telescope shops. I'd pay extra for quality eyepieces stamped "Made in USA" on them...at least it wouldn't take 3+ (and waiting) months and still no eyepieces...

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mountain monk
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Re: My Research led to Teeter's Telescopes new [Re: csrlice12]
      #5373530 - 08/17/12 04:58 PM

I too have a Teeter with a Waite mirror on the way. I too have been very impressed with Rob and several of the other people you mention. Great products, great customer service, and another reason to support small American companies.

Dark skies.

Jack


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jeff heck
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Re: My Research led to Teeter's Telescopes new [Re: csrlice12]
      #5373560 - 08/17/12 05:21 PM

Quote:

Just a question; Did Teeter get that gov't small business grant he put in for? Hope so, this country can use more quality telescope shops. I'd pay extra for quality eyepieces stamped "Made in USA" on them...at least it wouldn't take 3+ (and waiting) months and still no eyepieces...



I talked to Rob this week and no news yet on the loan.
Busguy, congrats on the upcoming 20", you will be very impressed with the quality throughout. Teeter scopes are on the top tier of custom telescope builders. My 16" has a Waite Research mirror and it cools and performs excellently.


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Starman1
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Re: My Research led to Teeter's Telescopes new [Re: mountain monk]
      #5373562 - 08/17/12 05:22 PM

Rob has:
--quality construction
--willingness to customize to suit a client
--access to a lot of high-end components
--reasonable delivery times (depending on mirror maker).
--a superb reputation for honesty and customer relations.

All of those are reasons I went with him for a "high-end" scope.
I'm very happy with the scope.


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Re: My Research led to Teeter's Telescopes new [Re: Starman1]
      #5373635 - 08/17/12 06:16 PM

I have owned two Teeter Dobs in the past and they were very good scopes.

Chas


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Re: My Research led to Teeter's Telescopes new [Re: CHASLX200]
      #5373836 - 08/17/12 09:15 PM

Rob's customer service is fantastic, the craftsmanship is top-notch and his scopes are as beautiful as they are functional. I've been very happy with mine.

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Busguy
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Re: My Research led to Teeter's Telescopes new [Re: Sinistar]
      #5374090 - 08/18/12 12:43 AM

Thanks, all. I'm confident from the feedback that Rob will fashion an outstanding instrument.

I hope Rob wins the grant also. Wasn't it a 'grant' rather than a loan?

Joe


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Re: My Research led to Teeter's Telescopes new [Re: Busguy]
      #5374218 - 08/18/12 06:08 AM

Very beautiful instruments! If I ever sell my 18" my next Dob will be a Teeter!

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Re: My Research led to Teeter's Telescopes new [Re: Shawn H]
      #5374406 - 08/18/12 09:47 AM

Teeter #73 here. I heartily concur with all of the above. I will especially mention the orthagonality of the structure. I have added the Servo Cat to mine and it points to stuff flawlessly all over the sky. Last night I slewed from M22 in Sagittarius to M82 in Ursa Major and the latter object was only 1/4 field from center. All other slews, big and small, for five hours or more were equally accurate. While some credit must go to the Servo Cat and Sky Commander for their quality, they wouldn't work nearly as well if the scope structure was not perfectly square and rigid. This is something Rob Teeter builds into all his scopes.

Welcome to the club.

Dave


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Busguy
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Re: My Research led to Teeter's Telescopes new [Re: Cotts]
      #5374545 - 08/18/12 11:42 AM

Dave,

I have digested the Servo Cat and Argo Navis information as best I could from reading, re-reading...skimming the manuals before sleep. Though seemingly straight forward, are you aware of an online emulator or tutorial that can expound on the menu's or see them in action?

Thank you,
Joe


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M Hanner
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Re: My Research led to Teeter's Telescopes new [Re: Busguy]
      #5374560 - 08/18/12 11:53 AM

If any of you guys want to upgrade to a new Teeter 24" with all the bells & whistles, I've got one for sale in the classifieds I have to sell because of my job situation. Mark

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Busguy
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Re: My Research led to Teeter's Telescopes new [Re: knightware]
      #5374572 - 08/18/12 12:00 PM

Thank you, Phyllis. I note that Deep Sky Planner may be just the thing to tie together my re-familiarization with targets of interest. I have a lot of fun work ahead.

Joe


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Re: My Research led to Teeter's Telescopes new [Re: Busguy]
      #5374581 - 08/18/12 12:04 PM

I may buy a third Teeter Dob. There is a guy local to me that has a 16" F/6 Teeter i am tempted to buy.

Chas


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Re: My Research led to Teeter's Telescopes new [Re: CHASLX200]
      #5374798 - 08/18/12 02:33 PM

Wow. To think we are already at a time when people "only" get a 20" - because they want to keep their feet on the ground!

Congrats on a wise choice for a lifetime scope.


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Busguy
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Re: My Research led to Teeter's Telescopes new [Re: johnnyha]
      #5374852 - 08/18/12 03:13 PM

<<Wow. To think we are already at a time when people "only" get a 20" - because they want to keep their feet on the ground!>>

LOL... Well, one of the many variables but certainly not the most important. Call it icing on the cake... Big aperture, shorter footprint, truss ring, boundary layer fans, quartz primary available, cost, SIPS integration technique, mirror cell frame, Rob's reputation and quality, scope appearance... well, that sums up some of the other things I was thinking about. I might have been influenced by the Yankee cap on his head in one of his shots

Thanks,

Joe

Joe


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jeff heck
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Re: My Research led to Teeter's Telescopes new [Re: Busguy]
      #5374956 - 08/18/12 04:54 PM

Quote:

Thanks, all. I'm confident from the feedback that Rob will fashion an outstanding instrument.

I hope Rob wins the grant also. Wasn't it a 'grant' rather than a loan?

Joe



Yes, grant it is. My bad.


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jrbarnett
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Re: My Research led to Teeter's Telescopes new [Re: jeff heck]
      #5380286 - 08/22/12 12:26 AM

Teeterage:





- Jim


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RobTeeter
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Re: My Research led to Teeter's Telescopes new [Re: jrbarnett]
      #5380621 - 08/22/12 08:07 AM Attachment (25 downloads)

Great thread! I just wanted to check in and let everyone know that, unfortunately, we were not one of the recipients of the grant. The winners were announced yesterday on www.MissionSmallBusiness.com along with the amazing stat that nearly 70,000 businesses applied. I knew our chances were slim at best, but I didn't realize they were THAT slim. Everyone here on our team, including my wife and my part time help appreciate that everyone voted for us and showed us such great support and desire to see us grow the business. For now we'll have to put many of the ideas back on the shelf that we were going to finally explore had we won the grant, but we didn't come out of this endeavor completely empty-handed. Through a twist of fate we were able to move our operations from two workshops which we were spread across to one, much larger, commercial space. More details to follow in the Vendors forum...

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csrlice12
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Re: My Research led to Teeter's Telescopes new [Re: RobTeeter]
      #5380734 - 08/22/12 09:41 AM

Sorry about the Grant, but you still have all our support!

To the OP: Lucky You!! The research you did obviously paid off. Teeter is one of the best custom made scope makers in the business.


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Re: My Research led to Teeter's Telescopes new [Re: RobTeeter]
      #5380890 - 08/22/12 11:10 AM

Hi, Rob,

Sorry you didn't get the grant, but I am sure you will continue to pioneer. Your reputation for top quality is remarkable.

Have you thought of putting the wheels in a different place?

Did you happen to notice ee the threads Dissent on Dob wheels, and Dissent on Dob wheels revisited?

Since you do custom work, this might give you one more option to try.

Bill Meyers


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Re: My Research led to Teeter's Telescopes new [Re: RobTeeter]
      #5381252 - 08/22/12 03:04 PM

A'ight fellas, you heard the man. No grant, so let's move to Plan B...START ORDERING TELESCOPES!



- Jim


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Re: My Research led to Teeter's Telescopes new [Re: Busguy]
      #5381567 - 08/22/12 06:40 PM

I've never seen a complaint on Cloudy Nights about a Teeter telescope.

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Re: My Research led to Teeter's Telescopes new [Re: GeneT]
      #5381610 - 08/22/12 07:18 PM

Jim, I like that battery holder you have on the rockerbox. Is that custom or can anyone order one?

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Starman1
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Re: My Research led to Teeter's Telescopes new [Re: jeff heck]
      #5381715 - 08/22/12 08:28 PM Attachment (27 downloads)

Quote:

Jim, I like that battery holder you have on the rockerbox. Is that custom or can anyone order one?



Scopestuff.com has them.
I also made my own from plexiglass bent around.


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Re: My Research led to Teeter's Telescopes new [Re: GeneT]
      #5382564 - 08/23/12 11:16 AM

Quote:

I've never seen a complaint on Cloudy Nights about a Teeter telescope.




I don't have one (that's a complaint). Wish I did.


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Re: My Research led to Teeter's Telescopes new [Re: Busguy]
      #5529296 - 11/20/12 01:51 AM

Quote:



I'm in the middle of the production cycle.





#@$^ My tongue is bleeding! I wanted to be in your shoes! I bit my tongue instead of swearing at your commitment. LOL. Congratulations Joe the “Busguy” on your new purchase! I wish I had your “crib notes” from all of your research. I am going through this process now. I have a target date of the purchase, but hate the wait list that I will be on. The Mrs and I have a purchase to experience prior to the scope so I cannot participate on Rob’s “good faith deposit” program.

I also wanted the low focal (fast) and keep my feet on the ground. Worries of others falling off of a ladder during star parties or at outreach programs really frighten me (even after insuring the bugger)! So that narrows the search down some. I convinced my wife of the “need” to go out to Tucson for the 1st Annual ASAE (Arizona Science and Astronomy Exposition) to meet with Rob Teeter and answer some of my questions.

It was amazing how down to earth Rob and Heather were (are). I was practically willing to write out the check for his scope as other people would come up to his booth and I kept offering Rob to “go get them” as I was almost a sell-out and he should not pass up a chance to have a deal. I tried to be patient as so many others viewed his 18” scope he had present… but WOW what craftsmanship! I thought that I had all of my questions answered there.

The Mrs and I also were reluctant to get an invite (and a ride out there- Thanks Dennis) to the Tucson Amateur Astronomy Associations dark site at TIMPA. And while out there…one of the members brought out his 18” Teeter (Jim O’Connor) and I was honored to view through a Teeter production! So again, I have seen, I have gawked, and I have drooled over the products which so many before have become satisfied with.

Joe I hope that you will keep us all abreast of the progress of your new companion?! Congratulations again,
Frank


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Busguy
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Re: My Research led to Teeter's Telescopes new [Re: fnowat]
      #5530269 - 11/20/12 02:11 PM

Hi Frank,
It's interesting, yet not unexpected, how time changes perspective on all things. I made a financial commitment to purchase this scope based on several factors which included the ability to pay off the deposit going forward and having the ability to quickly pay off the remainder afterwards. Well, I don't have to tell you or anyone that life happens, things break, outlays are made and the next thing you know, you're still attacking the bill that won't die. I'm fortunate I'm employed in such a manner I can even contemplate such a bucket list purchase. We're in good stead, and yet I'm not chomping at the bit to pay the second portion having just paid off the first.

Which brings me to my second point, I have a love-hate relationship with the Scope log on Rob's site because I see my completion date is September 2012. It makes me laugh and want to ask: "When does the September scope get completed?" I really look at it to see where I am in the queue. Yet, I'm fully aware how hard Sandy hit Gordon and Rob as well as the surrounding area. So, it's no big deal for me. I'll sock more money away to have the second payment done and wait patiently. It's just too easy to understand things going on there in Jersey exceed my desire to see my scope's completion date.

Rob made me a tempting offer to put some of the shipping costs to better use by meeting him for a scope tutorial. I intend on getting together with him in some fashion for that purpose. Details yet to be sorted.

If you're interested in my crib notes... The biggest decision that I literally spent years on was what type of scope did I want and did I ever want to get into imaging or even leave that option open. Once I decided I'm a dedicated visual guy, then it became easier. The best bang for the buck traditionally was always reflectors. I didn't think I'd go the truss dobsonian route and was convinced I was going to go with Celestron 14" Edge. But I kept doing a comparison to the light gathering capability of a larger dobsonian to all the light folded in that Cassegrain. I was a reflector guy before, to there I return.

Then it basically came down to Obsession, Starmaster, and Teeter. If you look at the options you desire, shipping, and pricing at the aperture you want... something interesting happened. I was convinced my sweet spot aperture was 18". I could look at the different focal ratios of the scopes Dave, Rick, and Rob were pricing and then I noticed something unique to Rob's 20" faster scope. It priced much lower than Obsession and Starmaster. I had to do the calculations twice and fire off an email to Rob to confirm I had the correct assumptions. It became the deciding factor after familiarizing myself with his build quality.

Ask away if you want to know anything else.

Best and good luck with your decision as well.

Joe

Edited by Busguy (11/20/12 11:22 PM)


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Starman1
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Re: My Research led to Teeter's Telescopes new [Re: Busguy]
      #5530741 - 11/20/12 06:11 PM

Bill, as a fellow curmudgeon:
Don't forget their, there, and they're
or
me, myself, I
or
Tweek (an audio product), tweak (adjusting, fine-tuning)
or
my favorite: "All that glitters is not gold" Chances are likely if you can't see what's wrong with that sentence, it won't pay to discuss it.

Last, don't forget a lot of CNers are NOT native speakers of English. I laugh, because many of them make fewer errors writing in English than we do.
When all else fails, as my mother used to say, "Chechez la dictionnaire!"

Enough digression:
to anyone contemplating a Teeter's telescope: you won't be disappointed. Mine is a constant joy to use.


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Re: My Research led to Teeter's Telescopes new [Re: Busguy]
      #5530772 - 11/20/12 06:31 PM

Joe

PM sent.

About Teeter's scopes, look at the truss ring.


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