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TFiebig
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You ever go to the Refractor forum by mistake?
      #5547661 - 11/30/12 06:44 PM



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Gastrol
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Re: You ever go to the Refractor forum by mistake? new [Re: TFiebig]
      #5547674 - 11/30/12 06:50 PM

All the time. The words look similar and one's directly on top of the other.

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FirstSight
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Re: You ever go to the Refractor forum by mistake? new [Re: Gastrol]
      #5547691 - 11/30/12 07:00 PM

We go there not by mistake, but quite deliberately for discussions on how best to chose and use our casual grab n'go toys for the nights when it's not worthwhile bringing out our "serious" big-aperture reflectors.
*sniff*


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auriga
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Re: You ever go to the Refractor forum by mistake? new [Re: TFiebig]
      #5547705 - 11/30/12 07:06 PM

There are always far more people logged in to the refractor forum. They seem to start with small refractors and gradually increase the size until they end up with three or four refractors, none of which is large enough to satisfy them for visual work. A few are affluent enough to get a seven or eight inch apo, and they are the envy of the others.

We on the reflector forum have the same longing for larger aperture but the difference is that we are at the same time well pleased with the aperture we do have since it is typically ten inches or more.

Bill


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ThreeD
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Re: You ever go to the Refractor forum by mistake? new [Re: TFiebig]
      #5547715 - 11/30/12 07:09 PM

Yup. Once in a while I click the wrong link and I go then quickly hit the back button...

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cliff mygatt
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Re: You ever go to the Refractor forum by mistake? new [Re: ThreeD]
      #5547798 - 11/30/12 08:10 PM

I do go by accident but I do have 2 refractors!

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d.sireci51
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Re: You ever go to the Refractor forum by mistake? new [Re: auriga]
      #5547873 - 11/30/12 08:59 PM

Quote:

There are always far more people logged in to the refractor forum. They seem to start with small refractors and gradually increase the size until they end up with three or four refractors, none of which is large enough to satisfy them for visual work. A few are affluent enough to get a seven or eight inch apo, and they are the envy of the others.

We on the reflector forum have the same longing for larger aperture but the difference is that we are at the same time well pleased with the aperture we do have since it is typically ten inches or more.

Bill




OH????????? I get it NOW!!!!!!!! Not to punt any phrases but is it: Size doesnt matter??? OR; Bigger is better???????


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ausastronomerModerator
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Re: You ever go to the Refractor forum by mistake? new [Re: d.sireci51]
      #5547881 - 11/30/12 09:04 PM

Won't ever happen. The 4 refractors I own are all sitting on newtonians as finderscopes.

Cheers,


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Ed D
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Re: You ever go to the Refractor forum by mistake? new [Re: ausastronomer]
      #5547918 - 11/30/12 09:30 PM

Guess which one I prefer!

<=====<<< (hint)

Ed D


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kfiscus
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Re: You ever go to the Refractor forum by mistake? new [Re: Ed D]
      #5547975 - 11/30/12 10:20 PM

I've gone over there to cause trouble a couple of times.

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careysub
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Re: You ever go to the Refractor forum by mistake? new [Re: d.sireci51]
      #5547981 - 11/30/12 10:29 PM

To me, in the refractor world, smaller and shorter is better.

Reflectors are challenged in the wide-angle viewing world. You just can't fill an ES100 25mm field stop (43.6 mm IIRC) with an acceptably small secondary mirror on an F/4 450 mm FL scope. To get real wide angle you need to go with a refractor.

I started with these handy small binoviewing refractors ("binoculars" I believe they are called), going as large as an 80mm there. For single scopes I started with a large 102mm F/9.8 achromat ($200 at Costco right now) and am now moving back down to a 80mm F/5 (the Orion ST80) and am contemplating moving farther down to an even wider-angle build using a 70mm F/4.3 objective (formerly a Celestron SkyMaster binocular objective).

Someday I may follow Mr.Bill's 127mm f/5.5 Istar achromat bino-box build. Probably the biggest (and most expensive) refractor I would ever own.

For true apochromats though nothing beats the reflector.

Edited by careysub (12/01/12 12:20 AM)


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mark cowan
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Re: You ever go to the Refractor forum by mistake? new [Re: TFiebig]
      #5548018 - 11/30/12 11:04 PM

There's a Refractor forum?

Best,
Mark


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Jon Isaacs
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Re: You ever go to the Refractor forum by mistake? new [Re: mark cowan]
      #5548043 - 11/30/12 11:28 PM

I rarely go to the refractor forum by mistake though it happens, but I go there on purpose a great deal.

I appreciate both small scopes and large scopes and find that in general, refractors are the best small scopes and reflectors are the best large scopes. Telescopes are like camera lenses, it is important to pick the tool for the job. A pristine 4.5 degree TFoV just ain't gonna happen in a reflector... one is not going to resolve small globulars in a refractor.

Jon


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frito
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Re: You ever go to the Refractor forum by mistake? new [Re: Jon Isaacs]
      #5548085 - 12/01/12 12:04 AM

haha i just did that twice in a row. the second time i was like ahh how did i do that again!!

Edited by frito (12/01/12 12:04 AM)


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george golitzin
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Re: You ever go to the Refractor forum by mistake? new [Re: frito]
      #5548171 - 12/01/12 01:30 AM

Yes but I don't stay long.

-geo


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Meadeball
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Re: You ever go to the Refractor forum by mistake? new [Re: george golitzin]
      #5548224 - 12/01/12 02:44 AM

Ooops! How did I get here? I was looking for telescopes that aren't made out of plywood and cardboard, and don't need to be painted each year when I seal the deck ...

Edited by Meadeball (12/01/12 02:45 AM)


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Asbytec
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Re: You ever go to the Refractor forum by mistake? new [Re: Meadeball]
      #5548293 - 12/01/12 04:58 AM

In the other forum, 6" is pretty big.

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Jon Isaacs
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Re: You ever go to the Refractor forum by mistake? new [Re: Meadeball]
      #5548299 - 12/01/12 05:10 AM

Quote:

Ooops! How did I get here? I was looking for telescopes that aren't made out of plywood and cardboard, and don't need to be painted each year when I seal the deck ...




They're here, the scope in the photo, it's original and more than 30 years old.

But you're probably looking for pea-shooters and spit-wad straws... Best to head over to the refractor forum for those.



Jon



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Jeff Morgan
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Re: You ever go to the Refractor forum by mistake? new [Re: careysub]
      #5548429 - 12/01/12 08:54 AM

Quote:

To me, in the refractor world, smaller and shorter is better.





And it is galaxy-free


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Meadeball
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Re: You ever go to the Refractor forum by mistake? [Re: Jeff Morgan]
      #5548454 - 12/01/12 09:14 AM

Jon, j/k of course. That's a beautiful scope.

Look at my signature; you'll see I swing both ways. And remember, you reflector guys get your guidance from leeeeetle refractors ...

Meade


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