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Astrojensen
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Re: You ever go to the Refractor forum by mistake? new [Re: Jeff Morgan]
      #5548590 - 12/01/12 11:02 AM

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And it is galaxy-free




Nonsense!



Markarian's Chain, observed with my WO 72mm f/6 ED, April 2011. Baader Maxbright binoviewer, 21x - 53x, single eyepiece 67x and 84x, to get the faintest little buggers. Field is about 2.5° wide, as seen with my 25mm TS Kellners, at 21x.


Clear skies!
Thomas, Denmark


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Jim Romanski
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Re: You ever go to the Refractor forum by mistake? new [Re: TFiebig]
      #5548628 - 12/01/12 11:38 AM

It's really weird there. They talk about taking their scopes out and seeing planetary detail and splitting the double double before having to wait for the scope to cool down or be collimated.

They even claim to be able to see M31 and the Pleiades within 4 degrees FOV. Like anybody can really see that much.


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rguasto
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Re: You ever go to the Refractor forum by mistake? new [Re: Jim Romanski]
      #5548663 - 12/01/12 12:00 PM

They're all just rationalizing aperture issues.

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Re: You ever go to the Refractor forum by mistake? new [Re: Astrojensen]
      #5548665 - 12/01/12 12:01 PM

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And it is galaxy-free


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Nonsense!






but it was still funny.


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Astrojensen
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Re: You ever go to the Refractor forum by mistake? new [Re: Pinbout]
      #5548672 - 12/01/12 12:06 PM

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but it was still funny.




It was. It just wasn't true.


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Jon Isaacs
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Re: You ever go to the Refractor forum by mistake? new [Re: Astrojensen]
      #5548691 - 12/01/12 12:17 PM

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Quote:

but it was still funny.




It was. It just wasn't true.


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Thomas, Denmark




No doubt about it... I think we are just trying to be as silly as the SRFs.

(SRF = Slobbering Refractor Freaks)

Jon


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Astrojensen
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Re: You ever go to the Refractor forum by mistake? new [Re: Jon Isaacs]
      #5548723 - 12/01/12 12:36 PM

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I think we are just trying to be as silly as the SRFs.




We're not doing a very good job at it, are we?


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howard929
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Re: You ever go to the Refractor forum by mistake? new [Re: TFiebig]
      #5548774 - 12/01/12 01:11 PM

Only twice by mistake and I got outta there both times as fast as I would falling in boiling water.

Though I did get loads of help and support there with a 60mm refractor I used to have. IMO they're a good group and why wouldn't they be.


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Re: You ever go to the Refractor forum by mistake? new [Re: Astrojensen]
      #5548779 - 12/01/12 01:15 PM Attachment (34 downloads)

Say Wha?

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Re: You ever go to the Refractor forum by mistake? new [Re: Astrojensen]
      #5549388 - 12/01/12 08:54 PM

Exactly! Viewing the Markarian Chain & etc. is a favorite of mine. Best galaxy concentration visible from Earth.

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Re: You ever go to the Refractor forum by mistake? new [Re: Jon Isaacs]
      #5549630 - 12/02/12 12:04 AM

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No doubt about it... I think we are just trying to be as silly as the SRFs.

(SRF = Slobbering Refractor Freaks)

Jon




Exactly.

And in the interest of full disclosure, I own a 4.7" refractor. (And it's an Astro-Physics, but I try not to slobber.)


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Re: You ever go to the Refractor forum by mistake? new [Re: Meadeball]
      #5549714 - 12/02/12 01:16 AM

I like all the scope forums as all designs have their advantages though the refractor camp does from time to time bash other designs but it always smacks of envy to me in most cases. Some points are valid but I see a. little too much isolation of controllable circumstances like thermals or horrendous seeing making for these hollow arguments against reflectors and the like. A far fairer argument would be a dollar for dollar scope comparison like an$8000 refractor versus and $8000 reflector.

Pete


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Dick Jacobson
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Re: You ever go to the Refractor forum by mistake? new [Re: TFiebig]
      #5550103 - 12/02/12 10:32 AM

In 2007 I participated in a brief discussion on Astromart that went as follows:

PC: ...will compete against APO refrectors in color free high power views.

DJ: "refrector" - is this a new type of catadioptric scope, or a Japanese Newtonian? Sorry, I just couldn't resist. This reminds me of when I was searching Japanese patent records, trying to use the auto-translation, and got the error message: "Cannot transrate your request."

PC: It's just my Engrish.

By the way, a couple of years ago I built a periscope accessory for my Newtonian that contains a small refractor. I suppose you could call the resulting hybrid scope a "refrector".


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Re: You ever go to the Refractor forum by mistake? new [Re: azure1961p]
      #5550200 - 12/02/12 11:44 AM

A far fairer argument would be a dollar for dollar scope comparison like an$8000 refractor versus and $8000 reflector.

Pete




That I'd like to See!!!!!!


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Mike B
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Re: You ever go to the Refractor forum by mistake? new [Re: Jeff Morgan]
      #5550209 - 12/02/12 11:49 AM

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And it is galaxy-free




If i saw that in a 'fractor, i'd be tempted to clean the objective & try again... rule out the most plausible first before boasting of a sighting.


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You ever go to the Refractor forum by mistake?



No, but i went to the binoculars forum by mistake TWICE ... does that count?

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And it's an Astro-Physics, but I try not to slobber.



In all seriousness, if i had an 4.7" AP 'fractor, i'd be tryin' hard myself... might still need a napkin.


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Re: You ever go to the Refractor forum by mistake? new [Re: d.sireci51]
      #5550482 - 12/02/12 02:45 PM

Daniel Mounsey did a comparison of his Ceravolo HD145 against a TEC140

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Dennis_S253
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Re: You ever go to the Refractor forum by mistake? new [Re: Pinbout]
      #5551333 - 12/03/12 12:31 AM

maybe I should have stayed in the beginner forum, my 6" don't sound big enough for you.

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Re: You ever go to the Refractor forum by mistake? new [Re: d.sireci51]
      #5551480 - 12/03/12 03:43 AM

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A far fairer argument would be a dollar for dollar scope comparison like an$8000 refractor versus and $8000 reflector.

Pete




That I'd like to See!!!!!!




What would the point be? They would be such different scopes that the result would be obvious from the outset.

Jon


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Re: You ever go to the Refractor forum by mistake? new [Re: Jon Isaacs]
      #5551654 - 12/03/12 08:37 AM

Just think of the gasps (awe, astonishment, disbelief, who knows; they're refractor folk) when you mount that $8K refractor to the Newt/Dob as a finder scope.......

at least they can console themselves that at $8K, the coloring should be minimal...unlike us poor dob folks, whose idea of coloring involves paper and crayons........


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Mike B
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Re: You ever go to the Refractor forum by mistake? new [Re: csrlice12]
      #5551916 - 12/03/12 11:59 AM

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...unlike us poor dob folks, whose idea of coloring involves paper and crayons........




Hey! I deeply represent that remark!


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