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Ziggy943
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Reged: 08/11/06
Posts: 1525
Loc: Utah
Big refractors at season's last star party
      #3383496 - 10/11/09 11:11 AM Attachment (320 downloads)

Last night was the last scheduled opportunity to bring out the big refactors together for pictures and a star party. First task is to get these puppies set up and it is work. We think the work is worth the result.

This is the sequence of setting up the 9" Clark next to Steve's 8". And the race is on ...

Getting the empty tube off the trailer.

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May your skies always be clear,

Ziggy
www.slas.us

4" Mak
#1, 160mm F8 TEC (born 1-18-2007, 27 lbs, 45.5" long), on AP900
6" F17.5 (D&G lens) (first light 6-7-2008)
9" F/14.8 Alvan Clark (1915), on Byers 812
14.25 F/5.5 Newt in a roll off observatory
Others, that have come and gone


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Ziggy943
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Posts: 1525
Loc: Utah
Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #3383497 - 10/11/09 11:12 AM Attachment (238 downloads)

The mount is already set up.

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May your skies always be clear,

Ziggy
www.slas.us

4" Mak
#1, 160mm F8 TEC (born 1-18-2007, 27 lbs, 45.5" long), on AP900
6" F17.5 (D&G lens) (first light 6-7-2008)
9" F/14.8 Alvan Clark (1915), on Byers 812
14.25 F/5.5 Newt in a roll off observatory
Others, that have come and gone


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Ziggy943
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Posts: 1525
Loc: Utah
Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #3383500 - 10/11/09 11:13 AM Attachment (196 downloads)

Balancing act

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May your skies always be clear,

Ziggy
www.slas.us

4" Mak
#1, 160mm F8 TEC (born 1-18-2007, 27 lbs, 45.5" long), on AP900
6" F17.5 (D&G lens) (first light 6-7-2008)
9" F/14.8 Alvan Clark (1915), on Byers 812
14.25 F/5.5 Newt in a roll off observatory
Others, that have come and gone


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Ziggy943
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Posts: 1525
Loc: Utah
Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #3383501 - 10/11/09 11:15 AM Attachment (201 downloads)

Clamping it down. btw, this is my son Rob.

Note that the front end rests on the "porta meyer" and Steve is assembling in the back. We're winning so far.

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May your skies always be clear,

Ziggy
www.slas.us

4" Mak
#1, 160mm F8 TEC (born 1-18-2007, 27 lbs, 45.5" long), on AP900
6" F17.5 (D&G lens) (first light 6-7-2008)
9" F/14.8 Alvan Clark (1915), on Byers 812
14.25 F/5.5 Newt in a roll off observatory
Others, that have come and gone


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Ziggy943
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Posts: 1525
Loc: Utah
Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #3383505 - 10/11/09 11:18 AM Attachment (185 downloads)

Attaching the finder scope. This is the original finder.

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May your skies always be clear,

Ziggy
www.slas.us

4" Mak
#1, 160mm F8 TEC (born 1-18-2007, 27 lbs, 45.5" long), on AP900
6" F17.5 (D&G lens) (first light 6-7-2008)
9" F/14.8 Alvan Clark (1915), on Byers 812
14.25 F/5.5 Newt in a roll off observatory
Others, that have come and gone


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Ziggy943
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Posts: 1525
Loc: Utah
Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #3383508 - 10/11/09 11:19 AM Attachment (188 downloads)

Hey Steve

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May your skies always be clear,

Ziggy
www.slas.us

4" Mak
#1, 160mm F8 TEC (born 1-18-2007, 27 lbs, 45.5" long), on AP900
6" F17.5 (D&G lens) (first light 6-7-2008)
9" F/14.8 Alvan Clark (1915), on Byers 812
14.25 F/5.5 Newt in a roll off observatory
Others, that have come and gone


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Ziggy943
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Posts: 1525
Loc: Utah
Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #3383514 - 10/11/09 11:22 AM Attachment (140 downloads)

Close up of finder. I had to put the shim under the front support to compensate for the taper in the original tube.

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May your skies always be clear,

Ziggy
www.slas.us

4" Mak
#1, 160mm F8 TEC (born 1-18-2007, 27 lbs, 45.5" long), on AP900
6" F17.5 (D&G lens) (first light 6-7-2008)
9" F/14.8 Alvan Clark (1915), on Byers 812
14.25 F/5.5 Newt in a roll off observatory
Others, that have come and gone


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Ziggy943
Carpal Tunnel


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Posts: 1525
Loc: Utah
Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #3383526 - 10/11/09 11:29 AM Attachment (190 downloads)

Steve finally gets his OTA on

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May your skies always be clear,

Ziggy
www.slas.us

4" Mak
#1, 160mm F8 TEC (born 1-18-2007, 27 lbs, 45.5" long), on AP900
6" F17.5 (D&G lens) (first light 6-7-2008)
9" F/14.8 Alvan Clark (1915), on Byers 812
14.25 F/5.5 Newt in a roll off observatory
Others, that have come and gone


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Ziggy943
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Loc: Utah
Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #3383527 - 10/11/09 11:30 AM Attachment (173 downloads)

Bringing the lens

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May your skies always be clear,

Ziggy
www.slas.us

4" Mak
#1, 160mm F8 TEC (born 1-18-2007, 27 lbs, 45.5" long), on AP900
6" F17.5 (D&G lens) (first light 6-7-2008)
9" F/14.8 Alvan Clark (1915), on Byers 812
14.25 F/5.5 Newt in a roll off observatory
Others, that have come and gone


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Ziggy943
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Posts: 1525
Loc: Utah
Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #3383539 - 10/11/09 11:37 AM Attachment (171 downloads)

Carefully placing the lens. That's Bill in the background.

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May your skies always be clear,

Ziggy
www.slas.us

4" Mak
#1, 160mm F8 TEC (born 1-18-2007, 27 lbs, 45.5" long), on AP900
6" F17.5 (D&G lens) (first light 6-7-2008)
9" F/14.8 Alvan Clark (1915), on Byers 812
14.25 F/5.5 Newt in a roll off observatory
Others, that have come and gone


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Ziggy943
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Posts: 1525
Loc: Utah
Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #3383543 - 10/11/09 11:39 AM Attachment (125 downloads)

Adding the tube counterweights.

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May your skies always be clear,

Ziggy
www.slas.us

4" Mak
#1, 160mm F8 TEC (born 1-18-2007, 27 lbs, 45.5" long), on AP900
6" F17.5 (D&G lens) (first light 6-7-2008)
9" F/14.8 Alvan Clark (1915), on Byers 812
14.25 F/5.5 Newt in a roll off observatory
Others, that have come and gone


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Ziggy943
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Posts: 1525
Loc: Utah
Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #3383549 - 10/11/09 11:40 AM Attachment (159 downloads)

Puts a smile on my face

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May your skies always be clear,

Ziggy
www.slas.us

4" Mak
#1, 160mm F8 TEC (born 1-18-2007, 27 lbs, 45.5" long), on AP900
6" F17.5 (D&G lens) (first light 6-7-2008)
9" F/14.8 Alvan Clark (1915), on Byers 812
14.25 F/5.5 Newt in a roll off observatory
Others, that have come and gone


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Ziggy943
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Posts: 1525
Loc: Utah
Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #3383551 - 10/11/09 11:41 AM Attachment (188 downloads)

And the winners are ....

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May your skies always be clear,

Ziggy
www.slas.us

4" Mak
#1, 160mm F8 TEC (born 1-18-2007, 27 lbs, 45.5" long), on AP900
6" F17.5 (D&G lens) (first light 6-7-2008)
9" F/14.8 Alvan Clark (1915), on Byers 812
14.25 F/5.5 Newt in a roll off observatory
Others, that have come and gone


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Ziggy943
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Posts: 1525
Loc: Utah
Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #3383554 - 10/11/09 11:43 AM Attachment (133 downloads)

Steve is sill at it

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May your skies always be clear,

Ziggy
www.slas.us

4" Mak
#1, 160mm F8 TEC (born 1-18-2007, 27 lbs, 45.5" long), on AP900
6" F17.5 (D&G lens) (first light 6-7-2008)
9" F/14.8 Alvan Clark (1915), on Byers 812
14.25 F/5.5 Newt in a roll off observatory
Others, that have come and gone


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Ziggy943
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Posts: 1525
Loc: Utah
Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #3383559 - 10/11/09 11:46 AM Attachment (159 downloads)

I don't bring out the Clark much anymore so it turns into a photo op. Bill taking picures.

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May your skies always be clear,

Ziggy
www.slas.us

4" Mak
#1, 160mm F8 TEC (born 1-18-2007, 27 lbs, 45.5" long), on AP900
6" F17.5 (D&G lens) (first light 6-7-2008)
9" F/14.8 Alvan Clark (1915), on Byers 812
14.25 F/5.5 Newt in a roll off observatory
Others, that have come and gone


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Ziggy943
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Loc: Utah
Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #3383561 - 10/11/09 11:47 AM Attachment (183 downloads)

No words need

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May your skies always be clear,

Ziggy
www.slas.us

4" Mak
#1, 160mm F8 TEC (born 1-18-2007, 27 lbs, 45.5" long), on AP900
6" F17.5 (D&G lens) (first light 6-7-2008)
9" F/14.8 Alvan Clark (1915), on Byers 812
14.25 F/5.5 Newt in a roll off observatory
Others, that have come and gone


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Bill Cowles
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Reged: 04/16/06
Posts: 1045
Loc: Utah
Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #3383563 - 10/11/09 11:47 AM Attachment (143 downloads)

My turn, check out the fantastic Brass finishings.

Bill

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Lunt LS60TS50DS/B1200/FT (on order)
TV Gensis/Solarmax 60 filter
PST DS/Herschel Wedge/C4-R
C6-R /Atlas Goto/Moonlite CF2
12" LightBridge/Round Table
MCHP/8" Orion OTA/Ultima 2000
10" Discovery /Celestron SE-4


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Ziggy943
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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #3383565 - 10/11/09 11:49 AM Attachment (132 downloads)

A profile

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May your skies always be clear,

Ziggy
www.slas.us

4" Mak
#1, 160mm F8 TEC (born 1-18-2007, 27 lbs, 45.5" long), on AP900
6" F17.5 (D&G lens) (first light 6-7-2008)
9" F/14.8 Alvan Clark (1915), on Byers 812
14.25 F/5.5 Newt in a roll off observatory
Others, that have come and gone


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Ziggy943
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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #3383568 - 10/11/09 11:51 AM Attachment (139 downloads)

The big guns. Steve and I are chatting in the middle

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May your skies always be clear,

Ziggy
www.slas.us

4" Mak
#1, 160mm F8 TEC (born 1-18-2007, 27 lbs, 45.5" long), on AP900
6" F17.5 (D&G lens) (first light 6-7-2008)
9" F/14.8 Alvan Clark (1915), on Byers 812
14.25 F/5.5 Newt in a roll off observatory
Others, that have come and gone


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Bill Cowles
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Posts: 1045
Loc: Utah
Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Bill Cowles]
      #3383570 - 10/11/09 11:51 AM Attachment (158 downloads)

This is one Big Scope and one of few Clark refractors taken to public star parties.

Bill

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Lunt LS60TS50DS/B1200/FT (on order)
TV Gensis/Solarmax 60 filter
PST DS/Herschel Wedge/C4-R
C6-R /Atlas Goto/Moonlite CF2
12" LightBridge/Round Table
MCHP/8" Orion OTA/Ultima 2000
10" Discovery /Celestron SE-4

Edited by Bill Cowles (10/11/09 11:31 PM)


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Ziggy943
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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #3383571 - 10/11/09 11:52 AM Attachment (74 downloads)

and from the other side, better light.

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May your skies always be clear,

Ziggy
www.slas.us

4" Mak
#1, 160mm F8 TEC (born 1-18-2007, 27 lbs, 45.5" long), on AP900
6" F17.5 (D&G lens) (first light 6-7-2008)
9" F/14.8 Alvan Clark (1915), on Byers 812
14.25 F/5.5 Newt in a roll off observatory
Others, that have come and gone


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Bill Cowles
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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Bill Cowles]
      #3383575 - 10/11/09 11:55 AM Attachment (76 downloads)

Ready for viewing.

Bill

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Lunt LS60TS50DS/B1200/FT (on order)
TV Gensis/Solarmax 60 filter
PST DS/Herschel Wedge/C4-R
C6-R /Atlas Goto/Moonlite CF2
12" LightBridge/Round Table
MCHP/8" Orion OTA/Ultima 2000
10" Discovery /Celestron SE-4


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Ziggy943
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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #3383577 - 10/11/09 11:55 AM Attachment (90 downloads)

The 9" Clark

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May your skies always be clear,

Ziggy
www.slas.us

4" Mak
#1, 160mm F8 TEC (born 1-18-2007, 27 lbs, 45.5" long), on AP900
6" F17.5 (D&G lens) (first light 6-7-2008)
9" F/14.8 Alvan Clark (1915), on Byers 812
14.25 F/5.5 Newt in a roll off observatory
Others, that have come and gone


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Ziggy943
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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #3383583 - 10/11/09 11:57 AM Attachment (94 downloads)

My grandson brought the 6" Orion he won on AD

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May your skies always be clear,

Ziggy
www.slas.us

4" Mak
#1, 160mm F8 TEC (born 1-18-2007, 27 lbs, 45.5" long), on AP900
6" F17.5 (D&G lens) (first light 6-7-2008)
9" F/14.8 Alvan Clark (1915), on Byers 812
14.25 F/5.5 Newt in a roll off observatory
Others, that have come and gone


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Ziggy943
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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #3383584 - 10/11/09 11:58 AM Attachment (80 downloads)

The field getting ready

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May your skies always be clear,

Ziggy
www.slas.us

4" Mak
#1, 160mm F8 TEC (born 1-18-2007, 27 lbs, 45.5" long), on AP900
6" F17.5 (D&G lens) (first light 6-7-2008)
9" F/14.8 Alvan Clark (1915), on Byers 812
14.25 F/5.5 Newt in a roll off observatory
Others, that have come and gone


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Ziggy943
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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #3383591 - 10/11/09 12:00 PM Attachment (95 downloads)

The future owner of the Clark

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May your skies always be clear,

Ziggy
www.slas.us

4" Mak
#1, 160mm F8 TEC (born 1-18-2007, 27 lbs, 45.5" long), on AP900
6" F17.5 (D&G lens) (first light 6-7-2008)
9" F/14.8 Alvan Clark (1915), on Byers 812
14.25 F/5.5 Newt in a roll off observatory
Others, that have come and gone


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Bill Cowles
Pooh-Bah
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Posts: 1045
Loc: Utah
Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #3383592 - 10/11/09 12:00 PM Attachment (88 downloads)

Sig checking out Jupiter.

Bill

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Lunt LS60TS50DS/B1200/FT (on order)
TV Gensis/Solarmax 60 filter
PST DS/Herschel Wedge/C4-R
C6-R /Atlas Goto/Moonlite CF2
12" LightBridge/Round Table
MCHP/8" Orion OTA/Ultima 2000
10" Discovery /Celestron SE-4


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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #3383600 - 10/11/09 12:01 PM Attachment (74 downloads)

See if this works

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May your skies always be clear,

Ziggy
www.slas.us

4" Mak
#1, 160mm F8 TEC (born 1-18-2007, 27 lbs, 45.5" long), on AP900
6" F17.5 (D&G lens) (first light 6-7-2008)
9" F/14.8 Alvan Clark (1915), on Byers 812
14.25 F/5.5 Newt in a roll off observatory
Others, that have come and gone


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Bill Cowles
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Posts: 1045
Loc: Utah
Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Bill Cowles]
      #3383604 - 10/11/09 12:03 PM Attachment (74 downloads)

Before the crowd arrives.

Bill

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Lunt LS60TS50DS/B1200/FT (on order)
TV Gensis/Solarmax 60 filter
PST DS/Herschel Wedge/C4-R
C6-R /Atlas Goto/Moonlite CF2
12" LightBridge/Round Table
MCHP/8" Orion OTA/Ultima 2000
10" Discovery /Celestron SE-4


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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #3383605 - 10/11/09 12:03 PM Attachment (103 downloads)

And this is why we set up

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May your skies always be clear,

Ziggy
www.slas.us

4" Mak
#1, 160mm F8 TEC (born 1-18-2007, 27 lbs, 45.5" long), on AP900
6" F17.5 (D&G lens) (first light 6-7-2008)
9" F/14.8 Alvan Clark (1915), on Byers 812
14.25 F/5.5 Newt in a roll off observatory
Others, that have come and gone


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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #3383610 - 10/11/09 12:05 PM Attachment (80 downloads)

Grandkids

Christina above. This is Arianna

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May your skies always be clear,

Ziggy
www.slas.us

4" Mak
#1, 160mm F8 TEC (born 1-18-2007, 27 lbs, 45.5" long), on AP900
6" F17.5 (D&G lens) (first light 6-7-2008)
9" F/14.8 Alvan Clark (1915), on Byers 812
14.25 F/5.5 Newt in a roll off observatory
Others, that have come and gone


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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #3383615 - 10/11/09 12:07 PM Attachment (71 downloads)

Other visitors. Look in there ...

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May your skies always be clear,

Ziggy
www.slas.us

4" Mak
#1, 160mm F8 TEC (born 1-18-2007, 27 lbs, 45.5" long), on AP900
6" F17.5 (D&G lens) (first light 6-7-2008)
9" F/14.8 Alvan Clark (1915), on Byers 812
14.25 F/5.5 Newt in a roll off observatory
Others, that have come and gone


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Bill Cowles
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Posts: 1045
Loc: Utah
Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #3383621 - 10/11/09 12:09 PM Attachment (83 downloads)

The real fun is watching Steve "Atlas" Fisher, set up his 8" D&G.

Bill

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Lunt LS60TS50DS/B1200/FT (on order)
TV Gensis/Solarmax 60 filter
PST DS/Herschel Wedge/C4-R
C6-R /Atlas Goto/Moonlite CF2
12" LightBridge/Round Table
MCHP/8" Orion OTA/Ultima 2000
10" Discovery /Celestron SE-4


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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #3383623 - 10/11/09 12:09 PM Attachment (76 downloads)

Steve had a line all night.

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Bill Cowles]
      #3383627 - 10/11/09 12:10 PM Attachment (78 downloads)

OK, now the hard part.

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      #3383629 - 10/11/09 12:11 PM Attachment (63 downloads)

It was cold.

And last. My little Wilhelm (grandson) with my brother.

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Bill Cowles]
      #3383634 - 10/11/09 12:14 PM Attachment (63 downloads)

This is getting tuff for an Old man.

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      #3383658 - 10/11/09 12:26 PM Attachment (67 downloads)

This is getting real hard.

Bill

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #3383660 - 10/11/09 12:27 PM

Zig....Just an innocent question. Why doesn't Steve just turn his rings around like yours so he doesn't have to launch over the top of them? Mike

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      #3383662 - 10/11/09 12:27 PM Attachment (71 downloads)

Finally!

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      #3383670 - 10/11/09 12:31 PM Attachment (64 downloads)

The End.

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #3383685 - 10/11/09 12:37 PM

It's probably because of the picture before this, thanks.

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #3383699 - 10/11/09 12:45 PM Attachment (68 downloads)

Just had to add another picture of the "porta meyer", you have to see it in action.

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: mikey cee]
      #3383710 - 10/11/09 12:48 PM

We have to modify the rings to allow that. Yes, Steve will break his back if he continues to load the telescope that way.

The rings right now cannot be opened far enought to stay open when the hinge is up. They fall back closed. We need to remove some material to allow that. Steve and I talked about that last night. I have the same problem when I put up the 6" F/17.5.

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6" F17.5 (D&G lens) (first light 6-7-2008)
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      #3383711 - 10/11/09 12:48 PM Attachment (45 downloads)

Just about ready.

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      #3383716 - 10/11/09 12:51 PM Attachment (47 downloads)

OK Sig, It's Clark!

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Bill Cowles]
      #3383718 - 10/11/09 12:52 PM

Wow , great picts . Thanks foe posting !

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Bill Cowles]
      #3383719 - 10/11/09 12:52 PM

Wow, thanks, images were a lot of fun!!!! I'll never complain about setting up my Celestron 80ED again...promise.

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      #3383720 - 10/11/09 12:52 PM

Wow , great picts . Thanks for posting !

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Bill Cowles]
      #3383739 - 10/11/09 01:04 PM

Impressing refractors!

With these long focal length tubes I guess there are no need of APO-technology for the colour correction?

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Swedpat]
      #3383831 - 10/11/09 02:28 PM

Well, I'm finally awake. Hard to sleep in with you guys all talking about me.

Next time the new D&G goes out I will have to have the rings open the other way or a "porta Meyer" like Siegfrieds. I dismounted the OTA in a completely different manner last night and still appreciated Bill's help in getting her down safely.

While my back is fine now, I am close to 60 (I won't say which side) and I want to keep it that way.

In a very small way I'm sorry we didn't get more of a chance to compare them in a real shootout but I am so glad we got side by side pictures of them at a public event, and we did have the public. I mentioned to Siegfried last night late that I thought it was the biggest turnout of the year in numbers. At least it felt that way at my scope.

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Steve Fisher]
      #3383842 - 10/11/09 02:37 PM

At these focal lengths, I'm guessing that planets and double stars are your primart targets but what deep sky targets did you view?

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Steve Darden]
      #3383875 - 10/11/09 02:56 PM

Well as an objective outsider here I can tell you that those scopes can handle deep sky objects very well. Especially due to the fact they have such dark contrasty flat fields. Mike

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Steve Darden]
      #3383891 - 10/11/09 03:05 PM

When you have a steady line of customers it's hard to switch objects. We have big reflectors in the observatory that were largely on Deep Sky. You should see M13 in the 32".

I stayed on Jupiter until close to the end. I then switched to E-Lyrae for a short time before going back to Jupiter to see Io going in front.

I think Steve went from Jupiter to Iota Cass and pretty much stayed there.

With Io we watched the round disk brightly slipping in front of the planet. Easy to see, easy to follow. We watched past second contact where the moon was completely in front of Jupiter and then called it a night. The "Clear Sky clock" was pretty accurate.

It had predicted a window from 6:00 pm till midnight. Clouds started coming in a little early and on occasion dimmed Jupiter enough to notice but not lose it.

Just like the song that goes, "these boots are made for walkin" these scopes are tailor made for the planets and the double stars we observed.

This was our last public star party of the year. It was the best attended. I'm already anxious for next year.

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6" F17.5 (D&G lens) (first light 6-7-2008)
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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Steve Darden]
      #3383893 - 10/11/09 03:06 PM

Quote:

At these focal lengths, I'm guessing that planets and double stars are your primart targets but what deep sky targets did you view?




You have guessed correctly! Both Siegfried and I started out on Jupiter for the public since it was visable at dusk. When possible I moved to Iota, Cassiopia (my personal favorite) and I think Siegfried ended the night on Epsilon Lyra.

My scope performs beautifuly on DSO's that you would expect to see nicely in an 8" SCT. That is not where my interests are. I had a spectacular view of the Cabius crater on Friday morning and had there been anything to see, I would have seen it. Doubles, triples, and being able to push the magnification to its limits from my light poluted skies at home in my back yard appeal to me.

When you add to the above what Siegfried calls social astronomy you know where we are coming from. To me social astronomy is more than outreach. Yes, outreach is a big part of it but it is so much more. It includes the neighbor kids stopping by to see when I'll have the scope out front again? It is the friendship of my fellow club members. It is the talk of astronomy, our kids, our lives and past events. It is making fun of our friends for some of the dumb things they have done and being able to laugh at myself for the dumb things I have done.

This is a great hobby.

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: mikey cee]
      #3383894 - 10/11/09 03:06 PM

I can safely say that is the highest in the air I have seen a Byers mount;-)

Thanks for posting, sounds like a great star party.

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: mikey cee]
      #3383895 - 10/11/09 03:06 PM

I was thinking that the FOV might be an issue for many DSO. I can only imagine how nice the views must be. The more I see these scopes, the more I want one but then I think about the mount, the set up time and the probable hernia

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Steve Darden]
      #3383899 - 10/11/09 03:09 PM

Quote:

I was thinking that the FOV might be an issue for many DSO. I can only imagine how nice the views must be. The more I see these scopes, the more I want one but then I think about the mount, the set up time and the probable hernia




Everyting worthwhile has a price.

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #3383907 - 10/11/09 03:15 PM

Quote:

Quote:

I was thinking that the FOV might be an issue for many DSO. I can only imagine how nice the views must be. The more I see these scopes, the more I want one but then I think about the mount, the set up time and the probable hernia




Everyting worthwhile has a price.




True! So true. By the way, I like the "social astronomy" idea.

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Steve Fisher]
      #3383996 - 10/11/09 04:08 PM

It just wasn't big refractors last night, I had my little 10" discovery next to Steve's 8". This is a big advantage, due to his long lines, gives me more viewing times, at times I did steal people from his lines. Another problem with mine, is it's black and compared to those long white tubes, it gets overlooked. It does give nice images and with a EQ platform, works wonders at public star parties. I too, can't wait till next year.

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Bill Cowles]
      #3384006 - 10/11/09 04:13 PM

Nah, it was all about the big refractors last night.

Too bad Brent and Bob didn't make it.

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #3384018 - 10/11/09 04:18 PM

Wow, thanks for the great pictures.
You guys get to this site quite often,
Is it very dark?

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: stevew]
      #3384063 - 10/11/09 04:48 PM

Quote:

Wow, thanks for the great pictures.
You guys get to this site quite often,
Is it very dark?

Steve




It's our home. It's the place we picked to build our Society's observatory. It's dark enough for our purpose which was to provide a 'public' observatory.

For us it represents perhaps the best compromise of a quality sky that is dark enough, security, and convenience to the public. We reasoned that if we are building an observatory to which we want the public to come we can't build it so remote that the public won't come or at least not in the numbers we want to attract.

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6" F17.5 (D&G lens) (first light 6-7-2008)
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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #3384151 - 10/11/09 05:58 PM

Ziggy, It sounds great. Security, and accesability are a big part of an observing site.
Thanks again for all the great pictures.

Steve

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #3384198 - 10/11/09 06:35 PM

Ziggy,

Thanks as always for a SUPERB chance for us ALL to participate with all of you in a GREAT evening!!!

The photos (as usual) are stunning, and informative to us all around what's involved in setting up for one of these events... With scopes like this, many of us can only fantacize at how superb the images would be...

Thanks again!!!

Jan

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Steve Fisher]
      #3384206 - 10/11/09 06:41 PM

Steve, I'm glad we didn't turn it in to a shootout. I thoroughly enjoyed both scopes together. I enjoyed looking through them and taking these side by side pictures.

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      #3384271 - 10/11/09 07:37 PM

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I was thinking that the FOV might be an issue for many DSO. I can only imagine how nice the views must be. The more I see these scopes, the more I want one but then I think about the mount, the set up time and the probable hernia




I ovrerheard several conversations last night concerning how our scopes are impractical. (no kidding)? How important it is to have a rig that is lightweight and quick to setup.

I do agree but something I have never admited or gotten around to analyzing is how much I enjoy the setup process. I'm sure there is a word for someone like me. Maybe it's "anal". I enjoy the tinkering and fiddling and getting things balanced just right before a night of observing. Again, the tinkering and chatting with folks before the crowds get there is a big part of the fun.

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Steve Fisher]
      #3384456 - 10/11/09 10:01 PM

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How important it is to have a rig that is lightweight and quick to setup.






Only a real lightweight would come up with that. Don't pay them any attention.

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Jan Owen]
      #3384603 - 10/11/09 11:21 PM

Thanks Jan. I never tire of star parties.

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9" F/14.8 Alvan Clark (1915), on Byers 812
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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #3384681 - 10/12/09 12:31 AM

All I can say is WOW. That Clark is one year older than my mother inlaw. Nice scopes guys. I would love to make the trip up there sometime for a long look.

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #3385303 - 10/12/09 12:54 PM

Ziggy

, for all of those beautiful pic's, the scopes are really big. Too much for me to handle.

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: niteskystargazer]
      #3385330 - 10/12/09 01:12 PM

Now that was a really fun gallery!

Thank you both for sharing your magnificent refractors with us and with the partygoers.

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: LBartolomei]
      #3385356 - 10/12/09 01:26 PM

Yep, thanks for the pictures. I think the next time I make it up to Salt Lake (which may be quite some time!), I'll have to arrange it to coincide with one of your public parties. Talk about "observatory-class telescopes"! I'd love to get some lunar and planetary viewing in those big refractors!

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Zebra24601]
      #3385475 - 10/12/09 02:35 PM

You can follow the link under my sig. We publish our SP schedule every year.

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #3385817 - 10/12/09 06:08 PM

Quote:

You can follow the link under my sig. We publish our SP schedule every year.




And we would love to have you in attendance!

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Steve Fisher]
      #3385879 - 10/12/09 06:45 PM

That Clark scope is the most magnificent telescope I have ever seen. Fantastic. Bravo.

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Steve Fisher]
      #3386030 - 10/12/09 08:18 PM

I only wish that I lived closer to you, so I could witness the excitement of your 1915 treasure!

Regards,

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: macular hole]
      #3386059 - 10/12/09 08:35 PM

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That Clark scope is the most magnificent telescope I have ever seen. Fantastic. Bravo.




It really is a wonderful telescope.

The best part is that Siegfried delivers it and sets it up, alone for years and now with his son and brother for public outreach. Yes, he enjoys the views. He doesn't get to use it as much as he would like but I can guarantee you if he thought it would turn on a youngster to astronomy or any of the sciences he would move heaven and earth to make an observing event for that youngster.

Thanks Siegfried!

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Steve Fisher]
      #3386092 - 10/12/09 08:51 PM

Quote:

Quote:

That Clark scope is the most magnificent telescope I have ever seen. Fantastic. Bravo.




It really is a wonderful telescope.

The best part is that Siegfried delivers it and sets it up, alone for years and now with his son and brother for public outreach. Yes, he enjoys the views. He doesn't get to use it as much as he would like but I can guarantee you if he thought it would turn on a youngster to astronomy or any of the sciences he would move heaven and earth to make an observing event for that youngster.

Thanks Siegfried!




You folks have no idea how much I had to pay him to say that.

Thanks Steve.

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #3386106 - 10/12/09 09:04 PM

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Steve finally gets his OTA on




Is that an 8" or 6"???

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      #3386136 - 10/12/09 09:17 PM Attachment (39 downloads)

8" D&G.

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      #3386144 - 10/12/09 09:21 PM Attachment (38 downloads)

Here is Steve just about ready. This is a Big scope.

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Ennis]
      #3386147 - 10/12/09 09:23 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Steve finally gets his OTA on




Is that a 8" or 6"???

Ennis




8" f/12

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Steve Fisher]
      #3386150 - 10/12/09 09:26 PM

Steve....I don't believe it. Are you absolutely positive about that? Mike

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      #3386195 - 10/12/09 09:53 PM Attachment (22 downloads)

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Steve....I don't believe it. Are you absolutely positive about that? Mike




Of course I'm positive! I measured it myself.

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Steve Fisher]
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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Steve Fisher]
      #3386274 - 10/12/09 10:29 PM Attachment (28 downloads)

Yep 8".

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      #3386312 - 10/12/09 10:54 PM Attachment (40 downloads)

Since there seems to still be some doubt as to "if I have an 8" D&G" I also measured it with my High Quality Electronic Digital Caliper and I got the same answer.

Here is proof!

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Steve Fisher]
      #3386330 - 10/12/09 11:07 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Steve....I don't believe it. Are you absolutely positive about that? Mike




Of course I'm positive! I measured it myself.






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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #3386335 - 10/12/09 11:10 PM

The "Fisher" technique of measuring.

I'm going to re-measure the Clark

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6" F17.5 (D&G lens) (first light 6-7-2008)
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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Steve Fisher]
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Quote:

Quote:

Steve....I don't believe it. Are you absolutely positive about that? Mike




Of course I'm positive! I measured it myself.




It works!!!!!

I'm back to having the biggest refractor in the state, yeah

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6" F17.5 (D&G lens) (first light 6-7-2008)
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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #3386373 - 10/12/09 11:42 PM Attachment (36 downloads)

An overwhelming amount of phone calls and demand has lead to the creation of a new product guaranteed to save refractor owners thousands of dollars.

I will soon begin marketing the new Liniar Indicater Augmentation Rubber band or simply know as LIAR. If you use this device with your current measuring tape you will have full bragging rights and save thousands if not hundreds of thousands of dollars on you high end refractors.

Watch for news soon as I will surely be listed in the vendor section soon.

Also sold in bags of 200 for $4.95 from Staples.

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Steve Fisher]
      #3386398 - 10/13/09 12:01 AM



Me

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Steve Fisher]
      #3386404 - 10/13/09 12:03 AM



Bill

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Steve Fisher]
      #3386520 - 10/13/09 01:59 AM

Steve.....Well from now on I'll know better than to ? your integrity and most of all your ability! Mike

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: mikey cee]
      #3386851 - 10/13/09 09:54 AM

"Honesty is after all the best policy".

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Steve Fisher]
      #3387015 - 10/13/09 11:46 AM

thanks for all the pics - I've seen a few Clarks in various observatories and most are not in great shape, at least mechanically. It's great to see a Clark restored to its full glory! Too bad I"m too far away to come to the star parties.

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Scott99]
      #3387115 - 10/13/09 12:45 PM

I appreciate the comment but it's not quite in a restored stage. Long ago I made the decision that the scope needed to be portable. I wanted people to look through this scope not just at it. I was fortunate to have it come my way but on the other hand it was also fortunate for the scope. It was destined for the junk yard. The timing of my inquiery could not have been more timely.

In order to make it possible to transport I made an aluminum OTA out of irrigation pipe. The original tapered steel tube would be impossible to transport. I pressed the lens retaining ring into the 10" tube by freezing the ring and heating the tube then pounding them together. It is such a tight fit no fasteners are needed. In fact, the tube bulges slightly .

For the inscribed back plate I had an adapter made to compensate for the taper in the original tube. That allows me to use the original all brass focuser.

I had the brass tube counterweights made. Also note the shim under the finder to compensate for the tapered tube.

So, from the original scope I am using only the most critical and beautiful parts. The lens of course, the focuser and the finder. The rest is made so that the telescope is reasonably transportable.

The Byers mount is also reasonable portable and is enough to hold it reasonably steady. If I ever take it completely out of circulation I would put it on a heavier mount.

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6" F17.5 (D&G lens) (first light 6-7-2008)
9" F/14.8 Alvan Clark (1915), on Byers 812
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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #3387450 - 10/13/09 03:51 PM

that's pretty funny, I don't think people like Clark or Roland Christen would approve of your lens cell mounting procedure but we won't tell them! You did what you had to do, there's no way a steel or brass 9-inch f/15 tube is ever going to leave the observatory! the porta-meyer would never handle it!

The brass parts and lens look gorgeous. I can see that the tube is not original but it look great the way it is. Good job resurrecting this instrument and getting it out for viewing, thanks for sharing the photos.

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Scott99]
      #3396349 - 10/18/09 02:45 PM

Really liked this thread...my 6" f/15 in attendance would make a good trio of fun, big glass. We need an event like this here 'East.

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: bluestar]
      #3396732 - 10/18/09 06:17 PM

Hi Pat:

We had a wonderfull night this night. Siegfried and I have plotted a little this summer to get the two Big D&G's together. It was a great photo op.

We have a friend who posts here occasionally who owns an 11" f/15 D&G about fourty miles south of here. He has a great patio to the side of his observatory where we could set up a few of our big guns and really have a one in a million photo.

Is it April yet?

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Steve Fisher]
      #3396738 - 10/18/09 06:22 PM

So far no one has commented on the fact that Siegfried has a fully trained and well paid staff to assemble his scope and I set my 8" up alone. Just me. All by myself.

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Steve Fisher]
      #3396939 - 10/18/09 08:10 PM

Quote:

So far no one has commented on the fact that Siegfried has a fully trained and well paid staff to assemble his scope and I set my 8" up alone. Just me. All by myself.




What's your point?

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Steve Fisher]
      #3396957 - 10/18/09 08:23 PM

Quote:

Hi Pat:

We had a wonderfull night this night. Siegfried and I have plotted a little this summer to get the two Big D&G's together. It was a great photo op.

We have a friend who posts here occasionally who owns an 11" f/15 D&G about fourty miles south of here. He has a great patio to the side of his observatory where we could set up a few of our big guns and really have a one in a million photo.

Is it April yet?





Maybe we could 'Photoshop' his scope into a SPOC location

That would be a whole lot easier than carrying the Clark into Dave's backyard.

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6" F17.5 (D&G lens) (first light 6-7-2008)
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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #3396961 - 10/18/09 08:25 PM

Steve pointed out last night the we actually had two refractors there, bigger than the observatory scope. The 8" Brandt is actually a 200mm while Steve's D&G is a full 8" or 203mm.

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #3397079 - 10/18/09 09:34 PM

Hey what's the poop? My Brandt is a full 203.2000000000mm clear! Actually the lens is really 210mm on a paper towel. Mike

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Steve Fisher]
      #3397120 - 10/18/09 09:57 PM

I'm up for it in April. Of course, all I'd have to do is roll off the roof. You'd need to transport the big guns. That would be an awesome photo with a 9" Clark, and 8", 6", and 11" D&G. - Dave in Orem

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: DaveyJ]
      #3397143 - 10/18/09 10:13 PM

Quote:

I'm up for it in April. Of course, all I'd have to do is roll off the roof. You'd need to transport the big guns. That would be an awesome photo with a 9" Clark, and 8", 6", and 11" D&G. - Dave in Orem




Hi Dave,

The thought just occured to me that since you have cars back there, there must be a way to drive back there. If that can be done I could pull a trailer in there. I just wouln't want to (couldn't) carry the Clark pieces that far to the back. But, if we can drive right up, it's doable.

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: DaveyJ]
      #3397157 - 10/18/09 10:24 PM

Quote:

I'm up for it in April. Of course, all I'd have to do is roll off the roof. You'd need to transport the big guns. That would be an awesome photo with a 9" Clark, and 8", 6", and 11" D&G. - Dave in Orem




Hey! A new moniker.

Wouldn't this be fun. We could sell tickets.

I'm "all in". Let's hope we can find a good night.

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: mikey cee]
      #3397169 - 10/18/09 10:35 PM

Quote:

Hey what's the poop? My Brandt is a full 203.2000000000mm clear! Actually the lens is really 210mm on a paper towel. Mike




This is a question for Siegfried.

I "think" at one time or another he has owned all the Brandts in the Salt Lake valley. That is quite a few.

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Steve Fisher]
      #3397229 - 10/18/09 11:08 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Hey what's the poop? My Brandt is a full 203.2000000000mm clear! Actually the lens is really 210mm on a paper towel. Mike




This is a question for Siegfried.

I "think" at one time or another he has owned all the Brandt's in the Salt Lake valley. That is quite a few.




Well, not quite, but thanks for the thought.

I did own the 8" that is now in the observatory. I also owned an excellent 6" F/16.3 that I sold to Joan. BIG MISTAKE! Those are the only two Brandt's I have owned. I did get two others to also purchase 8" Brandt's but they were the F/13.3 variety.

I always considered the 8" an 8". I never thought to measure. It looks like 8". I'm sure Steve could come up with a measuring method to make it come out 8".

Metric Patrick measured the lens after he bought it from me and says it measures 200mm. To this day I have never checked. I guess we need to bring out a micrometer one time and re-measure.

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: DaveyJ]
      #3397259 - 10/18/09 11:47 PM Attachment (28 downloads)

Hi Dave, no one knows just how big an 11" D&G is, here is proof. I'm the only one int this group that doesn't own a D&G. Actually Sig doesn't either. I do own a 6" refractor, just happens to be black.

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Bill Cowles]
      #3397279 - 10/19/09 12:02 AM

Quote:

Hi Dave, no one knows just how big an 11" D&G is, here is proof. I'm the only one int this group that doesn't own a D&G. Actually Sig doesn't either. I do own a 6" refractor, just happens to be black.

Bill




You're right, I don't own a D&G. But, I still have the 6" that I made for Becky. Until she can take it I will have a D&G although I don't "Own" it. Possession is 9/10th of the law.

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #3397285 - 10/19/09 12:09 AM

"I do own a 6" refractor, just happens to be black."

Say the word and I'll find you a 5" or 6" D&G f/12-15. We can make this work for you.

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: DaveyJ]
      #3397710 - 10/19/09 10:09 AM

Quote:

I'm up for it in April. Of course, all I'd have to do is roll off the roof. You'd need to transport the big guns. That would be an awesome photo with a 9" Clark, and 8", 6", and 11" D&G. - Dave in Orem




We'd need to have Patrick do a fly over and take an arial shot.

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6" F17.5 (D&G lens) (first light 6-7-2008)
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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #3397795 - 10/19/09 11:14 AM Attachment (33 downloads)

This is an arial photo by club member Patrick of our Stansbury Park Observatory Complex, aka "SPOC".

The left building houses the red 8" F/16.7 refractor often mentioned here. The building to the right houses the 32" Dall-Kirkham, left chamber, and a 16" classical Cassegrain in the right chamber.

This is the place we hold most of out star parties.

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6" F17.5 (D&G lens) (first light 6-7-2008)
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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #3397798 - 10/19/09 11:18 AM

Where is everyone?

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Bill Cowles]
      #3397820 - 10/19/09 11:31 AM



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6" F17.5 (D&G lens) (first light 6-7-2008)
9" F/14.8 Alvan Clark (1915), on Byers 812
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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #3397833 - 10/19/09 11:38 AM

Did Patrick open up everything, go jump on his airplane and fly over and take the picture?

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Bill Cowles]
      #3398034 - 10/19/09 01:19 PM



By my count our pictures have had over 3,000 downloads. I can understand downloading the telescope pictures etc. but why would 21 people download a picture of a rubber band?

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6" F17.5 (D&G lens) (first light 6-7-2008)
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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #3398059 - 10/19/09 01:31 PM

It appeared to be a very innovative rubber band...
Or, if you can't listen to a brass band at work you might as well look at a rubber band...

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Darenwh]
      #3398140 - 10/19/09 02:16 PM

I guess we know who one of the 21 is

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6" F17.5 (D&G lens) (first light 6-7-2008)
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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #3398424 - 10/19/09 04:20 PM

Maybe "someone" or "something" is keeping track of what we do.

I'm not sayin' it's so, I'm just sayin' maybe.

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Steve Fisher]
      #3398483 - 10/19/09 04:44 PM Attachment (42 downloads)

I'm afraid I have bad news.

The band has announced it's breakup. They will soon be going their seperate ways.

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #3398487 - 10/19/09 04:47 PM

The same people who would download almost 300 images of the inside of Steve's HHR and a scope that is under a blanket.

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Bill Cowles]
      #3401924 - 10/21/09 10:54 AM

It turns out this will not be our last star party of the year. Due to a nice weather pattern here in Utah we have decided to hold one more under the lights on a grocery store parking lot.

The big refractors won't be there but we will be well represented anyway. I'll bring the 160, Steve will bring either the 6 or the 8.

Y'all are welcome.

Bangeter Crossing Harmons
138th South 1st East, Draper UT

We'll take pictures.

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4" Mak
#1, 160mm F8 TEC (born 1-18-2007, 27 lbs, 45.5" long), on AP900
6" F17.5 (D&G lens) (first light 6-7-2008)
9" F/14.8 Alvan Clark (1915), on Byers 812
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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #3402109 - 10/21/09 12:46 PM

Quote:

It turns out this will not be our last star party of the year. Due to a nice weather pattern here in Utah we have decided to hold one more under the lights on a grocery store parking lot.

The big refractors won't be there but we will be well represented anyway. I'll bring the 160, Steve will bring either the 6 or the 8.

Y'all are welcome.

Bangeter Crossing Harmons
138th South 1st East, Draper UT

We'll take pictures.




Friday or Saturday?

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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Steve Fisher]
      #3402120 - 10/21/09 12:50 PM

Saturday.

I'll be there before 6:00 to coordinate with the manager

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Ziggy
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4" Mak
#1, 160mm F8 TEC (born 1-18-2007, 27 lbs, 45.5" long), on AP900
6" F17.5 (D&G lens) (first light 6-7-2008)
9" F/14.8 Alvan Clark (1915), on Byers 812
14.25 F/5.5 Newt in a roll off observatory
Others, that have come and gone


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Steve Fisher
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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #3402645 - 10/21/09 05:01 PM

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Saturday.

I'll be there before 6:00 to coordinate with the manager




I'll be there at 6:01 to get a good spot.

Will you be posting elsewhere?

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8" f/12 D&G Achromat Refractor Delivered 08/27/09
6" D&G f/12 Achromat Refractor
66mm f/6.1 William Optics Petzval
6" f/8 Celestron Starhopper

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Ziggy943
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Re: Big refractors at season's last star party new [Re: Steve Fisher]
      #3427780 - 11/03/09 04:12 PM

Thank you for the compliments.

This thread has now had over 4,000 downloads. 18 pictures have been downloaded over 100 times, 1 over 200 times.

It is still amazing to me though that a rubber band would have 28 downloads and a cut rubber band would have 13. I'm not sure what that says about this group.

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May your skies always be clear,

Ziggy
www.slas.us

4" Mak
#1, 160mm F8 TEC (born 1-18-2007, 27 lbs, 45.5" long), on AP900
6" F17.5 (D&G lens) (first light 6-7-2008)
9" F/14.8 Alvan Clark (1915), on Byers 812
14.25 F/5.5 Newt in a roll off observatory
Others, that have come and gone


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