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Karl_Bonner_1982
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This time it's $104.95 instead of 99.95. Still a ridiculous deal if you ask me.
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7331Peg
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Loc: North coast of Oregon
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I saw that. Ordered it Monday, it shipped Tuesday, arrived today (Thursday). I have to say it was very well packed with enough bubble wrap to start a small packaging business. The OTA was also wrapped in tissue paper, which was a nice touch. The focuser seems to be plenty smooth, and the small finder is straight through but correct image, so it may be a keeper. Also came with a 45 degree erect image diagaonal, which I'll probably never use, and two Orion Sirius Plossl eyepieces, 25 and 10mm. But I didn't order the rain that came with it, so no idea yet how it performs.
John
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magic612
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Reged: 09/30/08
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Loc: Somewhere south of Chicago, IL
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I showed this scope - and importantly, the price - to my wife, and she asked, "Do you want it?" (Duh.) So she said, "Alright, that'll be your Christmas gift."
It's on order now.
-------------------- - Celestron C8+, Orion 90mm f/10, Orion ST-80, 5" f/8 Dob, 127mm f/9.4 refractor, 114mm f/8 on DS GoTo, 60mm Sears 6333-A, 127mm f4.4 refractor lens (current project), 12" f/5 mirror (future project)
- Orion Vista 10x50s (5 deg), Sears #6207 7x35 (7 deg), Jason #138 Statesman 7x35 (11.5 deg)
Yes, I'm addicted to telescopes and binoculars. I am getting help. Every time I look at the heavens, it helps.
http://www.eyesonthesky.com
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Preston Smith
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Reged: 04/24/05
Posts: 3435
Loc: Eureka, Pa
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I just recently had the opportunity to look through this scope and was VERY impressed! This is a real sleeper and and would be an outstanding first telescope. I was very pleasantly surprised to see such great images through this inexpensive OTA. Good contrast, sharpness, very little or no false color depending on the intended target. No coma, nice rings on star test, some color on out-focus but no issues when focused.
If you're looking at giving someone a very good, first refractor - this one is it! Orion just needs to change out the 45 degree diagonal for a 90 degree star diagonal.
-------------------- Preston
Lift your eyes and look to the heavens: Who created all these? He who brings out the starry host one by one, and calls them each by name. Because of His great power and mighty strength, not one of them is missing. Isaiah 40:26
SV115T,NHII,SV70,SV50 and Tele Vue Ranger
Vintage Refractors: Asahi-Pentax, Edmund Scientific, Tasco, Unitron
60mm Telescope Club
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coopman
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Loc: South Louisiana
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This is one of the OTAs that was recommended as a great grab & go in the book "Astronomy Hacks".
-------------------- Regards,
Clay
"The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands." Psalms 19:1
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Doug76
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This time it's $104.95 instead of 99.95. Still a ridiculous deal if you ask me.
That's a fact! Nice that Preston has actually viewed through one and gave it a thumbs up. That means much in my book.
-------------------- Doug
Truckstop Astronomer
The Universe, the light of God, in all it's majesty
6 achro refractors 50mm-150mm
1 apo refractor 90mm
1 SCT 8inch
UO Abbe Volcano Tops
Faworski Ortho's
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magic612
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Loc: Somewhere south of Chicago, IL
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Nice that Preston has actually viewed through one and gave it a thumbs up. That means much in my book.
I'll second that, and it's also VERY good to know given that I already have it on order.
-------------------- - Celestron C8+, Orion 90mm f/10, Orion ST-80, 5" f/8 Dob, 127mm f/9.4 refractor, 114mm f/8 on DS GoTo, 60mm Sears 6333-A, 127mm f4.4 refractor lens (current project), 12" f/5 mirror (future project)
- Orion Vista 10x50s (5 deg), Sears #6207 7x35 (7 deg), Jason #138 Statesman 7x35 (11.5 deg)
Yes, I'm addicted to telescopes and binoculars. I am getting help. Every time I look at the heavens, it helps.
http://www.eyesonthesky.com
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Preston Smith
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Reged: 04/24/05
Posts: 3435
Loc: Eureka, Pa
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That's a fact! Nice that Preston has actually viewed through one and gave it a thumbs up. That means much in my book.
Thanks Doug! 
As to SO be expected, I wanted to take it out for a second light, mount it on my ASGT mount and give it the "full tour" but it has been raining ever since!
-------------------- Preston
Lift your eyes and look to the heavens: Who created all these? He who brings out the starry host one by one, and calls them each by name. Because of His great power and mighty strength, not one of them is missing. Isaiah 40:26
SV115T,NHII,SV70,SV50 and Tele Vue Ranger
Vintage Refractors: Asahi-Pentax, Edmund Scientific, Tasco, Unitron
60mm Telescope Club
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deSitter
Carpal Tunnel
Reged: 12/09/04
Posts: 2926
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I just recently had the opportunity to look through this scope and was VERY impressed! This is a real sleeper and and would be an outstanding first telescope. I was very pleasantly surprised to see such great images through this inexpensive OTA. Good contrast, sharpness, very little or no false color depending on the intended target. No coma, nice rings on star test, some color on out-focus but no issues when focused.
If you're looking at giving someone a very good, first refractor - this one is it! Orion just needs to change out the 45 degree diagonal for a 90 degree star diagonal.
I have the Meade version of this scope and I'm constantly amazed how good a starter scope can be. I bought it just for terrestrial use and camping and it turns out to be my favorite quick-looker.
-drl
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7331Peg
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Reged: 09/01/08
Posts: 718
Loc: North coast of Oregon
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I've had mine for a week now. It was raining when it got here and it's still raining - ARRGGGHHH!
I did manage to get a peek at the moon and Jupiter through some brief sucker holes with the 25mm Sirius from under a carport. All I can say is the moon was very sharp and there was no CA visible. Jupiter was also sharp and clear with both bands clearly visible. Still would like to see what it can do at higher powers and on Epsilon Lyrae, but judging by the forecast, it might happen by Christmas.
John
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Karl_Bonner_1982
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Reged: 05/13/09
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I've had mine for a week now. It was raining when it got here and it's still raining - ARRGGGHHH! I did manage to get a peek at the moon and Jupiter through some brief sucker holes with the 25mm Sirius from under a carport. All I can say is the moon was very sharp and there was no CA visible. Jupiter was also sharp and clear with both bands clearly visible. Still would like to see what it can do at higher powers and on Epsilon Lyrae, but judging by the forecast, it might happen by Christmas.
John
It's looking now like there could be some clear skies over the next week or so. I usually don't think of early November as a good time for astronomy, though this year we might luck out (provided stubborn inversional valley fog doesn't become too much of a problem). Actually we've gotten quite a few November ridges in recent years, but most of them have been accompanied by fog inversions and moderately cold temperatures (40s) in the valleys.
Glad to hear that you're enjoying your scope, John. My original plan was to save up and get one of these as a Christmas gift to self. However now I've been flirting with the idea of selling the Mak and going for an Orion 80ED instead. The ED's short focal length would be a big help when trying to find things. But who knows? If I can't get a Mak buyer within the next 3 or 4 weeks then I might just go ahead and order this one instead.
This achro gets excellent reviews; it's making me wonder if it's really not that far behind the ED80 in performance...?
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Javier
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Reged: 05/03/09
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Loc: New Jersey
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Do you guys have a link to it? I can't seem to locate it.
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tpatnode
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Reged: 01/03/09
Posts: 73
Loc: Southern Pines, North Carolina
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Is there a link to this item on sale?
Thanks,
Tony
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magic612
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Reged: 09/30/08
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Loc: Somewhere south of Chicago, IL
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Looks like it's not on sale any more. Here's the link to the scope:
http://www.telescope.com/control/product/~category_id=refractors/~pcategory=telescopes/~product_id=09190
It was at $104.95 as of Tuesday night, since that's when I ordered mine. Not on sale now, it seems. I'm glad I didn't wait!
Even so, it really is a great deal even at $129.
-------------------- - Celestron C8+, Orion 90mm f/10, Orion ST-80, 5" f/8 Dob, 127mm f/9.4 refractor, 114mm f/8 on DS GoTo, 60mm Sears 6333-A, 127mm f4.4 refractor lens (current project), 12" f/5 mirror (future project)
- Orion Vista 10x50s (5 deg), Sears #6207 7x35 (7 deg), Jason #138 Statesman 7x35 (11.5 deg)
Yes, I'm addicted to telescopes and binoculars. I am getting help. Every time I look at the heavens, it helps.
http://www.eyesonthesky.com
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deSitter
Carpal Tunnel
Reged: 12/09/04
Posts: 2926
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I've had mine for a week now. It was raining when it got here and it's still raining - ARRGGGHHH! I did manage to get a peek at the moon and Jupiter through some brief sucker holes with the 25mm Sirius from under a carport. All I can say is the moon was very sharp and there was no CA visible. Jupiter was also sharp and clear with both bands clearly visible. Still would like to see what it can do at higher powers and on Epsilon Lyrae, but judging by the forecast, it might happen by Christmas.
John
These 90s are extremely capable. Back in August I followed the disappearance of Saturn's rings up until 3 days before crossing. I saw the Wesley event before knowing what it was. If you concentrate you'll be amazed what you can see on Jupiter. They are perfectly set up for Orthos.
-drl
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7331Peg
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Reged: 09/01/08
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Loc: North coast of Oregon
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I finally got some clear skies tonight, so I had a chance to see what this scope can do - and to be honest, I really didn't expect a whole lot from it.
The seeing was nice and steady for a change, so I spent over an hour on Jupiter. I started with a 30mm Tak and kept working my way up in magnification as the scope cooled. The best view was with an 8mm TV Plossl (114x), so I stayed with it for about 30 minutes. I could easily pick out irregularities in the NEB, but couldn't quite resolve them into festoons. The southern belt wasn't quite as dark, but I could still seem some irregularity in it. There was a thin belt just visible above the NEB, and some shading near the south pole also. Overall the view was sharp and well defined with the 8mm.
I put the 3-6mm TV zoom in and could get a decent image at 6 and 5mm (152x and 182x), but that was the limit. I could glimpse some detail at 4mm (228x) and at 3mm (303x) the belts were just about gone - but all four moons were still reasonably sharp! The focuser is decent, and the scope snaps right into focus, but if I had been working with a two-speed focuser, I probably could have coaxed some detail out of Jupiter at the 3mm setting.
I turned the scope to Epsilon Lyrae with the 8mm in it and was surprised to see both components cleanly split with dark sky between them. I switched to the 10mm Sirius Plossl (91x) that came with the scope and still had a clean split, so I moved up to a 15mm TV Plossl (61x) and could barely get some separation, but when the seeing was steady, they were cleanly split.
I took a quick look at Vega and for the first time I noticed a bit of CA, but it certainly wasn't a rainbow of colors. There was some green and yellow in and out of focus, but the rings were nice and concentric.
I swung over to Albireo to see what the colors would look like - very blue and very gold with both the 8 and 10mm Plossls. Polaris is always worth a look, and is a good test for a small scope because of the contrast in magnitudes between the two stars. I had no problem at all picking up the faint companion even with a 20mm Plossl.
I found I really didn't need any kind of red dot finder on this scope. I just sighted along the tube and then used the 6 x 26 correct image finder to center the object.
Regardless of whether the price is $104.00 or $129.00, this is a heck of a scope. I think Preston made the comment that this would make a good Christmas scope for someone. It's many levels above the worthless dime store scopes that are usually sold at this time of the year, and it really is possible to do some decent work with it.
Now, if I could convince myself it's worth adding a $150 GSO two-speed focuser to a hundred dollar scope ................
John
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russell23
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Reged: 05/31/09
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Loc: Upstate NY
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I finally got some clear skies tonight, so I had a chance to see what this scope can do - and to be honest, I really didn't expect a whole lot from it. The seeing was nice and steady for a change, so I spent over an hour on Jupiter. I started with a 30mm Tak and kept working my way up in magnification as the scope cooled. The best view was with an 8mm TV Plossl (114x), so I stayed with it for about 30 minutes. I could easily pick out irregularities in the NEB, but couldn't quite resolve them into festoons. The southern belt wasn't quite as dark, but I could still seem some irregularity in it. There was a thin belt just visible above the NEB, and some shading near the south pole also. Overall the view was sharp and well defined with the 8mm. I put the 3-6mm TV zoom in and could get a decent image at 6 and 5mm (152x and 182x), but that was the limit. I could glimpse some detail at 4mm (228x) and at 3mm (303x) the belts were just about gone - but all four moons were still reasonably sharp! The focuser is decent, and the scope snaps right into focus, but if I had been working with a two-speed focuser, I probably could have coaxed some detail out of Jupiter at the 3mm setting. I turned the scope to Epsilon Lyrae with the 8mm in it and was surprised to see both components cleanly split with dark sky between them. I switched to the 10mm Sirius Plossl (91x) that came with the scope and still had a clean split, so I moved up to a 15mm TV Plossl (61x) and could barely get some separation, but when the seeing was steady, they were cleanly split. I took a quick look at Vega and for the first time I noticed a bit of CA, but it certainly wasn't a rainbow of colors. There was some green and yellow in and out of focus, but the rings were nice and concentric. I swung over to Albireo to see what the colors would look like - very blue and very gold with both the 8 and 10mm Plossls. Polaris is always worth a look, and is a good test for a small scope because of the contrast in magnitudes between the two stars. I had no problem at all picking up the faint companion even with a 20mm Plossl. I found I really didn't need any kind of red dot finder on this scope. I just sighted along the tube and then used the 6 x 26 correct image finder to center the object. Regardless of whether the price is $104.00 or $129.00, this is a heck of a scope. I think Preston made the comment that this would make a good Christmas scope for someone. It's many levels above the worthless dime store scopes that are usually sold at this time of the year, and it really is possible to do some decent work with it. Now, if I could convince myself it's worth adding a $150 GSO two-speed focuser to a hundred dollar scope ................
John
None of this surprises me. I had one of these scopes in the 90's and used it extensively alongside an 8" dob. I'm not really sure why I ended up selling the thing.
Anyway, I've been looking for something a little more "grab~n~go" than my 120mm f/8 on a Williams optics EZ mount and I remembered that the 90mm f/10 OTA on the aluminum alt-azimuth mount was very quick and easy to set-up. (Note - not saying the 120 f/8 on EZ mount is not highly portable - but sometimes I want to be able to grab everything I need in one hand and go.)
I also wanted something that my kids can more easily use when they want to join me while I'm observing.
So I've been browsing different sites and found that SkyWatcher was having a sale $170 for the 90mm/f10 scope, altazimuth mount, 2EP, red dot finder, and star diagonal. I've been pondering whether or not to get it for a week.
Last night I happened to notice that the sale was ending 10/31 (last night). So I filled out the order, went through the checkout and was sitting there staring at the submit button and the final $197 charge it added to with discounted shipping costs. Money is tight, so I only buy something if I have enough in my "play-pal" account -- but even then I feel a twang of guilt every time I buy a piece of astro equipment.
Just then my youngest daughter -who was having a friend over - came in and asked me for the 2nd time if she could have the laptop. Since she was the child in particular I was thinking of when I began thinking of buying a smaller scope to have, I took her timing coming in as a sign I should hit the submit button.
So the order has been placed.
I had the Orion version in the 90's. I imagine the skywatcher version should be the same optics. I will let you guys know how it performs. The mount that comes with this scope is the same alt-azimuth that came with the one I bought in the 90's. I liked it -- lightweight, slow motion controls, sturdy. I don't remember there being any vibration issues.
Anyway, If the optics perform as well as I remember then I would rank this scope/mount combo as one of the top values on the market considering the quality and what is provided. Especially as a scope for beginners and kids. Even without the sale prices and shipping discount the whole package would have been $227 at regular cost.
Dave
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EdTheEdge
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Reged: 04/10/09
Posts: 127
Loc: Lomita, CA
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On sale again for $95.00(deal of the day). Might just pull the trigger this time.
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Celestron SP-C6 F/5
Orion ST80 F/5
Orion 90mm F/10.1
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Vixen Super Polaris
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Eyepieces:
Orion 25mm Sirius Plössl
Orion 15mm Expanse
Orion 10mm Ultrascopic
Orion 7.5mm HightLight Plössl
GSO 2X Barlow
Lumicon ND25
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Torrance,CA
Edited by EdTheEdge (11/06/09 11:35 AM)
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tpatnode
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Reged: 01/03/09
Posts: 73
Loc: Southern Pines, North Carolina
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Just ordered from www.telescope.com, $95.00 plus shipping.
Looking forward to receiving this scope.
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EdTheEdge
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Reged: 04/10/09
Posts: 127
Loc: Lomita, CA
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Just ordered from www.telescope.com, $95.00 plus shipping.
Looking forward to receiving this scope.
Me too! $121.77 total - not too bad.
I can see the clouds rolling in already!
-------------------- Scopes:
Celestron SP-C6 F/5
Orion ST80 F/5
Orion 90mm F/10.1
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Mount:
Vixen Super Polaris
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Eyepieces:
Orion 25mm Sirius Plössl
Orion 15mm Expanse
Orion 10mm Ultrascopic
Orion 7.5mm HightLight Plössl
GSO 2X Barlow
Lumicon ND25
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Torrance,CA
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