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Mike Clemens
Frozen to Eyepiece
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Reged: 11/26/05

Loc: Alaska, USA
Re: TEC 140 vs. 160 new [Re: wormstar]
      #4508012 - 04/09/11 10:27 PM

I had #5.. sold it to Max in Italy

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polaristom
sage


Reged: 12/17/07

Loc: Alaska
Re: TEC 140 vs. 160 new [Re: Mike Clemens]
      #4508264 - 04/10/11 01:35 AM Attachment (166 downloads)

Tonight I got a great 3D view of the moon!

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Scott99
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Re: TEC 140 vs. 160 new [Re: polaristom]
      #4508766 - 04/10/11 10:29 AM

Quote:

Sorry, I'm really having fun with these!




this is why I usually sell the old scope first!

you better get moving - watch out for the "Gollum" effect - a couple more days and you won't be able to sell the 140!


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Destrehan Dave
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Reged: 12/01/05

Loc: Destrehan, LA
Re: TEC 140 vs. 160 new [Re: Scott99]
      #4685910 - 07/10/11 09:25 PM

Please give us an update on the original topic of the observational capabilities of the 140 versus the 160.

Thanks

DD


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polaristom
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Reged: 12/17/07

Loc: Alaska
Re: TEC 140 vs. 160 new [Re: Destrehan Dave]
      #4686190 - 07/11/11 12:35 AM

Dave, I live up in Alaska, it has been 3 months since it was dark enough to use my new scope. I've looked so forward to winter rolling around; I promise I'll write a full review once I get a good look. Probably a couple more months however!

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Mike Clemens
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Reged: 11/26/05

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Re: TEC 140 vs. 160 new [Re: polaristom]
      #4687776 - 07/11/11 10:53 PM

The 160 is really going to deliver on the planets. Yuri and "Sky and Telescope" both downplay the difference between 140mm and 160mm but I think you will easily notice it. (Depending on observing habits.) Spend consistent time on Jupiter this Winter and you are going to be amazed. I am hoping for a heavy visual Winter after several years of photos only.

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ybor
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Reged: 01/07/06

Re: TEC 140 vs. 160 new [Re: Mike Clemens]
      #4689437 - 07/12/11 09:27 PM

HI

It would seem that these two great scope have not been compared in depth side by side on various objects to deterime if there are any real differences . A comparision would be nice to have maybe in a future TEC Festival with a TEC 140, TEC160 and TEC 180 to compare views .
If you are trying to decide between these 3 great scopes , I have not found any in depth reviews comparing them on visual performance .
Thank You


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Svezda
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Reged: 06/01/07

Loc: Texas
Re: TEC 140 vs. 160 new [Re: LLEEGE]
      #5528581 - 11/19/12 07:01 PM

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Some of my more memorable views were with the TEC160ED. You're going to enjoy it!



Me too...and also with the 140...so my plan to sell the 140 to cover most of the cost of the 160 didn't quite work out! My most memorable Jupiter observing session of my life was with the 140 but that was due to unprecedented (for me) dead still seeing conditions that I have never even come close to since. It was a revelation to me what a 5.5-inch scope could show on Jupiter. If I had more observing time I might have experienced something similar with the 160, but until I do I just can't let go of the perfect 140. The optics are just fantastic and the size is so convenient and easy to use. The 160, admittedly, is a lot more work to transport and set up.

Getting it balanced, also, is harder since due to the bulk and weight of the OTA, adjusting the tube within the rings to get the balance just right for any combination of eyepieces/turret/finders/diagonal is rather laborious. I will soon solve this problem with stainless weights at the rear of the OTA riding on a second set of TEC tube rings with TEC dovetail plates. This will allow much faster fine-tuning of the balance point plus will permanently shift the observing position from on the ground at zenith to maybe being able to sit in the lowest position of my Starbound observing chair.


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Svezda
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Reged: 06/01/07

Loc: Texas
Re: TEC 140 vs. 160 new [Re: gillmj24]
      #5528599 - 11/19/12 07:11 PM

Quote:

They regularly sell for 5000-5500 on the other site.



People tend to really undervalue the wonderful TEC140 and so sometimes some real bargains can be found. Paul is one who knows a more accurate value. I paid a /very/ nice price of $5300 + 1/2 shipping ($40) for one with rings in a very nice custom hard case (~$300 new). That would be ~$5000 for OTA and rings (very nice, btw) w/o case and I think that's a bargain. They certainly haven't reduced in value since I bought mine about five or six years ago (#286).


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Svezda
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Reged: 06/01/07

Loc: Texas
Re: TEC 140 vs. 160 new [Re: wormstar]
      #5528620 - 11/19/12 07:20 PM

Quote:

Enjoy it!! I love mine- I see yours is #4, mine is #6.
Keith



I've got TEC160ED No.020, purchased in March 2008.


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Svezda
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Reged: 06/01/07

Loc: Texas
Re: TEC 140 vs. 160 new [Re: Scott99]
      #5528630 - 11/19/12 07:24 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Sorry, I'm really having fun with these!




this is why I usually sell the old scope first!

you better get moving - watch out for the "Gollum" effect - a couple more days and you won't be able to sell the 140!



I don't know what this effect is, but I developed it as soon as I had the 160 home...I fully intended to sell the 140 to get the 160. That didn't happen and may never happen, as much as I love the 140. Nicest and second most-used scope I have ever owned. Most used scope? My Teleport 14.5-inch. Takes all of five minutes to set up in the driveway and collimate...but only bout two minutes if I leave it open and covered in the garage with wheels on instead of collapsed down into the main body of the scope.


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Paul G
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Reged: 05/08/03

Loc: Freedonia
Re: TEC 140 vs. 160 new [Re: polaristom]
      #5528759 - 11/19/12 08:37 PM

Quote:

Sorry, I'm really having fun with these!




Great picture!


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CounterWeight
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Reged: 10/05/08

Loc: Palo alto, CA.
Re: TEC 140 vs. 160 new [Re: Paul G]
      #5528791 - 11/19/12 08:55 PM

Quote:

I've got TEC160ED No.020, purchased in March 2008.




I've number 30 April '09. Fantastic scope, never compared to a 140 though.

Love the side by side of the 2 scopes - lucky you!

Unfortunately I did have to sell my TOA 130(s) to complete funding the transaction - but no regrets Was fortunate to have a shadow transit on Saturn... steady seeing right after purchase... a ZAOII 4mm and I was quite a happy camper.


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Rachel W
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Reged: 07/10/12

Re: TEC 140 vs. 160 new [Re: Svezda]
      #5529280 - 11/20/12 01:36 AM

Quote:

Quote:

They regularly sell for 5000-5500 on the other site.



People tend to really undervalue the wonderful TEC140 and so sometimes some real bargains can be found. Paul is one who knows a more accurate value. I paid a /very/ nice price of $5300 + 1/2 shipping ($40) for one with rings in a very nice custom hard case (~$300 new). That would be ~$5000 for OTA and rings (very nice, btw) w/o case and I think that's a bargain. They certainly haven't reduced in value since I bought mine about five or six years ago (#286).




I bought a 2011 TEC-140 used late this summer with rings, finder/mount and a nice metal storage box - it's beautiful and awesome to view through. Paid $5,300 and shipping was included.

The owner was moving up to a Tec-180! I can't imagine the view through that sweet thing, but still an all the 140 is just terrific and Yuri is a delight to deal with.

Rachel


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Ziggy943
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Reged: 08/11/06

Loc: Utah
Re: TEC 140 vs. 160 new [Re: Rachel W]
      #5530000 - 11/20/12 12:10 PM

TEC's are wonderful scopes.

160 ED #001


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saemark30
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Reged: 02/21/12

Re: TEC 140 vs. 160 new [Re: Mike Clemens]
      #5530343 - 11/20/12 02:47 PM

Is this only for Jupiter or will Mars and Saturn show much difference between the 140 and 160?
Quote:

The 160 is really going to deliver on the planets. Yuri and "Sky and Telescope" both downplay the difference between 140mm and 160mm but I think you will easily notice it. (Depending on observing habits.) Spend consistent time on Jupiter this Winter and you are going to be amazed. I am hoping for a heavy visual Winter after several years of photos only.




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Tom and Beth
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Reged: 01/08/07

Loc: Tucson, AZ
Re: TEC 140 vs. 160 new [Re: saemark30]
      #5531432 - 11/21/12 01:27 AM

I REALLY like my TEC 140, but it is probably a good thing that the temptation of getting a 160 or larger is overcome by the element Unobtainium.

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Ziggy943
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Reged: 08/11/06

Loc: Utah
Re: TEC 140 vs. 160 new [Re: Tom and Beth]
      #5531434 - 11/21/12 01:33 AM

There is very little between the 140 and 160. I have viewed with them side by side on planets. The view of Saturn is slightly better, Cassini's is slightly easier to see and has better contrast. There is not a WOW difference.

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AlbertoJ
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Reged: 02/20/08

Loc: Madrid (EspaƱa)
Re: TEC 140 vs. 160 new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #5533510 - 11/22/12 08:19 AM

Quote:

There is very little between the 140 and 160. I have viewed with them side by side on planets. The view of Saturn is slightly better, Cassini's is slightly easier to see and has better contrast. There is not a WOW difference.




And what“s about deep sky observation? Has anyone compared them in DSO?


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vahe
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Reged: 08/27/05

Loc: Houston, Texas
Re: TEC 140 vs. 160 new [Re: polaristom]
      #5533551 - 11/22/12 08:57 AM

Now,

If Yuri would make me a 160 F/9 fluorite triplet, that would be my dream visual scope. F/9 is the sweet spot for apo design, they are essentially perfect.

I know, I am dreaming.

Vahe


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