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bremms
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Reged: 08/31/12

Loc: SC

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[Re: Illinois]
#5614262 - 01/09/13 06:42 PM

For a really fine handmade instrument.. $35k is not a lot of money. I think we are too used to telescope prices from mass production. $35k is a lot of money and I wouldn't spend that n a scope. But I can understand why somebody would. I think +5k for an 80mm Zeiss is more out of line. Great scope but not that rare. A 5" D&G will eat it for breakfast with room left over. It's all about what it's worth to someone. I'm a bit of a car guy and have some friends with some great collections. (Mostly Italian exotics)Went to an picnic a couple years ago at somone's house. He had a Ferrari Enzo and Mclaren F1 just sitting there.. Doesn't drive them. What is the point? My buddy and I were sad. Two of the most fabulous road cars ever made and you don't drive them? Went to another event at Road Atlanta where the CFO of microsoft had a 250 GTO and Fangio's GP car. Flogging them and I mean flogging them on the track.. nice guy too. We were talking about how Enzo would be happy that the cars were being used.

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Mike Clemens
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Reged: 11/26/05

Loc: Alaska, USA

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[Re: MrGrytt]
#5614320 - 01/09/13 07:16 PM

Hey Harvey

Where do you see prices on lens alone?

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MrGrytt
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Reged: 07/28/05

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[Re: Mike Clemens]
#5614391 - 01/09/13 07:51 PM

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Hey Harvey

Where do you see prices on lens alone?

On the APM site.

http://tinyurl.com/bz2rhy7

Once you select a specific item it will also show you the export price in Euros. Then you have to multiply it by today's exchange rate, which right now is 1.3055.

Harvey

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Mike Clemens
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[Re: MrGrytt]
#5614799 - 01/10/13 01:08 AM

Wow! 4500 euro * 1.3 for a 130 f6 lens in cell... $5800...
Was $2600 when I bought one ten years ago. Not a good trend !!

I guess if I ever build a scope for old times sake it will be a 100/8. (Which I love.)

I see those prices "inkl. 19 % MwSt. zzgl. Versandkosten"

Maybe people in America don't pay that.

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Mark9473
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Reged: 07/21/05

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[Re: Mike Clemens]
#5614915 - 01/10/13 05:17 AM

Like Harvey said, look for the export price, 3777 euro in this case.

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Napersky
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#5615009 - 01/10/13 08:03 AM

My recently aquired AP 152mm Superplanetary with Losmandy G11 mount for $5,000 from Gary Hands, HandsonOptics is quite a good price. Gary said it was a "steal." Subtract $1250 for the mount and a 6" AP APO for $3,750! Stellarview charges over $10,000 for a new 6".

Mark

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Starhawk
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Reged: 09/16/08

Loc: Tucson, Arizona

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[Re: Napersky]
#5615177 - 01/10/13 10:14 AM

See if you can get Perkin Elmer to quote making an instrument to that spec and see what it costs before you say this is outrageous.

-Rich

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bremms
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[Re: Starhawk]
#5615501 - 01/10/13 01:05 PM

Exactly.

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MrGrytt
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[Re: Joe C]
#5615974 - 01/10/13 06:09 PM

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Harvey, You can just have them ship me yours. When mine is ready, they can send it to you. I have been eagerly waiting for mine to be finished and shipped.

Just so you know, they won't delay shipping so I guess you won't be able to move up in the line. Not sure why they wouldn't delay it but that was their final word.

Sounds like they have glass out for coating that they are waiting on. Probably a few will be shipping soon if that is the case.

Harvey

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clintwhitman
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#5618461 - 01/12/13 04:55 AM

I am feeling pretty good about my 228mm F10 Astro Physics APO right about now

(aveman

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maknewtnut
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Reged: 10/08/06

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[Re: clintwhitman]
#5618945 - 01/12/13 12:08 PM

Don't remind of us that find ever again Clint.

You lucky stiff! I'm glad it went to someone deserving.

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Jeff B
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[Re: Mike Clemens]
#5619633 - 01/12/13 06:48 PM

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> That 'one point' I was referring to was when the
> TMB-LZOS 175/1400's were selling for around $12-14K.

I undercut that by building the OTA myself. Paid $7900 for the TMB175/8 lens new in 2004. Built the tube for about $2000: http://www.pbase.com/mclemens1969/tmb175_construction_pics
Took a healthy loss on sale due to people having fear of a homebuilt tube. Someone got a killer deal.

Mike:

I see two lens serial numbers, 043 & 048, in your pictures. Did you build two scopes?

I just picked up a 175 F8 with lens serial 041 yesterday. It's in good condition but it has been around the block a bit. It's the same one reviewed here on CN back in 2004. It's a bit of a beast.

Jeff

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Mike Clemens
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[Re: Jeff B]
#5619642 - 01/12/13 06:53 PM

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> That 'one point' I was referring to was when the
> TMB-LZOS 175/1400's were selling for around $12-14K.

I undercut that by building the OTA myself. Paid $7900 for the TMB175/8 lens new in 2004. Built the tube for about $2000: http://www.pbase.com/mclemens1969/tmb175_construction_pics
Took a healthy loss on sale due to people having fear of a homebuilt tube. Someone got a killer deal.

Mike:

I see two lens serial numbers, 043 & 048, in your pictures. Did you build two scopes?

I just picked up a 175 F8 with lens serial 041 yesterday. It's in good condition but it has been around the block a bit. It's the same one reviewed here on CN back in 2004. It's a bit of a beast.

Jeff

#43 had 2 waves of coma on arrival and went back to Thomas Back. #48 was the replacement. Congrats on your scope. A bit of a beast but the views are incredible.

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Jeff B
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Reged: 12/30/06

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#5619809 - 01/12/13 09:06 PM Attachment (16 downloads)

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Quote:

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> That 'one point' I was referring to was when the
> TMB-LZOS 175/1400's were selling for around $12-14K.

I undercut that by building the OTA myself. Paid $7900 for the TMB175/8 lens new in 2004. Built the tube for about $2000: http://www.pbase.com/mclemens1969/tmb175_construction_pics
Took a healthy loss on sale due to people having fear of a homebuilt tube. Someone got a killer deal.

Mike:

I see two lens serial numbers, 043 & 048, in your pictures. Did you build two scopes?

I just picked up a 175 F8 with lens serial 041 yesterday. It's in good condition but it has been around the block a bit. It's the same one reviewed here on CN back in 2004. It's a bit of a beast.

Jeff

#43 had 2 waves of coma on arrival and went back to Thomas Back. #48 was the replacement. Congrats on your scope. A bit of a beast but the views are incredible.

Mike:

Interesting. Sounds like the center element was displaced. Did Tom say what it was?

Here are pictures of the 175 F8. Oh my aching G11.

Jeff

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Jeff B
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#5619817 - 01/12/13 09:12 PM Attachment (22 downloads)

It "only" took 44 pounds of counterweights, 11 fewer than it takes for the C14 which the G11 handled just fine. I used the Parallax rings for the main support and one of the stock rings for the finder (60MM F5) and counterpoise weight on the ring bottom. It really needs the extra weight in the back end there. Not sure when first light will be.

Jeff

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Mike Clemens
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[Re: Jeff B]
#5621558 - 01/13/13 08:13 PM

Such a nice setup Jeff.

Yes, Tom said one of the elements was out of place, I assume the center since the ends are affixed to the back and front of the cells with adhesive strips.

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