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coz
sage


Reged: 08/25/10

Re: AP 175 new [Re: vahe]
      #5489850 - 10/26/12 08:53 AM

How would you compare the AP160 and AP175 visually?

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MrGrytt
scholastic sledgehammer


Reged: 07/28/05

Loc: Upstate New York
Re: AP 175 new [Re: Joe C]
      #5490253 - 10/26/12 01:36 PM Attachment (113 downloads)

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Well, I finally got some idea of the size of this thing. My rings and adapters showed up today. They make 14" dovetails look short.

My scope is on the October delivery list. Now all I need is some of Roland's magic




This will give you a decent idea of the size. The front case holds an AP 130 f/8.35 and the rear case holds a TMB 175 f/8.

Harvey


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Paul Hyndman
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Reged: 07/13/04

Loc: Connecticut Shoreline USA
Re: AP 175 new [Re: MrGrytt]
      #5490587 - 10/26/12 05:24 PM Attachment (117 downloads)

Since inquiring minds wanna' know, here's a shot of the 175 and 160 side-by-side, dew shields retracted. FWIW, the 175 is definitely at this old geezers limit of portability.

Paul


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David PavlichAdministrator
Transmographied
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Reged: 05/18/05

Loc: Mandeville, LA USA
Re: AP 175 new [Re: Paul Hyndman]
      #5490650 - 10/26/12 06:07 PM

Quote:

Since inquiring minds wanna' know, here's a shot of the 175 and 160 side-by-side, dew shields retracted. FWIW, the 175 is definitely at this old geezers limit of portability.

Paul




That picture needs a pop can or something to give some perspective. You get past a 6" refractor and it really does take up a lot of space.

David


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JJK
Carpal Tunnel


Reged: 04/28/08

Re: AP 175 new [Re: vahe]
      #5490843 - 10/26/12 08:37 PM

Quote:

Quote:


I've been very impressed with the AP 175 f/8. Visually, Jupiter looks superb, with pure white whites, and excellent contrast of surface features.





What I am interested in hearing is how the 175 compares to 180EDT on Jupiter.

Vahe




Hi Vahe,

Until a few weeks ago, I had both. Unfortunately, I didn't get a chance to truly critically compare them.

Best,
John


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Mike Clemens
Frozen to Eyepiece
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Reged: 11/26/05

Loc: Alaska, USA
Re: AP 175 new [Re: JJK]
      #5492456 - 10/27/12 11:41 PM

NICE Paul

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Dwight56
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Reged: 04/17/10

Re: AP 175 new [Re: Mike Clemens]
      #5492970 - 10/28/12 11:20 AM Attachment (122 downloads)

I setup last night for my 1st light with my AP 175. Viewed Uranus, Neptune, M13, Moon really bright, Alberio, M42, M45, Jupiter all kinds of detail in the bands, the moons revealed themselves as tiny disks, Double Star Sirius, Adhara, Rigel, Propus, Open Clusters M35 the nicest considering the light Pollution M36, M37, M38 were also viewed. Eyepieces used were my 40mm University 7 70, 26mm nagler 13mm Ethos AP 12mm and 5 mm SPL and my ZAO II 6mm and 10mm, Did not try my Baader Bino Viewer maybe tonight. oh last thing, as this picture was being taken viewing regulus in the daytime.

Edited by Dwight56 (10/28/12 11:24 AM)


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jmiele
Patron Saint?
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Reged: 12/04/10

Re: AP 175 new [Re: Dwight56]
      #5493232 - 10/28/12 03:20 PM

Looks wonderful on there! Gratz again.. Joe

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Alan French
Night Owl
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Reged: 01/28/05

Loc: Upstate NY
Re: AP 175 new [Re: jmiele]
      #5493320 - 10/28/12 04:20 PM

Dwight,

Who makes the trip you have it on?

Thanks, and clear skies, Alan


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vahe
professor emeritus


Reged: 08/27/05

Loc: Houston, Texas
Re: AP 175 new [Re: Dwight56]
      #5493335 - 10/28/12 04:31 PM

Dwight,

Who makes the tripod in your setup?

Vahe


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Rich V.
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Reged: 01/02/05

Loc: Lake Tahoe area, Nevada, USA
Re: AP 175 new [Re: vahe]
      #5493382 - 10/28/12 05:09 PM

Looks like this one; Particle Wave Monolith.

Rich


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Dwight56
member


Reged: 04/17/10

Re: AP 175 new [Re: Rich V.]
      #5493640 - 10/28/12 08:18 PM

Its my my Trusty Partical Wave monolith I've had this portable Pier almost for 10 years now. I was one of the 1st people to get one.

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gillmj24
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Reged: 12/06/05

Loc: PA
Re: AP 175 new [Re: Dwight56]
      #5493759 - 10/28/12 09:39 PM

I hope nobody's new 175 is the reason for new scope curse causing Sandy to make a left turn right over my house this week. It certainly wasnt me! Stay safe in the storm everyone!

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Dwight56
member


Reged: 04/17/10

Re: AP 175 new [Re: gillmj24]
      #5493788 - 10/28/12 09:59 PM

I'm in Phoenix Arizona. Right now Tonight and tomorrow night according to the Clear Sky Clock we are having a bout of really good seeing for most of the state. Too bad the moon is in the way.

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Paul G
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Reged: 05/08/03

Loc: Freedonia
Re: AP 175 new [Re: gillmj24]
      #5493819 - 10/28/12 10:27 PM

Quote:

I hope nobody's new 175 is the reason for new scope curse causing Sandy to make a left turn right over my house this week. It certainly wasnt me! Stay safe in the storm everyone!




Sorry, my bad! We've battened down the hatches here. Makes me nervous, Ernesto badly damaged our house in 2006, we were out of it for a full year while it was being rebuilt (with a natural gas full house generator ).


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Starhawk
Space Ranger
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Reged: 09/16/08

Loc: Tucson, Arizona
Re: AP 175 new [Re: Paul G]
      #5493896 - 10/28/12 11:40 PM

Don't leave the AP175 in a low spot!

And keep a hatchet in your attic. It'll seem silly until you need it with 30 seconds' notice.

-Rich


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M13 Observer
scholastic sledgehammer


Reged: 12/09/06

Re: AP 175 new [Re: Dwight56]
      #5493995 - 10/29/12 01:13 AM

Quote:

I setup last night for my 1st light with my AP 175. Viewed Uranus, Neptune, M13, Moon really bright, Alberio, M42, M45, Jupiter all kinds of detail in the bands, the moons revealed themselves as tiny disks, Double Star Sirius, Adhara, Rigel, Propus, Open Clusters M35 the nicest considering the light Pollution M36, M37, M38 were also viewed. Eyepieces used were my 40mm University 7 70, 26mm nagler 13mm Ethos AP 12mm and 5 mm SPL and my ZAO II 6mm and 10mm, Did not try my Baader Bino Viewer maybe tonight. oh last thing, as this picture was being taken viewing regulus in the daytime.




Very pretty Monolith! Did Shahin make the tray and tray bar or is that an Astro-Physics retrofit?


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Dwight56
member


Reged: 04/17/10

Re: AP 175 new [Re: M13 Observer]
      #5494010 - 10/29/12 01:31 AM

Those are Astro Physics support bar and tray. I just attached the support bar to one of the locking bolts on the PWT pier. I used masking tape on the support bar to prevent scratching and marring of the pier. The pier is clear coated.

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M13 Observer
scholastic sledgehammer


Reged: 12/09/06

Re: AP 175 new [Re: Dwight56]
      #5494434 - 10/29/12 10:57 AM Attachment (60 downloads)

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Those are Astro Physics support bar and tray. I just attached the support bar to one of the locking bolts on the PWT pier. I used masking tape on the support bar to prevent scratching and marring of the pier. The pier is clear coated.




Mine was virtually identical but I had the large pad feet and quick release azimuth adjusting knobs, but without the AP trays on it. Good idea for sure. Although it is the best tripod I have ever owned, the weight eventually forced me to sell it off. I tired of hauling the AP1200 around to and from an observing site 60 miles away from home on suitable weekend nights after the first three uses. I put my name on the AP900 list and within 3 or 4 years I had an AP900 to replace it for portable use. I kept the AP1200 and my original AP 10" portable pier hoping to have a place I could set it up relatively permanently. Your 175 sure looks nice on the 1200 and Monolith. Here is my setup prior to selling off the Monolith.

Edited by M13 Observer (10/29/12 11:11 AM)


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Dwight56
member


Reged: 04/17/10

Re: AP 175 new [Re: vahe]
      #5500414 - 11/02/12 05:20 AM

As I recall Rolands pricing reflected the idea he wanted to give premium optics to those who would not normally be able to afford such telescopes. The flippers in the past pretty much killed off that notion. The price of the grand Torismo being almost double what the original 130 F6 sold for pretty much ended the flipper strategy of making a killing on his telescopes. I have been offered high prices for my other AP scopes including my AP 175 but I'm not budging simply because I enjoy using Roland's scopes and I'm in a good enough financial position that I will never have to sell my scopes out of desparation. Now if the dollar collapes I don't think its going to matter anyway's, at least I'll have my AP scopes.

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