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Jon Isaacs
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Lunt ED Refractors
      #5383937 - 08/24/12 03:49 AM

I was browsing Astromart and noticed that Lunt Engineering seems to be now importing three ED refractors, a 70mm F/6 ($399), an 80mm F/7 ($449) and the 102mm F/7 ($729.)

Nominally, these look like the typical Asian FPL-51/FK-61 ED doublets at very good prices. The 102 mm appears to be essentially the same scope as the AT-102ED, Orion "Premium" 102ED and the SV-102ED. The 102ED photo shows a thumbscrew to keep the dewshield from sliding down, a common problem with these scopes.

Lunt ED Refractors at AT&WB

These look like a ray of sunshine for those who have mourned the death of the affordable ED doublets.

Jon


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Re: Lunt ED Refractors new [Re: Jon Isaacs]
      #5384007 - 08/24/12 05:51 AM

Especially since Lunt has proven themselves to be a quality company, it's good to have more choices out there!

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Re: Lunt ED Refractors new [Re: Scott in NC]
      #5384045 - 08/24/12 07:07 AM

When other Lunt dealers update their websites I'm sure you'll be able to buy it elsewhere, hopefully.

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Re: Lunt ED Refractors new [Re: Jon Isaacs]
      #5384132 - 08/24/12 09:04 AM

Quote:

I was browsing Astromart and noticed that Lunt Engineering seems to be now importing three ED refractors, a 70mm F/6 ($399), an 80mm F/7 ($449) and the 102mm F/7 ($729.)

Nominally, these look like the typical Asian FPL-51/FK-61 ED doublets at very good prices. The 102 mm appears to be essentially the same scope as the AT-102ED, Orion "Premium" 102ED and the SV-102ED. The 102ED photo shows a thumbscrew to keep the dewshield from sliding down, a common problem with these scopes.

Lunt ED Refractors at AT&WB

These look like a ray of sunshine for those who have mourned the death of the affordable ED doublets.

Jon




thanks jon

great news indeed. i was looking to replace my ES 80mm with a 102mm scope but was left with no alternative since ES has replaced their triplet by a carbon scope which will probably be more expensive needlessly.

this scope is in fact great news for many of us.


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Re: Lunt ED Refractors new [Re: coutleef]
      #5384213 - 08/24/12 10:00 AM

Too bad they stopped there. At those prices, a 5" ed doublet for $1000-1150 would be great. And/or a 6" for $1800-2000. But, a 4"ed doublet for $750 is a great deal.

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Re: Lunt ED Refractors new [Re: gillmj24]
      #5384222 - 08/24/12 10:05 AM

Quote:

When other Lunt dealers update their websites I'm sure you'll be able to buy it elsewhere, hopefully.



Why wouldn't you just buy from anacortes? The only reason i don't buy from them very often is that i am local.


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Re: Lunt ED Refractors new [Re: Sean Puett]
      #5384267 - 08/24/12 10:27 AM

They are talking white light and CaK. I wonder if that means they have a tailored color correction for blue. The results could be interesting all around if they do.

-Rich


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Re: Lunt ED Refractors new [Re: Starhawk]
      #5385559 - 08/25/12 12:12 AM

I've been thinking about a 72mm for a while and Astronomics seems like the best deal around. So, why would I buy a Lunt 70mm for more money, a single focuser and no metal case? Is it something to do with solar viewing?

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Re: Lunt ED Refractors new [Re: carlcat]
      #5385591 - 08/25/12 12:43 AM

I wouldn't argue that the AT72 isn't a better deal. Free shipping plus a hard case,plus we get to purchase from our sponsor.

This Lunt 72mm does appear to have a 2 speed focuser,though.


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Re: Lunt ED Refractors new [Re: KWB]
      #5385783 - 08/25/12 04:19 AM

Last weekend we're able to use a 230mm F/7 Lunt Solar LS230T/PT refractor, it's by far the world’s largest production Solar telescope. Amazing views of our Sun

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Re: Lunt ED Refractors new [Re: carlcat]
      #5385842 - 08/25/12 06:00 AM

Quote:

I've been thinking about a 72mm for a while and Astronomics seems like the best deal around. So, why would I buy a Lunt 70mm for more money, a single focuser and no metal case? Is it something to do with solar viewing?




The Lunt 70mm doesn't look like the good deal the other two are, maybe it's a misprint because it's only $50 less than the 80mm. I don't know what scopes you currently own but I find 70mm is not enough, 80mm is enough. A couple other points:

- They all have two speed focusers.

- The 70mm has a soft case. I like soft cases more than hard cases... You might not.

I am not buying one, I've got a good 80mm and a good 101mm. But for someone looking for an affordable ED refractor, the 80mm and 102mm look like the best deals around.

Jon


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Re: Lunt ED Refractors new [Re: Jon Isaacs]
      #5482721 - 10/21/12 09:37 PM

Anything more on these? I cannot find anything but the basic information...are they available now? Does anyone have one he or she can comment on? I would like a nice 80mm ed for my C=14 actually for a finder.

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Re: Lunt ED Refractors new [Re: charlesgeiger]
      #5483327 - 10/22/12 10:05 AM

i have a 102mm on order and habe seen one in a store. they seem well built and the focuser is pretty much like the es scopes.

once i have mine, i will write a short report but not on the 80 but the 102mm


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Re: Lunt ED Refractors new [Re: coutleef]
      #5483386 - 10/22/12 10:42 AM

Lunt is supposed to be at ASAE next month. I'll have to see what they have on display in this area.

-Rich


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Re: Lunt ED Refractors new [Re: Starhawk]
      #5491886 - 10/27/12 04:12 PM

I am receiving mine this week. Because of the Frankenstorm, there will be a delay for the evaluation, but i will give my impression on the 102 ED

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Re: Lunt ED Refractors new [Re: coutleef]
      #5492502 - 10/28/12 12:19 AM

If you're in a low lying area, put a hatchet in your attic.

-Rich


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Re: Lunt ED Refractors new [Re: coutleef]
      #5503096 - 11/03/12 10:16 PM

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I am receiving mine this week. Because of the Frankenstorm, there will be a delay for the evaluation, but i will give my impression on the 102 ED




Have you had a chance to use the 102 yet? Looks like a lot of scope for the money.


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Re: Lunt ED Refractors new [Re: KevH]
      #5504299 - 11/04/12 05:55 PM

Quote:

Quote:

I am receiving mine this week. Because of the Frankenstorm, there will be a delay for the evaluation, but i will give my impression on the 102 ED




Have you had a chance to use the 102 yet? Looks like a lot of scope for the money.




Not yet i am supposed to receive it this week


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Re: Lunt ED Refractors new [Re: coutleef]
      #5534341 - 11/22/12 07:14 PM

Hi Francois
Have you finally received your Lunt Doublet?
I am considering a similar purchase (either the 70mm or 80mm) for a trip in December.


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Re: Lunt ED Refractors new [Re: pdeschen]
      #5534522 - 11/22/12 09:48 PM

Quote:

Hi Francois
Have you finally received your Lunt Doublet?
I am considering a similar purchase (either the 70mm or 80mm) for a trip in December.




Just posted an evaluation of it.


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Re: Lunt ED Refractors new [Re: pdeschen]
      #5535033 - 11/23/12 08:48 AM

Quote:

Hi Francois
Have you finally received your Lunt Doublet?
I am considering a similar purchase (either the 70mm or 80mm) for a trip in December.




i saw a 70mm at my dealer. it is in a nice soft case that ca contain accessories. it is so small and ligth. really nice for travel. i did not see the 80.

good luck


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Re: Lunt ED Refractors new [Re: coutleef]
      #5536265 - 11/23/12 09:05 PM

Hi Francois,
Read your review. Great work!
BTW - who is your dealer? I would love to see a 70 or 80 mm and weight them.
Thanks


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Re: Lunt ED Refractors new [Re: pdeschen]
      #5537058 - 11/24/12 11:13 AM

Quote:

Hi Francois,
Read your review. Great work!
BTW - who is your dealer? I would love to see a 70 or 80 mm and weight them.
Thanks




i bougth it at lire la nature


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Re: Lunt ED Refractors new [Re: coutleef]
      #5537452 - 11/24/12 04:02 PM

Was your telescope available off the shelf? Or did you have to wait for it? Did you have to pay shipping?
Thank you,
Charlie Geiger


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Re: Lunt ED Refractors new [Re: charlesgeiger]
      #5537829 - 11/24/12 08:49 PM

i had to wait for it. it was shipped to my dealer so shipping was included in the price

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Re: Lunt ED Refractors new [Re: Jon Isaacs]
      #5538169 - 11/25/12 01:39 AM

Thanks Jon, I was going to get an AT72 sometime soon, but that 80mm has me rethinking.

Eric


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Re: Lunt ED Refractors new [Re: coutleef]
      #5828167 - 04/28/13 11:46 AM

Francois,

Where is your evaluation of this 'scope posted?

Doug


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Re: Lunt ED Refractors new [Re: Rainguy]
      #5828595 - 04/28/13 03:19 PM

Quote:

Francois,

Where is your evaluation of this 'scope posted?

Doug




Just google for "First impression of the Lunt 102 ed" if the link below doesn't work for some reason.

web page


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Re: Lunt ED Refractors new [Re: carlcat]
      #5828602 - 04/28/13 03:22 PM

Quote:

I've been thinking about a 72mm for a while and Astronomics seems like the best deal around. So, why would I buy a Lunt 70mm for more money, a single focuser and no metal case? Is it something to do with solar viewing?



No, I would say that is just marketing. But just judging from the prices of the three Lunt refractors, I think my question would be: why buy the 70mm when the 80mm is just $50 more?


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Re: Lunt ED Refractors new [Re: David E]
      #5828931 - 04/28/13 07:10 PM

Quote:

Quote:

I've been thinking about a 72mm for a while and Astronomics seems like the best deal around. So, why would I buy a Lunt 70mm for more money, a single focuser and no metal case? Is it something to do with solar viewing?



No, I would say that is just marketing. But just judging from the prices of the three Lunt refractors, I think my question would be: why buy the 70mm when the 80mm is just $50 more?




That never made sense to me either. Good prices on the 80mm and the 102ED though.

Jon


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Re: Lunt ED Refractors new [Re: David E]
      #5829983 - 04/29/13 11:43 AM

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No, I would say that is just marketing. But just judging from the prices of the three Lunt refractors, I think my question would be: why buy the 70mm when the 80mm is just $50 more?




The 70mm is much more compact than the 80mm (420mm FL vs 560mm). If size is a premium, then why spend an extra $50 for only 10mm additional aperture while increasing the OTA length by over 5"?


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Re: Lunt ED Refractors new [Re: Thomas Karpf]
      #5830247 - 04/29/13 01:39 PM

Quote:

Quote:

No, I would say that is just marketing. But just judging from the prices of the three Lunt refractors, I think my question would be: why buy the 70mm when the 80mm is just $50 more?




The 70mm is much more compact than the 80mm (420mm FL vs 560mm). If size is a premium, then why spend an extra $50 for only 10mm additional aperture while increasing the OTA length by over 5"?




I think the issues is that the Lunt 80mm at $450 is a real bargain in comparison to what else is available. At $400, the 70mm Lunt is competing against scopes like that AT-72ED which are somewhat less expensive.

Jon


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Re: Lunt ED Refractors new [Re: Jon Isaacs]
      #5830922 - 04/29/13 07:04 PM

Canadian Telescopes has both the 70&80mm ED listed at $419.99CDN with free shipping. Not sure if it's an error nor have I ever dealt with them.

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Re: Lunt ED Refractors new [Re: Tatooine]
      #5886266 - 05/26/13 09:47 PM

How long are the 70mm and 80mm Lunt refractors?

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Re: Lunt ED Refractors new [Re: FishInPercolator]
      #6084102 - 09/16/13 02:56 PM

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How long are the 70mm and 80mm Lunt refractors?




Lunt Engineering 70mm ED Doublet - LE70 OTA

* F/6
* Focal Length: 420mm
* Fully multi-coated lenses
* 10:1 Crayford Style Focuser
* 2" to 1.25" reducer
* Diagonal not included
* Soft side carrying case with fitted foam


Lunt Engineering 80mm ED Doublet - LE80 OTA

* F/7
* Focal Length: 560mm
* Fully multi-coated lenses
* 10:1 Crayford Style Focuser
* 2" to 1.25" reducer
* Diagonal not included
* Hard side carrying case with fitted foam


Lunt Engineering 102mm ED Doublet - LE102 OTA

* F/7
* Focal Length: 714mm
* Fully multi-coated lenses
* 10:1 Crayford Style Focuser
* 2" to 1.25" reducer
* Diagonal not included
* Hard side carrying case with fitted foam


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Re: Lunt ED Refractors new [Re: audioaficionado]
      #6085075 - 09/16/13 11:52 PM

I have the 80mm Lunt I purchased about 6 months ago through Anacortes. It has high quality paint and anodizing...first thing I noticed. I bought an ADM male/female adaptor to mount it on my C-14. I can also mount it on a friend's borrowed Versago 11. I bought a 3" extension and then a 2"dialectric quartz diagonal for it. The storage box is good quality; good enough for long term storage. Yes, it does not have extra space in it for oculars or diagonal. After using a 2" 32mm UO with it originally with the 3" extension, I was well impressed with the scope. It has great contrast. I have also used the 20mm ES100 and a UO MK-70 with this unit. I was so impressed with the excellent optics and contrast I purchased the above diagonal. When I received the scope, I too noticed one of the three allen screws around the focuser was missing...I heard a slight rattle within the focuser and and decided to take the focuser off and inside was the screw. So, after purchasing the 3" extension for about $30.00, and the diagonal for $120.00, the price was near $600.00. If I have the first quarter to full moon in the ocular, I do see some color if I am not looking right on axis. But on axis there is no color. In an ill-fated trip to the OSP this past August (horrible weather), the first night I got about 30 to 45 minutes with the scope. I used the 32mm and 40mm MK-70 to trace the North American which was easy. The western part of the veil was easy and I just found it by scanning the field. On another occasion, I put in a Televue 2.4 barlow with an old 16.3mm Galoc and looked at Saturn. It was low in the south and west but put up an excellent image with equatorial banding and Cassini's very evident. This suprised me. I have looked through many achromats in the 2.4" to 4.25" f/15 Jaegers I used to have and never saw the level of contrast I see with this 80mm. I purchased and assembled the Jaegers in the 70's and probably didn't have it baffled as well...it too was an excellent scope. Also, being f/15, it could not give me the wide field this little Lunt does.
I am very satisifed with this instrument as I was mainly looking for a 'finder' for my big scope as my glaucoma and cataract surgery leaves the standard old 40mm finder somewhat lacking. On the Lunt, the dew shield just slides forward and back and has no screw retainer. The scope has a metal cap for the front lens for which I will need to add a little more felt as it will not always stay on especially with scope pointed straight down.
Stars are pinpoint and pure in color as best I can tell. Doubles separate nicely as power increases...such as the double double.
I have not compared it to a triplet nor even another ED doublet. But I am well pleased. I have not seen the blue violet rings around bright objects as was the case with 4 to 6 inch achromats I have used to f/15.
This scope may not compare to a 3 element or fluorite refractor but I bet it is darn close. Also, with 40mm 70degree ocular, the AFOV is huge. Again, I can't say the color correction is perfect, but it is certainly very good and I expect this unit could be used for photography (probably with a field flattener). It is f/7 and the tube length is short and it is maybe 6 or 7 pounds. The two speed focuser is smooth and holds the diagonal and oculars fine with no apparent flexure or slipping. The focuser rotates 360 and locks in rotation and focusing in/out. Locks have nylon internal tips. Collimation appears right on.


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Re: Lunt ED Refractors new [Re: coutleef]
      #6421950 - 03/22/14 10:41 AM

I have the 102ED f7 and am amazed by the build quality and lack of CA. My only gripe is the foam insert in the metal case - too tight a fit and no cutouts for accessories. It comes with tube rings, and a Vixen dovetail bar. Absolutely recommended!

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Re: Lunt ED Refractors new [Re: J Brant]
      #6422063 - 03/22/14 11:54 AM

I concur with what Jim said. I can see only a very faint greenish (to me) CA on very bright targets like the Moon and the build quality is indeed impressive for the price. I too noticed how tight a fit the foam insert is.

Here are many pics I posted when I got my Lunt last summer, so you can judge and see how long the OTA is. The OTA + dove tail weigh a little less than 9 lbs.

http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=5979979&...


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Re: Lunt ED Refractors new [Re: dennilfloss]
      #6422120 - 03/22/14 12:29 PM

I have the 80mm f7 branded as a Stellarvue and agree with most of what has been said. Mine does show a little false color if you start pushing the magninication. It remains incredibly sharp and contrasty though. These scopes definitely have pretty good lenses in them. Great build quality as well. The Lunt's, particularly the 80 and 102, seem like bargains for what you get.

My 80mm...


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Re: Lunt ED Refractors new [Re: KevH]
      #6422454 - 03/22/14 01:20 PM

I was not aware Lunt made an 80mm ED scope, very interesting. $50 less than the ED80, and what looks to be a far superior build quality + a dual-speed crayford. With a 2" 30mm eyepiece, I could almost reach the 4° delivered by my ST80...

Bah, why did I have to click on this topic.


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Re: Lunt ED Refractors new [Re: Jon Isaacs]
      #6422458 - 03/22/14 01:22 PM

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I think the issues is that the Lunt 80mm at $450 is a real bargain in comparison to what else is available. At $400, the 70mm Lunt is competing against scopes like that AT-72ED which are somewhat less expensive.

Jon




Indeed. The price level on the 80 mm - and even more so on the 102 mm - represents quite an amazing offer. Doing the math, it appears that both are sold for $ 57.60 per square inch of aperture. A coincidence, probably. But just imagine this price level being extended to larger apertures. Would translate into a 120 mm ED available for around $ 1,000. Now that would be a steal!


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Re: Lunt ED Refractors new [Re: Tatooine]
      #6422584 - 03/22/14 02:19 PM

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Canadian Telescopes has both the 70&80mm ED listed at $419.99CDN with free shipping. Not sure if it's an error nor have I ever dealt with them.





Not any more, prices have gone up with a bang,70ED is $454, the 80ED is now $540,the 102ED is $810, the Canadian dollar drop is some of the reason, no problems with the company , very good to deal with, shipping is free but the costs they absorb is passed on to the consumer in the price, IMHO, DA.


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Re: Lunt ED Refractors new [Re: Jon Isaacs]
      #6422738 - 03/22/14 03:00 PM

I believe the Lunt refractors are made by Kumning United Optical as can be found here
I have an Orion branded 110mm ED doublet, and am impressed with the performance/cost value.
While it's not up to the quality of a 4 inch Televue it's a wonderful performer showing only minor color on the brightest of objects.
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Re: Lunt ED Refractors new [Re: stevew]
      #6424379 - 03/23/14 10:42 AM

I asked Lunt and they confirmed that it is made by Kunming. Optics and cell are interchangeable with my Orion Premium 102ED. Probably the same as used by Skylight.

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