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The Ardent
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D&G 5" f/12 on Astromart
      #5647112 - 01/27/13 10:42 PM

Hello

I saw this and almost bought it...but I dont need it. D&G makes the best achromat.(Please dont start a flame war over my opinion) Instant classics. These scopes are hand made with love and attention to detail. Look at the machining on the lens cell. This appears to be an older model by the focuser.

I used to have a 6" f/12 D&G.


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bob midiri
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Re: D&G 5" f/12 on Astromart new [Re: The Ardent]
      #5647153 - 01/27/13 11:07 PM

Ray have to agree. I have a 6"F12 D&G, these are classic scopes, and the BEST custom made commercial achromats!! Bob

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Re: D&G 5" f/12 on Astromart new [Re: bob midiri]
      #5647157 - 01/27/13 11:11 PM

Yeh what an amazing deal, includes the rings/plate and finder, AND shipping (!), for the price of a new 31T5 Nagler. This for a scope that ordered new, takes YEARS to get.

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Re: D&G 5" f/12 on Astromart new [Re: johnnyha]
      #5647232 - 01/28/13 12:20 AM

Wow.. Please someone buy it before I do, I am so, so tempted by this.
But, it would not be wise considering my present finances! I would need a new mount, and a dewshield, and a case... That, and I recently added the Celestron 102GT to my stable as my 'Big Frac' and told myself that that's it, no more buying scopes for at least a year! (eyepieces though, that's a different story heheh)
Owning a D&G 5" or 6" is on 'my bucket list!'
(So in summation whoever gets this will be a very proud new pappy, of this there cannot be a doubt. Best of luck! )


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bob midiri
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Re: D&G 5" f/12 on Astromart new [Re: smallscopefanLeo]
      #5647237 - 01/28/13 12:22 AM

You can always build a Richard berry Alt/Az mount for it. Hard to beat the price on this one....

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Re: D&G 5" f/12 on Astromart new [Re: bob midiri]
      #5647254 - 01/28/13 12:32 AM

Quote:

You can always build a Richard berry Alt/Az mount for it. Hard to beat the price on this one....




Not helping! It still hasn't been marked as sold or pending..
I'm just going to assume that 5 people have already tried to claim it, and it is essentially spoken for.
I CAN'T spend any more money I just CAN'T! Someone buy it and put me out of my misery, please!

A classic, All-American D&G achromat... This is the most painful evening in recent memory, letting a dream like this go. I'm going to kick myself, but I HAVE to abstain from putting in my offer to buy! I wish the best skies to the purchaser though


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t.r.
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Re: D&G 5" f/12 on Astromart new [Re: smallscopefanLeo]
      #5647529 - 01/28/13 07:55 AM

I WANT AN 8" F/12!!!

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Scott BeithAdministrator
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Re: D&G 5" f/12 on Astromart new [Re: t.r.]
      #5647571 - 01/28/13 08:24 AM

I want an 8" f/15!

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Scott BeithAdministrator
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Re: D&G 5" f/12 on Astromart new [Re: Scott Beith]
      #5647572 - 01/28/13 08:24 AM

or a 10" f/15...

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Pete-LH
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Re: D&G 5" f/12 on Astromart new [Re: Scott Beith]
      #5647881 - 01/28/13 11:29 AM

Oh, I wish I stayed away from this thread. I talked myself out of it last night since I already have a 5" f/12. Now I'm reconsidering ... promised my better half no more scopes. Someone please buy it soon ...

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t.r.
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Re: D&G 5" f/12 on Astromart new [Re: Pete-LH]
      #5648008 - 01/28/13 12:21 PM

Can someone answer me this...I have a C80SS 80mm F/5 achromat. This corresponds to a 1.6 CA ratio. At around 100x a planetary image begins to loose contrast and detail due to the chromatic blur. If made to the same quality, will the 8" F/12, with a similar CA ratio of 1.5 begin to loose contrast at the same basic point in magnification (~100x), or can it go higher as per what its aperture may allow? If I understand CA correctly, like CA focal ratio scopes should breakdown at the same magnification if made to the same level of quality regardless of aperture...no? Incidentily, I use a colored filter to go above 100x and would do the same with the larger D & G or even go to the minus violet filter, but I was wondering if I could go higher than ~100x before i have to do so. I have no experience with the larger achromats...I wish I did. The D & G 8" is calling to me like a Siren's song!

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Jeff Morgan
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Re: D&G 5" f/12 on Astromart new [Re: The Ardent]
      #5648096 - 01/28/13 12:52 PM

Like a lost puppy these things always tug at my heartstrings. Then I realized the mounting it would require and my rotator cuff started to ache again ...

Someone is going to get a great deal on this scope.


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plyscope
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Re: D&G 5" f/12 on Astromart new [Re: t.r.]
      #5648668 - 01/28/13 04:44 PM

Hi t.r.

This review of the D & G 8' f12 has lots of info on magnification and various eyepieces etc.

web page


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Mirzam
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Re: D&G 5" f/12 on Astromart new [Re: plyscope]
      #5648752 - 01/28/13 05:18 PM

Wow! That is one heckofa deal! I'm not selling my D&G 5" f/12 but if I was it would be for around $2K.

The last time I used it with my binoviewer the Moon was just spectacular.

JimC


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TG
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Re: D&G 5" f/12 on Astromart new [Re: Jeff Morgan]
      #5648759 - 01/28/13 05:21 PM

Quote:

Like a lost puppy these things always tug at my heartstrings. Then I realized the mounting it would require and my rotator cuff started to ache again ...

Someone is going to get a great deal on this scope.




I used to have the f/15 version of the 5" and it did just fine on a CGE weighing about 15lbs, a large fraction of which was the A-P focuser. I suspect the f/12 version wouldn't do bad on the Atlas/CGEM or equivalent.

Tanveer.


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John Huntley
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Re: D&G 5" f/12 on Astromart new [Re: TG]
      #5649011 - 01/28/13 07:18 PM

I have my eyes on a mint condition 6" F/12 D&G here in the UK. The cost would be around $2,300 though which seemed a lot until I read about how long the waiting list really is for these scopes and how few there are this side of the pond.

Hearing these comments on the brand is doing nothing but increasing my interest though


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Bob Myler
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Re: D&G 5" f/12 on Astromart new [Re: John Huntley]
      #5649298 - 01/28/13 09:26 PM

Love that classic black finder pictured with the above. Any idea who manufactured it?

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bremms
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Re: D&G 5" f/12 on Astromart new [Re: Bob Myler]
      #5649411 - 01/28/13 10:40 PM

MMMMUUUSTSSSSTTT ReSSSisTT..

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bremms
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Re: D&G 5" f/12 on Astromart new [Re: bremms]
      #5649497 - 01/28/13 11:35 PM

Worry no more, for I have removed temptation! !

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smallscopefanLeo
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Re: D&G 5" f/12 on Astromart new [Re: bremms]
      #5649558 - 01/29/13 12:21 AM

Quote:

Worry no more, for I have removed temptation! !



Congratulations!
Do please post some pictures after you get this gem set up!
Why do classic refractors have such a heart-string tugging effect?


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mustgobigger
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Re: D&G 5" f/12 on Astromart new [Re: bremms]
      #5649825 - 01/29/13 08:10 AM

Quote:

Worry no more, for I have removed temptation! !




nice score....very nice scope for the money.


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bluestar
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Re: D&G 5" f/12 on Astromart new [Re: Bob Myler]
      #5650012 - 01/29/13 10:37 AM

Quote:

Love that classic black finder pictured with the above. Any idea who manufactured it?




I PM'd Mark re the finder manufacturer specifically and he didn't have any answers other than it's likely same/similar vintage as the ota. I was most interested in the finder rings with the tall legs that aid in getting the longer tube outta the finder FOV. It looks an old University Optics to me but I may be wrong.

To the buyer, check in with Barry with the Serial # and experience a unique optical reunion that will make you both feel warm and fuzzy. Barry likes nothing more than to see how his children have held up over the years and you'll have a stargazing mentor for life. THAT'S what makes dealing with D&G (where "classic" is both the noun and verb) so special, and why customers wait unflinchingly for his products.


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bremms
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Re: D&G 5" f/12 on Astromart new [Re: bluestar]
      #5650262 - 01/29/13 12:54 PM

I'm going to call Barry for sure. He made me a 5" F12 back in 2001. Sold that one because I lived in Baltimore City and couldn't use it much. Really at all as the case may be, since my mount was NOT portable.
I do have a portable mount now that will just carry a 5" F12. My heavy mount is for reflectors. Same mount I made for the D&G years ago, just cut a few feet out of the pedestal.


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bluestar
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Re: D&G 5" f/12 on Astromart new [Re: bremms]
      #5650788 - 01/29/13 05:27 PM

Don't forget to update your signature moving 5" f/12 back to the current telescope column

I've owned all the smaller scopes D&G makes except for the 6" f/12...I owned the 5" f/12 TWICE. Loved each and every one, especially the 6" f/15 "sweet spot" but they're all gone to new owners. The 8" will hopefully see me through the rest of my days.


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stevew
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Re: D&G 5" f/12 on Astromart new [Re: The Ardent]
      #5651219 - 01/29/13 09:37 PM

Quote:

Hello

D&G makes the best achromat.
I used to have a 6" f/12 D&G.



Dolce and Gabbana make refractors??


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Scott in NCAdministrator
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Re: D&G 5" f/12 on Astromart new [Re: bremms]
      #5651229 - 01/29/13 09:45 PM

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Worry no more, for I have removed temptation! !




Congrats! Be sure to post a first-light report when you get it. What do you plan to mount it on?


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bremms
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Re: D&G 5" f/12 on Astromart new [Re: Scott in NC]
      #5652281 - 01/30/13 01:03 PM

Dolce and Gabbana make refractors??....

I almost made a smart comment about that too..
Maybe an alligator skin carry case..

It will be mounted on a Vixen GPDX until my home built mount is finished. A little under mounted to start with. It will be cloudy for at least one week after it arrives. WE ALL know that.


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The Ardent
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Re: D&G 5" f/12 on Astromart new [Re: bremms]
      #5652812 - 01/30/13 05:18 PM

If you Google search D&G you dont get the telescope D&G. How do I know?

Quote:

Dolce and Gabbana make refractors??....

I almost made a smart comment about that too..





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stevew
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Re: D&G 5" f/12 on Astromart new [Re: The Ardent]
      #5653250 - 01/30/13 09:28 PM Attachment (18 downloads)

I used to own a Dolce and Gabbana 5 inch F-12.
Wonderful telescope.

Steve


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bob midiri
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Re: D&G 5" f/12 on Astromart new [Re: stevew]
      #5653586 - 01/31/13 03:57 AM Attachment (18 downloads)

Yes they are...

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Re: D&G 5" f/12 on Astromart new [Re: t.r.]
      #5653684 - 01/31/13 06:39 AM

Quote:

I WANT AN 8" F/12!!!




Then buy it! And a Chromacor!


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Re: D&G 5" f/12 on Astromart new [Re: Scott Beith]
      #5653688 - 01/31/13 06:46 AM

Quote:



I want an 8" f/15!

or a 10" f/15...




Then buy them both! And order two Chromacor-II !


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Re: D&G 5" f/12 on Astromart new [Re: ValeryD]
      #5654739 - 01/31/13 05:27 PM

Quote:

Quote:

I WANT AN 8" F/12!!!




Then buy it! And a Chromacor!




After many years this is the LAST "gotta have" item on my shopping list. Valery...our Chromacor chat is pinned on my Office board


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Re: D&G 5" f/12 on Astromart new [Re: stevew]
      #5654760 - 01/31/13 05:40 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Hello

D&G makes the best achromat.
I used to have a 6" f/12 D&G.



Dolce and Gabbana make refractors??




The "timeless" choice for the refractor fasionista.


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t.r.
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Re: D&G 5" f/12 on Astromart new [Re: bluestar]
      #5654882 - 01/31/13 06:47 PM

Valery, The D&G 8" F/12 I had lined up fell through, now I wait...

Hey Bob, How is that mount finished? It looks like an oil rub? Very rich and pleasing to the eye...perhaps its the wood type?


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bob midiri
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Re: D&G 5" f/12 on Astromart new [Re: t.r.]
      #5655891 - 02/01/13 09:23 AM

The tripod legs I picked up used, the rest I built out of Oak 3/4" ply and stained to try to match the legs and polyurethaned. I need to tweak the virtual weight set up by using 1/4" angle iron in place of the thinner stock I have now. But it does work well. Bob

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