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KarlL
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Televue 60 - Any Thoughts?
      #5665522 - 02/06/13 03:31 PM

Everyone should ask how I've gone from considering a long-focus, relatively large refractor to a small diameter APO in a very short period of time. I've done alot of thinking about how likely it is that I would complete a build project and use the resulting scope. It's a matter of convenience and storage space. I'm not expecting miracles from 60mm. "Grab-and-go" would get much more use.

I'm still very new around here, so perhaps I don't know how to use Search, but I searched under "Televue 60" and didn't find anything useful. Am I missing something? I did read the review and found it very helpful.

Any experience with this scope?

Regards,

Karl


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t.r.
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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: KarlL]
      #5665524 - 02/06/13 03:33 PM

Try searching it on google...the search engine here is finicky at best. Google will lead you to articles and posts here on CN. Having read your introduction post, I don't think you will be happy with only 60mm's getting back into the hobby. Put the apo designation aside...it is not magic. You are on the right track thinking 5" Mak or perhaps a 6" SCT. These could easily be your one scope IMO. I like 6", because according to "The Backyard Astronomers Guide" 6" will get you a view of every type of object astronomy has to offer, excluding galaxy clusters...according to the table in the book anyways.

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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: KarlL]
      #5665535 - 02/06/13 03:40 PM

It's an incredible little APO. Ed Ting has a great review on his web.

The following is yet another one:

http://www.scopeviews.co.uk/TV60.htm

I too have a TV60 and I carry it whenever I am travelling. It needs no time to cool down. And very excellent for observing moon, bright DSO, even planet. With a 15mm or 20mm plossl and a 3-6 zoom, you don't need any other eyepieces at all.


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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: BCNGreyCat]
      #5665643 - 02/06/13 04:50 PM

Well if you are in Canada good luck, I,ve E-mailed a local retailer of astro gear who are showing one in stock to confirm it is in stock and available for imediate delivery or would have to be ordered and never heard a thing back, they were one of several Canadian retailers who seemed to show zero interest, a lot of retailers tend to show stuff in stock to snag a sale when in fact it has to be ordered in with a considerable wait in some cases.I found that out earlier in the year the hard way,JMTCW,DA.

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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: KarlL]
      #5665660 - 02/06/13 05:00 PM

I have owned one for a few years now. The reviews say it all really. Wonderful scope, great for daytime and night sky and excellent for travel. With a 10x50 binocular and the TV60 you can be happy for hours at a time.

link to picture


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Scott BeithAdministrator
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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: plyscope]
      #5665764 - 02/06/13 06:08 PM

http://www.cloudynights.com/documents/tv60vstak60.pdf

http://www.cloudynights.com/item.php?item_id=968

http://www.scopereviews.com/page1u.html#4

http://www.astromart.com/articles/article.asp?article_id=291

http://www.scopeviews.co.uk/TV60.htm



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chboss
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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: Scott Beith]
      #5666000 - 02/06/13 09:02 PM

For the best 60mm APO you might also consider the Takahashi FS-60CB or the FS-60Q.
Price is in a similar range and you will get a fluorite doublet that beats the ED design hands down.

just my 2 Cents
Chris


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Scott BeithAdministrator
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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: chboss]
      #5666142 - 02/06/13 10:15 PM

The first link I posted runs those two side by side.

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chboss
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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: Scott Beith]
      #5666258 - 02/06/13 11:40 PM

Hi Scott

Yes, thanks for posting the link.
It is definitely a question of taste and how much one is ready to spend.
I have owned a TV Pronto years ago that was a fantastic small scope, returning to the small diameter I prefered the FS-60Q.

BTW a smallish ED Borg would also be an interesting alternative.

regards
Chris


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Scott BeithAdministrator
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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: chboss]
      #5666264 - 02/06/13 11:43 PM

There is always the option to spend more.

I haven't owned a TV or a Tak yet but if I get the chance I will add a Tak FS152 to the mix.


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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: chboss]
      #5666330 - 02/07/13 12:44 AM

Quote:

For the best 60mm APO you might also consider the Takahashi FS-60CB or the FS-60Q.
Price is in a similar range and you will get a fluorite doublet that beats the ED design hands down.
Chris




I just purchased the latter scope mentioned above and it is indeed a very fine instrument. I was shocked by the image quality when pushed with a 5mm eyepiece, much detail in Jupiter coud be seen.


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Traveler
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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: telescopemullet]
      #5666443 - 02/07/13 04:09 AM

+1 for the Takahashi FS-60CB.

Its the telescope i use the most on those nights after work. A light Gitzo Carbon tripod and a couple of ep's is all that you need. It is a very sharp telescope where stars are pinpoint.

Try this link for a great review from the great Ed Ting.


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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: Traveler]
      #5666453 - 02/07/13 04:21 AM

I really like 60mm's. They're so portable and handy and I like the challenge of using them to see difficult things. They won't show as much right away as a big scope, but used with patience and diligence, they will show a lot.

Personally, I prefer longer focal lengths, like 700mm - 900mm. My wonderful Zeiss Telemator has 63mm aperture and 840mm focal length. I can still get a 3° field with 2" eyepieces. My 30mm ES 82 shows a wonderful image. On double stars it will take very high magnifications. I've used it at 336x on a number of occasions.

There can be a minimum aperture fever, too!


Clear skies!
Thomas, Denmark


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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: Astrojensen]
      #5666455 - 02/07/13 04:41 AM

I can't imagine why y'all encourage a guy who's considering a 60mm as his only scope. A short focus 80mm would be just as grab&go and will show a lot more on every type of target in the night sky. Larger than that and you give up on the portability and convenience IMO, but there's no good reason to go for something as tiny as a 60mm.

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Kon Dealer
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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: Mark9473]
      #5666460 - 02/07/13 04:49 AM

60mm scope = 2827mm2
80mm scope = 5026mm2

This is a bit of a no-brainer.


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Traveler
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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: Mark9473]
      #5666512 - 02/07/13 06:20 AM

Hi Mark,

I gave the OP an answer on his question about a 60mm refractor.
In my experience a 60mm refractor is not a (too) small instrument for some serious observations. There is a lot to enjoy and to see with a 60mm.


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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: Traveler]
      #5666521 - 02/07/13 06:45 AM

You are going to miss alot with just a 60mm. You will be saying to yourself 'did I just see something there?' And you will never know what that blurry blob was, or if you really saw it.

I tried a 50mm, then a 60mm, then at 75mm things started to be seen. And you could start to use MAGNIFICATION.

Finally settled at 90mm as my smallest scope because you can goto 300x on the planets and see real details at Mars and Jupiter.


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Gert K A
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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: KarlL]
      #5666533 - 02/07/13 07:00 AM

I agree.. actually I agree with all that is said so far:
60mm will make you miss out, it’s a no go as the only scope imo. at a minimum aim at a 80mm for that
and this for so many reasons, but perhaps especially because of how much planetary suffers.
That said tiny scopes are huge fun and does challenge you’re observing technique (and patience ) in the most entertaining way.
They are so easy to bring that you will get “star time” where there would not have been otherwise.
So +1 as a +2 on a tiny scope lol


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t.r.
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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: Gert K A]
      #5666588 - 02/07/13 07:45 AM

Ding Ding! 90mm for me too as I have stated elsewhere.

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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: t.r.]
      #5666796 - 02/07/13 10:26 AM

I'm not a believer in short f/ratio, small refractors as a general purpose scope, apo or not, for visual work.

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