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Televue 60 - Any Thoughts?
      #5665522 - 02/06/13 03:31 PM

Everyone should ask how I've gone from considering a long-focus, relatively large refractor to a small diameter APO in a very short period of time. I've done alot of thinking about how likely it is that I would complete a build project and use the resulting scope. It's a matter of convenience and storage space. I'm not expecting miracles from 60mm. "Grab-and-go" would get much more use.

I'm still very new around here, so perhaps I don't know how to use Search, but I searched under "Televue 60" and didn't find anything useful. Am I missing something? I did read the review and found it very helpful.

Any experience with this scope?

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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: KarlL]
      #5665524 - 02/06/13 03:33 PM

Try searching it on google...the search engine here is finicky at best. Google will lead you to articles and posts here on CN. Having read your introduction post, I don't think you will be happy with only 60mm's getting back into the hobby. Put the apo designation aside...it is not magic. You are on the right track thinking 5" Mak or perhaps a 6" SCT. These could easily be your one scope IMO. I like 6", because according to "The Backyard Astronomers Guide" 6" will get you a view of every type of object astronomy has to offer, excluding galaxy clusters...according to the table in the book anyways.

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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: KarlL]
      #5665535 - 02/06/13 03:40 PM

It's an incredible little APO. Ed Ting has a great review on his web.

The following is yet another one:

http://www.scopeviews.co.uk/TV60.htm

I too have a TV60 and I carry it whenever I am travelling. It needs no time to cool down. And very excellent for observing moon, bright DSO, even planet. With a 15mm or 20mm plossl and a 3-6 zoom, you don't need any other eyepieces at all.


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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: BCNGreyCat]
      #5665643 - 02/06/13 04:50 PM

Well if you are in Canada good luck, I,ve E-mailed a local retailer of astro gear who are showing one in stock to confirm it is in stock and available for imediate delivery or would have to be ordered and never heard a thing back, they were one of several Canadian retailers who seemed to show zero interest, a lot of retailers tend to show stuff in stock to snag a sale when in fact it has to be ordered in with a considerable wait in some cases.I found that out earlier in the year the hard way,JMTCW,DA.

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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: KarlL]
      #5665660 - 02/06/13 05:00 PM

I have owned one for a few years now. The reviews say it all really. Wonderful scope, great for daytime and night sky and excellent for travel. With a 10x50 binocular and the TV60 you can be happy for hours at a time.

link to picture


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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: plyscope]
      #5665764 - 02/06/13 06:08 PM

http://www.cloudynights.com/documents/tv60vstak60.pdf

http://www.cloudynights.com/item.php?item_id=968

http://www.scopereviews.com/page1u.html#4

http://www.astromart.com/articles/article.asp?article_id=291

http://www.scopeviews.co.uk/TV60.htm



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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: Scott Beith]
      #5666000 - 02/06/13 09:02 PM

For the best 60mm APO you might also consider the Takahashi FS-60CB or the FS-60Q.
Price is in a similar range and you will get a fluorite doublet that beats the ED design hands down.

just my 2 Cents
Chris


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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: chboss]
      #5666142 - 02/06/13 10:15 PM

The first link I posted runs those two side by side.

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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: Scott Beith]
      #5666258 - 02/06/13 11:40 PM

Hi Scott

Yes, thanks for posting the link.
It is definitely a question of taste and how much one is ready to spend.
I have owned a TV Pronto years ago that was a fantastic small scope, returning to the small diameter I prefered the FS-60Q.

BTW a smallish ED Borg would also be an interesting alternative.

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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: chboss]
      #5666264 - 02/06/13 11:43 PM

There is always the option to spend more.

I haven't owned a TV or a Tak yet but if I get the chance I will add a Tak FS152 to the mix.


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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: chboss]
      #5666330 - 02/07/13 12:44 AM

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For the best 60mm APO you might also consider the Takahashi FS-60CB or the FS-60Q.
Price is in a similar range and you will get a fluorite doublet that beats the ED design hands down.
Chris




I just purchased the latter scope mentioned above and it is indeed a very fine instrument. I was shocked by the image quality when pushed with a 5mm eyepiece, much detail in Jupiter coud be seen.


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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: telescopemullet]
      #5666443 - 02/07/13 04:09 AM

+1 for the Takahashi FS-60CB.

Its the telescope i use the most on those nights after work. A light Gitzo Carbon tripod and a couple of ep's is all that you need. It is a very sharp telescope where stars are pinpoint.

Try this link for a great review from the great Ed Ting.


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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: Traveler]
      #5666453 - 02/07/13 04:21 AM

I really like 60mm's. They're so portable and handy and I like the challenge of using them to see difficult things. They won't show as much right away as a big scope, but used with patience and diligence, they will show a lot.

Personally, I prefer longer focal lengths, like 700mm - 900mm. My wonderful Zeiss Telemator has 63mm aperture and 840mm focal length. I can still get a 3° field with 2" eyepieces. My 30mm ES 82 shows a wonderful image. On double stars it will take very high magnifications. I've used it at 336x on a number of occasions.

There can be a minimum aperture fever, too!


Clear skies!
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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: Astrojensen]
      #5666455 - 02/07/13 04:41 AM

I can't imagine why y'all encourage a guy who's considering a 60mm as his only scope. A short focus 80mm would be just as grab&go and will show a lot more on every type of target in the night sky. Larger than that and you give up on the portability and convenience IMO, but there's no good reason to go for something as tiny as a 60mm.

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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: Mark9473]
      #5666460 - 02/07/13 04:49 AM

60mm scope = 2827mm2
80mm scope = 5026mm2

This is a bit of a no-brainer.


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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: Mark9473]
      #5666512 - 02/07/13 06:20 AM

Hi Mark,

I gave the OP an answer on his question about a 60mm refractor.
In my experience a 60mm refractor is not a (too) small instrument for some serious observations. There is a lot to enjoy and to see with a 60mm.


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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: Traveler]
      #5666521 - 02/07/13 06:45 AM

You are going to miss alot with just a 60mm. You will be saying to yourself 'did I just see something there?' And you will never know what that blurry blob was, or if you really saw it.

I tried a 50mm, then a 60mm, then at 75mm things started to be seen. And you could start to use MAGNIFICATION.

Finally settled at 90mm as my smallest scope because you can goto 300x on the planets and see real details at Mars and Jupiter.


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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: KarlL]
      #5666533 - 02/07/13 07:00 AM

I agree.. actually I agree with all that is said so far:
60mm will make you miss out, it’s a no go as the only scope imo. at a minimum aim at a 80mm for that
and this for so many reasons, but perhaps especially because of how much planetary suffers.
That said tiny scopes are huge fun and does challenge you’re observing technique (and patience ) in the most entertaining way.
They are so easy to bring that you will get “star time” where there would not have been otherwise.
So +1 as a +2 on a tiny scope lol


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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: Gert K A]
      #5666588 - 02/07/13 07:45 AM

Ding Ding! 90mm for me too as I have stated elsewhere.

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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: t.r.]
      #5666796 - 02/07/13 10:26 AM

I'm not a believer in short f/ratio, small refractors as a general purpose scope, apo or not, for visual work.

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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: Mark9473]
      #5666871 - 02/07/13 11:06 AM

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I can't imagine why y'all encourage a guy who's considering a 60mm as his only scope. A short focus 80mm would be just as grab&go and will show a lot more on every type of target in the night sky. Larger than that and you give up on the portability and convenience IMO, but there's no good reason to go for something as tiny as a 60mm.




Well, I used a 50mm f/17 Zeiss refractor as my only scope for about three years. I saw a truckload of stuff during those three years, because I made it a challenge to find out exactly where the limits to its performance were. I never wrote off an object (within reason, I didn't waste my time with 14th mag galaxies, obviously, but 12th magnitude was fair game!) as "impossible", without actually verifying with an earnest attempt to see it, whatever the numbers said.

Using a small scope to observe (relatively) challenging objects is not for everyone, but for me it made a heck of a lot of fun. Inspired by Jay Reynolds Freeman, I began a Herschel 400 survey with it and finished a couple of constellations. I only stopped because I didn't have a correct image diagonal for it at that time, which made starhopping a tiring process. The H400 survey was continued with my 63mm Zeiss Telementor and later Telemator, which do have a correct image diagonal. I have seen over 200 H400's with them.

The 50mm Zeiss was an extremely good double star telescope and I could detect many difficult pairs. I also had fun with it as a lunar-planetary telescope. Some years later I made a new OTA for it and took it with me when I attended a school far from home. It was a smash hit among the other students, who spend bitterly cold nights outside with me, just to get a glimpse of lunar craters, the belts of Jupiter or his moons. The Jovian moons were a favorite.

A 50mm scope is big enough to show all the major sights in the solar system and fine examples of every class of object, with the only exception being globular clusters (in the northern hemisphere). It can only resolve some outlying members of M13 with great difficulty. Omega Centauri would be a whole different experience, but it is reserved for southern hemisphere dwellers.

With the right attitude, any telescope can be tremendously satisfying. With the wrong one, they are all too small. Most people are somewhere in between, usually ending up with the largest scope they can possibly set up themselves.


Clear skies!
Thomas, Denmark


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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: Astrojensen]
      #5666919 - 02/07/13 11:36 AM

Sure Thomas they can be fun, I won't disagree on that. But globular clusters *is* a big exception especially since these are among the brightest DSOs to be found. And let's be honest, for lunar and planetary observing every centimer of aperture counts big time.

I had a 60 mm as my only scope when I was young, and had all the right attitude and enthousiasm you could ask for, and better eyes as well as better skies than I have now, and I still won't recommend one. This is not about "never big enough"; I spent three decades with telescopes no larger than 90 mm.


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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: Mark9473]
      #5666977 - 02/07/13 12:07 PM

Aperture always wins over less aperture, given equal quality. I don't disagree that a somewhat larger scope won't show more, a lot more, even. Still, for some, a 60mm, or a 50mm, is enough.

Today my most used scopes are my 6" refractor and my 12" dob. Did I grow tired of my 63mm Zeiss? No. I still use it frequently. Are the bigger scopes more fun? No. It's a different kind of fun, in a way, but not more fun than the smaller scopes.

For some, a 60mm might be all that is needed to maintain a lifelong interest in astronomy. If it was the only scope I had, I would still be out there every clear night.

In the end, selecting a scope is a highly personal thing. We can only give advice about what worked for us. I find dobsonians a thrill, others hate them. I find small scopes to be interesting, others find them boring.

And I personally find that one only truly values aperture, if one has observed diligently for years with a small scope.

Would I recommend a 60mm as a first scope? Difficult to say. I find it difficult to recommend the 60mm's on the market today and people seem to have less patience than they used to have, especially kids. I have lent a 63mm Zeiss to a friend as a first scope and he is happy with it. I wouldn't have any qualms recommending a Zeiss Telementor as a first scope, especially if the user understood that he wouldn't get color HD Hubble images in any scope anyway.

If a Zeiss isn't available and the budget is limited, I often recommend a 80mm - 100mm Sky-Watcher achromat to beginners. Some have emailed me later and thanked me, saying they got an excellent scope that was easy to use.


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Thomas, Denmark


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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: Astrojensen]
      #5667099 - 02/07/13 01:29 PM

Well said Thomas.

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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: Doug D.]
      #5667568 - 02/07/13 05:56 PM

+1 to Thomas' post - Plenty of food for thought for anyone that hasn't already been through their own personal "telescope evolution".

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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: Garfield]
      #5668298 - 02/08/13 03:10 AM

Thanks guys!


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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: Madratter]
      #5669682 - 02/08/13 07:59 PM

I looked at getting one but they are just to much money. For the same price you can get a SV70ED with a M1 mount on a S/S tripod with a nice diagonal.

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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: Madratter]
      #5669718 - 02/08/13 08:27 PM

Well, I've got a Televue 70mm and its amazing. It does t fail - everything around it does, me, the seeing, the weather - but when alls a go - its exquisite. It's called a semi apo - I think that might be a misnomer as it doesn't contain fluorite but one element is special or some such. It IS incredibly sharp. You can get a full apo I suppose but I could care less as the riveting clarity has me a diehard fan. Not familiar with the 60mm but the Ranger is exquisite.

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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: t.r.]
      #5669722 - 02/08/13 08:31 PM

Quote:

Try searching it on google...the search engine here is finicky at best. Google will lead you to articles and posts here on CN. Having read your introduction post, I don't think you will be happy with only 60mm's getting back into the hobby. Put the apo designation aside...it is not magic. You are on the right track thinking 5" Mak or perhaps a 6" SCT. These could easily be your one scope IMO. I like 6", because according to "The Backyard Astronomers Guide" 6" will get you a view of every type of object astronomy has to offer, excluding galaxy clusters...according to the table in the book anyways.




Having just pushed my Ranger like the second coming I will temper that with agreeing with the 6" sct being better. It has a definite clear advantage on everything over the 70mm. Literally all facets.

Pete


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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: azure1961p]
      #5669786 - 02/08/13 09:16 PM

Six inch aprerture vs 3. I cannot argue with that. I have a Pronto, it is small, but I do enjoy it. Would not mind a six inch refractor, but that is way in the future.

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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: johntrob]
      #5669923 - 02/08/13 10:52 PM

I should clarify though I have the 6" and 8" the 70mm still sees a lot of use. It's too easy to set up and cools down in record time. Two things that are a major plus at the end of a long day or week as it were.

Pete


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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: azure1961p]
      #5670306 - 02/09/13 08:49 AM

I think there comes a point in a stargazers life where they simply know what aperture satisfies their criteria for an enjoyable observing experience. This comes through experience...read: owning alot of different scope sizes and types! When a new person asks for advice on what is best to start with, can we really say with honesty that 60mm is best?!?! 6" has been the standard for years regardless of scope type, and for good reason. All around, it will satisfy! If one knows deep down they can't handle a 6" sct or a 5" mak, then by all means the smaller offering may then be best(for me the smallest that satisfies is 90mm)...and only THEY can answer that for themselves. I'm confident in saying that they will see alot in a 5" or 6" scope. I'm just as confident they will miss alot in a 60mm as their only scope! Many of us cut our teeth with the 60 for years and most of us wouldn't go back, knowing what we now know about aperture. It certainly couldn't be my only scope...but I could be happy for a lifetime with a 5" refractor or a 6" catadioptric. YMMV

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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: t.r.]
      #5670358 - 02/09/13 09:31 AM

Id agree there. If I had one scope it wouldn't be 70mm - infact it'd be the 8". One thing that's not mentioned here as its not astronomy is the daylight applications of the 70mm are nothing short of fantastic. It's the go-everywhere s ope for everything. That I can look at cormorants on a lighthouse island 7 miles out to sea and then Cassinis division that night makes it a potent performer covering a lot of bases. Like u say its not a great ONLY scope but man does it get used!

Pete

Edited by azure1961p (02/09/13 09:31 AM)


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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: azure1961p]
      #5670636 - 02/09/13 12:21 PM

Lots of choices out ther, Stellarvue have discontinued their ED70 however they are available from Astro-Tech and Williams, regarding the Ranger and Pronto, I had both at one time and would say at the risk of getting flamed that the modern ED70,s give a better image,DA.

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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: t.r.]
      #5670645 - 02/09/13 12:28 PM

Quote:

When a new person asks for advice on what is best to start with, can we really say with honesty that 60mm is best?!?!




The OP did not ask this question, he told us he had arrived at his decision and then inquired about a scope of that apeture.


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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: telescopemullet]
      #5670760 - 02/09/13 01:29 PM

Quote:

Quote:

When a new person asks for advice on what is best to start with, can we really say with honesty that 60mm is best?!?!




The OP did not ask this question, he told us he had arrived at his decision and then inquired about a scope of that apeture.




+1 to this.

To the OP: I think that if you want a 60mm scope, you can hardly do better than the TV, a real little jewel.

Bill


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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: la200o]
      #5671090 - 02/09/13 05:41 PM

Ah, but the OP did ask the question...in his original post found here... Shortened link

Nor does KarlL state that a decision is made. He is considering a 60mm.

Edited by KWB (02/12/13 01:50 PM)


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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: t.r.]
      #5671096 - 02/09/13 05:45 PM

But not in this thread.

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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: Traveler]
      #5671102 - 02/09/13 05:46 PM

No argument there...I was simply following along with his decision process from this original post going beyond what is directly in front of me with his best interest in mind...I will excuse myself from further discussion.

Edited by t.r. (02/09/13 05:49 PM)


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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: t.r.]
      #5671523 - 02/09/13 10:37 PM

too small

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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: Deep13]
      #5671540 - 02/09/13 10:53 PM

I appreciate everyone's input.

Unfortunately, I am working with very little budget, and the Televue meets it pretty well. I might be able to squeeze a current Takahashi, but the finder and finder bracket are pretty expensive for what they are. I still have to pay for a diagonal and an eyepiece or two.

I should start lurking for something used.

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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: KarlL]
      #5671544 - 02/09/13 10:59 PM

There's a used finder and bracket for the Tak on the mart....

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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: Madratter]
      #5675619 - 02/12/13 11:13 AM

Hello,
I've looked for Takahashi FS60, short focal ratio, and seen pictures muy.muy beautiful, aesthetically speaking, both wide field and lunar and planetary, however, are 60mm, and what we can not do is compare telescopes larger diameter.
I also commented that the images I saw this telescope, I liked more than the images provided by some larger telescope, less bright but more aesthetic ..!
Unfortunately I could not see for the TV60 .. I would really like!
a greeting


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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: curiosidad]
      #5675988 - 02/12/13 02:46 PM

Hello and Welcome Karl

My thoughts are provided that a 60mm telescope isn't one's primary or only telescope,there is not a thing wrong with choosing this particular model. A quality grab and go setup is nice thing to have in ones arsenal. Obviously using a small aperture scope isn't comparable as to what details can be resolved in a 5 to 6 inch or larger telescope scope,but that isn't always or even usually my objective when going out for many an observing session in my backyard. I'm wanting a setup that will be taken outdoors at the drop of a hat as to minimise the effort,one that requires little to no "cool down" time and with one short enough focal length as to priority for low power,widefield viewing using a 2 inch eyepiece. Adding a 2X barlow will still enable me to still split a fair number of double stars and observe the cloud bands on Jupiter. During the daytime these make handy and effective wildlife viewing scopes.

If I'm after trying to resolve globular clusters such as M13,obtaining the most detailed planetary views or trying to split the tightest double stars on a night of very steady seeing,this type setup never goes outdoors. A 10 to 12 inch dobsonian is the tool of choice for me,and it's important to choose the right telescope for the job. Owning more than one telescope is the key to enjoying this hobby IMO, as one telescope can't do it all.

Having said the above,this little telescope is on the pricey end of the scale as to my budget, for no more aperture that it has. I really like 60mm refractors, but just not for a $900.00 investment when purchased new. It is super compact in size,actually more compact than I need and I much prefer an 80mm aperture size for a grab and go type setup if more than $300.00 is going to be invested in a purchase,but that's just me.

What works for me may well not work for others,or yourself. Good luck with your choice and enjoy!


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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: plyscope]
      #5679545 - 02/14/13 01:52 PM

The 60 mm Televue is an excellent little refractor in a very small package. I added a 30mm finder mounted on a bracket attached adjacent to the 60mm to be able to rapidly find new objects. It works great. Bob

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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: Madratter]
      #5682867 - 02/16/13 06:15 AM

Hello,
I wanted to ask a few questions I have about this little TV 60:

-It is true that the grease in the focuser can get very stiff on cold nights?

-In daylight, is has the same
perfection in watching birds as the Swarovski(or any alpha spotting) spotting scopes.?

-The TV60's helical focuser has 1.5 turns. With This focuser, can be focus from infinity to 10 meters.
If the bird is nearer than 10 meters
then I have to use the extension tube.?
Thank you very much.


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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: curiosidad]
      #5687218 - 02/18/13 04:01 PM

Curiosidad,
I have used the TV 60 ( and the rest) down to freezing at the various star partys I go to from Oki-Tex to Table Mountain in Washington to RTMC at 7200 feet in Big Bear CA and never had the grease freeze.

Here is a good link to Cornell's ornithology report on our scope as used for birding... (great review btw)
http://televue.com/Birdscope/

The TV 60 has a built in draw tube that allows a close focus of about 10 feet last time I measured,...
Using our 60 degree diagonal and a 3.5 Nagler.

But it will depend on which components you are using it should be very close to that.
I focused on a spider in a bush 10 feet away at over 100X ... Amazing


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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: John Rhodes]
      #6223140 - 11/29/13 10:48 AM

Karl,

I am in much the same position as you and chose a Tele Vue 60 as my only scope. It's perfect for astro observations requiring fast setup/takedown in my driveway, yard, and local observing spot. It's also an amazing [although not weatherproof] spotting scope. The whole rig is light enough to hoof into the local woods, Hawk Mountain, or to French Creek State Park to observe wildlife. Plus, it's nice to have the option for using it as a telephoto photographic lens. The optics are close to perfect as long as the seeing conditions permit. It's a fast f ratio and takes a moderate amount of magnification very well [again, conditions permitting], and gives extremely sharp wide field/lo power views with a 32mm Plossl.

There are others here who offer some some logical reasons on why they wouldn't recommend a 60mm as their only scope, but from where I sit, it's difficult to argue why one wouldn't want this scope as their only scope! I say it's a great choice. The Tak is also a beautiful scope with similar attributes, but requires a larger investment. Eventually, I'd like a Tak for astrophotography/observation, but for now, this Tele Vue is the better choice for me based on price, performance, support, quality, portability, ease of use, versatility, supporting local/regional small businesses, etc.


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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: Madratter]
      #6224213 - 11/29/13 09:06 PM

As I've said here before, I have a 10in. Dob, but the most enjoyable viewing of my 71 years was in the Australian outback under very dark skies with my TV 60mm and a 9mm Nagler
Just wonderful, even Omega centarii was partially resolved.
You will need a bigger scope but the TV 60 is the BEST grab and go I can think of.
Tom in CA


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Re: Televue 60 - Any Thoughts? new [Re: tlogan6680]
      #6224503 - 11/30/13 01:35 AM

I have owned a TV 60 7 months and have had a blast with it. WAY exceeded my expectations of what the scope is capable of. I have other scopes that are larger and probably would not recommend it as an only scope.
Here is my initial post from first light:


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