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schinia
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televue 85 ep's & accessories
      #5869104 - 05/18/13 10:32 AM

hello, i am new here, i would like to get some input on my choices. i want to purchase the TV-85, and need you to give your opinion on ep's and options. i wear glasses, (veralux) i am going to use the scope for terrestrial, and planets, ect. what tripod should i use, also which finder, and i imagine delos ep's maybe a 3.5, 6, 14, ? or would a pentax 3-6 zoom? and a panoptic 35mm. i would appreciate your views.

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Re: televue 85 ep's & accessories new [Re: schinia]
      #5870137 - 05/18/13 08:31 PM

I have the 3.5, 4.5 and 6mm Delos for my 85 and like them alot for Jupiter and Saturn in my TV-85.

Also consider the Pentax 3.5 -10mm XW which , in my opinion, have about the same performance as far as eye relief, scatter control and contrast, but cost less.

Adorama Pentax XW

The 3-6 Nagler zoom is also a great eyepiece, but may not have enough eyerelief for eyeglass users.

Panoptic 35 is also a solid choice, but also read good feedback for the ES 34mm 68 degree 2" eyepiece.
Any alt/az mount with slow motion controls will be sufficient for the 85 and a red dot finder that can be mounted to the clamshell will be fine.

BTW, welcome to the forums!


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Re: televue 85 ep's & accessories new [Re: Jim7728]
      #5871039 - 05/19/13 10:11 AM

Jim, what do you mean by slow motion controls? i was looking at the AT 4011 because they said the TPM 1015 wasn't strong enough.

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Re: televue 85 ep's & accessories new [Re: schinia]
      #5871058 - 05/19/13 10:19 AM

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Jim, what do you mean by slow motion controls? i was looking at the AT 4011 because they said the TPM 1015 wasn't strong enough.




Alt/az mounts that have tracking knobs such as the Astrotech Voyager, Vixen II, ES Twilight I ect.

I never heard of AT 4011 or TPM 1015.


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Re: televue 85 ep's & accessories new [Re: Jim7728]
      #5871116 - 05/19/13 10:51 AM

Two of my scopes are f/7 like the TV85, and the other is f/7.8. I can highly recommend the TV 3-6mm Zoom as well as the 35 Pan. These two would cover both the high and low end of the mag range just fine. I have never used a Delos so I can't comment on those.

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Re: televue 85 ep's & accessories new [Re: Jim7728]
      #5871177 - 05/19/13 11:38 AM

Jim, go onto the www.televue.com webpage, click on telescopes, on tv-85 on the left side it will have accessories, reviews, ect. you will find the pictures of them, and find them for sale on many web sites.

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Re: televue 85 ep's & accessories new [Re: Scott Beith]
      #5871180 - 05/19/13 11:42 AM

Scott, the tv 3-6 zoom only has a 10mm eye relief. for me this won't work. thanks guy

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Re: televue 85 ep's & accessories new [Re: schinia]
      #5871202 - 05/19/13 11:53 AM

I also use the TMB Planetary EP's. I use the 3.2mm, 4mm, 6mm, and 9mm.
I find them to be solid performers and I believe they have around 18mm of eye relief.


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Re: televue 85 ep's & accessories new [Re: schinia]
      #5871226 - 05/19/13 12:04 PM

Okay, easier for me to go by the mount name than product code.

http://www.televue.com/engine/TV3b_page.asp?id=200&Tab=_spec


I'd go for the GAM-2014(ash Gibraltar) as it's more solid than the Telepod or Panoramic tripod.


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Re: televue 85 ep's & accessories new [Re: Jim7728]
      #5871623 - 05/19/13 02:33 PM Attachment (20 downloads)

I have owned a TV 85 for 12+ years and love the scope. I wear eyeglasses so most of my eyepieces are selected with this in mind. I never bought anything special for the TV 85 as I already owned the ones I use.
40mm Pentax XL
24 Panoptic
22 Panoptic
19 Panoptic
16.8 Mega Vista
12 Radian
10.5 Mega Vista
8 Radian
6 Radian
4 Radian
3-6 zoom (rarely used)
As far as mounts, I own a TV Panoramic left over from my Pronto and it's OK, not stable enough. I also own a TV Gibralter and it works great. I briefly owned a TV Telepod and it was sold off as it wasn't sturdy for a TV 85. The mount I probably use most often is a Bogen 475 tripod with a Telepod head. It's a nice setup and easy to fold up and transport.
Regarding finders, a TV Quickpoint works fine but a TV Starbeam looks nicer and costs WAY more.


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schinia
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Re: televue 85 ep's & accessories new [Re: Jeff Gardner]
      #5873429 - 05/20/13 10:34 AM

Jeff, i found that some so-called experts claim that the GAM 2014 tripod is overkill for the TV-85 ? is the tripod manfrotto bogen 475B digital pro geared, black tripod legs. max payload 26.50 lbs. height 16.6-74" that is on the adorama photo web site, the one you are referring to? also i thought that the pentax 3-6 zoom would eliminate some ep's. is that not a good idea? also do you use a barlow? and or a 1 1/4 60 degree everbrite diagonal? thanks guy. there were also a few that bought the quickpoint, but after awhile replaced it w/starbeam.

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Re: televue 85 ep's & accessories new [Re: schinia]
      #5873530 - 05/20/13 11:31 AM

Overkill...nah. Overpriced? Probably.

BTW, just ordered the Manfrotto 475B Digital for my TV-85 with SM-60 Ha filter and Gib-5 head(20lbs all together).

I needed more height as I like to stand when viewing and like the new click stop spreader feature. The $65 dollar rebate is also nice.

BTW, Quickpoint is fine for daytime, but too bright for night viewing



Edited by Jim7728 (05/20/13 11:50 AM)


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Re: televue 85 ep's & accessories new [Re: schinia]
      #5873569 - 05/20/13 11:50 AM

I where eyeglasses for near sightedness and have .75 astigmatism, although I don't need the glasses as long as the eyepiece is under 20mm f/l.
1) TeleVue Nagler zoom 3-6mm. I don't think Pentax makes a zoom in these focal lengths. Used 70% of the time.
2) Televue Panoptic 24mm used with 2x and 3x Televue 1.25" barlows. Used 15% of the time.
3) Any handy Ethos or UO ortho. The 10mm Ethos is great at 60x for scanning the Milky Way. Probably the last 15% of the time.


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Re: televue 85 ep's & accessories new [Re: Jim7728]
      #5873576 - 05/20/13 11:53 AM

I've found the Manfrotto 475 to be a sturdy tripod for use with my 80/480 triplet that's a bit heavier than a TV85; the individually adjustable leg spreaders and geared center column are very handy IMO.

It's certainly rigid enough for use at over 200x on Mars, for example, if necessary. Settle time when the OTA is tapped is around 1 second when set for seated viewing. I personally don't see the need for slow motion controls on small scopes operating at ~200x or less if you have a head with smooth friction control.

Rich


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Re: televue 85 ep's & accessories new [Re: Rich V.]
      #5873643 - 05/20/13 12:34 PM

with the tv-85, is it hard viewing the moon, planets,ect with a tph 1016 head, or gibralter head for that matter, w/o a goto (motorized) system, that would constantly keep correcting the scope? i'm just wondering if it gets aggravating enough to warrant one?
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Re: televue 85 ep's & accessories new [Re: schinia]
      #5873737 - 05/20/13 01:12 PM

An alt/az head like a Universal Astronomics Microstar and a Manfrotto 475 makes a nice match for these small scopes. These are grab-n-go rigs that are easy to set up and use. With a little practice, tracking at 200x or less becomes quite easy. The TeleVue mounts are good mounts I'm sure, but they are a bit on the pricey side compared to many competitive mounts on the market.

Motorized tracking is nice for higher mags. if portability and simplicity is less of a concern for you but I find tracking is more important for larger, heavier scopes operating at higher magnifications. YMMV, of course.

I don't know what your experience level is so it's hard to make assumptions for you...

Rich


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Re: televue 85 ep's & accessories new [Re: schinia]
      #5874265 - 05/20/13 05:19 PM

Quote:

Jeff, i found that some so-called experts claim that the GAM 2014 tripod is overkill for the TV-85 ? is the tripod manfrotto bogen 475B digital pro geared, black tripod legs. max payload 26.50 lbs. height 16.6-74" that is on the adorama photo web site, the one you are referring to? also i thought that the pentax 3-6 zoom would eliminate some ep's. is that not a good idea? also do you use a barlow? and or a 1 1/4 60 degree everbrite diagonal? thanks guy. there were also a few that bought the quickpoint, but after awhile replaced it w/starbeam.



Yes, my tripod is the silver version of the 475B, the zoom is a Televue eypiece, never use a Barlow or 60* diagonal, the quick point works fine but the star beam is a great eye candy piece of art.
Good luck with whatever you end up with!


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Re: televue 85 ep's & accessories new [Re: Jeff Gardner]
      #5874287 - 05/20/13 05:29 PM


BTW - if you are looking for a deal on a new TV 85, Woodland Hills has a nice deal going:
telescopes.net/store/wxc-3370-85-complete-ivory.html


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Re: televue 85 ep's & accessories new [Re: Jeff Gardner]
      #5874494 - 05/20/13 07:21 PM

Jeff, thats the discontinued model.

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Re: televue 85 ep's & accessories new [Re: schinia]
      #5874517 - 05/20/13 07:37 PM

Quote:

Jeff, thats the discontinued model.



Sorry, after going back to look again, I realized it lacks the 2 speed focuser


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