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pugliano
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Reged: 06/16/11

Loc: Michigan
Re: 102mm achro for cheap new [Re: DaveG]
      #5984267 - 07/22/13 10:36 AM

Thanks for the heads-up! Jumped on the one with the 2" diagonal.

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anirudha
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Reged: 12/03/12

Re: 102mm achro for cheap new [Re: pugliano]
      #5984274 - 07/22/13 10:43 AM

Awwww man I wish this came up when I was in the US while I was there last week. Or the shipping to India wasn't ridiculous!

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Starlon
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Reged: 04/18/06

Loc: desert, USA
Re: 102mm achro for cheap new [Re: FeynmanFan]
      #5984673 - 07/22/13 03:43 PM

Quote:

Call me crazy-I've already got a 4"-but for $60, with free shipping, I couldn't help myself. They're giving these things away!




Hey - I'm right there with ya ! Like I needed another hole in my head, I too jumped at the deal for the second time. This time I went for the 2" star diagonal option. All for the princely sum of $79.98 - delivered! You can hardly find the diagonal for that little!

.. 'they're coming to take me away ha-ha..

I wonder - are telescopes like boats ? But instead of that hole in the water to throw money into, we have that hole in the sky (or many holes!) to throw money into ?

Edited by Starlon (07/22/13 03:47 PM)


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PeterR280
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Reged: 05/27/13

Re: 102mm achro for cheap new [Re: Starlon]
      #5984698 - 07/22/13 03:58 PM

i almost bought it and then i asked myself what will i do with it? I have a TV102, an ED80 with and an AP130GT on its way.

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Starlon
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Reged: 04/18/06

Loc: desert, USA
Re: 102mm achro for cheap new [Re: PeterR280]
      #5984757 - 07/22/13 04:44 PM

I seem to remember an old Candid Camera show where they were handing out free money. Maybe $1.00 bills. Anyway, the big surprise? The number of people that looked but then decided to keep on walking away...

NOT me! At $59 this 4-inch refractor is nearly the same as free. I once scrimped and saved and borrowed to buy a brand new 4-inch refractor that cost me $465. That was in 1965 and the telescope was a Unitron Model 150. A 4-inch refractor.

I'd love to see a side-by-side test of a 4-inch Unitron and this 4-inch Celestron refractor. In today's dollars that Unitron must be a few thousand bucks! Unbelievable. Some of them were quite good. Not all though. Not as good as this Celstron with its fully multi-coated lens!


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Bob101
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Reged: 01/03/07

Re: 102mm achro for cheap [Re: Starlon]
      #5984794 - 07/22/13 05:06 PM

I got one ordered. I'm going to try and make a pipe mount to go onto my tripod and make it a little more portable than my Atlas.

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Binojunky
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Reged: 12/25/10

Re: 102mm achro for cheap [Re: Bob101]
      #5989695 - 07/25/13 02:42 PM

Had to cancel mine, with shipping and brokerage, taxes etc it was doubling in price from $60 to $120, don,t need it badly enough, once again living in Canada has its price,DA.

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Michael Rapp
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Reged: 04/27/04

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Re: 102mm achro for cheap [Re: Binojunky]
      #5989923 - 07/25/13 04:43 PM

Yep, picked one up too! I agonized for a bit over the 2" diagonal or the one with the 1.25" accessory package. I went with the latter as it comes with a red dot finder that fits and is meant for that tube.

While I would have loved to get the 2" diagonal (it would have given me a nice excuse to pick up my first 2" eyepiece), I decided I'd rather have a fitted red-dot finder and I can pickup a nice 2" diagonal later on.


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pdxmoon
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Reged: 06/27/13

Loc: Oregon
Re: 102mm achro for cheap [Re: Michael Rapp]
      #5990218 - 07/25/13 08:18 PM Attachment (63 downloads)

Mine came today. It's a beautiful monster size. Really excited to look through a 4" refractor!

I have it mounted right now on the Porta II. The weight limit may be high. I'll carefully try it first--it will ride better on the Vixen Polaris but I think I'd need to take the dovetail off the OTA to mount with tube rings, because when I tried mounting it with the rings and the tail it would not fit.

Anyway, it looks formidable!

As a side note, OPT accidently shipped me the package with the 2" diagonal instead of the red dot, etc. My string of luck continues because they are now shipping me the right package and I get to keep the 2". (I know, I now--my good luck continues. It's crazy.) Great customer service, BTW.

So I get to play in the 2" world. If you have 2" eps, I could use your help--I've started a thread in the EP DEPT.


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Rainguy
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Re: 102mm achro for cheap [Re: pdxmoon]
      #5991051 - 07/26/13 10:58 AM

Hi Thom.

Mine arrived yesterday with the 1.25" package. It's huge. But not super heavy. I mounted it on my ES Twilight I mount and it looked and functioned great. But I also have the Orion rings and dovetail on order just to have mount and balance options. The EPs are, surprisingly, good ones: 25mm and 9mm Super Plossls fully multicoated. I'll probably sell these on EBay and recoup half the cost or more of what I paid for this. No, I didn't really need this but, to paraphrase one of your earlier comments: "Hey, all this for 80 bucks, I mean c'mon!"

That, and I am at that point in my life when Need and Want have melded into one.

Doug


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Widespread
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Reged: 05/11/11

Loc: Bowling Green, Kentucky
Re: 102mm achro for cheap [Re: Rainguy]
      #5991078 - 07/26/13 11:11 AM

PDX,

Mine rides great on the original Porta, but I have wooden legs on it, which helps.

You are really on a hot streak; have you considered buying a lottery ticket?

Best,
David


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MDearingJaxFL
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Reged: 08/28/04

Loc: Florida
Re: 102mm achro for cheap [Re: Widespread]
      #5991196 - 07/26/13 12:21 PM

Just received my 102mm; looks nice.

:>) Mark


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csrlice12
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Reged: 05/22/12

Loc: Denver, CO
Re: 102mm achro for cheap [Re: Starlon]
      #5991273 - 07/26/13 01:09 PM

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Huh. I also jumped on the sale. It's a good scope - good price. But look what I just found: http://www.telescopes.com/telescopes/go-to-telescopes/celestronnexstar102gtco...




Looks like someone's picked up the Costco 102GT package year round now.......although at Costco is was $199.....maybe wait a few more month's and Costco will have them again....


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pdxmoon
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Reged: 06/27/13

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Re: 102mm achro for cheap [Re: Rainguy]
      #5991316 - 07/26/13 01:46 PM

Quote:

Hi Thom.

Mine arrived yesterday with the 1.25" package. It's huge. But not super heavy. I mounted it on my ES Twilight I mount and it looked and functioned great. But I also have the Orion rings and dovetail on order just to have mount and balance options. The EPs are, surprisingly, good ones: 25mm and 9mm Super Plossls fully multicoated. I'll probably sell these on EBay and recoup half the cost or more of what I paid for this. No, I didn't really need this but, to paraphrase one of your earlier comments: "Hey, all this for 80 bucks, I mean c'mon!"

That, and I am at that point in my life when Need and Want have melded into one.

Doug




Doug:

Mine vibrating like the devil on the Porta last night. But then again, I just had it mounted with the little dove that comes attached. Going to try with a bigger dove bar and rings, and if that doe't work, this one goes on the Vixen.

I know what you mean about "want" and "need!" I'm also there.


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jrbarnett
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Reged: 02/28/06

Loc: Petaluma, CA
Re: 102mm achro for cheap [Re: pdxmoon]
      #5991325 - 07/26/13 01:51 PM

Adding some vibration suppression pads to the feet of the tripod also will help a bit and be useful with any mount you have.

- Jim


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Koala117
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Reged: 05/11/13

Re: 102mm achro for cheap [Re: jrbarnett]
      #5991619 - 07/26/13 04:38 PM

Removed by me. My question was answered in an above picture! For some reason, it didn't load when I read this thread. Ha!

Edited by Koala117 (07/26/13 04:40 PM)


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Starhawk
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Re: 102mm achro for cheap [Re: Koala117]
      #5991714 - 07/26/13 05:42 PM

The Costco variant was already a stupid good deal- the mount by itself sold for $279, so when you got one for $200, they were paying you $79 to take a 102mm refractor and some beginner's eyepieces with it.

And to top it of, the scope is awesome. I know I will get incoming fire for this, but I have to tell the truth- it has less CA than a TV-85. Top that off with the mount actually works incredibly well with a C80ED or a C5, and it's definitely a kick-in the door to the hobby deal.

My only complaint is this wasn't available when I was 7.

-Rich

Edited by Starhawk (07/26/13 05:50 PM)


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jrbarnett
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Reged: 02/28/06

Loc: Petaluma, CA
Re: 102mm achro for cheap [Re: Starhawk]
      #5991744 - 07/26/13 06:05 PM

"My only complaint is this wasn't available when I was 7."

I find myself saying the same thing these days.

- Jim


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Koala117
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Reged: 05/11/13

Re: 102mm achro for cheap [Re: Starhawk]
      #5991760 - 07/26/13 06:16 PM

Starhawk, could the longer focal ratio of the 102(f/9.8) achro play enough of a role in the difference vs. the tv-85 focal ratio(f/7) to actually make it better than a very expensive thing like a TV vs. an $80 Celestron?

~f/10 isn't really that slow, if I understand FR correctly and how it affects CA. I have an f/11 80mm and there is a *little* on the Moon.

Bear in mind, I own neither of these and likely will never own a TV(yay being poor >.<). I am merely curious as to what it is about the 2 you mentioned that would make that the case!

Would you be willing to show pictures through each with similar magnifications with no filters? I bet lots would be interested to see this! I know I would as the Celestron 102 is something that I could actually afford(once I got a mount that supports it that is ).


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pugliano
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Reged: 06/16/11

Loc: Michigan
Re: 102mm achro for cheap [Re: pugliano]
      #5991819 - 07/26/13 06:55 PM

IT's HERE!!! Now I just have to decide on a mount.

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