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spongebob@55
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Bresser Messier 127L f/9.4 from Explore Scientific
      #6173381 - 11/03/13 09:55 AM

I spoke to ES the other day about their Bresser Messier line of scopes. Evidently, they are going to sell/distribute them here in the USA. Since I was interested in a 127 with a longer f/l, I noted they have a 127L f/9.4 1200mm f/l achromat. It has a single speed 2" focuser with 1.25" adapter, an illuminated straight through finder with large center circle, 2" standard diagonal with brass ring, its collimatable and a pull off dew shield, rings and rail. A 26mm EP Messier EP. $450 shipped.
Can anyone who has one tell me about the quality of the optics and build? And anything else? Would love to get this scope.
Thanks
Bob

Edited by spongebob@55 (11/03/13 04:23 PM)


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Re: Messier 127L f/9.4 f/l1200 by Explore Scientific new [Re: spongebob@55]
      #6173555 - 11/03/13 11:26 AM

It's probably very similar to the old Meade AR5, so I bet it's an excellent achromat. The AR5 I had was made extremely well, pretty much built like tank. Optics were top notch and it was an excellent performer on double stars and for lunar/planetary work. CA will be there obviously, but it's no worse than what you get out of the Celestron 102.

That's a darn good price considering Astrozap sells the same scope for $579.


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Re: Messier 127L f/9.4 f/l1200 by Explore Scientific new [Re: DaveG]
      #6173989 - 11/03/13 03:52 PM

Quote:

It's probably very similar to the old Meade AR5, so I bet it's an excellent achromat. The AR5 I had was made extremely well, pretty much built like tank. Optics were top notch and it was an excellent performer on double stars and for lunar/planetary work. CA will be there obviously, but it's no worse than what you get out of the Celestron 102.

That's a darn good price considering Astrozap sells the same scope for $579.




I was also thinking that it would be very similar to the AR-5. But I couldn't really find much about this Messier. Its sold in Europe, but only is starting out here through Explore Sci. A little disappointed that it has a single speed focuser, but as long as the optics are good, I can always change that out once I would find it to be under performing. I have the Celestron 102mm f9.8 and just love it so with out going too big or fast is perfect for me and perhaps for others not wanting a very fast refractor.
I have some questions into ES and hope to discuss with them tomorrow. I will hope the spec that ES/JOC specified will be good. It could be a winner if it has good performance for an achromat.
BTW, ES will sell 'long' and 'short' focal length Messier Achromats in sizes up to 152mm. Also will be selling a less expensive, non water proof eyepiece line under the Messier name too.
Regards,
Spongebob


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Re: Messier 127L f/9.4 f/l1200 by Explore Scientific new [Re: spongebob@55]
      #6174017 - 11/03/13 04:13 PM

I've owned a Bresser Messier 127L and a Meade AR5 LXD75 (with the collimatible objective cell) and they seemed to be identical except for the branding. Optically, the Bresser was the better scope though so there might be some variation in the quality of these.

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Re: Bresser Messier 127L f/9.4 from Explore Scientific new [Re: spongebob@55]
      #6174391 - 11/03/13 08:08 PM

The Bresser website states that the 127L is f/8.

http://www.bresser.com/telescopes/messier_ar127l.html

How did you come up with f/9.4?

Edited by Ennis (11/03/13 08:08 PM)


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Re: Bresser Messier 127L f/9.4 from Explore Scientific new [Re: Ennis]
      #6174403 - 11/03/13 08:17 PM

The info on the Bresser site is incorrect. The 127L has a 1200mm focal length and sports a 127mm objective, which is the exact same specs as the Meade AR5. It's a f/9.4 achro.

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Re: Bresser Messier 127L f/9.4 from Explore Scientific new [Re: DaveG]
      #6174854 - 11/04/13 04:39 AM

I have had my Bresser AR127L for a few weeks now and for how little it cost im very impressed with the quality of the optics you do get some CA around bright objects like Jupiter and the moon and the very bright stars like vega and cappela etc but its not a massive amount and easly controlled with the correct filter ..as for build quality its solid and very well built ..

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Re: Bresser Messier 127L f/9.4 from Explore Scientific new [Re: darren8se]
      #6174855 - 11/04/13 04:40 AM

oh and on the side of the scope it says F9.5 so I can confirm that the specs on the Europe website are incorrect hope this helps

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Re: Bresser Messier 127L f/9.4 from Explore Scientific new [Re: darren8se]
      #6175273 - 11/04/13 11:30 AM

Is this Bresser 127L scope available right now in the USA?

Thank you.


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Re: Bresser Messier 127L f/9.4 from Explore Scientific new [Re: spongebob@55]
      #6175304 - 11/04/13 11:52 AM

I just spoke with "Jacob" (via on-line chat) at Explore Scientific, and he told me that they have the scope in stock but are undergoing some sort of price change, etc. He promised to send me updated information later this week.

E.


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Re: Bresser Messier 127L f/9.4 from Explore Scientific new [Re: Ennis]
      #6175327 - 11/04/13 12:10 PM

Price change? They better not change this price after quoting me it directly a couple of weeks ago. I did ask for the price of the Messier 152mm and it was higher than the Celestron synta so I asked how they were going to compete with a scope that already was lower in price and established. Also their Messier 102mm has stiff competition and must be priced right to compete with the excellent 102mm f9.8 even priced at the 'regular' price and not $59 ;-). Of course they could load them up with accessories, but at this level, they're not what some of us would use since we have stuff like diagonals, EPs, etc. I guess it comes down to the demographic they're targeting. They're doing the same with their Bresser EPs they're coming out with....no gas purging, not water proof but the same glass and lower pricing...

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Re: Bresser Messier 127L f/9.4 from Explore Scientific new [Re: spongebob@55]
      #6176791 - 11/05/13 04:50 AM







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Re: Bresser Messier 127L f/9.4 from Explore Scientific new [Re: UND_astrophysics]
      #6176801 - 11/05/13 05:13 AM

Hey, at least their not looking at the ground and they have an ep in there...

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Re: Bresser Messier 127L f/9.4 from Explore Scientific new [Re: T1R2]
      #6176808 - 11/05/13 05:32 AM

But what are they looking at in the far northeast daytime sky?


Clear skies!
Thomas, Denmark


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Re: Bresser Messier 127L f/9.4 from Explore Scientific new [Re: Astrojensen]
      #6176868 - 11/05/13 07:12 AM

Quote:

But what are they looking at in the far northeast daytime sky?








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Re: Bresser Messier 127L f/9.4 from Explore Scientific new [Re: UND_astrophysics]
      #6177585 - 11/05/13 02:53 PM

I thought I was the only one to see that movie.

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Re: Bresser Messier 127L f/9.4 from Explore Scientific new [Re: mattz]
      #6177621 - 11/05/13 03:16 PM

I saw the movie too on flight to Japan. Very odd movie. It doesn't end well.

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Re: Bresser Messier 127L f/9.4 from Explore Scientific new [Re: PeterR280]
      #6177634 - 11/05/13 03:27 PM

What movie is it? I think I've seen it, but I am not sure.


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Re: Bresser Messier 127L f/9.4 from Explore Scientific new [Re: Astrojensen]
      #6178141 - 11/05/13 08:31 PM

Yes, you might tell us what movie it is! I assure you that few of us know. Is that Kiefer Sutherland in the pic?

OK, let me guess: "Melancholia" (2011), right?

Edited by Ennis (11/05/13 09:01 PM)


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Re: Bresser Messier 127L f/9.4 from Explore Scientific new [Re: Ennis]
      #6178190 - 11/05/13 09:02 PM

The name of the movie is Melancholia.

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Re: Bresser Messier 127L f/9.4 from Explore Scientific new [Re: spongebob@55]
      #6180991 - 11/07/13 12:47 PM

Well, guess what, folks! I just spoke with Michelle Rodriguez at Explore Scientific, and she informed me that ES will NOT be selling the 127L after all, only the 127S. She apologized profusely for the previous misinformation and implied that it was not ES's decision. She also informed me that I could purchase the 127L from Bresser in Europe. I'm not sure how good an option that is, however.

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Re: Bresser Messier 127L f/9.4 from Explore Scientific new [Re: Ennis]
      #6181452 - 11/07/13 04:53 PM

I think the Astrozap is very similar- 127mm, 1200mm f.l. $579 with free shipping from Woodland Hills Camera.

http://telescopes.net/store/astrozap-127mm-f-9-refractor-telescope-ota.html


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Re: Bresser Messier 127L f/9.4 from Explore Scientific new [Re: Ennis]
      #6181459 - 11/07/13 04:55 PM

Quote:

Well, guess what, folks! I just spoke with Michelle Rodriguez at Explore Scientific, and she informed me that ES will NOT be selling the 127L after all, only the 127S. She apologized profusely for the previous misinformation and implied that it was not ES's decision. She also informed me that I could purchase the 127L from Bresser in Europe. I'm not sure how good an option that is, however.




Yeah, I got an e mail from my contact too saying the same. I bet someone didn't know about an old distribution agreement or something!
I wonder what the price from Bresser EU would be along with the import costs? Very disappointed. I guess I'll have to look for a AR-5 used somewhere.
Sbob


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Re: Bresser Messier 127L f/9.4 from Explore Scientific new [Re: spongebob@55]
      #6181486 - 11/07/13 05:14 PM

I'll have to wait for someone to sell a clone for the price ES was going to....$450 with free shipping.......

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Re: Bresser Messier 127L f/9.4 from Explore Scientific new [Re: spongebob@55]
      #6181767 - 11/07/13 08:16 PM

Anyone owned or used the Astrozap 127 F/9.5?

I have an e-mail in to Bresser asking about price, shipping, etc.

E.


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Re: Bresser Messier 127L f/9.4 from Explore Scientific new [Re: spongebob@55]
      #6181866 - 11/07/13 09:23 PM

Toys R us and Hobby Lobby distributes them in the USA.

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Re: Bresser Messier 127L f/9.4 from Explore Scientific new [Re: Ennis]
      #6181869 - 11/07/13 09:28 PM

http://www.teleskop-express.de/shop/product_info.php/info/p680_ELITE-127-Refr...

US $ 540 before shipping and import costs. To high for me.


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Re: Bresser Messier 127L f/9.4 from Explore Scientific new [Re: spongebob@55]
      #6182229 - 11/08/13 03:17 AM

Hi I got mine recently via Amazon

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bresser-telescope-Messier-AR-127L-1200/dp/B002SY9JNU

I have no idea if they would send to the USA


Gordon


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Re: Bresser Messier 127L f/9.4 from Explore Scientific new [Re: spongebob@55]
      #6182326 - 11/08/13 06:25 AM

- Bresser Messier 127/1200 OTA @ 369€ (494 US$). Shipping GLS: 176.90€ (237.15 US$)
www.astroshop.eu/p,13233

- Bresser Messier 152/1200 OTA @ 476€ (638 US$): Shipping DHL Premium: 111.90€ (150.01 US$).
www.astroshop.eu/p,20908

In both cases you may save some bucks.


I think that is the cheaper online shop we got in Europe selling Bresser AC telescopes.
There may be others the same price, but they are not much known, so you better go with known dealers.


I purchased from Astroshop always and they offer quite a good price.
Overall I'm a happy customer of astroshop. But their consumer support service is not that good. I mean, they will replace you broken pieces or send missing parts and such, but your email questions will probably need 2 or 3 days to get and answer. And even when they are polite, they are rather "short on words". Once I asked them to send me a missing part. They didn't answered my mail at all, but one day a DHL guy appeared with the missing parts at my door. During that week I was guessing if they received my email or even if they sent it directly to the bin...

Also we got teleskop-express, who is well known here. They are the direct competitors with astroshop. Although I never purchased from them, their prices are usually lower than those in astroshop. I would purchase from teleskop-express, but since only astroshop had what I needed, then I had no choice.
Their customer support is better. They will answer you really fast, very polite and friendly.
Actually I'm going to pruchase some things from them before end of december.


In either case, both of them are excelent dealers and the cheapest ones you can find around Europe.


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Re: Bresser Messier 127L f/9.4 from Explore Scientific new [Re: Yamato]
      #6196189 - 11/15/13 09:45 AM

Quote:

- Bresser Messier 127/1200 OTA @ 369€ (494 US$). Shipping GLS: 176.90€ (237.15 US$)
www.astroshop.eu/p,13233

- Bresser Messier 152/1200 OTA @ 476€ (638 US$): Shipping DHL Premium: 111.90€ (150.01 US$).
www.astroshop.eu/p,20908

In both cases you may save some bucks.


I think that is the cheaper online shop we got in Europe selling Bresser AC telescopes.
There may be others the same price, but they are not much known, so you better go with known dealers.


I purchased from Astroshop always and they offer quite a good price.
Overall I'm a happy customer of astroshop. But their consumer support service is not that good. I mean, they will replace you broken pieces or send missing parts and such, but your email questions will probably need 2 or 3 days to get and answer. And even when they are polite, they are rather "short on words". Once I asked them to send me a missing part. They didn't answered my mail at all, but one day a DHL guy appeared with the missing parts at my door. During that week I was guessing if they received my email or even if they sent it directly to the bin...

Also we got teleskop-express, who is well known here. They are the direct competitors with astroshop. Although I never purchased from them, their prices are usually lower than those in astroshop. I would purchase from teleskop-express, but since only astroshop had what I needed, then I had no choice.
Their customer support is better. They will answer you really fast, very polite and friendly.
Actually I'm going to pruchase some things from them before end of december.


In either case, both of them are excelent dealers and the cheapest ones you can find around Europe.




Well I asked APM to give me the pricing on the 127L and the answer was: "Export price is 311 Euro plus shipping DHL 75 Euro. You have to pay your taxes and customs." So at current rate that's US $519 plus whatever customs cost would be.(75-100?) Certainly this is way above the ES quoted delivered price. So to me, its not worth it with the added hassle of importation, cost, chance of issues, communications gap, etc. Oh well.


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Re: Bresser Messier 127L f/9.4 from Explore Scientific new [Re: spongebob@55]
      #6196440 - 11/15/13 12:00 PM

Is this scope signicantly better than the "common" Orion 120mm f8.3 ?

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Re: Bresser Messier 127L f/9.4 from Explore Scientific new [Re: BigC]
      #6196584 - 11/15/13 01:38 PM

I was focused on this 1200mm f/9.4 because of its longer f/l (in theory less CA) and the fact that I already have a 1000mm f/l 102mm achromat. With all the excitement about the Celestron 102mm f/9.8 I was hoping to get a little more light gathering for my grab and go set up. I don't want any short f/l refractor for my white light pollution area.
IMO for whatever the reason that ES can't or won't now sell the long version, its a marketing mistake, especially at a $450 shipped price point. Imagine the excitement it could produce?


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Re: Bresser Messier 127L f/9.4 from Explore Scientific new [Re: spongebob@55]
      #6196948 - 11/15/13 06:31 PM

Have you looked at the Astrozap version of the same scope? I believe it is $579.

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Re: Bresser Messier 127L f/9.4 from Explore Scientific new [Re: spongebob@55]
      #6197805 - 11/16/13 09:19 AM

Quote:

With all the excitement about the Celestron 102mm f/9.8 I was hoping to get a little more light gathering for my grab and go set up.




Wait, wait.
The Bresser 127mm is 7kg and 1.2meters long.
The 152mm is 11kg and the same length.
I saw once a 152/1200 and it is a beast. I wouldn't call it grab&go. At least not as grab&go'able as a 100/1000 or a 80/700.

Plus also take into account that for the 152mm an EQ5 will be undermounted, so you will need a HEQ5.
And for the 127mm the EQ5 would me near its limit.


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Re: Bresser Messier 127L f/9.4 from Explore Scientific new [Re: Yamato]
      #6197882 - 11/16/13 10:08 AM

My definition of grab and go is much heavier than most anyone else's. I always use a EQ-6 Go to. And my 102mm has rings and a handle that I use to mount it with 1 hand. Compared to my other scopes, that's soooo easy. With non Go To mounts, its just too hard and time consuming to find things in my light polluted area. I've had a carbon triplet f/8 152 for a short while and it did fine, so I know. But I don't want a 152.....I have a 180mm Mak for planetary, moon and tighter DSOs now. But if I could find a longer f/l 127 achromat like this f/9.4 it would help with my particular set of viewing requirements. And one that wouldn't break the bank.
That's why I thought, after viewing for a half year with the 102mm f/9.8, that it would be as/even more enjoyable. So I hope this explains it a little more.
It still comes down to my opinion that ES reversal is quite disappointing to me and evidently others since they had a few orders in process when they reversed their sales strategy.
Regards,
Bob


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Re: Bresser Messier 127L f/9.4 from Explore Scientific new [Re: spongebob@55]
      #6206928 - 11/21/13 04:04 AM

Hi I don't know if you have seen these people ?

http://www.sale-telescopes.com/products/Bresser-Messier-AR%252d127L-127mm-Ach...


regards gordon


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Re: Bresser Messier 127L f/9.4 from Explore Scientific new [Re: seafury]
      #6206930 - 11/21/13 04:12 AM

Hi again evidently a scam site stay well clear sorry didn't realise

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Re: Bresser Messier 127L f/9.4 from Explore Scientific new [Re: seafury]
      #6207188 - 11/21/13 09:33 AM

Not a problem. Thanks anyway. Just points out the need for Bresser to address this with a seller/distributor in the USA!

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Re: Bresser Messier 127L f/9.4 from Explore Scientific new [Re: spongebob@55]
      #6207533 - 11/21/13 12:59 PM

Just purchased the AR 127L and tracking system.. shipping is a little steep, but looks worth it overall. Could not control my mouse finger when it hovered over "Add to shopping cart". I will give a report when it arrives.

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Re: Bresser Messier 127L f/9.4 from Explore Scientific new [Re: UND_astrophysics]
      #6207592 - 11/21/13 01:29 PM

Excellent. PM sent.

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Re: Bresser Messier 127L f/9.4 from Explore Scientific new [Re: spongebob@55]
      #6304936 - 01/10/14 08:14 PM

Well interesting email from Agena Astro.....Coming Soon......
Bresser eyepieces and telescopes....

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Re: Bresser Messier 127L f/9.4 from Explore Scientific new [Re: spongebob@55]
      #6304944 - 01/10/14 08:19 PM

Mr. Bob:

Do you think Agena Astro will sell the Messier 127L f/9.4?

Thank you.


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Re: Bresser Messier 127L f/9.4 from AgenaAstro new [Re: Ennis]
      #6305041 - 01/10/14 09:30 PM

Quote:

Mr. Bob:

Do you think Agena Astro will sell the Messier 127L f/9.4?

Thank you.




I don't know. I posted it here since I thought that there would be guys out there who wanted to buy it. But I haven't sent them an E mail since having been jerked around by ES on this subject, the line has lost my business.......I bought the Celestron 6" SCT.....beautiful views and good contrast and no CA. Too bad, huh?
But Agenaastro is a great company. They will be selling the Messier EPs too. Send them an email and let everyone know....
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Re: Bresser Messier 127L f/9.4 from AgenaAstro new [Re: spongebob@55]
      #6344177 - 01/29/14 09:57 PM

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Mr. Bob:

Do you think Agena Astro will sell the Messier 127L f/9.4?

Thank you.




I don't know. I posted it here since I thought that there would be guys out there who wanted to buy it. But I haven't sent them an E mail since having been jerked around by ES on this subject, the line has lost my business.......I bought the Celestron 6" SCT.....beautiful views and good contrast and no CA. Too bad, huh?
But Agenaastro is a great company. They will be selling the Messier EPs too. Send them an email and let everyone know....
Regards,
Sbob





Well it seems that AgenaAstro will have one by the end of next week, 2/7/14. Will be getting them from ES. (Now we know the rest of the story) Price is $499, nothing special I thought. I didn't get any information as to what that includes. Now to wait for the details and the first light report from someone.
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Re: Bresser Messier 127L f/9.4 from AgenaAstro new [Re: spongebob@55]
      #6344192 - 01/29/14 10:08 PM

$499 is cheap for good 5" achromat, no?

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Re: Bresser Messier 127L f/9.4 from AgenaAstro new [Re: AustinAstronomer]
      #6344947 - 01/30/14 11:32 AM

I don't know.....it depends on the 'stuff' that comes with it and the level of quality. Take a look at the first post on this thread..... We'll have to see once Agenaastro puts it on its website, or someone gets information from them. Most likely its not higher quality diagonal, or rings or finder, but who knows. Especially with ES's big price increase on most of their products. (When I first started this thread the price for that scope was $450 shipped.) But I'm glad that AA will be handling it. Good peeps.

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Re: Bresser Messier 127L f/9.4 from AgenaAstro new [Re: spongebob@55]
      #6347728 - 01/31/14 05:48 PM

Well, it appears that the Bresser that AgenaAstro is selling is the 127S, which is a f/5, not the f/9.4. Too bad.

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Re: Bresser Messier 127L f/9.4 from AgenaAstro new [Re: spongebob@55]
      #6347867 - 01/31/14 06:58 PM

Yes, the mass email was sent out by Agena earlier today and its website reflects the Bresser offerings ("out of stock" at this time) but the email clarifies they will be available for purchase late next week. Yep, it's a faster 5" achro version, not the longer FL one, again, at this time.

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Re: Bresser Messier 127L f/9.4 from Explore Scientific new [Re: spongebob@55]
      #6352609 - 02/03/14 06:34 AM

Just found out that 'Andrews Communications' here in Australia are selling the Bresser AR127L on EXOS3 ( EQ5) mount , 9-15 and 25mm plossls , 2x barlow and red LED torch for $999 aud with free shipping Australia wide .

Man that's a great price for a nice looking set up , handsome looking scope and if the optics are as good as the old Meade refractors they will be great performers .
It would be great if someone here in Perth got one so we can do a side by side with my Istar 127mm f8 achromat.

BTW the 102 is $899aud and the 152 is $1399aud , same set up .
Well done Andrews and I think they will sell quite a few at those prices especially given the extras they are throwing in .

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Re: Bresser Messier 127L f/9.4 from Explore Scientific new [Re: beanerds]
      #6355602 - 02/04/14 01:50 PM

This 5" achromat (the "L" version) should be the same scope as Meade's 5" achromat (AR5), sold till couple of years ago with the LXD-75 mount (I think it was priced at $1K in the US and never offered as an OTA only deal). I had the 6" version. It seems they did pretty much only a cosmetic change at this time. Many users liked the Meade version at the time, per their CN postings. I see no reason for a different performance now.

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