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Davo
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Loc: Scotland
Re: PST serial # list. new [Re: rsbfoto]
      #1259212 - 11/19/06 01:25 PM

Hi,

Mine has rust but I haven't returned it yet. It is #98670 (gold).


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Bucephelus
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Re: PST serial # list. new [Re: rsbfoto]
      #1259368 - 11/19/06 02:59 PM

Even though I really love Meade, I've completely lost my nerve to spend $$$$$$ on the SM60 I was going to order this week. Until things cool off with the failures I'm just not comfortable...

Chris


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rsbfoto
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Re: PST serial # list. new [Re: Richard B. Drumm]
      #1259504 - 11/19/06 04:14 PM

Quote:

Hola, Rainer!
I'm sorry to see the rust in your lens! Not good!
I see also the red paint on the threads and that both of them have the red paint.... Is this to keep things from unscrewing?
What's with the scratched up hole? It just looks like sloppy workmanship.
I've never heard of a BF30, who makes it?
Rich




Hi Richard,

Look this is how a BF30 looks like.

http://www.rainerehlert.com/astro/Sol/BF30-02.jpg

Of course that is the 2" barrel only. Is has on top of it another part which accepts 2" nosepieces like from an Eyepiece or a Diagonal.


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Darren Hiebert
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Re: PST serial # list. new [Re: Richard B. Drumm]
      #1259861 - 11/19/06 08:04 PM

My PST is S/N 96714 with a blue objective which went bad and was repaired last December. The replacement objective went bad and I am still awaiting (for 4 weeks now) a return call from Meade to get it fixed again.

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Richard B. Drumm
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Reged: 07/14/05

Loc: Albemarle Co. Virginia
Re: PST serial # list. new [Re: Davo]
      #1260104 - 11/19/06 10:48 PM

Davo:
Could you post an image of your objective here so we can see what a sick gold-coated objective looks like? As you can see from the list, scopes with SNs like yours generally have blue (and sick) objectives. I'm extremely curious about your scope's objective. How easy is it to see into the lens?

I've gotta PM Daniel in Illinois (#97491) and get him to post an image of his scope too, though his isn't sick. It may be that he got his repaired and they put a gold objective in as part of the repair.

Rainer:
So the hole in the retaining ring is for a spanner. I had thought that was a possibility, but didn't say so in the post. I can clearly see the cloudiness at the edge. It's back to Meade with that one, I'm so sorry for you!


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Richard B. Drumm
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Reged: 07/14/05

Loc: Albemarle Co. Virginia
Re: PST serial # list. new [Re: Richard B. Drumm]
      #1267617 - 11/24/06 08:52 PM

Here's the latest list. Erika had been modifying the first post for me (thank you, Erika!), but I think some folks have been missing the list because they (like me) let their computer take them to the "new" post at the current end of the thread, not to the head of the thread. So to save time, I'll post the list here at the end of the thread and thus ensure that it'll get seen more easily.

Still waiting to hear from Davo or Daniel...
Rich
---------------------------------
94606 sick - Gary Meehan "AXAF" in Boston
94991 sick - David "ad701xx" in Oregon
95104 was blue, now gold - Tom Lawson "Guner" in NJ - repaired twice!
95166 sick - James Suarez "Jim7728" in NY - the old one.
95424 sick - Julio Cesar in Madrid - before repair
96367 sick - "Zoomster" in Fla.- now repaired.
96714 sick, repaired, sick again! Darren Hiebert in Alabama
97148 sick - Bill Leslie "bill-in-forres" Scotland
97449 not sick yet, blue - Steve Durham in NY
97468 sick - Bruce Raemsch "Carpe Noctum" in Cal., returned, lost by Meade, replaced.
97491 gold - Daniel Steinke in Illinois - bought used, repaired?
98131 not sick yet, blue/transparent - Gustavo Phols in Mexico
98670 sick & gold! "Davo" in Scotland
98773 sick - Gregor(slo) in Slovenia
98994 sick - Steve "molniyabeer" in Italia
99309 sick - Michelle "JARSHEART" in Fla.
99335 sick - Kelly "Trombone"
99493 sick - Adrian Guzman "solmax" in San Jose, CA - repaired with blue glass.
99760 sick - (brand new in box - Discovery Store) - Steven Kim "kimsc321" in NJ
99807 sick - "Ike"
100054 sick - Ben Ritchie in Bosham, UK
100360 sick - Rick in Tokyo
100658 sick - Jim from NJ Night Sky

100706 gold - Ed Kessler in PA
100727 gold - Bill K. "SprintCar Driver" in California
100922 gold - justin2992 in Philly
100942 gold - LBartolomei in Minnesota
101040 gold - "jgraham" in Ohio
101147 gold - Julio Cesar's friend Oriol in Barcelona
101168 gold - Julio Cesar's replacement PST
101230 gold - me
101337 gold - Gerald Bokowy "chemkelly" in Illinois

101369 blue - James Suarez "Jim7728" in NY - the new one.
101680 blue - Bill "Bonco" in Fla.
102xxx clear-blue/sick/bubbles - (brand new in box - Adorama NYC) - Steven Kim "kimsc321" in NJ
102024 clear-blue/sick/bubbles - (brand new in box - Meade replacement) - Steven Kim "kimsc321" in NJ
---------------------------------
The first group are the ones that had the problem. Blue lenses, one transparent...
The second group are the gold ones.
The last group are the new type, with blue lenses (either transparent or opaque???)


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LarryAlvarez
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Reged: 08/12/05

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Re: PST serial # list. new [Re: Richard B. Drumm]
      #1267622 - 11/24/06 08:57 PM

Wow, there's alot of units between 94606 and 100706. Has anyone reported an older unit that hasn't hazed yet? Clear Skyz, LA

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Davo
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Reged: 09/24/04

Loc: Scotland
Re: PST serial # list. new [Re: LarryAlvarez]
      #1268475 - 11/25/06 02:15 PM Attachment (480 downloads)

Here is a pic of my rusty PST as requested. I may have been getting confuesd by the gold colour of the rust.

Edited by Davo (11/25/06 02:16 PM)


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Richard B. Drumm
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Re: PST serial # list. new [Re: Davo]
      #1268725 - 11/25/06 04:55 PM

Davo:
It does look gold, but it may be that it has yellowed, like Jim7728s scope yellowed.
His was blue, then the whole thing changed to yellow!
Your image shows walls behind the OTA that look like they're "peach" coloured...
The reflected image of the wall color looks yellower...

Your 98670 serial number puts you in the "Blue" camp, though...
Unless I'm reading too much into the serial numbers than's good for me...
Once I thought I was wrong, but I was mistaken.
Either way, it goes back to Meade... Sigh!
Rich


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NickH
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Reged: 05/09/06

Loc: Wiltshire, UK (near StoneHenge...
Re: PST serial # list. new [Re: Richard B. Drumm]
      #1268843 - 11/25/06 06:40 PM

Richard

I think the whole PST community has to be grateful to you for compiling this list and making the public aware of the extent and seriousness of the problem. However, you are not a Meade/Coronado employee, and I for one still find it a strange that nothing official has been said, despite you evidentially proving that the problem does extend to far more than the originally stated number of units (200 from a sequential batch), and also appears to be impacting units outside of this supposed "oxidation" run, Russ hinted at.

Surely the decent thing for any company to do (and I can cite my own, who, when we detected a problem with a large synthesiser power supply, immediately put out a webpage and press release on the matter), would be to state

1: That they are aware of this issue, and that users affected by it, should be able to return their unit to be repaired with no cost to them or questions asked, if they have the rust problem.

2: Obviously quell any fears users may have about the safety compromise (or not) that this problem would induce in their solar scopes. People are using their eyes to look at the Sun, and any hint of a problem, could be one which worried consumers. I believe their is no saftey issue, but to have no officially posted from their own website, confirmation of this, is somewhat worrying I feel.

Meade are a fine company, and a world leader in astronomical products. The impact and fallout this may have on the entire solar industry (as people could just pass on "Chinese WHsper style" messages about solar viewing in general being dangerous,), could be stopped by a simple statement.

Not everybody affected reads this website, or indeed any forums, but most owners of a product will visit the official company homepage and forums.

It just makes common, moral and financial sense (long term) to be open and clarify the problem, once and for all, and not rely on the good will of people like yourself, and others on this forum (including the moderators who have done a sterling job in keeping the sticky threads relating to the PST rust issue going) to do their work for them

Just my 2 cents...

Edited by NickH (11/25/06 06:42 PM)


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ErixAdministrator
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Reged: 12/25/04

Loc: Texas, USA
Re: PST serial # list. new [Re: NickH]
      #1268952 - 11/25/06 08:02 PM

Ok, folks. This has been gone over several times. As per the Terms of Service

Quote:

Cloudynights is not an open air forum for vendor complaints. If you seek resolution, we recommend you talk to the vendor. If you seek an audience, we recommend you go elsewhere.




As a community, we are indeed trying to help each other by having threads such as this. But we need to keep the threads productive instead of rehashing over and over again how we feel things should be done.


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GUNER
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Re: PST serial # list. new [Re: Erix]
      #1270693 - 11/27/06 12:11 AM

NickH:
I think you are mistaken. Their is no post that states that the "rust" problem involved "200 from a sequential batch". No one has ever posted how many units were affected by this problem. I did state in one of my posts that I talked to Andy Lunt from Coronado at NEAF last year & that he said that he made up "about 200" of the gold objectives as a test to fix the problem & that it was successful but that it was too costly for production.


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NickH
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Reged: 05/09/06

Loc: Wiltshire, UK (near StoneHenge...
Re: PST serial # list. new [Re: GUNER]
      #1271036 - 11/27/06 09:25 AM

I stand corrected, "about 200" to fix the problem led me to believe it was only this number. Seems like it is closer to the thousands though sadly. I really do hope to see some positive "large scale" action on this soon. Thanks all for your feedback and input, it's helping a few guys in the UK get this resolved also.

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Gregor(SLO)
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Reged: 04/23/05

Loc: Slovenia
Re: PST serial # list. new [Re: NickH]
      #1291617 - 12/08/06 07:57 AM

....I just recived a replacement for my sick PST (98773) with a complete new unit (new transparent lens design - serial 101627).




Gregor


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Julio Cesar
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Reged: 02/24/04

Loc: Madrid, Spain
Re: PST serial # list. new [Re: Gregor(SLO)]
      #1291637 - 12/08/06 08:30 AM

Congratulations Gregor.

Please let us know about performance of your new PST. Meade Germany did his job


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Richard B. Drumm
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Loc: Albemarle Co. Virginia
Re: PST serial # list. new [Re: Julio Cesar]
      #1291798 - 12/08/06 10:36 AM

Thanks, Gregor!
Things seem to have calmed down on the PST front, though it might be that folks are afraid of TOS infractions. They shouldn't be, it should be easy enough (I suppose, though I don't have a sick scope myself) to just bite your tongue (fingers?) if you find yourself getting hot under the collar! Remember, friends don't let friends post when angry! (Ugh! bad joke, sorry!)
It DOES seem that scopes are getting fixed or replaced, maybe this is the cause of the calm.
Either way, here's the latest iteration of the list:
---------------------------------
94606 sick - Gary Meehan "AXAF" in Boston
94991 sick - David "ad701xx" in Oregon
95104 was blue, now gold - Tom Lawson "Guner" in NJ - repaired twice!
95166 sick - James Suarez "Jim7728" in NY - the old one.
95424 sick - Julio Cesar in Madrid - before repair
96367 sick - "Zoomster" in Fla.- now repaired.
96448 sick, repaired Blue/transparent - Mike Rosolina "Special Ed" in West Va.
96714 sick, repaired, sick again! Darren Hiebert in Alabama
97148 sick - Bill Leslie "bill-in-forres" Scotland
97449 not sick yet, blue - Steve Durham in NY
97468 sick - Bruce Raemsch "Carpe Noctum" in Cal., returned, lost by Meade, replaced.
97491 gold - Daniel Steinke in Illinois - bought used, repaired?
98131 not sick yet, blue/transparent - Gustavo Phols in Mexico
98670 sick & gold (yellow?) "Davo" in Scotland
98773 sick - Gregor(slo) in Slovenia (the old scope)
98994 sick - Steve "molniyabeer" in Italia
99309 sick - Michelle "JARSHEART" in Fla.
99335 sick - Kelly "Trombone"
99493 sick - Adrian Guzman "solmax" in San Jose, CA - repaired with blue glass.
99760 sick - (brand new in box - Discovery Store) - Steven Kim "kimsc321" in NJ
99807 sick - "Ike"
100054 sick - Ben Ritchie in Bosham, UK
100360 sick - Rick in Tokyo
100658 sick - Jim from NJ Night Sky

100706 gold - Ed Kessler in PA
100727 gold - Bill K. "SprintCar Driver" in California
100922 gold - justin2992 in Philly
100942 gold - LBartolomei in Minnesota
101040 gold - "jgraham" in Ohio
101147 gold - Julio Cesar's friend Oriol in Barcelona
101168 gold - Julio Cesar's replacement PST
101230 gold - me
101337 gold - Gerald Bokowy "chemkelly" in Illinois

101369 blue - James Suarez "Jim7728" in NY - the new one.
101627 blue - Gregor(slo) in Slovenia (the new replacement scope)
101680 blue - Bill "Bonco" in Fla.
102xxx clear-blue/sick/bubbles - (brand new in box - Adorama NYC) - Steven Kim "kimsc321" in NJ
102024 clear-blue/sick/bubbles - (brand new in box - Meade replacement) - Steven Kim "kimsc321" in NJ, bubbles are very small.
---------------------------------
The first group are the ones that had the problem. Blue lenses, one transparent...
The second group are the gold ones.
The last group are the new type, with blue lenses (transparent)


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Trevor Durity
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Reged: 12/01/05

Loc: Galway, Ireland
Re: PST serial # list. new [Re: Richard B. Drumm]
      #1292241 - 12/08/06 03:26 PM

Hi all,

Just organized getting my own PST (#100051 - reflective blue) fixed due to this problem. Meade were very friendly and helpful on the phone and expected turnaround is 3 weeks for the repair.

Very happy with their customer support here.

Trev


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kimsc321
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Reged: 01/22/06

Loc: New Milford, NJ
Re: PST serial # list. new [Re: Richard B. Drumm]
      #1292344 - 12/08/06 04:41 PM

Sorry Richard but correction is needed with serial #102024. This scope is 2nd Brand New in Box from Adorama instead of "Meade replacement".

Thank you.

Steven


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tarsier
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Reged: 10/12/06

Re: PST serial # list. [Re: Davo]
      #1292499 - 12/08/06 06:10 PM

101978 is perfect

tarsier


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Re: PST serial # list. [Re: Julio Cesar]
      #1292506 - 12/08/06 06:13 PM

I keep forgetting to add my serial number to your list... I'll try to remember when I get home tonight.

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