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Wallcreeper
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battery heated vest/liner?
      #5468888 - 10/13/12 08:36 PM

So it is getting cold here in NH and last night I was freezing even though I was wearing 6 layers. I looked into battery powered vests and liners and found interesting ones by Gerbing, Ansai and Milwaukee.
I was wondering if anyone has any experience with battery heated vests? Do they actually keep you warm and for how long?
Thanks!


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Phil Sherman
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Reged: 12/07/10

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Re: battery heated vest/liner? new [Re: Wallcreeper]
      #5469090 - 10/13/12 11:24 PM

I believe that a vest has too much surface area for a small battery pack to heat well.

Check a sporting goods store and get some reusable heat packs. You boil them to "recharge" and when you snap the internal clicker in them they start recrystalizing, producing heat.

Make a belt to hold two of them over your kidneys. It'll help keep you warm.

Layering is the way to go for cold weather. Make sure you're wearing a hat because if you don't, over 60% of your total heat loss will be through your head. Clothing intended for hunters who spend the day sitting in a blind may work better than just adding multiple layers. You also need to have the correct types of material in the layers.

Ski shops sell battery powered add-in soles for your shoes. These work very well to keep your feet warm and some boots with thick insulated soles will also help. You could also try army surplus arctic boots but I don't know how available they are.

I have a couple of pair of wool gloves/mittens. They have half fingers and a wool glove covering that really keeps your hands warm when it's cold.

Cotton will keep you warm until it starts absorbing moisture then it becomes a heat conduit. Wool keeps you warm when dry and wet. The first layer of clothing should be polyproplene. It wicks moisture away from the skin. Follow that with wool then additional layers. Make sure that you don't have any "waterproof" layers that don't breathe. These will trap moisture in your clothing and make you cold.

If you're outside using a dob, you could also consider an infrared heater aimed at you and not the scope. It'll limit your viewing unless you attach it to the dob platform so it moves with the scope.

Phil


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Peter9
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Re: battery heated vest/liner? new [Re: Phil Sherman]
      #5469415 - 10/14/12 08:51 AM

I have a heated top coat from Blazewear, here in the U.K.

It is the best garment I have ever purchased for keeping me warm at the eyepiece. It runs on a Lithium Polymer rechargeable battery which has a 7 hour run time and five heat settings. It has just one large heating strip which runs down the back of the coat. I would not be without it and recommend it to without hesitation.

Regards. Peter.


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Re: battery heated vest/liner? new [Re: Wallcreeper]
      #5469427 - 10/14/12 09:03 AM

I have a gerbing vest and it is very toasty, I haven't ran a fully charged battery out in one night yet. I want to get the glove liners!

the thought goes if you keep you core warm everthing else will stay pretty warm also.

I wouldn't do the electric feet thing. a friend of mine, who rides motorcycles in the cold all year round, had the gerbing electric socks and he said they really stunk after using them. I guess he had his heat up too high.


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charles genovese
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Re: battery heated vest/liner? new [Re: Pinbout]
      #5469460 - 10/14/12 09:30 AM

Forget batteries- get Thermocare- chemical reaction packs for heating sore spots -from the drug store. About 44 each. Put one inside your jacket. Lasts for 8 hours!

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tecmageModerator
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Re: battery heated vest/liner? new [Re: charles genovese]
      #5469484 - 10/14/12 09:52 AM

Quote:

Forget batteries- get Thermocare- chemical reaction packs for heating sore spots -from the drug store. About 44 each. Put one inside your jacket. Lasts for 8 hours!




I was going to suggest hand warmers, but Thermacare works even better.


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csa/montana
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Re: battery heated vest/liner? new [Re: tecmage]
      #5469506 - 10/14/12 10:06 AM

The Gerbing heated clothing line is pricey, but lasts! The heated vest is here:

Link

Motorcycle riders have used this product with great results for years, and now those into astronomy are also discovering that the products work well while observing in cold temps.


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csrlice12
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Re: battery heated vest/liner? new [Re: csa/montana]
      #5469536 - 10/14/12 10:33 AM

Yea, but "Hell's Viewers" just doesn't have that same oomph to it.....

Can't you just see us all riding into town, setting our scopes up....Oh the mayham that would ensue......


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Geo.
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Re: battery heated vest/liner? new [Re: csrlice12]
      #5469609 - 10/14/12 11:17 AM

In the UK, where running your bike all year is common heated coveralls are used. I even found a site for a DIY suit. You have'ta get the Teflon coated resistance wire from NJ. Probably used in electric blankets.

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ratskrad
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Re: battery heated vest/liner? new [Re: Geo.]
      #5469671 - 10/14/12 11:55 AM

I work in a ski shop that sell heated vests and jackets. We sell the ones made by Ansai. The vests and jackets have three heating elements with one in the back and one on each side of the chest on the front. The battery will last all night but not at the highest settings. If set high to get warm you turn it down to 25% or 50% to just maintain the temp that you want. They do work.

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Lorence
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Re: battery heated vest/liner? new [Re: Wallcreeper]
      #5469979 - 10/14/12 03:12 PM

Quote:

So it is getting cold here in NH and last night I was freezing even though I was wearing 6 layers. I looked into battery powered vests and liners and found interesting ones by Gerbing, Ansai and Milwaukee.
I was wondering if anyone has any experience with battery heated vests? Do they actually keep you warm and for how long?
Thanks!




I spend more hours outside every day than most spend outside in a week. In the winter temperatures often drop below -40 around here. I'm still outside for hours. I've never put on six layers of clothing in my life.

If you are going to say that sitting in an observatory makes the cold feel worse then climb a telephone pole and stand up there for a few hours in the winter. I've done both and still have all my fingers and toes.

Describe what you were wearing and the weather conditions at the time. What did you have on your feet, hands and head. Five sweaters and a parka won't keep you warm if your butt is hanging out or if your clothing is damp.

The bottom line is that if you are cold you are not dressing properly for the conditions. You could own a sporting goods store of winter clothing and still freeze. All the winter clothing I need could be packed into one suitcase, except for the boots. They'd fill a suitcase by themselves.

I have a Milwaukee heated jacket. I've only worn it a few times. I found the heat was too localized in the upper torso area and that it was uncomfortable even at the lowest setting. I got the thing at a charity auction. It wasn't a total waste, at least the money went to a good cause.


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EddWen
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Re: battery heated vest/liner? new [Re: Wallcreeper]
      #5471509 - 10/15/12 12:53 PM

I have a Gerbing battery-powered vest. I wear it under a 'North Face' jacket. On even the coldest nights, I never have to select a setting above '4' out of 9, so it keeps working as long as I'm in the observatory. Outside air tempertures down to 10F. The vest keeps the pockets of the jacket warm for your hands.

I think a quality ski-jacket or parka is important. North Face and others who make quality 'technical' products are more efficient, and worth the higher cost, than the run-of-the-mill stuff, designed to be cheap and fashionable, found in the majority of stores.

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So it is getting cold here in NH and last night I was freezing even though I was wearing 6 layers. I looked into battery powered vests and liners and found interesting ones by Gerbing, Ansai and Milwaukee.
I was wondering if anyone has any experience with battery heated vests? Do they actually keep you warm and for how long?
Thanks!




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csa/montana
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Re: battery heated vest/liner? new [Re: EddWen]
      #5471533 - 10/15/12 01:02 PM

Quote:

I think a quality ski-jacket or parka is important. North Face and others who make quality 'technical' products are more efficient, and worth the higher cost, than the run-of-the-mill stuff, designed to be cheap and fashionable, found in the majority of stores.





Agreed, the initial cost is higher, but in the long run, will be well worth it. One thing many overlook, is a warm hat! Most inexpensive of cold gear; but very important!


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Re: battery heated vest/liner? new [Re: csa/montana]
      #5472641 - 10/16/12 01:11 AM

Layers are good. Start with some quality cold weather under-armor. I spent 10 days 'surviving' in eastern Washington; a single set of winter under-armor served me well in that environment. The other key is removing sweat from the equation; if you are sweating in the cold, you're wrong. You need to control your body temperature by removing layers/adding layers to keep your body comfortable. The dudes who fell out or had issues had let their feet/body soak with sweat.

Wind breaks are important; the gortex jacket I wore was clutch; it kept me dry and it prevented the wind from getting at me and sucking the heat from my body.

The other key is moving around. Establish a work/rest cycle that keeps the blood moving. Go outside, do some jumping jacks and get your body burning calories to keep you warm. Then, go back to the eyepiece for 15-20 minutes.

Technology is great, but I think you can get by with some quality clothing and some creative work.

Good luck,


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calibos
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Re: battery heated vest/liner? new [Re: Raginar]
      #5473069 - 10/16/12 10:55 AM

Its amazing the way some ideas just pop into your head out of the blue. I've cogitated on and off on body heating pads for observing in the cold for years. I always ruled it out based on the fact that a convenient battery system doesn't deliver enough heat for long enough and conversely a battery that does deliver enough heat for long enough is not convenient. All the while thinking in terms of batteries you would be wearing on your person. I simply read the thread title and the idea popped straight into my head without any cogitation.

Can I ask do any of these Skier or Biker Heating kits have a shared power connection. ie. Combo Glove, Shoe, Chest/back systems? The Bikers perhaps? that plugs into the bike to get plenty of power?

Cause like I said, I just had an idea.

My 16" dob will have a powered ground board which means I am not limited to a particular battery size or amp hours to run all my scope mounted electronic and heating gear.

Whats to stop me connecting an umbilical from the heated suit to an output on my rockerbox. I am pretty sure one could come up with a connection that is held to the rockerbox output via magnets, such that forgetting you are connected to your scope via an umbilical and walking away from the scope, doesn't result in a scope lying on its side in the dirt

ie. The umbilical connects and detaches from you rockerbox easily via a magnetic connection.


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EddWen
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Re: battery heated vest/liner? new [Re: calibos]
      #5473176 - 10/16/12 11:55 AM

Gerbing makes both external 12V, and battery powered stuff.

I didn't want to be tied to a cable, so I went with the battery powered vest. The battery is a lithium type, a bit larger than a pack of cigaretts, has an adjustable current setting, will last all night with a full charge and mid-range setting, under a good jacket.


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Agatha
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Re: battery heated vest/liner? new [Re: Wallcreeper]
      #5473450 - 10/16/12 03:16 PM

I currently have an order in with Gerbing. It is for the "Core heat vest liner" and also a heated seat cushion. Both are on back order. But only for a month or so. That's OK. I think it will be worth it. These are both 7V rechargeables. I can't wait.

Best, Linda B.


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calibos
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Re: battery heated vest/liner? new [Re: Agatha]
      #5473497 - 10/16/12 03:59 PM

Cool. Thanks Edd and Linda. Perfect!

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Re: battery heated vest/liner? new [Re: calibos]
      #5473527 - 10/16/12 04:15 PM

I see a lot of folks are using battery-powered heaters, but what about small, adjustable 120v electric heating pads? A couple of observers I knew years ago had these pinned into the inside back of their winter jackets, and although their use was limited by proximity to an outlet, they seemed to work very well, indeed... they just had to keep aware of the cord coming out of their jackets!

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Mike Harvey
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Re: battery heated vest/liner? new [Re: amicus sidera]
      #5473776 - 10/16/12 06:35 PM

I have had one of the Gerbing battery-powered jackets for several years now.
True, they're not inexpensive...but they work (and you could easily spend over $200 just trying to find a good winter observing outfit and end up looking (and feeling) like the Michelin Man).

Having lived for so long in Southern California and Florida, I'm REALLY SENSITIVE TO COLD weather but, even when there is frost on the scope, I'm perfectly comfortable with the jacket set on a 'medium' heat setting. I don't need to wear anything but a long sleeve shirt under the jacket and nothing additional over it.

Combined with a fur "mad bomber" hat, long-john bottoms, a pair of fleece-lined jeans and some insulated boots I can sit at the scope all night and not feel uncomfortable.

PS - withOUT the battery, the jacket is perfect for "mildly-cold-weather" and looks good too!

Mike Harvey


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Pat at home
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Re: battery heated vest/liner? new [Re: Mike Harvey]
      #5473784 - 10/16/12 06:38 PM

Here is another supplier of heated clothing and accessories including rechargeable battery packs.

http://www.gearscanada.com/index.html


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Retsub
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Re: battery heated vest/liner? new [Re: Pat at home]
      #5474106 - 10/16/12 09:56 PM

Thanks to all for this really good thread. Considered the Milwaukee jacket and could use the battery for other things too. Have looked at quite a few products and it seems all the heaters must run at the same time and no switching off. Q. Lorence, what do you wear different than us ? Couple of years ago we went to Jackson Hole, WY. December, snow and ice, below freezing and wore Patagonia layers and down and kept warm. Came back to south texas and took our scopes out at about 37 deg f and lots of dew, wore the same stuff and more and got cold ! Humidity can be a huge problem and not need to be below zero. Gerbing's has a excellent site and many details. Will probably order the softshell or fleece vest and a extra batt. Need beter head covering. Any suggestions ? Thanks. *BW*

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roscoe
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Re: battery heated vest/liner? new [Re: Mike Harvey]
      #5474602 - 10/17/12 07:57 AM

I just got a catalog from Cabella's, the sporting goods company, and they have a new line of lithium-battery powered heated coat-vest-gloves- etc.
Russ


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Bob Griffiths
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Re: battery heated vest/liner? new [Re: roscoe]
      #5474754 - 10/17/12 09:51 AM

Plus plus plus (+++) on the Gerbring heated clothing...

I use the heated jacket liner...and heated glove liners as well as socks...

The jacket is worn over a t-*BLEEP* (no regular shirt) but under a 2x hooded sweatshirt .. The glove liners have heating elements between each finger as well as on the back of the hand..I purchased a size to small to get a tight fit which allows me to type at the keyboard in my observatory as well as swap out eyepieces..I wear then under a standard pair of finger less mittens (end fold back) The socks I have are the ones made for riding NOT walking) s they have heating elements on the bottom of the foot as well as on top... so I wear them Over an old pair of socks

(hey also make socks that are made for hiking without the heating elements on the bottom..

The electronics are guaranteed for life the clothing itself is not naturally..

gloves and socks connect to the jacket ..the jacket connect to a 12V 35 AH battery via a 12 foot power cord... so I have to keep track of the darn cord but I painted it white so I can see it easily..

Total was around $500.00 BUT worth ever darn penny and then some.. I'm very comfortable all the way down into single digits (F)

The cost is less the the cost of some eyepieces

www.heatedclothing4you.com ..

Mike has been Gerbrings number 1 dealer for the last dozen or so years ..guy sells out of his home but mostly to police departments

One of my absolute best buys ...heck I even use the clothing (sans socks) to run my snow blower in the winter

Bob G.


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Agatha
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Re: battery heated vest/liner? new [Re: Bob Griffiths]
      #5474814 - 10/17/12 10:27 AM

Bob,

I have been wondering where you were . Good, it is perfect for you to join in with your input. It was all because of your frequent mentions of Gerbing that I have finally placed an order, even though on back order. Thanks for all of your info. I can't wait to try my vest and cushion. It may be the only thing that gets me out in the awful MN cold. I will of course pay close attention to my other layers.

Best, Linda B.


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calibos
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Re: battery heated vest/liner? new [Re: Agatha]
      #5474846 - 10/17/12 10:56 AM

As I implement my mods I am dealing with all the things that can cut short a nights observing, wasting a clear night. ie. Temp controlled fan systems to deal with Thermal issues on the scope. Dew heaters for optics and Eyepieces etc. All manner of Goto drives and gadgets to make observing more productive. Mods to make set up and teardown as quick and easy as possible so that valuable observing time is not wasted or becomes so much a chore that one doesn't even bother.

The likes of the Gebring gear is another step on that road to prevent a nights observing being cut short by frozen fingers and toes.

I have one question though. What am I going to do about my fellow observers who have/do none of the above and call it quits early and leave me on my own....out in the middle of nowhere...surrounded by darkness.....and weird noises.

Only as strong as the weakest link and all that?

Edited by calibos (10/17/12 10:57 AM)


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Agatha
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Re: battery heated vest/liner? new [Re: calibos]
      #5475139 - 10/17/12 01:49 PM

Hmmmm. That's a good question. Good luck with that.

Regards, Linda B.


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Pat at home
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Re: battery heated vest/liner? new [Re: Agatha]
      #5475656 - 10/17/12 06:32 PM

When every one else leaves is when I start to really enjoy the hobby. I'm not big on group activities and for me amateur astronomy is a way to unwind, relax, contemplate, speculate ... distractions from people is not conducive to any of that. As for the strange noises coming from the trees well truth be told very few four legged animals are likely to cause you any harm. The two legged animals that are up to no good and looking to cause trouble don't tend to hang out at dark sites.

Edited by Pat at home (10/17/12 06:33 PM)


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Re: battery heated vest/liner? new [Re: calibos]
      #5475925 - 10/17/12 09:38 PM

Quote:

on my own....out in the middle of nowhere...surrounded by darkness.....and weird noises.





That's my every observing session.


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Re: battery heated vest/liner? new [Re: csa/montana]
      #5476144 - 10/18/12 12:28 AM

Thanks Roscoe for the Cabella's tip. I looked today and it sort of bothers me that their name is on it. I mean is it the same as Gerbing's or a knock off. Probably not because it is the same price. A good price for the battery and charger that is the same as G's for the battery alone but then again is it as good as the real thing ? Still looking for a better hat ? ? ? *BW*

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John Jarosz
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Re: battery heated vest/liner? new [Re: Retsub]
      #5476493 - 10/18/12 07:57 AM

Here's another source for battery heated clothing:

Motorcyclegear.com

But I have not used this product (yet)

John


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roscoe
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Re: battery heated vest/liner? new [Re: Retsub]
      #5478372 - 10/19/12 08:10 AM

Quote:

Thanks Roscoe for the Cabella's tip. I looked today and it sort of bothers me that their name is on it. I mean is it the same as Gerbing's or a knock off. Probably not because it is the same price. A good price for the battery and charger that is the same as G's for the battery alone but then again is it as good as the real thing ? Still looking for a better hat ? ? ? *BW*




I wonder if it's like Kasai orthos......you can get them with many different names on 'em, but they all come from the same factory......
Russ


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Doug Culbertson
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Re: battery heated vest/liner? new [Re: roscoe]
      #5478469 - 10/19/12 09:46 AM

Since the description for Cabelas heated gear actually says that it uses Gerbing's microwire technology, it would seem that Gerbing makes the clothing and puts Cabelas name on it. A win for both companies I would think.

BTW, happy birthday Russ!


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Re: battery heated vest/liner? new [Re: Doug Culbertson]
      #5478537 - 10/19/12 10:25 AM

Harley Davidson sells Gerbing under their name as well.

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Retsub
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Re: battery heated vest/liner? new [Re: Paul G]
      #5478883 - 10/19/12 01:59 PM

I ordered the S-2 jacket from Gerbings. Its backordered but should get here by mid-nov. She said that Cabelas is their stuff with a different tag and small differences and will warranty them too. I also ordered a spare batt from Cabelas since it comes with a charger too as a spare. With two batts and two chargers not much else can go wrong. Just wish that the jacket had a way to turn off some of the heaters to conserve batt power. Don't expect very cold weather here in so. texas for over a month so the delivery timing should work out ok. Many thanks to all for the suggestions and info. *BW*

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Re: battery heated vest/liner? new [Re: Retsub]
      #5478951 - 10/19/12 02:44 PM

I've been using socks, pants, jacket and gloves, all connected into one unit after putting on. They use just under 15 amps, 12 volts.
Only in my roll off, and I do have a power converter and am connected to a wire. Unit has dual controls for upper and lower adjustment independently.
Been using this for over 5 years now, still going strong.
http://cozywinters.com/?source=go&gclid=CIOikKvdjbMCFQSCQgodh0YAdA

Edited by wirebender (10/19/12 02:45 PM)


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Re: battery heated vest/liner? new [Re: wirebender]
      #5611065 - 01/07/13 10:37 PM

Update of the Gerbings S2 jacket I ordered mid October. I also ordered a spare battery and charger from Cabelas and it came in about a week. Thought I had it all figured out. With two batts and a AC and DC charger I should be good to go. The jacket finaly came just before X Mas and was able to try it out twice. DIDN'T PERFORM AS EXPECTED ! Like I have written before here in south Texas doesn't have the frozen cold like many of you have but when its 30-40f and heavy dew its very chilling in another way.
Here is how it didn't work out. Full batt charge with a light shirt on underneath,heavy knit cap, 38f, very light wind and light dew and the heat on high I went out and sat in a chair. Before long my jeans were cold and I could feel a little heat at the chest and neck heaters area. Got up and walked around but that didn't help. Went into the house looking for the other batt to try and soon I felt the warmth of the jacket heat. Enough for one nite.
Next nite after lots of thinking went back out and had a waterproof shell jacket over the Gerbing to help hold the heat in. About the same temp and conditions. After a while where is the heat ? and changed to the other batt. No difference. Walked around and sat back down. Really wasn't very pleased by now. Far as I know with all the reading of reviews I have given it a fair chance. I mailed it back to Gerbings today for a full refund. Now I have a new but used once batt and a DC charger to dispose of at another loss of money. Can't win. Good luck with yours. *BW*


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Re: battery heated vest/liner? new [Re: Retsub]
      #5612659 - 01/08/13 08:33 PM

Upper: my standard indoor t-shirt, wool zip up sweater, down underjacket, fleece over jacket, nylon shell. I do not even bother zipping up the outer two layers until the temperature falls below -10C.

Lower, thermal underwear, down pants (Western Mountaineering Fight pants). Regular tube socks, wool over socks. Shearling boot insoles.

Head: sheepskin mountie type hat.

I am well covered and core warm down to below -20C. The only problem are my hands as I use leather-thinsulate gloves for dexterity. My hands become cold within 30-60 minutes.

I have a Zippo handwarmer that really throws heat, though it is a bit of a pain to use. It needs lighter fluid and it occasionally goes out. I recently got a Sanyo Eneloop Kairo handwarmer that is powered by NiMH AA cells and it is really nice. I keep it in one glove, and put it on with a click of the button when I need it. It warms my hand up nice, and I switch hands every now and then. The batteries last about two hours, so I usually have an extra set in my pocket, though I rarely need them for a typical evening session.

In my opinion, this sort of battery operated warmer is only a comfort device, not a replacement for good clothes. Though some readers with cold hands might be interested.

Keith


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Re: battery heated vest/liner? new [Re: skullpin]
      #5613029 - 01/09/13 12:59 AM

No batteries in this, but I spend a lot of time working outside in winter, and I have found that hoods are much warmer than hats - that stripe of cold air along the back of the neck isn't there, and having the ears well covered makes a big difference, too.
Insulated boots are important, too. Mine have removable thick felt liners in them.
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Re: battery heated vest/liner? new [Re: Retsub]
      #5613362 - 01/09/13 09:18 AM

Quote:

DIDN'T PERFORM AS EXPECTED !




those gerbing jackets are different than what I have, I have the motorcycle vest which is wire with nice thick wire and will keep me warm going 60mph in 30° weather.

I guess I'll stay away from their micro-what-ever technology.


thanks for the head up.


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Re: battery heated vest/liner? new [Re: Retsub]
      #5613550 - 01/09/13 11:39 AM

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DIDN'T PERFORM AS EXPECTED !

Here is how it didn't work out. Full batt charge with a light shirt on underneath,heavy knit cap, 38f, very light wind and light dew and the heat on high I went out and sat in a chair.




If what you say here is correct, I would not expect it to work either.

If you re-read the posts above, note that several refer to using a well insulated jacket over the vest. Did you use one and forgot to mention?

My Gerbings vest is 5 years old and works well, under my North Face ski jacket.


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Re: battery heated vest/liner? new [Re: EddWen]
      #5616300 - 01/10/13 09:26 PM

Thanks Eddwen, the first nite out after it seemed to not be working I got up and walked around then sat back down as if I was observing but still felt hardly anything. I was visiting family and didn't have all my gear near by but when I went into the house for a bathroom stop and was looking for the other batt I did feel heat only then. Next nite after lots of thinking I put on a waterproof shell jacket on top and went out again and repeated just like the first nite and used both batts to be sure but the results were the same as the first nite. Wish I had 12VDC and some amps like Pinbout wrote about but only with a small batt ! Thanks. *BW*

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Re: battery heated vest/liner? new [Re: Retsub]
      #5618815 - 01/12/13 11:04 AM

My wife, son and I all have a Milwaukee and we think they are awesome. Even @ -30C with a suitable jacket over we stay nice and comfortable. Great for walking the dog, outdoor events and watching the sky. $130 at Home Depot and comes with 2 batteries (replacements are readily available) and a quick charger (20 minutes). A cold night and I will use both batteries. Lots of handy pocket space too. Heat seems to be upper back/shoulder and upper chest. With the outer jacket, heat placement seems very comfortable. Our jackets are quite loose fitting and feel very relaxed. They've worked well for us for the last couple of years

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