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City Kid
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Any tents that can stand up to high wind?
      #5662515 - 02/04/13 09:26 PM

I'm looking for a tent that can stand up to high winds. I've only found one that even suggests it was built for windy conditions. It's an REI Base Camp 4. Here is a link to it. Before I pull the trigger on this one I would like to have a handful to choose from. Anyone have any suggestions? I'm looking for a four person tent.

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piaras
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Re: Any tents that can stand up to high wind? new [Re: City Kid]
      #5662523 - 02/04/13 09:30 PM

How does the Kendrick Observer tent rate?

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Re: Any tents that can stand up to high wind? new [Re: piaras]
      #5662570 - 02/04/13 10:02 PM

How much wind are you expecting and how large a tent are you looking for?

Stan

Edited by RTLR 12 (02/04/13 10:03 PM)


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John Kuraoka
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Re: Any tents that can stand up to high wind? new [Re: RTLR 12]
      #5662607 - 02/04/13 10:20 PM

In my experience, almost any good four-season tent can hold up to what I would consider high winds, if properly positioned, staked, and guyed out. I've never had to rig an internal guy, though, so perhaps I haven't been in high winds.

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City Kid
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Re: Any tents that can stand up to high wind? new [Re: RTLR 12]
      #5662611 - 02/04/13 10:21 PM

I'm looking for a four person tent. I don't have an exact figure for the wind MPH. I need it to stand up to the winds in Nebraska at the Nebraska Star Party. Both my tent and my canopy got trashed in the winds last year. I'm not exactly sure just how strong they were but it was very windy. My tent wasn't the only one that got trashed last year. Quite a few of them did. The first year I went was windy too but not as bad as last year. I want a tent that will last me through the star party even if the winds are like last year.

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Re: Any tents that can stand up to high wind? new [Re: John Kuraoka]
      #5662612 - 02/04/13 10:22 PM

Check out North Face tents.

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City Kid
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Re: Any tents that can stand up to high wind? new [Re: City Kid]
      #5662635 - 02/04/13 10:33 PM

I just checked out David Knisely's summary of the NSP and he said he measured the wind at a constant 16 MPH and gusts up to 25 MPH. So I guess I need a tent that can take that.

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Bill Weir
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Re: Any tents that can stand up to high wind? new [Re: piaras]
      #5662641 - 02/04/13 10:37 PM Attachment (18 downloads)

Quote:

How does the Kendrick Observer tent rate?




In a big wind it doesn't. A friend has one and at a star party where the wind came up a snapped pole and torn off tabs where tiedown strings attach happened.

What kind of winds are you anticipating? 4 man is pretty big for considering tolerating wind.

You want something low profile with no places for the wind to catch hold of. Add to that lots of tiedowns and use them all. The tent doesn't have to be expensive it just has to be secured. This 2 man tent from Costco only cost 50 bucks but at this site at 6000' tied down like this has withstood 60 MPH winds.

Bill


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RTLR 12
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Re: Any tents that can stand up to high wind? new [Re: tomcody]
      #5662644 - 02/04/13 10:37 PM

Use 2 metal tent poles, the height of the tent and placed on opposite sides of the tent in the direction of the wind. Stake the poles to the ground using 2 ropes in a 'v' configuration and tie the top of the tent to the top of the poles. This has worked for me in winds up to 50mph gust. The tent type, design or cost has little to do with success.

Stan


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JMW
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Re: Any tents that can stand up to high wind? new [Re: RTLR 12]
      #5662799 - 02/05/13 01:12 AM

My astronomy 'tent' is a 5x8 cargo trailer that I modified for astronomy parties. I bought mine new for $2400. They can be bought used for less. I added insulation, roof vent, window and side door so ramp door could be locked on outside. Holds up very well to strong winds. Gives you room to haul gear and mine has a full size mattress for my wife and I.

Most of the winter mountain tents hold up well to very strong winds. Use the large 10 inch nail stacks when at the star party.


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Re: Any tents that can stand up to high wind? new [Re: JMW]
      #5662844 - 02/05/13 02:09 AM Attachment (14 downloads)

Many of the desert locations that I camp at have very loamy soil and regular tent stakes just won't hold in the wind. I use some 30" steel spikes that I get from Home Depot's garden center to hold the guide ropes for the poles on my 18' x 24' canopy. I need to remove them with a small slide hammer.

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David Knisely
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Re: Any tents that can stand up to high wind? new [Re: City Kid]
      #5662878 - 02/05/13 03:29 AM

Quote:

I just checked out David Knisely's summary of the NSP and he said he measured the wind at a constant 16 MPH and gusts up to 25 MPH. So I guess I need a tent that can take that.




Most well-built heavy-duty "Expedition" camping tents should be able to take a 15 to 25 mph wind speed if properly anchored with the deep sand anchors, but not the cheaper "bubble" tents, which tend to go flying or get flattened. However, the thunderstorms at NSP (like the one during one of the evening meals last year) can produce wind speeds in excess of 50 mph. Very few tents can stand up to that level of wind. Also, tents tend to degrade with repeated exposure to sunlight, which can eventually make them vulnerable to ripping under the loads of an intense windstorm. Most of the tent survival rates depend on where you pitch them. If you are going to pitch a tent at NSP, I would suggest watching the weather carefully or pitching it in one of the lower elevation areas in the park. Up on the dunes where a lot of the scopes are, if the wind really gets going, so do the tents! I have yet to see a tent that I consider to be completely "NSP-proof", which is why I stay in a cabin at the resort . Good luck and clear skies to you.


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Re: Any tents that can stand up to high wind? new [Re: David Knisely]
      #5663063 - 02/05/13 08:36 AM

Typical, all worried about a little wind. What about your scope, the one you just left out in the wind? It was sad, it truely tried, I watched it straining to stay on track; but then, a sudden strong blast, and, and, it's just too horrible to describe, so sad, so sad to see a scope go like that.....

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Spaced
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Re: Any tents that can stand up to high wind? new [Re: csrlice12]
      #5663477 - 02/05/13 12:06 PM

Quote:

Check out North Face tents.




North Face tents are built with highest quality materials and workmanship. I've owned several (currently just one).

For a 4 person tent capable of surviving high winds I suggest you limit your search to dome configurations, and limit it further to those that have rainflies extending to just above the ground, with additional guy points halfway up the sides.

A couple of years ago I bought a Cabela's Alaskan Guide tent for my daughter, for car camping. See here; I think it's the 4 person aluminum pole unit. Its design includes two additional wrap-around poles in addition to the basic 6 pole dome design, so the sides are extremely well-braced against lateral pressure. The rainfly, which goes nearly to the ground, is anchored to the tent at more points than typical. The result is a tent built like a rock.

I've used it in two somewhat challenging circumstances. One was two nights of mixed snow/rain and some wind, at about 5500'. I found the tent to be very cozy; the dead air space between tent and fly acts as a thermos bottle. The second was high winds at our Goldendale star party last year. We had quite a windstorm that flattened several tents and damaged a couple of EZ-Up canopies. (See pictures starting at page 6 of this thread). The Cabela's tent was, again, simply a rock. Note that there's nothing special about Cabela's stuff, generally. They sell low-end stuff too. *This* line is, however, truly outstanding quality.

Edit: Incidentally, a "4 person" tent will in fact squeeze in 4 adults for sleeping but it will be very crowded. If you want room for 4 adults plus some personal things you probably need a "6 person" tent.

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Quote:

I need it to stand up to the winds in Nebraska at the Nebraska Star Party. Both my tent and my canopy got trashed in the winds last year.




If you want to prepare for the worst case scenario, in a severe thunderstorm 60 mph gusts are easily possible.

Edited by Spaced (02/05/13 02:52 PM)


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Traveler
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Re: Any tents that can stand up to high wind? new [Re: City Kid]
      #5663539 - 02/05/13 12:48 PM

In general the best tents against windy conditions are so called geodesic tents. Theye are typically employ three or four poles with multiple intersections.

Not a 4 person tent but a 3 persons tent which we use and survived many bad weather conditions in the high himalayan mountains (5000+ m), is The North Face VE25.

Hope this will help you a little.


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Charlie B
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Re: Any tents that can stand up to high wind? new [Re: piaras]
      #5663563 - 02/05/13 01:05 PM

Quote:

How does the Kendrick Observer tent rate?




About as good as any I've seen. Year before last, I was on Spruce Knob, WV in hurricane force winds (~60 mph) and torrential rain. The wind bent two poles slightly, but not a drop came in.

This is the best tent I've ever had. I replaced the two poles, but they are still available as spares after being straightened.

Charlie B


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Charlie B
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Re: Any tents that can stand up to high wind? new [Re: Charlie B]
      #5663569 - 02/05/13 01:08 PM

Note that this is the current tent being solde by Kendrick. The older astro tent was not this strong.

Charlie B


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Re: Any tents that can stand up to high wind? new [Re: Charlie B]
      #5663794 - 02/05/13 03:38 PM

Hey Charlie I was at that party with the older model of Kendrick and had no problems either. I find the fly staked close the ground doesn't give the wind much to grab hold of.

Cheers

Ian


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csrlice12
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Re: Any tents that can stand up to high wind? new [Re: woodchuck]
      #5663799 - 02/05/13 03:40 PM

....and the answer my friend, is blowing in the wind.......

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TL2101
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Re: Any tents that can stand up to high wind? new [Re: csrlice12]
      #5663862 - 02/05/13 04:14 PM Attachment (8 downloads)

Eureka tents do fine in strong winds. I pull my vehicle next to help block the wind and cover the tent with shade cloth to block the sun. I also can move my scope inside if it starts to rain like it did at the GSSP in 2011. This is the Eureka 1210 model.

Edited by TL2101 (02/05/13 04:17 PM)


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Re: Any tents that can stand up to high wind? new [Re: Charlie B]
      #5663881 - 02/05/13 04:22 PM

The Cabella's West Wind tent does a great job of standing off the wind, primarily because of the shape. However that shape also means the 4 person tent is really not for 4 people. I would say their 6 person tent will actually fit 4 people. The 6 person model is $289 but goes on sale for $229 from time to time.

Setup is easy and fast by one person, even the 8 person version of this tent can be set up pretty fast by one person.

The doors can be unzipped to become large screen doors and there are vents at the top. No windows on the sides at all. This is pretty nice, since it gives you plenty of ventilation but also plenty of privacy without having to put on the rain fly.

There is no privacy in the base camp tent unless you put on the rain fly and I don't like that extra step especially when it not going to actually rain.

The Cabela's Alaskan Guide tent is very similar to the West Wind but it is even sturdier. Does weigh a lot though.

Cabela's makes additional tents that can withstand just about any thing mother nature has to offer, but the cost can be high on some of those.


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Re: Any tents that can stand up to high wind? new [Re: TL2101]
      #5663885 - 02/05/13 04:24 PM

I've been waiting for someone to say the tent is for their scopes and not for them........

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starrancher
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Re: Any tents that can stand up to high wind? new [Re: csrlice12]
      #5663909 - 02/05/13 04:36 PM

Quote:

I've been waiting for someone to say the tent is for their scopes and not for them........




The tent is for my scopes and not for me .


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mountain monk
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Re: Any tents that can stand up to high wind? new [Re: starrancher]
      #5664015 - 02/05/13 05:30 PM

I spent a good chunk of my life in tents in high winds, here, in the Himalayas, and in South America. We are corporate partners with both Black Diamond and Marmot, test gear for both of them, and have used numerous North Face tents over the years. As suggested above, get a good "dome" tent with multiple stake-out points and long steel stakes that can be driven with a big hammer or hand sledge. Such tents can (and have) taken 100mph winds, assuming solid construction and heavy fabric, and BIG poles. Have a fly that stakes out low to the ground so the wind can't get under it. Put the back to expected direction of the wind and pay particular attention to solidly staking that area. In my book, 25 mph winds are a piece of cake. Get to good dome tent and you will be fine.

Dark skies.

Jack

Edited by mountain monk (02/05/13 06:27 PM)


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Re: Any tents that can stand up to high wind? new [Re: mountain monk]
      #5664039 - 02/05/13 05:39 PM

Extra rope and decent pegs go a long way too.

jake


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Re: Any tents that can stand up to high wind? new [Re: northernontario]
      #5664163 - 02/05/13 06:54 PM

I have a couple of tents, one being the tent cot but I am not sure the tent cot would endure high winds but I haven't had to find out. I often though load the rocker and upper tube on my scope into the back of my Pathfinder, load up the paper part and eyepieces in the front passenger and then lay out and stretch out on a 3 inch memory foam mattress in the back of the Pathfinder. At 6'0 I sometimes leave the tail gate up and stretch out really nice. If there is bad weather, I can lower the gate, bend my legs and sleep with my cpap machine. Sometimes I sleep in a tent. Just depends.

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piaras
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Re: Any tents that can stand up to high wind? new [Re: TL2101]
      #5664243 - 02/05/13 07:52 PM

Quote:

I pull my vehicle next to help block the wind




If you can this is a major help against wind, and place the camp site below the top of hill/ridge. No sense being on the top except if your site is in the flatlands of the praires. No cover except your car/truck in that case!


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Charlie B
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Re: Any tents that can stand up to high wind? new [Re: woodchuck]
      #5664244 - 02/05/13 07:54 PM

I think you were next to me.

Charlie B


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Re: Any tents that can stand up to high wind? new [Re: Charlie B]
      #5664383 - 02/05/13 09:51 PM

Google for Ice-fishing tent...I know I will buy one and make modifications to unroll a strip of the top ,and that will be my observatory...very sturdy stuff !
Good luck !
Maxx


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Re: Any tents that can stand up to high wind? new [Re: bouffetout]
      #5664869 - 02/06/13 09:38 AM

We get all of our better quality outdoor gear from Mountain Equipment Co-op. They are a Canadian member owned co-operative ($5 to join) with unsurpassed customer service. These guys stand behind their stuff. I had a three layer mountaineering jacket on which the zipper let go after I'd had it 6 years. They fixed it for free, can't beat that kind of customer care.

Here is link to their page for expedition tents. BTE, they'll ship anywhere.

http://www.mec.ca/AST/ShopMEC/Tents/Expedition.jsp


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Re: Any tents that can stand up to high wind? new [Re: Pat at home]
      #5664967 - 02/06/13 10:48 AM

Quote:

We get all of our better quality outdoor gear from Mountain Equipment Co-op. They are a Canadian member owned co-operative ($5 to join) with unsurpassed customer service. These guys stand behind their stuff. I had a three layer mountaineering jacket on which the zipper let go after I'd had it 6 years. They fixed it for free, can't beat that kind of customer care.

Here is link to their page for expedition tents. BTE, they'll ship anywhere.

http://www.mec.ca/AST/ShopMEC/Tents/Expedition.jsp



That is awesome ,they have two stores about 30 minutes from where I live...I didn't know they existed ,thank you so very much !!!
Maxx


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Re: Any tents that can stand up to high wind? new [Re: Spaced]
      #5666144 - 02/06/13 10:16 PM

Quote:




A couple of years ago I bought a Cabela's Alaskan Guide tent for my daughter, for car camping. See here; I think it's the 4 person aluminum pole unit. Its design includes two additional wrap-around poles in addition to the basic 6 pole dome design, so the sides are extremely well-braced against lateral pressure. The rainfly, which goes nearly to the ground, is anchored to the tent at more points than typical. The result is a tent built like a rock.

I've used it in two somewhat challenging circumstances. One was two nights of mixed snow/rain and some wind, at about 5500'. I found the tent to be very cozy; the dead air space between tent and fly acts as a thermos bottle. The second was high winds at our Goldendale star party last year. We had quite a windstorm that flattened several tents and damaged a couple of EZ-Up canopies. (See pictures starting at page 6 of this thread). The Cabela's tent was, again, simply a rock. Note that there's nothing special about Cabela's stuff, generally. They sell low-end stuff too. *This* line is, however, truly outstanding quality.





I have one of these and can vouch for it as well. I've used it in some storms and it held up admirably. Funny enough, I bought it after hearing it was one of the only tents left standing a few years ago at the Okie Tex star party when 70 mph winds hit leveling pretty much everything.


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Re: Any tents that can stand up to high wind? new [Re: davidpitre]
      #5667428 - 02/07/13 04:27 PM

You have good taste in stout tents, David!

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Re: Any tents that can stand up to high wind? new [Re: Spaced]
      #5667596 - 02/07/13 06:13 PM

A few years ago at Starfest near Toronto a tornado went very near the campsite. I arrived shortly after the high winds went through. There was quite a bit of debris. A number of Kendrick tents remained standing, a number of domed tents also were ok. Most of the tents damaged were when poles snapped or just simply not tied down enough. With that experience I would definatly say any domed tent would be a good choice. Just make sure it's tied down well and not too close to a tree.

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piaras
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Re: Any tents that can stand up to high wind? new [Re: bogg]
      #5667887 - 02/07/13 09:23 PM

I too was at Starfest that year, we were near the security gate area. We had all the vehicles around us so there was no damage, but closer to the lower areas not far from the big tent, there was a few tents flying around.
We could see the funnel, I think one of the Niagara RASC members got a picture of it.
As stated the tents that were setup correctly were fine.


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