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Re: Pacific NW Mt St Helens EternaThread Pt 6 [Re: Sean Puett]
      #5662692 - 02/04/13 11:24 PM

Everett area, I'm guessing. I can see where viewing would be curtailed having to drive that distance to get under some good skies.

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bluedandelion
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Re: Pacific NW Mt St Helens EternaThread Pt 6 [Re: csa/montana]
      #5662731 - 02/05/13 12:05 AM

OK so I recently scouted out a possible spot not far from Enumclaw. There's a Sno-Park east of Greenwater on Hwy 410. Should be free of snow and people in the summer. Eastern and Southern vistas should be reasonable I am guessing. Anyone try out this spot?

I went a few days after Christmas and the place was thick with snow mobiles and the road was covered in ice. At least I found out it existed. A couple of my students suggested Greenwater as a possible location.

http://www.gonorthwest.com/Washington/cascades/Greenwater/Greenwater.htm

Ajay


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rainycityastro
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Re: Pacific NW Mt St Helens EternaThread Pt 6 [Re: bluedandelion]
      #5662768 - 02/05/13 12:40 AM

I've never been successful imaging west of cascades in the winter. (with the notable exception of 2 weekends ago when we had the wonderful inversion fog that obliterated the city lights and created excellent seeing conditions at elevation!)

This weekend might be clear near Yakima. Anyone interested in joining? I will probably image all night if weather cooperates.


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Re: Pacific NW Mt St Helens EternaThread Pt 6 [Re: rainycityastro]
      #5662816 - 02/05/13 01:27 AM

I'll have to reserve on a weather report later in the week. I'm certainly interested, and I've been known to drive to Vantage for "partly cloudy" sky . skeptical of the long range forcasts though...

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Re: Pacific NW Mt St Helens EternaThread Pt 6 [Re: csa/montana]
      #5662825 - 02/05/13 01:38 AM

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Should I rub it in? Had completely clear skies until around 1am with clouds started coming in (from the PNW!) Had a fun night observing.




I'm surprised how little snow you have this year, Carol.


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Re: Pacific NW Mt St Helens EternaThread Pt 6 [Re: bluedandelion]
      #5662833 - 02/05/13 01:55 AM

Quote:

OK so I recently scouted out a possible spot not far from Enumclaw. There's a Sno-Park east of Greenwater on Hwy 410. Should be free of snow and people in the summer. Eastern and Southern vistas should be reasonable I am guessing. Anyone try out this spot?

I went a few days after Christmas and the place was thick with snow mobiles and the road was covered in ice. At least I found out it existed. A couple of my students suggested Greenwater as a possible location.

http://www.gonorthwest.com/Washington/cascades/Greenwater/Greenwater.htm

Ajay




never spent much time down in that area. It may be worth a peek in warmer temps(when we seem to have better sky on this side )


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Re: Pacific NW Mt St Helens EternaThread Pt 6 [Re: zerro1]
      #5663415 - 02/05/13 11:30 AM

Quote:

There's a Sno-Park east of Greenwater on Hwy 410.




I think I know the place you're thinking of, Ajay. It would certainly have the advantage of less LP and some altitude (I'd guesstimate 1500'). The limitation would be poor horizons. The ridges above the White River are 6000' (and much higher toward The Mtn.), putting a guy in quite a hole. Not that there's nothing to look at overhead.


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Re: Pacific NW Mt St Helens EternaThread Pt 6 [Re: square_peg]
      #5663467 - 02/05/13 12:02 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Should I rub it in? Had completely clear skies until around 1am with clouds started coming in (from the PNW!) Had a fun night observing.




I'm surprised how little snow you have this year, Carol.




It's been a very mild winter here; only two blizzards. The last one dropped about 8"; but then the temps were in the high 40's, which got rid of the snow. I'm really enjoying this winter!


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Stacy
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Re: Pacific NW Mt St Helens EternaThread Pt 6 [Re: bluedandelion]
      #5663584 - 02/05/13 01:22 PM

Quote:

OK so I recently scouted out a possible spot not far from Enumclaw. There's a Sno-Park east of Greenwater on Hwy 410. Should be free of snow and people in the summer. Eastern and Southern vistas should be reasonable I am guessing. Anyone try out this spot?

I went a few days after Christmas and the place was thick with snow mobiles and the road was covered in ice. At least I found out it existed. A couple of my students suggested Greenwater as a possible location.

http://www.gonorthwest.com/Washington/cascades/Greenwater/Greenwater.htm

Ajay




Still over two hours from my place Ajay

I could be in Eastern WA with less LP and generally better everything with the same travel time.

Stevens Pass is challenged as far as horizon goes, but is just over an hour from me and they have several parking lots that might make a nice spring/summer observing spot for us guys up north here (Robert, Sean, Myself and others)

Blue Mountain is even closer, but has great horizons. However it suffers from the Monroe light bubble, a terrible road and the random keg party. Still not too bad. If you have a 4WD.

47.958501, -121.702429

http://www.seattleastro.org/obsbluemtn.shtml


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MadHungarian
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Re: Pacific NW Mt St Helens EternaThread Pt 6 [Re: rainycityastro]
      #5663623 - 02/05/13 01:58 PM

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...This weekend might be clear near Yakima. Anyone interested in joining? I will probably image all night if weather cooperates.




Where do you go in Yakima?

I'm certainly interested in going somewhere at least this weekend. I don't want to miss the entire Winter season again. I do need decent southern exposure though, since i've got to view M93 in North Puppis.


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Re: Pacific NW Mt St Helens EternaThread Pt 6 [Re: MadHungarian]
      #5663857 - 02/05/13 04:09 PM

If weather cooperates, it will to a campground in Yakima Canyon. It is roughly mid way between Ellensburg and Yakima.

All locations around there have excellent horizon visibility. There are a few passing cars on the road which can a mild nuisance though.

Orion is still up and spring galaxies are coming up. Nights are still nice and long!

Edited by rainycityastro (02/05/13 04:11 PM)


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Re: Pacific NW Mt St Helens EternaThread Pt 6 [Re: csa/montana]
      #5663935 - 02/05/13 04:54 PM

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Everett area, I'm guessing. I can see where viewing would be curtailed having to drive that distance to get under some good skies.



missed it by about 7 miles. Marysville is where I live. It has started to seem more like north north Everett the last few years though.


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Re: Pacific NW Mt St Helens EternaThread Pt 6 [Re: Sean Puett]
      #5663991 - 02/05/13 05:20 PM

I'm pretty familiar with the Seattle area, as we used to drive out to visit relatives living in the area.

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Re: Pacific NW Mt St Helens EternaThread Pt 6 [Re: Sean Puett]
      #5664080 - 02/05/13 06:02 PM

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Western Washington should be where they send criminal astronomers for punishment.


Ha... good one Sean!

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Re: Pacific NW Mt St Helens EternaThread Pt 6 [Re: rainycityastro]
      #5664533 - 02/06/13 12:33 AM

Quote:

If weather cooperates, it will to a campground in Yakima Canyon. It is roughly mid way between Ellensburg and Yakima.

All locations around there have excellent horizon visibility.





Yakima Canyon is beautiful but I think the western horizon is obstructed. I guess it depends on which way the river is bending at your particular location.


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MadHungarian
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Re: Pacific NW Mt St Helens EternaThread Pt 6 [Re: square_peg]
      #5664543 - 02/06/13 12:56 AM

Well my primary goal is to view one object that's due south and only about 17 degrees above horizon at max. That's M93, my one remaining Messier object, that i wasn't able to see last winter, and i don't want to wait yet another whole year to see it. And i've only got a few weeks left to see it this winter. Arrggh!

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Re: Pacific NW Mt St Helens EternaThread Pt 6 [Re: MadHungarian]
      #5665188 - 02/06/13 12:49 PM

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If weather cooperates, it will to a campground in Yakima Canyon. It is roughly mid way between Ellensburg and Yakima.




Ram, I'd be interested in knowing exactly which of several campgrounds on Canyon Road you use. I hadn't really thought of that area as a reasonably convenient, dark winter/early spring viewing location but it makes good sense. The road is generally 20' or more higher than the campgrounds, so I'd think headlights of cars wouldn't be much of a problem. If you care to post a couple of pictures I'd look at them with much interest!


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Re: Pacific NW Mt St Helens EternaThread Pt 6 [Re: Spaced]
      #5665240 - 02/06/13 01:15 PM

Hi Mike,
There are a couple of campgrounds along the Yakima river that I dont recall the names of. I think one of them is Lumuma campground or something like that.

The area is pretty dark though oncoming headlights can be a bit annoying. There is also a goods train that goes through there at night. It is really loud and bright! But the train is just a brief interlude. I'll certainly take a few pictures and send out next time I'm there.

Most of my winter photographs from last year were taken there.

Here is one of my favorites:



http://www.flickr.com/photos/ramv/7001493181/in/set-72157627136712042

Edited by rainycityastro (02/06/13 01:18 PM)


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MadHungarian
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Re: Pacific NW Mt St Helens EternaThread Pt 6 [Re: rainycityastro]
      #5665367 - 02/06/13 02:15 PM

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...There are a couple of campgrounds along the Yakima river that I dont recall the names of. I think one of them is Lumuma campground or something like that.

The area is pretty dark though oncoming headlights can be a bit annoying. There is also a goods train that goes through there at night. It is really loud and bright! But the train is just a brief interlude. I'll certainly take a few pictures and send out next time I'm there.





According to Google Maps, we have Umtanum Creek Recreational Area at 46.855518,-120.483316. Was that the one?

Looks like a fair bit of hill action around it, but probably still some good sky exposure. According to Google Maps terrain view, the nearby hills go up about 600' or so, and are about 2000' away on average. So that probably gets us down to 15 degrees or so above horizon?


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Re: Pacific NW Mt St Helens EternaThread Pt 6 [Re: MadHungarian]
      #5665445 - 02/06/13 02:53 PM

I'm SORRY! I just committed to buy a 14" ultralight dob so the bad weather can be blamed on me!

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