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Daniel8802
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Cherry Springs, PA
      #6111427 - 10/01/13 03:20 PM

Hello Everyone!!

I'm looking at going to Cherry Springs for my first time this coming November during the Tuarid meteor shower. Since it will be in November, I do not believe that I can rent a cabin because most of the campgrounds are closed during this time.

If anyone has every been to cherry springs, where did you stay? It seems like lodging is sparse in that area (as I would imagine). The one descent place I've found so far is the Mill Stream Inn. If anyone has any suggestions that would be great!

Cherry Springs is 5 hours away from me so a good check list as well what to bring for a 4 day astronomy outing would be great; usually I am only at 4-8 hour star parties! Thanks in advanced .


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stacpa17
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Re: Cherry Springs, PA new [Re: Daniel8802]
      #6112015 - 10/01/13 09:32 PM

I have never been there in November though I am thinking of of it but I would recommend preparing for very cold weather. I go to the Black Forest Star party in September and it can be in the 30's overnight. I tent when I am there are so am not familiar with motels in the area and wouldn't want to leave my scope there without my presence. I would think 'self sufficient' in my preparing to go there though Galeton is around 12 miles away. Not much going on there in the daytime so bring entertainment. If you are going during a new moon there will probably be other people there in campers/tents. there is no food/showers in the area so you really have to pack well. There are showers in a campground 4 miles away but not sure if they are open in November. Did I say warm clothing, food, think survival!!

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stacpa17
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Re: Cherry Springs, PA new [Re: stacpa17]
      #6112031 - 10/01/13 09:39 PM

Wellsboro, PA seems like a nice town when I drive through it, though further east than Galeton there is more there. I don't think finding a hotel will be a problem.

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George N
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Re: Cherry Springs, PA new [Re: stacpa17]
      #6112387 - 10/02/13 01:54 AM

I've not stayed at any of the local places, only on the field. I've been there several times in mid October, and it was below freezing after midnight. In November one could even expect snow. At some point in the late fall the park closes down the water, but does stay open all winter. They ask you not to park or set up on the snowplowed roads on the observing field.

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paul
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Re: Cherry Springs, PA new [Re: George N]
      #6112451 - 10/02/13 03:59 AM

You could rent an RV and park it right there..

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Daniel8802
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Re: Cherry Springs, PA new [Re: paul]
      #6112627 - 10/02/13 08:45 AM

Oh wow, it seems pretty harsh up there. I thought it would be OK since it is early November. I am also renting one of the observatories now so hopefully that will help too.

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Daniel8802
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Re: Cherry Springs, PA new [Re: Daniel8802]
      #6112764 - 10/02/13 10:04 AM

Does anyone have a checklist of what they bring with them to star parties? I'm trying to cover all of my basis early! Just ordered long johns haha ... I also booked a motorized observatory. Hopefully that will help cut down on the cold as well too!

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George N
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Re: Cherry Springs, PA new [Re: Daniel8802]
      #6112965 - 10/02/13 11:31 AM

Quote:

Oh wow, it seems pretty harsh up there. I thought it would be OK since it is early November. I am also renting one of the observatories now so hopefully that will help too.




That's why it's dark! ....nobody lives there 'cuz of the tough weather conditions!

Actually, the weather can be just about *anything*, so you need to monitor what is happening just before you go, and 'be prepared'. I've seen Cherry Springs in the fall go from 'shorts and t-shirt' days to 'winter coat' nights, especially if clear..... so remember to bring your dew (frost) heater for your scope! ....and warm dry clothes for yourself. There will likely be a few folks on the field, but you may be there all by yourself, with poor to no cell phone coverage.


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Doc Willie
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Re: Cherry Springs, PA new [Re: George N]
      #6113241 - 10/02/13 02:13 PM

I have stayed at the Mill Stream Inn. It is a very nice place with good service, and I would recommend it.

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Dave Mitsky
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Re: Cherry Springs, PA new [Re: Doc Willie]
      #6113476 - 10/02/13 04:20 PM

Ditto.

Dave Mitsky


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Daniel8802
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Re: Cherry Springs, PA new [Re: Dave Mitsky]
      #6114953 - 10/03/13 11:24 AM

Did you stay in a cabin or the main hotel, I was thinking of a cabin. What were your rates like?

Also, what kind of dew blaster does everyone use? That is one thing that I do not have that I will need to purchase soon!


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zeldaboy101
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Re: Cherry Springs, PA new [Re: Daniel8802]
      #6115157 - 10/03/13 01:11 PM

Stay at the Frosty Hollow B&B, maybe 10 minutes down the road from the park. It's closer than Mill Stream, much cozier, and the breakfast is incredible. You may be able to negotiate a lower rate since it's not crowded in November. You won't regret staying there.

http://www.frostyhollowbandb.com/

If you haven't been to many remote star parties this is going to be a tough start if you're not prepared. Average low in town early november is 30-33 degrees, but at the park I wouldn't be surprised to see 20's. Snow is absolutely possible.

My recommendations for staying warm:
Long johns - warmest and heaviest you can get
Many many layers. No cotton.
Winter boots, the warmer the better, and preferably with a good insole that'll insulate you from the cold ground/cement pad.
Heaviest jacket, gloves, 2 pairs of socks, and hat you have.
Hand warmers, in your boots, pants pockets, even your gloves can help you stay warm.
Warm beverages can be handy too.

It's better to be overprepared and able to get too warm, than frozen under the darkest skies you traveled so far to get to, but cant stand to be out observing.

You can't drive off the field at night, so park your car across the street before dark.


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stacpa17
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Re: Cherry Springs, PA new [Re: zeldaboy101]
      #6115456 - 10/03/13 03:37 PM

another option is to drive south 400 miles!!

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George N
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Re: Cherry Springs, PA new [Re: Daniel8802]
      #6117033 - 10/04/13 11:17 AM

Quote:

..... Also, what kind of dew blaster does everyone use? That is one thing that I do not have that I will need to purchase soon!




In November we call it a "frost blaster"!

....and if you don't have one, don't come to Cherry Springs, 'cuz you'll need it on 3 out of 4 nights. I've seen a goodly number of folks sitting under a wonderfully clear and dark sky at Cherry Springs, glumly looking at their dewed/frosted up telescope (and don't forget eyepieces, finder, etc also dew up).

As for recommendations: you'd be better off asking in the Equipment area, but I have two Kendrick units, plus a number of warmer straps. Back in June at Cherry Springs I found out how easy it is to short out one of these, so you do need to be careful using them. The 'gorilla astronomy' solution is to rubber-band hand warmer packets onto your equipment (not good for SCTs, but works for small refractors, eyepieces, Dob secondarys, finders, camera lenses), and then you can put them in your sleeping bag after observing to keep your toes warm!


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George N
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Re: Cherry Springs, PA new [Re: stacpa17]
      #6117036 - 10/04/13 11:19 AM

Quote:

another option is to drive south 400 miles!!




He wants to observe stars, not hurricanes.....


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TonyDralle
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Re: Cherry Springs, PA new [Re: George N]
      #6123505 - 10/07/13 08:00 PM

You mention cabins and "the main hotel." Perhaps you are not aware that there are none of these at Cherry Springs State Park -- just a large observing field (with observatory domes which can be reserved). You either sleep in a tent, a camping vehicle, or at a motel/bed & breakfast, of which there are a few within 10-12 miles.

- Tony


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George N
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Re: Cherry Springs, PA new [Re: TonyDralle]
      #6128193 - 10/10/13 12:17 AM

Is the road open from Galeton to CSSP (that goes past Lyman Run)?

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Dave Mitsky
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Re: Cherry Springs, PA new [Re: George N]
      #6129245 - 10/10/13 02:34 PM

According to Tony Donnangelo, who was observing at the park earlier this month, West Branch Road is not currently open.

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John Vogt
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Re: Cherry Springs, PA new [Re: Dave Mitsky]
      #6129364 - 10/10/13 03:36 PM

I drove all of Branch Road last Friday on my way home and the road crew was paving the remaining .6 mi. of road that needed new asphalt. I think at this point the paving should be complete with only the guard rail left to install. In any event, it should be a pleasure to drive the entire length now.

John


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Dave Mitsky
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Re: Cherry Springs, PA new [Re: John Vogt]
      #6135075 - 10/13/13 01:53 PM

CSSP regular Gary Honis recently posted an aerial video of the park shot from a remotely-controlled helicopter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Vw-OGr0z_9I

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George N
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Re: Cherry Springs, PA new [Re: Dave Mitsky]
      #6136919 - 10/14/13 12:56 PM

Quote:

CSSP regular Gary Honis recently posted an aerial video of the park shot from a remotely-controlled helicopter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Vw-OGr0z_9I

Dave Mitsky




That's really neat!

For anyone who has not been to Cherry Springs, what is not shown in the video is: the CCC era log pavilion where the presentations are given during the 2 star parties, and the camping sites along the south edge of the old airfield. Both of these are under the trees.


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Daniel8802
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Re: Cherry Springs, PA new [Re: Dave Mitsky]
      #6141938 - 10/16/13 10:15 PM

That was an awesome video and great tour of the park!! I'm hoping for a CME now when I get there to see the auroras. I've never really had a good view of them, so that's something to look forward to as well!

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Daniel8802
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Re: Cherry Springs, PA new [Re: Daniel8802]
      #6141952 - 10/16/13 10:19 PM

Also, does anyone know what the power is like in observatories? How much can it draw and what kind of devices can I plug in? If I wanted to plug in my goto, an occasional hair dryer (dew build up) as well as a coffee pot perhaps would that over load the system?

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George N
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Re: Cherry Springs, PA new [Re: Daniel8802]
      #6142072 - 10/16/13 11:48 PM

Quote:

Also, does anyone know what the power is like in observatories? How much can it draw and what kind of devices can I plug in? If I wanted to plug in my goto, an occasional hair dryer (dew build up) as well as a coffee pot perhaps would that over load the system?




You better call the park and ask. You have to call to reserve one anyway. I've heard rumors that there are problems with one or more of the domes.

All of the AC on the field is suppose to be for astro gear only, but if you ask nice, they might agree to a coffee pot.


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Daniel8802
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Re: Cherry Springs, PA new [Re: George N]
      #6142713 - 10/17/13 11:11 AM

I do have an observatory reserved already so no worries there. I sent them an email so we will say what they say. Maybe I can find a DC power coffee pot and plug it into a portable battery pack hah!

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Skywatchr
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Re: Cherry Springs, PA new [Re: Daniel8802]
      #6143287 - 10/17/13 04:32 PM

Don't worry, the circuits can handle a coffee pot.

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AsleepAtTheScope
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Re: Cherry Springs, PA new [Re: Dave Mitsky]
      #6143834 - 10/17/13 09:57 PM

I notice in the video that pretty much no one is set up over by the observatories. I came early to the 2013 Black Forest star party and noticed the same thing. Is there some reason to avoid being closer to the park entrance?

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Re: Cherry Springs, PA new [Re: AsleepAtTheScope]
      #6143867 - 10/17/13 10:17 PM

Light spillover from vehicles leaving the area across the street, inability to see a good chunk of the northern sky and the high traffic in the area is why we don't set up there.

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Re: Cherry Springs, PA new [Re: star drop]
      #6143908 - 10/17/13 10:45 PM

Quote:

Light spillover from vehicles leaving the area across the street, inability to see a good chunk of the northern sky and the high traffic in the area is why we don't set up there.




Ah! Thanks


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George N
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Re: Cherry Springs, PA new [Re: star drop]
      #6145610 - 10/18/13 09:02 PM

Quote:

Light spillover from vehicles leaving the area across the street, inability to see a good chunk of the northern sky and the high traffic in the area is why we don't set up there.




Also, during the daytime, the public has "discovered" the bathrooms, and there can be frequent drive-ins to use the bathrooms from folks going by on the highway. Although they are not a problem, all of this driving can kick up dust during dry periods.

On the other hand, you are closer to the bathrooms when you set up there, and people leaving their scopes on the field, but staying in a local motel or B&B, can get to their car across the road with a shorter walk.

Personally, I prefer to set up my scopes around the middle of the field, but put my tent under the trees along the west side of the field. That gives the best sky coverage, and is usually the driest part of the field.


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George N
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Re: Cherry Springs, PA new [Re: George N]
      #6145616 - 10/18/13 09:06 PM

BTW, I'm still thinking of going to CSSP for one more 3 or 4 night run when the moon goes away. However, the weather guys are saying our warm weather is going away too, and we might start seeing the first wet snowflakes of the year next week, so I need to find my long underwear and winter sleeping bag!

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Daniel8802
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Re: Cherry Springs, PA new [Re: George N]
      #6146199 - 10/19/13 08:27 AM

I'm kind of excited that it will be cold when I go up, and a chance of snow would be nice too! I will be staying in a cabin so I'm not totally roughing it at least. I'll be staying in kenshire campground and the cabins have heat, electric and hot water.

Those are good points you made about the observatories. Maybe I'll setup one scope in and one scope out of it. But if it we do end up having a nice coating of snow on the ground I'll be glad I reserved one!


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ischua
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Re: Cherry Springs, PA new [Re: Daniel8802]
      #6154326 - 10/23/13 07:56 PM

From the PA DCNR they are showing these dates for next year

Cherry Springs Star Party
6/26/14 THU 6/29/14 SUN


Black Forest Star Party
8/22/14 FRI 8/24/14 SUN


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Daniel8802
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Re: Cherry Springs, PA new [Re: ischua]
      #6157937 - 10/25/13 05:54 PM

How have things been up there for people who go when there is not a schedule star party? I am worried that I may have a washed-out sky due to the natural gas drilling. My only hope maybe that (the new campground) I made a reservation for is 40 minutes south of CSSP.

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George N
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Re: Cherry Springs, PA new [Re: ischua]
      #6159406 - 10/26/13 03:47 PM

Quote:

From the PA DCNR they are showing these dates for next year

Cherry Springs Star Party
6/26/14 THU 6/29/14 SUN


Black Forest Star Party
8/22/14 FRI 8/24/14 SUN




Going......


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George N
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Re: Cherry Springs, PA new [Re: Daniel8802]
      #6159419 - 10/26/13 03:56 PM

Quote:

How have things been up there for people who go when there is not a schedule star party? I am worried that I may have a washed-out sky due to the natural gas drilling. My only hope maybe that (the new campground) I made a reservation for is 40 minutes south of CSSP.




I've not been to Cherry Springs, other than a major star party, since last year - when I did two non-party observing runs. However, it's my understanding that, thanks to the low gas prices, drilling in Potter Co is currently close to, or at, nil. Beyond that, any impact would only be a noticeable but limited light pillar near the horizon - certainly not anything like "a washed out sky". You will be hard pressed to find better skies in the eastern half of North America, and a friend who recently went to Oki-Tex told me that in some whys he thinks Cherry Springs is better.


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