Return to the Cloudy Nights Telescope Reviews home pageAstronomics discounts for Cloudy Nights members
Get a Cloudy Nights T-Shirt Submit a Review / Article

Click here if you are having trouble logging into the forums

Privacy Policy | Please read our Terms of Service | Signup and Troubleshooting FAQ | Problems? PM a Red or a Green Gu uh, User

CN Feedback and Vendor Announcements >> Vendor and Group Announcements

Pages: 1 | 2 | (show all)
Catalin Fus
Vendor CFF Telescopes


Reged: 08/20/07

Loc: Krakow, Poland
CFF Telescopes - oilspaced apochromats
      #4495739 - 04/04/11 12:44 PM

Hi,

my name is Catalin Fus and I'm the co-owner of CFF Telescopes, a business which is a partnership between me and the owner of GPU Optical, Mr Pal Gyulai, in order to offer very high quality OTAs, made entirely in EU (this includes the lenses).
Some of you might have heard about GPU Optical from the reviews present here on the website and from threads in ATM section.

Our website is 'under-construction' and soon we will have telescopes available.
This year we will offer the following :
102mm f6.25 triplets - available
127mm f7 aspheric triplets - available end of May
160mm f6.5 aspheric triplets - available end of October/early Nov

All our tubes/adapters are CNC machined, anodized and/or powdercoated, fully flocked, fully baffled for unvignetted 45mm diameter image circle and with 3 choices of focusers -Moonlite 2.5'', Baader SteelTrack 3'', Starlight FT 3.5''.

Please feel free to ask any questions via email (contact tab on the website in my signature).

Thanks for reading
Catalin Fus

Edited by Catalin Fus (04/05/11 05:06 PM)


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Catalin Fus
Vendor CFF Telescopes


Reged: 08/20/07

Loc: Krakow, Poland
Re: CFF Telescopes - oilspaced apochromats new [Re: Catalin Fus]
      #4513399 - 04/12/11 01:11 PM

Hi,

number of OTAs available and prices are as follows :

102mm f/6.25 - 3 (three) with lead time 1 month for building whole OTA - 1890 Euro + VAT for EU citizens
127mm f/7 Aspheric - 3 (three) - end of May I can accept orders for building OTA - price will be around 3800 Euro + VAT for EU citizens
160mm f/6.5 Aspheric - 9 (nine) - end of September/October I can accept orders for building OTA - expected price will be around 6900 Euro + VAT for EU citizens

prices do not include shipping but includes packaging/crating.

Our warranty for all our scopes is 2 years. All tubes and their adapters are made entirely from aluminium alloys.

Thanks for your interest!
Catalin Fus

Edited by Catalin Fus (04/12/11 01:13 PM)


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
ASTERON
Carpal Tunnel
*****

Reged: 11/24/07

Loc: ISRAEL
Re: CFF Telescopes - oilspaced apochromats new [Re: Catalin Fus]
      #4520723 - 04/15/11 05:06 PM

Catalin,
are the quoted prices with the feathertouch 3.5" focuser ?
If not, what are the prices with the three different focuser types?
Thanks

Edited by ASTERON (04/15/11 05:10 PM)


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Catalin Fus
Vendor CFF Telescopes


Reged: 08/20/07

Loc: Krakow, Poland
Re: CFF Telescopes - oilspaced apochromats new [Re: ASTERON]
      #4521440 - 04/16/11 01:34 AM

Hi,

for the 102mm price is with 2.5'' Moonlite as standard offer or I can build using a 3'' Baader Steeltrack which will be the same as price. In my humble opinion, more than 3'' is overkill for this type of telescope.
I have a user who reported only 4% vignetting in the corners of the full-frame CCD he owns, using the design around 2.5'' Moonlite.
As we will not be a manufacturer with big series of telescopes, rather small series of very high quality, I can accept order around any configuration and I might offer 3'' FT for the 102mm, with a small increase in price (around 150E, netto)

For the 127mm AS offer is with 2.5'' Moonlite/3'' Baader Steeltrack also but I can offer it with 3'' or 3.5'' FT for a small difference (150 - 350E).

For the 160mm and bigger sizes, 3.5'' FT will be standard and I will accept orders based on other focusers if a customer needs it mostly for visual and in this case, the price will drop a little (up to 350E netto).

I hope this responds your questions. If you want more details please write me here on in private.

Thank you very much for your interest!
Catalin Fus


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Cyclop_si
professor emeritus
*****

Reged: 03/13/08

Loc: Slovenia
Re: CFF Telescopes - oilspaced apochromats new [Re: Catalin Fus]
      #4551061 - 04/29/11 07:09 AM

Catalin,

Do you have any estimate for 160 f/6.5 weight?
Thanks.


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Catalin Fus
Vendor CFF Telescopes


Reged: 08/20/07

Loc: Krakow, Poland
Re: CFF Telescopes - oilspaced apochromats new [Re: Cyclop_si]
      #4551439 - 04/29/11 11:26 AM

Hi David,

this February I have built a 140/1200 for a friend here in Poland, in the same tubing as the 160s will be put into, so I can give an approximate weight of 10.5kgs, including rings. In my opinion, there is still room for improvement and I hope I will not cross this weight of 10.5 - 11 kgs. Tube will be shorter, I estimate minimum length around 900mm.

I have uploaded infos on the website for all scopes we plan to make this year and a new focal length is available for the 160mm, 160mm f/8.

Thank you for your interest!
Catalin Fus


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Catalin Fus
Vendor CFF Telescopes


Reged: 08/20/07

Loc: Krakow, Poland
Re: CFF Telescopes - oilspaced apochromats new [Re: Catalin Fus]
      #4551468 - 04/29/11 11:44 AM

Hi,

as I have started to mention in the previous response for David, the website now has been updated and I have organized data in the final form. Pictures and data will be added step by step as we finish scopes.
Price estimation and available focuser options have been uploaded for every model.

We have added also a 160mm f/8 focal length and this will be available together with the 160mm f/6.5 AS.

We can take orders for the 102mm and 127mm.

for the 127 f/7 lens you can find review here, on CN

http://www.cloudynights.com/item.php?item_id=1662

mechanically the scope will be totally different and can be put near best scopes available today without any doubt.

for the 102mm , we will have feedback from previous customers on our website soon.

Thanks for your interest
Catalin Fus


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Cyclop_si
professor emeritus
*****

Reged: 03/13/08

Loc: Slovenia
Re: CFF Telescopes - oilspaced apochromats new [Re: Catalin Fus]
      #4551986 - 04/29/11 04:42 PM

Catalin, thanks for replay and I will keep my eye on your projects.

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Catalin Fus
Vendor CFF Telescopes


Reged: 08/20/07

Loc: Krakow, Poland
Re: CFF Telescopes - oilspaced apochromats new [Re: Cyclop_si]
      #4854146 - 10/10/11 03:13 PM

Hello again,

after a long absence in which I made some design changes and took 2 projects from zero (127mm and 160mm APOs) I'm able to announce that the 127mm f7 ASpheric project is finished!
Pictures of the redesigned OTAs and all data for 127mm f7 AS refractor will be available on the website soon.

For the 127s and all bigger scopes that will follow, we will offer a click-stop feature on the dewshield.

Another good news is that prices have gone down as follows:

- 100E less for the 102mm f6.3 (last one available) => now is 2219 Euro with 24% VAT which means 1790 Euro netto export.
- 300E less for the 127mm f7 ASpheric => now is 4340 Euro with 24% VAT which means 3500 Euro netto export.

160mm f6.5 ASpheric project is on the right track with first lens/OTA + all data expected to be available by the end of this year.

Thank you for your interest!


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Catalin Fus
Vendor CFF Telescopes


Reged: 08/20/07

Loc: Krakow, Poland
Re: CFF Telescopes - oilspaced apochromats new [Re: Catalin Fus]
      #4862321 - 10/15/11 11:53 AM

Because webmaster is unavailable and pictures + new data will be uploaded later than expected on our website , please find below some useful facts and latest pictures.

102mm f6.3 - 2219 Euro, includes 24% VAT (1790Euro netto)
last one available for sale!!
- 180mm back-focus
- 2.5'' Moonlite focuser
- rings included
- aplanatic oilspaced triplet, built only with Schott glass
- Minimum Length - 50 cm
- Maximum Length - 60 cm
- Weight - 6kgs , including rings

127mm f7 ASpheric - 4340 Euro, includes VAT 24% (3500 Euro netto)
Available in 4-6 weeks.
- 180mm back-focus
- 2.5'' Moonlite / 3'' FT ( + 250 Euro)
- CNC rings included
- click-stop dewshield
- aplanatic oilspaced triplet, built only with Schott glass
- Minimum Length - 76.5 cm
- Maximum Length - 91 cm
- Weight - 7.9 kgs, including rings

Soon, 160mm f6.5 ASpheric!! (End of 2011)

102mm f6.3





127mm f7 ASpheric




Thank You for Your interest!


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
prichardson
member


Reged: 10/26/11

Re: CFF Telescopes - oilspaced apochromats new [Re: Catalin Fus]
      #4926579 - 11/20/11 05:55 PM

Will CFF scopes be available to the US?

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Catalin Fus
Vendor CFF Telescopes


Reged: 08/20/07

Loc: Krakow, Poland
Re: CFF Telescopes - oilspaced apochromats new [Re: prichardson]
      #4927215 - 11/21/11 02:20 AM

Hi,

you can buy directly from us, using netto prices as reference, without problems. In the future , when production / request will need it, a dealer will be found :-).

Thank you,


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Catalin Fus
Vendor CFF Telescopes


Reged: 08/20/07

Loc: Krakow, Poland
Re: CFF Telescopes - oilspaced apochromats new [Re: Catalin Fus]
      #4974255 - 12/19/11 01:55 PM

Hi,

I'll gladly like to inform you that a Yahoo group/forum was open, for all people who already own a GPU Optical lens based OTA, owners of new CFF Telescopes brand and people who might want to join to address us directly (me and my business partner, Mr Pal Gyulai), diferent questions regarding our work.

Name of group is CFF Refractors.

We have added 'reviews' tab on our website, a page that will post feedback from owners.

As new information regarding refractors, the 160mm f6.5 Aspheric will have available a special designed Field Corrector for larger chips. 64mm clear aperture and full frame correction of all aberrations inherent to the triplet lens design.

Thank You for Your Interest!


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Ira
Carpal Tunnel
*****

Reged: 08/22/10

Loc: Mitzpe Ramon, Israel
Re: CFF Telescopes - oilspaced apochromats new [Re: Catalin Fus]
      #4976889 - 12/20/11 10:19 PM

These look beautiful. I hope I can afford the 160mm one day. Best of luck!

/Ira


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Catalin Fus
Vendor CFF Telescopes


Reged: 08/20/07

Loc: Krakow, Poland
Re: CFF Telescopes - oilspaced apochromats new [Re: Ira]
      #4977211 - 12/21/11 05:17 AM

Thank You Ira! The same to You :-)!!

Regards,


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Catalin Fus
Vendor CFF Telescopes


Reged: 08/20/07

Loc: Krakow, Poland
Re: CFF Telescopes - oilspaced apochromats new [Re: Catalin Fus]
      #5034106 - 01/23/12 03:21 PM

Some small updates :

- the 102mm f6.3 are sold out!
- the price for the 127mm f7 Aspheric will be lowered a little to 3990 Euro, VAT included for EU buyers. Netto price is 3217 Euro or 4182 USD. Rings and hardcase are included in the price. Price given is for 2.5'' Moonlite focuser, for 3'' FT, price will be a little higher.
- the price for the 160mm f6.5 Aspheric has been established at 8560 Euro, VAT included for EU buyers. Netto price is 6900 Euro or 8970 USD. Rings and hardcase are included in the price. Standard focuser option here is 3.5'' Feathertouch. If your option goes for another focuser, like 3'' Feathertouch or 2.5'' Moonlite, price is lower.
- we can take special orders for 160mm f8. Price and options are identical to the 160mm f6.5 Aspheric.
- our Field Corrector will work with both of these 160mm scopes, with minimal difference in space to the imaging chip(4mm). Connection to the focuser is M72 and to the camera is M72 or M68.
- we will start to be present at Fairs and Star-Parties, for the beginning in Europe. I'll give more details when dates and events we'll attend are established.

Thank You!


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Mark9473
Postmaster
*****

Reged: 07/21/05

Loc: 51N 4E
Re: CFF Telescopes - oilspaced apochromats new [Re: Catalin Fus]
      #5034486 - 01/23/12 07:39 PM

Is there a general astronomy store in Europe that carries your products? It would be an advantage to those who want to trade in their current scope(s) when buying one of yours.

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Catalin Fus
Vendor CFF Telescopes


Reged: 08/20/07

Loc: Krakow, Poland
Re: CFF Telescopes - oilspaced apochromats new [Re: Mark9473]
      #5034915 - 01/24/12 02:45 AM

Mark,

we are in discussions with Robtics, from Netherland. As soon as we'are finishing all details, I'll post here.

We will have also 'trade'in' but only for our products. Maybe we will accept also other items in the trade'in , but they have to be refractors and marketable. We will make a decision about this in the near future.

Thanks,

Edited by Catalin Fus (01/24/12 11:11 AM)


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Mr Onions
Two Time International Photographical Competition Winner
*****

Reged: 04/14/07

Loc: Newcastle upon Tyne.
Re: CFF Telescopes - oilspaced apochromats new [Re: Catalin Fus]
      #5043973 - 01/29/12 11:14 AM

I'd be very interested if you had a UK dealer!
Goodluck with your venture.

P.S. I like a lot of Polish heavy metal bands.


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Catalin Fus
Vendor CFF Telescopes


Reged: 08/20/07

Loc: Krakow, Poland
Re: CFF Telescopes - oilspaced apochromats new [Re: Mr Onions]
      #5045363 - 01/30/12 02:47 AM

Thanks!!

Well, for now we have the challenge to present ourselves to the market. After we will have a sufficient request for our products, we will develop a dealer network.

You can contact always contact via e-mail if there are special requests regarding a possible order. We will support our customers in the best way possible I guess :-).

Thanks,


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Catalin Fus
Vendor CFF Telescopes


Reged: 08/20/07

Loc: Krakow, Poland
Re: CFF Telescopes - oilspaced apochromats new [Re: Catalin Fus]
      #5148856 - 03/30/12 02:03 PM

For those of you living in Europe and willing to travel to ATT - Essen, on 5th of May, I will gladly like to inform you that we will be present there with the following items :

1 x 127mm f7 Aspheric
2.5'' Moonlite focuser option, 114mm travel, 180mm back-focus, rings, hardcase.
Price 3710 Euros, including 24% VAT.

1 x 127mm f7 Aspheric
3'' Starlight FT focuser option, 89mm travel, 180mm back-focus, rings, hardcase.
Price 3990 Euros, including 24% VAT.

1 x 160mm f6.5 Aspheric
3.5'' Starlight FT focuser option, 114mm travel, 180mm back-focus, rings, hardcase.
Price 8560 Euros, including 24% VAT.

Field Corrector for 160mm f6.5 - 435 Euros, including 24% VAT.

Outside EU prices, please subtract VAT (24%)

Thank You!


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Traveler
Pooh-Bah


Reged: 08/19/07

Loc: The Netherlands
Re: CFF Telescopes - oilspaced apochromats new [Re: Catalin Fus]
      #5149723 - 03/31/12 05:37 AM

Good to know that you travel to ATT. I hope to meet you there and see your telescopes live. Hope you will bring the 160mm f6.5 with you.

Any news about Robtics' dealership?


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Catalin Fus
Vendor CFF Telescopes


Reged: 08/20/07

Loc: Krakow, Poland
Re: CFF Telescopes - oilspaced apochromats new [Re: Traveler]
      #5149840 - 03/31/12 08:35 AM

Hi,

there will be the 160mm f6.5, just as mentioned above . You can contact Robtics for more details, they will be of help . See you there !!

Thank You


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
prichardson
member


Reged: 10/26/11

Re: CFF Telescopes - oilspaced apochromats new [Re: Catalin Fus]
      #5150482 - 03/31/12 04:54 PM

Any chance of posting some images of the 160 f6.5??

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Catalin Fus
Vendor CFF Telescopes


Reged: 08/20/07

Loc: Krakow, Poland
Re: CFF Telescopes - oilspaced apochromats new [Re: prichardson]
      #5151114 - 04/01/12 02:05 AM

Images will be posted, but in the last part of this month (after 20th of April).

Thank You


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Catalin Fus
Vendor CFF Telescopes


Reged: 08/20/07

Loc: Krakow, Poland
Re: CFF Telescopes - oilspaced apochromats new [Re: Catalin Fus]
      #5227804 - 05/18/12 05:55 AM

Hi,

it is time for a little update :-).

We have finished first 3 units of 160mm f6.5 and already 2 have been sold. The 3rd one will be avaialable in the second part of June (3-4 weeks from now).

What we can offer from stock or with 3-4 weeks delivery, is the following :

127mm f7 Aspheric
2.5'' Moonlite focuser option, 114mm travel, 180mm back-focus, rings, hardcase.
Price 3710 Euros, including 24% VAT. (2992 Euro netto)

127mm f7 Aspheric
3'' Starlight FT focuser option, 89mm travel, 180mm back-focus, rings, hardcase.
Price 3990 Euros, including 24% VAT. (3218 Euro netto)

160mm f6.5 Aspheric
3.5'' Starlight FT focuser option, 114mm travel, 180mm back-focus, rings, hardcase.
Price 8990 Euros, including 24% VAT. (7250 Euro netto)

Field Corrector for 160mm f6.5 - 435 Euros, including 24% VAT. (350 Euro netto)

Made in EU! Warranty 2 years, minimum .96 Strehl guaranteed!

NON-EU citizens, please convert to your price by using netto value and daily exchange rate.

Please feel free to contact me if you have questions or want more info.

Thank You,









Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Catalin Fus
Vendor CFF Telescopes


Reged: 08/20/07

Loc: Krakow, Poland
Re: CFF Telescopes - oilspaced apochromats new [Re: Catalin Fus]
      #5262823 - 06/09/12 02:54 AM

Hello astro-friends,

as we speak, we can offer the following OTAs and Accessories, from stock or with short delivery time.

102mm f6.3 - oilspaced triplet
2.5'' Moonlite DC electric focuser, 114mm travel, 180mm back-focus, rings, hardcase.
This is 'a special unit', my own personal telescope, that features a .99 Strehl lens, aspherized. It is the last one from a batch of 20 lenses.
Price 2090 Euro/ 2612 $ - personal sale.

This is the best 102mm lens on the market. Period.

127mm f7 Aspheric - oilspaced triplet
2.5'' Moonlite focuser option, 114mm travel, 180mm back-focus, rings, hardcase.
Price 3710 Euro, including 24% VAT (2990 Euro netto) - available on stock.

127mm f7 Aspheric - oilspaced triplet
3'' Starlight FT focuser option, 89mm travel, 180mm back-focus, rings, hardcase.
Price 3990 Euro, including 24% VAT (3218 Euro netto) - available on stock.

The above are using Schott Fluorite-like glass, are hand polished in the final phase for a smooth finish and high Strehl ratio. Typical Strehl is .98 . One surface is aspherized for best focus of yellow-green light, where eye is most sensitive.

These lenses can easily handle a magnification equal to three times their aperture in mm (as example, the 127mm f7, above 350x), when atmospheric condition allow it.

160mm f6.5 Aspheric - oilspaced triplet
3.5'' Starlight FT focuser option, 114mm travel, 180mm back-focus, rings, hardcase.
Price 8990 Euro, including 24% VAT (7250 Euro netto) - available at end of June.

160mm f6.5 is built around an FPL53 core, hand polished just as all our refractors are, aspherized.
Coatings are multi-layer type, with 99.5% transmission, for all refractors.
Pictures of all OTAs above, can be found on the website!

Field Corrector for 160mm f6.5 - 435 Euro, including 24% VAT (350 Euro netto).
*all our OTAs can be used for imaging with 3rd party reducers/corrector as long as they are designed for aplanatic objectives - free of coma - as our objective lenses are*

From Autumn 2012, we will have very affordable Cassegrain and Ritchey Chretien OTAs, quality proven with Interferogram, CF truss or CF tube construction.

As we are making OTAs, one by one, in case the mechanics are not produced, we can take special orders in terms of back-focus, color, accessories.

Everything we do is made in Europe and we are an OEM!!
For USD prices, please multiply the netto price with the exchange rate.

Thank You in advance for Your interest!
Catalin


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Catalin Fus
Vendor CFF Telescopes


Reged: 08/20/07

Loc: Krakow, Poland
Re: CFF Telescopes - oilspaced apochromats new [Re: Catalin Fus]
      #5345362 - 07/31/12 01:58 PM

One more update if anybody interested. We will have available a number of 180mm f7 oilspaced triplets for the price of 13.990 Euro, VAT included. Netto price is 11.282 Euro (~13.700 $ at current exchange rate).
Includes rings, case.
OTA will have around 15kgs with rings, around one meter length with dewshield retracted, 220mm standard back-focus,
3.5'' FT focuser as standard. Other focusers available and price can be lower (2.5'' Moonlite, 3'' FT).

Thank You!

Clear skies,


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Catalin Fus
Vendor CFF Telescopes


Reged: 08/20/07

Loc: Krakow, Poland
Re: CFF Telescopes - oilspaced apochromats new [Re: Catalin Fus]
      #5428646 - 09/19/12 02:05 AM

Hi,

after a pretty busy period, I'm back with 2 little updates :

1 - first 180mm f7 lens/OTA were done (delivered to a customer), and we can give the following specs :

Clear aperture: 180mm
Focal length: 1260mm
Minimum Length: 1090 mm
Maximum Length: 1370 mm
Back-focus: 220mm
Weight: 16 kg, including rings
The specs are with 3.5'' FT focuser. For smaller focuser units - 2.5'' or 3'' - the weight will go lower!

Webpage will be updated soon with new specs and some pictures!!

2 - For anybody interested in our products, from UK, we will work there with Altair Astro Systems!!!

Kind regards,
Catalin

Edited by Catalin Fus (09/19/12 02:06 AM)


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Catalin Fus
Vendor CFF Telescopes


Reged: 08/20/07

Loc: Krakow, Poland
Re: CFF Telescopes - oilspaced apochromats new [Re: Catalin Fus]
      #5453568 - 10/03/12 01:46 PM

With 1st trimester of 2013 we will have available 140mm OTAs with f6.6 and f7.5 focal ratio. FPL-53 based like all our lenses with a very nice and smooth wavefront.
Target price is 5990 Euro, with VAT, including rings and hardcase. Price for outside EU countries - 4830 Euro.

From time to time, we have 'specials' as we receive scopes back for upgrades from former clients. Please ask and I'll gladly inform what is available.

Thank You!


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Pages: 1 | 2 | (show all)


Extra information
6 registered and 6 anonymous users are browsing this forum.

Moderator:  Brian Risley, bilgebay 

Print Thread

Forum Permissions
      You cannot start new topics
      You cannot reply to topics
      HTML is disabled
      UBBCode is enabled


Thread views: 7736

Jump to

CN Forums Home


Cloudy Nights LLC
Cloudy Nights Sponsor: Astronomics