Return to the Cloudy Nights Telescope Reviews home pageAstronomics discounts for Cloudy Nights members
Get a Cloudy Nights T-Shirt Submit a Review / Article

Click here if you are having trouble logging into the forums

Privacy Policy | Please read our Terms of Service | Signup and Troubleshooting FAQ | Problems? PM a Red or a Green Gu uh, User

CN Feedback and Vendor Announcements >> Vendor and Group Announcements

Pages: 1 | 2 | 3 | (show all)
Bas van Krieken
Vendor - FOViewer


Reged: 10/14/08

Loc: Amersfoort, the Netherlands
Got Android? Please test!
      #4528393 - 04/19/11 07:32 AM

Hi all!

I really hope I'm not violating any forum rules by posting this message, if it does, then I apologize upfront to the wise and omnipotent moderators!

If you own an Android phone, I would like to invite you to try my new Android application, FOViewer. You can find it in the Android Market.
This is my first Android application and I really need some constructive feedback on it so that I can make it even better. And who better to judge my astronomy related programming skills than you folks?

Feel free to discus your experiences with the app in this thread, I'm really looking forward to your feedback!


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
psonice
Pooh-Bah


Reged: 07/24/09

Loc: Warrington, UK
Re: Got Android? Please test! new [Re: Bas van Krieken]
      #4528502 - 04/19/11 08:58 AM

No android here, but that looks good

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Bas van Krieken
Vendor - FOViewer


Reged: 10/14/08

Loc: Amersfoort, the Netherlands
Re: Got Android? Please test! new [Re: psonice]
      #4528515 - 04/19/11 09:07 AM

Thanks! I've tried to use a nightvision friendly UI as much as possible. And because I like nice UI's myself, I went beyond the boring standard buttons and stuff

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
psonice
Pooh-Bah


Reged: 07/24/09

Loc: Warrington, UK
Re: Got Android? Please test! new [Re: Bas van Krieken]
      #4528539 - 04/19/11 09:21 AM

Yeah, just the text fields show some grey. I guess the keyboard isn't red too? (I do iOS dev, and have done similar custom UIs.. and yes, the keyboard is a big pain to make red

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Bas van Krieken
Vendor - FOViewer


Reged: 10/14/08

Loc: Amersfoort, the Netherlands
Re: Got Android? Please test! new [Re: psonice]
      #4528551 - 04/19/11 09:29 AM

Nope the keyboard is not nightvision proof I'm afraid, so better add your equipment during the day It's easier to read all the specs from the labels on your equipment during the day anyway

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
psonice
Pooh-Bah


Reged: 07/24/09

Loc: Warrington, UK
Re: Got Android? Please test! new [Re: Bas van Krieken]
      #4528568 - 04/19/11 09:38 AM

If anyone's going to use stuff like this at night and is seriously worried about nightvision, they'll want a rubylith sheet over the screen anyway, because of backlight bleed/lock screen/notifications etc. etc. etc. Covering the basics so you can look up some info is enough

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
cuir
Carpal Tunnel


Reged: 03/03/07

Loc: Up north.
Re: Got Android? Please test! new [Re: psonice]
      #4529813 - 04/19/11 05:41 PM

Nice and works well, and I hope it is just the begining, because this has a lot of potential. Here's a few suggestions to help increase usability and appeal:

- GPS coordinate are too small, increase font size. Through my protector, they are too hard to read.
- Swiping left or right on the target image to switch the eyepiece, and swiping up and down to switch the target would be a welcome addition.
- Having a few small footprint targets would be nice. M57 and M104 would be nice additions.
- Multiple targets for the same FOV would also be nice. Leo triplet, Perseus double and M81+M82.

If you add the proposed targets, this could become a nice teaching tool for more experienced observers helping newbies. As-is, it will help some of the less experienced users, but including the suggested targets would make even more helpful. An easy way of finding out what eyepieces to use for tiny planetary nebulae and galaxies like M57 and the Sombrero would have helped me a lot in my beginnings.




Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
psonice
Pooh-Bah


Reged: 07/24/09

Loc: Warrington, UK
Re: Got Android? Please test! new [Re: cuir]
      #4530073 - 04/19/11 07:28 PM

Pinch to zoom makes a good way to change eyepieces, because you are effectively zooming by changing them.

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Bas van Krieken
Vendor - FOViewer


Reged: 10/14/08

Loc: Amersfoort, the Netherlands
Re: Got Android? Please test! new [Re: psonice]
      #4530794 - 04/20/11 03:00 AM

@Cuir Excellent feedback! Thanks a lot for those suggestions, I've put them all on my ToDo list. I only have two questions;

1. You do know that you can already switch targets by tapping the preview? If you do than could you please explain to me what you mean exactly?
2. What do you mean by multiple targets for the same FOV?

@psonice Pinch to zoom would indeed be a great addition, but not all Android devices support multi-touch pinch to zoom. But I'll keep your suggestion in reserve


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
cuir
Carpal Tunnel


Reged: 03/03/07

Loc: Up north.
Re: Got Android? Please test! new [Re: Bas van Krieken]
      #4531982 - 04/20/11 03:50 PM

Quote:

You do know that you can already switch targets by tapping the preview?




Actually, I did not. I tried to swipe left and right with no results... Never thought of trying a tap... BTW, I noticed M81/81, really cool.


Quote:

multiple targets for the same FOV ?




With a C8, M81/82 cannot quite fit in a Nagler 16's FOV, and both Galaxies are to the left of the FOV circle. Having a way to re-center either image or the FOV circle would be a nice touch.


Keep up the good work.


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Bas van Krieken
Vendor - FOViewer


Reged: 10/14/08

Loc: Amersfoort, the Netherlands
Re: Got Android? Please test! new [Re: cuir]
      #4533590 - 04/21/11 07:33 AM

@cuir
Hmm maybe tapping is not the most intuitive choice for cycling through the previews... Recentering the VOF circle by dragging would conflict with your wish to cycle through the eyepieces by swiping left or right (which I already added to version 1.1 which is in development right now).
I think the easiest solution is to change the m81/82 preview and place the galaxies in the center of the image. I'll get on that.


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
cuir
Carpal Tunnel


Reged: 03/03/07

Loc: Up north.
Re: Got Android? Please test! new [Re: Bas van Krieken]
      #4534348 - 04/21/11 01:19 PM

If you change the image-changing gesture for a swiping motion, Is it possible to create re-centering function which can be started with a "tap & hold" on the image for a second ? Could the "new position" then be saved using the same "tap & hold" trigger ?

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
timmbottoni
Carpal Tunnel


Reged: 08/25/05

Loc: W Chicago suburbs, IL USA
Re: Got Android? Please test! new [Re: cuir]
      #4535580 - 04/21/11 11:09 PM

Downloaded and testing on my Samsung Mesmerize for you

Timm


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
cuir
Carpal Tunnel


Reged: 03/03/07

Loc: Up north.
Re: Got Android? Please test! new [Re: timmbottoni]
      #4550793 - 04/29/11 12:06 AM

Downloaded the update tonight. Thank you for adding M47, M57 and M104. It's nice to see one's input being heard.

I just noticed you are also working on setting up your website. Looking forward to that support section.... Will it be a "Blog with reader Feedback" formula, or an E-mail form type of arrangement ?


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Bas van Krieken
Vendor - FOViewer


Reged: 10/14/08

Loc: Amersfoort, the Netherlands
Re: Got Android? Please test! new [Re: cuir]
      #4550956 - 04/29/11 03:46 AM

Wow cuir! You beat me to it, I was just going to announce the 2.0 update of FOViewer!

You made some very good suggestions so they deserve to be included! I'll try to grand as many wishes for FOViewer as possible.

About the site, my plans are pretty ambitious and include a forum and a form based e-mail service. But if I can arrange it, a Blog with feedback would certainly be a better idea.
But every time I open the Joomla administrator to get some work done, something intervenes and I get nothing done

Ill try to get more stuff on the site asap!


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Bas van Krieken
Vendor - FOViewer


Reged: 10/14/08

Loc: Amersfoort, the Netherlands
Re: Got Android? Please test! new [Re: timmbottoni]
      #4550958 - 04/29/11 03:54 AM

Thanks Timm!

And how does it perform, everything works fine and smooth?
DO you perhaps have some way to make a picture of the app while running on your phone? The Mesmerize is a fairly new phone and I'm wondering how much screen real estate the app is using.

Do you have any wishes concerning the app?


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Bas van Krieken
Vendor - FOViewer


Reged: 10/14/08

Loc: Amersfoort, the Netherlands
Re: Got Android? Please test! new [Re: Bas van Krieken]
      #4551025 - 04/29/11 05:58 AM

There... I finally managed to get some stuff on the site

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
cuir
Carpal Tunnel


Reged: 03/03/07

Loc: Up north.
Re: Got Android? Please test! new [Re: Bas van Krieken]
      #4551204 - 04/29/11 09:06 AM

Good idea, that... My phone's an Atrix. Foviewer was not designed for the 540x960 qHD display, so it's a little offset. Doesn't affect me, but thought you might want to know.






Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
core
Pooh-Bah
*****

Reged: 02/23/08

Loc: Mostly in Norman, OK
Re: Got Android? Please test! new [Re: cuir]
      #4552842 - 04/30/11 02:37 AM

Thanks for the program, couple of observations on my part after testing on Nexus S (2.3.1) and G1 (1.6) - works great on both of 'em:

* great idea for the time/gps/compass info on screen, however it looks like the gps portion is quite a battery drain according to OS's list of what's using phone battery.

* exit pupil info would be nice to have


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
cuir
Carpal Tunnel


Reged: 03/03/07

Loc: Up north.
Re: Got Android? Please test! new [Re: core]
      #4552873 - 04/30/11 03:29 AM

Quote:

exit pupil info would be nice to have




Indeed.


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
CTR01
member


Reged: 04/29/11

Loc: terrestrial Seattle, WA, Earth
Re: Got Android? Please test! new [Re: cuir]
      #4553710 - 04/30/11 03:44 PM

This is my first post to the website, as my account was just approved today but I have already seen/used your app and it is awesome and easy to use, although red isn't my favorite color but it will do I suppose ; )

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
psonice
Pooh-Bah


Reged: 07/24/09

Loc: Warrington, UK
Re: Got Android? Please test! new [Re: CTR01]
      #4553930 - 04/30/11 06:18 PM

Quote:

This is my first post to the website, as my account was just approved today but I have already seen/used your app and it is awesome and easy to use, although red isn't my favorite color but it will do I suppose ; )




Maybe not, but it's your eyes' favourite colour when it's dark. When you're out with a scope, you want to preserve your night vision, and red affects it less than other colours. You'll find pretty much all astronomy apps have red on black for just this reason


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Bas van Krieken
Vendor - FOViewer


Reged: 10/14/08

Loc: Amersfoort, the Netherlands
Re: Got Android? Please test! new [Re: cuir]
      #4556746 - 05/02/11 09:40 AM

@Seb Oh you lucky man you! That is a very nice phone indeed, I'm jealous Thanks for making those screenshots, they're big help! I need to dive into making the layout arrangements auto-resize themselfs...

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Bas van Krieken
Vendor - FOViewer


Reged: 10/14/08

Loc: Amersfoort, the Netherlands
Re: Got Android? Please test! new [Re: core]
      #4556759 - 05/02/11 09:46 AM

Quote:

Thanks for the program, couple of observations on my part after testing on Nexus S (2.3.1) and G1 (1.6) - works great on both of 'em:

* great idea for the time/gps/compass info on screen, however it looks like the gps portion is quite a battery drain according to OS's list of what's using phone battery.

* exit pupil info would be nice to have




The idea for the time / compass / gps features is to help you (and myself) to setup your goto mount. I honestly admit that I never thought of looking at the power consumption for those features. I think I'll only poll the GPS location right after the app starts. In the current version it is polled every second or so (which isn't really necessary).

You want the exit pupil? Done! It's in the next version


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Bas van Krieken
Vendor - FOViewer


Reged: 10/14/08

Loc: Amersfoort, the Netherlands
Re: Got Android? Please test! new [Re: Bas van Krieken]
      #4560579 - 05/04/11 03:02 AM

I've changed the GPS polling to once per start-up of the app. Right after starting the app will wait until it has a GPS lock and then turn GPS off to prevent further power consumption. So if your locations changes (which is unlikely during an observation session), you need to restart the app to get the new coordinates.

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
arpruss
Vendor: Omega Centauri Software
*****

Reged: 05/23/08

Loc: Waco, TX
Re: Got Android? Please test! new [Re: Bas van Krieken]
      #4564984 - 05/06/11 09:54 AM

Quote:

I've changed the GPS polling to once per start-up of the app. Right after starting the app will wait until it has a GPS lock and then turn GPS off to prevent further power consumption.




Maybe a better move would be to check if the GPS is on when your app starts, and then once you're done with GPS, return it to the state it was when your app started. The user might have some background app that uses GPS, after all, or might have some reason for wanting GPS to be active, no?


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Bas van Krieken
Vendor - FOViewer


Reged: 10/14/08

Loc: Amersfoort, the Netherlands
Re: Got Android? Please test! new [Re: arpruss]
      #4576694 - 05/12/11 05:47 AM

As far as I can tell it only turns GPS off in the app, not sure whether it shut's it down completely. I'll have to dive into that some more...

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Kobayashi
Carpal Tunnel
*****

Reged: 07/10/08

Re: Got Android? Please test! new [Re: cuir]
      #4577883 - 05/12/11 05:55 PM

Quote:

Good idea, that... My phone's an Atrix. Foviewer was not designed for the 540x960 qHD display, so it's a little offset. Doesn't affect me, but thought you might want to know.




And it's really small on my EEE Pad Transformer's 800x1280 screen. Works fine otherwise, though.

Is the image size fixed at 2x2 degrees, or did I miss an option to change it?


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
cuir
Carpal Tunnel


Reged: 03/03/07

Loc: Up north.
Re: Got Android? Please test! new [Re: Kobayashi]
      #4581511 - 05/14/11 02:28 PM

Eee pad...

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Bas van Krieken
Vendor - FOViewer


Reged: 10/14/08

Loc: Amersfoort, the Netherlands
Re: Got Android? Please test! new [Re: Kobayashi]
      #4601634 - 05/25/11 07:31 AM

Quote:

And it's really small on my EEE Pad Transformer's 800x1280 screen. Works fine otherwise, though.





Boy there are a lot of lucky people around here! You actaully managed to get your hands on a transformer! I've pre-ordered mine, but haven't heard an eta yet... Holland is always last

The previews are fixed to 2x2 degrees at the moment, that makes the various calculations much easier. As soon as I have my TF101 I'm going to see if I can make larger previews.

To be frank though, I'm not sure if I'm going to incorporate larger previews in the free version... I need features to make the full version more attractive, since only 3 people bought the full version compared to 900 who downloaded the free version... Many thanks to the 3 people who did buy the full version though, I really appreciate it!


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Bas van Krieken
Vendor - FOViewer


Reged: 10/14/08

Loc: Amersfoort, the Netherlands
Re: Got Android? Please test! new [Re: Bas van Krieken]
      #4833456 - 09/29/11 05:10 AM

A quick heads-up. The new version of FOViewer for Android is almost done!

Interesting new features;

- Zooming preview.
- Complete Messier and NGC catalogues available as preview.
- Large compass and GPS coordinates on seperate screen.
- Update systeem to keep catalogues and objects up to date.
- CCD / Camera support, will show you the FOV and calculates arcsec/pixel value.
- Bubble level to help you set up your GOTO scope or dobson.
- Moonphase function.
- Adjustable nightvision brightness using the volume up/down keys (brightness stored as setting).
- Clear Sky Clock based on 7timer using cell tower positioning system (no gps necessary).
- Local time displayed to help you set up your GOTO system.
- Exitpupil calculation.

I'm still trying to add a polarfinder type option, but I can't find a decent formula to calculate the position of Polaris in regards to celestial north. Anybody that can help me out with that?

A HD version for tablets is next, shouldn't be to much work to port the phone version


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
JoseBorrero
Post Laureate
*****

Reged: 09/04/09

Loc: Puerto Rico Island
Re: Got Android? Please test! new [Re: cuir]
      #4833621 - 09/29/11 08:09 AM

It's cool, remind me CCDCalc 1.5, I downloaded like a month ago. It has to be way better cool if you can add DSLR camera field.

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Bas van Krieken
Vendor - FOViewer


Reged: 10/14/08

Loc: Amersfoort, the Netherlands
Re: Got Android? Please test! new [Re: JoseBorrero]
      #4896820 - 11/04/11 03:50 AM

Many of your wishes have come true
You can find the new version of FOViewer, now called FOViewer Deluxe (what's in a name), in the android market. https://market.android.com/details?id=JVC.FOViewerDX&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsIkpWQy5GT1ZpZXdlckRYIl0.

Many of your wishes, including the FOV for CCD/DSLR camera's have been added!

Have fun with it and let me know what you think


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Bas van Krieken
Vendor - FOViewer


Reged: 10/14/08

Loc: Amersfoort, the Netherlands
Re: Got Android? Please test! new [Re: Bas van Krieken]
      #4930669 - 11/23/11 03:52 AM

Nobody tried it yet?

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Sarkikos
Postmaster
*****

Reged: 12/18/07

Loc: Suburban Maryland, USA
Re: Got Android? Please test! new [Re: Bas van Krieken]
      #4932852 - 11/24/11 11:39 AM

Quote:

If you own an Android phone, I would like to invite you to try my new Android application, FOViewer. You can find it in the Android Market.




I can't find it. That URL does not work for me. Which Android version is it? Can it be used with ver. 1.5? Otherwise it won't work on my tablet.

Mike


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
psonice
Pooh-Bah


Reged: 07/24/09

Loc: Warrington, UK
Re: Got Android? Please test! new [Re: Sarkikos]
      #4933793 - 11/25/11 05:50 AM

It's a dead link. Try https://market.android.com/search?q=foviewer

Requires android 1.6 or higher.


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
JoseBorrero
Post Laureate
*****

Reged: 09/04/09

Loc: Puerto Rico Island
Re: Got Android? Please test! new [Re: psonice]
      #4935478 - 11/26/11 10:06 AM

whats the difference between deluxe and deluxe HD?

Looks more complete with NGC catalog wow that's way better. Now is becomming an essential tool On The Go for observing and astrophotography. you can add announcements in DSLR astrophotography forum and other others related to observing, not everyone visit every forum. You can get more ideas in those forums.

you can add planets including our Moon, It will be hit...

Edited by JoseBorrero (11/26/11 10:31 AM)


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Bas van Krieken
Vendor - FOViewer


Reged: 10/14/08

Loc: Amersfoort, the Netherlands
Re: Got Android? Please test! new [Re: JoseBorrero]
      #5250065 - 06/01/12 07:57 AM

I'm happy to inform you that the new version of FOViewer has gone live!

The biggest change in this version is the introduction of the sun and planets! Some of you have asked me several times if I could include them, well, there you are The apparent size of the solar system objects is calculated in real-time using up-to-date solar system data from a web based service.

This version also has the much requested search option, called "Find object" which can be found in the menu of the app.

I hope you will enjoy all these new features and please let me know if you have any new request!



Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
weezy
Carpal Tunnel
*****

Reged: 02/13/04

Loc: East of the sun-west of the mo...
Re: Got Android? Please test! new [Re: Bas van Krieken]
      #5250140 - 06/01/12 09:20 AM

Just downloaded and looked at it. Looks promising. What do you do about the lack of EP selections? More sizes of Wide Angles?

Also you have just generic F5 scope - I have a 120ST, but what if someone has a much larger F5? You would get more light with aperture.


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Bas van Krieken
Vendor - FOViewer


Reged: 10/14/08

Loc: Amersfoort, the Netherlands
Re: Got Android? Please test! new [Re: weezy]
      #5250219 - 06/01/12 10:23 AM

@weezy,

You can add your own telescopes and eyepieces through the "add gear" option in the menu (press menu button)
Depending on your phone's storage space, you can add every telecope, eyepiece or camera known to man

Edited by Bas van Krieken (06/01/12 10:24 AM)


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Bas van Krieken
Vendor - FOViewer


Reged: 10/14/08

Loc: Amersfoort, the Netherlands
Re: Got Android? Please test! new [Re: Bas van Krieken]
      #5321475 - 07/17/12 07:36 AM

It is now possible to rotate the camera FOV and move the FOV around over the preview image. You are welcome my dear astrophotographers

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Bas van Krieken
Vendor - FOViewer


Reged: 10/14/08

Loc: Amersfoort, the Netherlands
Re: Got Android? Please test! new [Re: Bas van Krieken]
      #5494147 - 10/29/12 06:54 AM

From now on, the free version of FOViewer will no longer expire! So you can finally use it indefinitely

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Pages: 1 | 2 | 3 | (show all)


Extra information
9 registered and 15 anonymous users are browsing this forum.

Moderator:  Brian Risley, bilgebay 

Print Thread

Forum Permissions
      You cannot start new topics
      You cannot reply to topics
      HTML is disabled
      UBBCode is enabled


Thread views: 5472

Jump to

CN Forums Home


Cloudy Nights LLC
Cloudy Nights Sponsor: Astronomics