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... I would like to see something that disappears more when under dark conditions than my current white BT70/90. I would have preferred that in black too.

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That's certainly much more of an astronomer's argument than my aesthetic ones. On the other hand, slightly brighter color could help to better be instantly aware about the exact orientation of the instrument. White scope tubes (refractors or newtonians) certainly have a reason to be so. Let's wait and see the end result.

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I required as lightweight as possible housings

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With all due respect, I hope that light weight will not be a trade-off for adequately solid/ruggedly built... I tend to prefer things that are built like a tank, as opposed to lightweight/not as well made... I realize there's a happy spot in there somewhere for all, but just a thought. Just hoping it will be a solid build quality!

One additional thought- how about incorporating rubber plug-covered ports of some sort- or some sort of access to lend easy access to collimation adjustments? Seems there's always a bit of tweaking required- and it's a pain to have to take a plate off with an eyepiece holder on it to give a little tweak, put it back on, and see if you went the right way or not... and to keep having to do that! Man, if you could tweak the adjustments- then look to see the immediate effect, it'd be another whole ballgame!

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2, is done already, design is completed , easy access now from outside while you look with 2 eyes :-), great improvement for anybody.

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If this thing comes in at under $3000, under 16 lbs, and isn't champagne or silver, I'm on for sure at end of the year. Bonus would be a full or close to full aperture with no obstruction at 90°, but so many on the binocular forum have expressed liking their current 45° models, that I would settle for a quality 45° model with no problem also.

Thankfully enough US customers have expressed that buying from APM is really no problem as their are at least two options for US service. Thanks again!

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If this thing comes in at under $3000, under 16 lbs, and isn't champagne or silver, I'm on for sure at end of the year.

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$3,000.00 is a lot of money...
I'd probably be in at a $2000.00 ceiling for a 45 degree version.
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Hi, Markus,

You're making it very difficult for me. I've been on the fence between your 100mm ED and the Garrett 100mm. Now I learn about your exciting new 100mm APO coming (near end of this year?).

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That's part of the game: first I wanted to get the "simple" 100mm bino, the the ED 100mm came out, the there was this 6 inch bino (over 40 pounds !!!), could not make my mind and now I am glad because the real apo 100mm bino is on its way. Where will it stop?
Any apo projects to go the same way for the 6 inch bino?

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they have a good controle on small 100 mm versions, but my experiece with 150 mm is mixed. But never say no :-)

you can get my Fuji 25 x150-45° ED, then I ask Binoptic to build me a 150 mm APO BINO WITH LZOS OPTICS.

this week our first 10" LZOS Apo Bino should see first light, the owner has left his 8" Apo Bino for sale , maybe you want ? Now he start dreaming about a 12" LZOS Bino , just like my customer in Peking , who ordered already 50% = 1 OTA 12" APO.

So, you see you have some great choices at the moment, speak with your wallet :-)

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I could speak to my wallet, but not sure it will answer my questions?
10" apo bino: OMG, what kind of mount will bear that one?
The Fuji is 45°, not sure that I'll be happy with that one, and AFAIK, you can't change eyepieces.
Well, as you know my current needs for portability, these beauties are not for me now.
Scope manufacturer/vendor: what a beautiful job!
Some pics for 10 inch apo bino first light to come?
Greetings.

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Hi Rod

if you want to spend $ 3,000 I am pretty shure we can drop in some very nice eyepiece sets , a mount, a tripod and UHC filters.
drop me a email to anfrage@apm-telescopes.de, so I have your contact datas.

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I have the optical layout and beams on my computer and yes the 90° is fully illuminated

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Excellent! Started my savings already. between what I can do now, two bonuses by mid december, I'll be ready. Hopefully a Christmas present for myself.

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One (maybe the only) advantage of being old is I have discretionary $$ for these toys. What with taking care of my middle-aged son due to the recession (he only works part time), and no longer running around with women, boy does that ever save big bucks (been there, done that), and having a good pension from working 39 years in my profession, I can afford this - without having to "ask the boss" (as some of you younger ones refer to your wives). That phrase always amuses me. Never used it myself.

Regards, Rod

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Excellent! Started my savings already. between what I can do now, two bonuses by mid december, I'll be ready. Hopefully a Christmas present for myself.

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One (maybe the only) advantage of being old is I have discretionary $$ for these toys. What with taking care of my middle-aged son due to the recession (he only works part time), and no longer running around with women, boy does that ever save big bucks (been there, done that), and having a good pension from working 39 years in my profession, I can afford this - without having to "ask the boss" (as some of you younger ones refer to your wives). That phrase always amuses me. Never used it myself.

Regards, Rod

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I'll have to duly concede to you being #2 then Rod. You have the funds already.

I think Markus might have a line forming as soon as one of us adopts the early buy in and reports back with favorable experiences.

No Mrs. dragonnoggin to have to check with here. Have to buy up before that ever changes.

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I'll have to duly concede to you being #2 then Rod. You have the funds already.

I think Markus might have a line forming as soon as one of us adopts the early buy in and reports back with favorable experiences.

No Mrs. dragonnoggin to have to check with here. Have to buy up before that ever changes.

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No, Markus will have to assure me (us) that it works to specs as advertised. I'm not gonna play the beta testing game.

Yup, Von, love is wonderful. I've tried it a number of times myself. But there's nothing like the freedom of one's own $$. But then adult marriages typically conduct their finances that way, especially with both partners working and not too dissimilar in salaries, as many professional couples experience. During my marriages , we each kept our own accounts, and just shared mutual bills: mortgages, rents, food, utilities, etc. No woman I was ever with would imagine having to come to me for permission to buy whatever she wanted.

Ok, way off topic - but interesting, no?

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the 10" is going on side of a 32" R.C. :-)

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I start understanding where it will end up: one day, Binoptic will achieve an bino with 2 APM/LZOS 510mm apos, right?

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So, you see you have some great choices at the moment, speak with your wallet :-)

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Hi Rod

to make it very clear :

we do NOT take deposits !!!

we ask for payment from buyers , after the binoculars are in my hand and after I have tested them and after they are ready for shipping. Then buyers pay and we ship

so there will be no betatesters

have a great weekend

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Thanks, Markus. Good to know. I didn't mean to impugn your professional integrity (in case you got offended by my last post), just trying as a customer to get the best quality product right out of the box.

Speaking of box , will there be extra sturdy shipping packaging for these APOs more than your normal shipping, considering their extra expense? Along these lines, will these APOs be more sensitive to collimation issues, i.e., can be more easily knocked out of alignment that non APOs? Maybe not, but just wondering. I know you said easy user collimation will be built in, which is great. Would these adjustments be truly simple even for someone who has never done anything like this before?

Will there be an American vendor/servicer for these new APOs?

Sorry for all these questions. I'm a detail person (wrote technical manuals for field meteorologists to use as part of my job), so just trying to get as much info as possible for this potential major purchase, especially since it'll be shipped from overseas.

Regards, Rod

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the actual forecast for release of this new Apo Binocular is around end of the year 2012

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