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New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year.
      #4809471 - 09/15/11 03:14 PM

THE NEW LX80 MULTI-MOUNT EASILY TRANSITIONS BETWEEN GERMAN EQUATORIAL, ALT-AZ AND DUAL OTA CONFIGURATIONS TO HANDLE ALL YOUR ASTRONOMICAL NEEDS.

Now you no longer have to make the difficult decision between the ease of setup and operation of an altazimuth mount or the versatility and long duration imaging capability of a German Equatorial Mount. Meade's new LX80 is the only mount that gives you both plus one more - three computerized GoTo mounts for the price of one.

The mounts start at $799 with complete scopes starting at $1199.

THE NEW LX800™ WITH STARLOCK™. DESIGNED FROM THE GROUND UP TO BE THE IDEAL ASTRO-IMAGING PLATFORM.

Meade Instruments introduces the latest in a long line of advanced astronomical products - the LX800™. Using revolutionary new technology, every aspect of this system has been designed to deliver the new standard in astrophotographic and visual performance.

FASTER, SHARPER OPTICAL SYSTEM
Meade's all NEW optical system completes the LX800 system:

• Fast, f/8 Advance Coma-Free® optical system available in 10", 12" and 14" apertures.

• Unique internal Crayford-style, ZERO image-shift focusing system with a two-speed 7:1 control. This focusing system rigidly holds the primary mirror and eliminates the need for a mirror lock.

• Optional large-format, three-element f/5 focal reducer/field flattener. This delivers even wider fields, faster exposures and a photographically flat field even with larger sensors.

• Also available: Series 6000 3 element air-space apochromatic refractor (Optional field flattener available).

PRECISION MACHINED, SOLID GERMAN EQUATORIAL MOUNT

Constructed of machined stainless steel and aircraft grade 6061-T6 aluminum, the LX800 mount presents a rock-solid platform:

• Supports 90 pounds of instruments. That's not including the counterweights.

• Precision roller bearings are employed on both RA and DEC axis.

• Robust 0.68" diameter brass worm and a 5.8" diameter, 225 tooth aluminum gears.

• Utilizes a 1.75" stainless steel threaded counterweight shaft.

• Fully computerized GoTo German Equatorial Mount with GPS and 144,000-object database.

• All-new super-stable tripod.

STARLOCK - FULL-TIME AUTOMATIC GUIDING

The LX800 is the first FULL-TIME AUTOMATIC GUIDING SYSTEM on the market incorporating Meade's all new StarLock™ technology:

• A 80mm f/5 optic operating in tandem with a super wide-angle lens creates a two camera system that automatically finds your target in high precision.

• Guides to an incredible accuracy of one arc second and can lock on stars as dim as 11th magnitude. Focusing the StarLock optics is not required nor is there a need to select a guide star.

• Eliminates the need for a computer or separate guide scope.

• Automatically programs periodic error correction, corrects for errors down to virtually zero and then guides.

• Provides computer-assisted polar alignment using drift method for extreme precision.

Pricing for the mount is $5999 and complete scopes start at $7999

We will have more info as it becomes available.

Clear Skies,

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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: Astronomics]
      #4809554 - 09/15/11 04:06 PM

Meade Instrument Corp
Irvine, California
September 15, 2011

Meade will be proudly displaying and featuring the all NEW LX800 and LX80 Telescope Systems at PATS 2011, Saturday and Sunday September 17th and 18th, Pasadena Convention Center, Pasadena California. This will be the first showing of the newest addition to our product line.

For more information about the PATS Show go to: http://www.rtmcastronomyexpo.org/PATS.htm

Meade LX80:


Meade LX800:

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Edited by Meade Instr. (09/15/11 04:12 PM)


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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: Meade Instr.]
      #4809571 - 09/15/11 04:21 PM

Nice!

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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: Jim7728]
      #4809801 - 09/15/11 07:36 PM

Nice looking mounts!

Whats the weight capacity on the LX80?


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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: zjc26138]
      #4809807 - 09/15/11 07:40 PM

The LX80 carries a total payload of up to 40 pounds in EQ/Alt-Az modes and 75 pounds in dual OTA modes.

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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: gbb]
      #4809826 - 09/15/11 07:53 PM

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The LX80 carries a total payload of up to 40 pounds in EQ/Alt-Az modes and 75 pounds in dual OTA modes.




Impressive. Interesting. Intriguing...

HOWEVER...this one has to be right...ala the LX200 Classic and LX90 introductions. Too many people still remember the RCX.


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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: rmollise]
      #4809844 - 09/15/11 08:07 PM

Wow! Is this the start of a new Meade - or it is too little too late with all the other options now available? Hoping for the former as my CAT is 10 years young this year...

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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: tjones104490]
      #4809938 - 09/15/11 09:14 PM

Cool. This may explain the end of the LXD75. Congratultions to Meade for bringing a new product to the market!

Edited by jgraham (09/15/11 09:16 PM)


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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: jgraham]
      #4809975 - 09/15/11 09:34 PM

Do you know if the new optically designed f/8 scopes will be available separately or only with a mount?

Bill


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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: Bill Barlow]
      #4809981 - 09/15/11 09:37 PM

New product release shows only the scopes on a mount at present. Since the complete scopes themselves will not be available until November, I would suspect 1st quarter of next year at the earliest for OTAs alone, since they would have to fill the complete scope pipeline first.

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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: frebie]
      #4810050 - 09/15/11 10:18 PM

A wireless hand control and it would be the cats meow.

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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: germana1]
      #4810139 - 09/15/11 11:26 PM

I might be selling an lxd 75 soon. I want the lx 80.

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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: hfjacinto]
      #4810162 - 09/15/11 11:47 PM

Thanks for the detailed specs on the LX800.

Can you provide similar specs for the LX80?
e.g., weight of the EQ head for example?
It will be interesting to see if it can be a lighter alternative to the Atlas/ EQ6, with the same carrying capacity . . .. maybe competitive with the iEQ45 in that regard.

I'll also wonder how quiet it is - quiet like a Skywatcher, or noisy like a Celestron?


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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: dvb]
      #4810261 - 09/16/11 01:12 AM

Sweet!!!!

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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: Meade Instr.]
      #4810448 - 09/16/11 05:45 AM

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Meade Instrument Corp
Irvine, California
September 15, 2011

Meade will be proudly displaying and featuring the all NEW LX800 and LX80 Telescope Systems at PATS 2011, Saturday and Sunday September 17th and 18th, Pasadena Convention Center, Pasadena California. This will be the first showing of the newest addition to our product line.

For more information about the PATS Show go to: http://www.rtmcastronomyexpo.org/PATS.htm

Meade LX800:

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How soon before we hear of EMEA launches - for us poor souls over in the UK?

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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: skybsd]
      #4810573 - 09/16/11 08:46 AM

Quote:

Meade will be proudly displaying and featuring the all NEW LX800 and LX80 Telescope Systems at PATS 2011, Saturday and Sunday September 17th and 18th, Pasadena Convention Center, Pasadena California. This will be the first showing of the newest addition to our product line.

Meade LX800:

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This is a very nice looking design...very Transformer-ish. Hope it works as well as it looks.


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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: ukcanuck]
      #4810638 - 09/16/11 09:29 AM

Very sleek looking designs! Reviews from the PATS show next week will be interesting to say the least!

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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: REC]
      #4810697 - 09/16/11 10:10 AM

Mike, Fred,

When are the LX80 mounts by themselves available? I want one.


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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: hfjacinto]
      #4810703 - 09/16/11 10:16 AM

They are hoping for November as well.

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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: Astronomics]
      #4810729 - 09/16/11 10:28 AM

Do you have any specs on the f/8 OTA's yet, namely what size the secondary mirror obstruction will be? Since they are an f/8 scope optimised for imaging, would the CO be similar to the AT RC'c CO around 40-45%? I assume that when the OTA's are offered seperately, they will probably cost more than the current f/10 scopes? Thanks..

Bill


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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: Bill Barlow]
      #4810732 - 09/16/11 10:29 AM

Unfortunately what we have posted is all the info we have at the moment.

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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: Astronomics]
      #4810763 - 09/16/11 10:47 AM

Well now .... for the LX800, that's the most useless spot to store the handcontroller I've ever seen on any scope. However, it does work well if I'm going to spend all my time observing Polaris! What ever happened to the engineering creed: "Form follows Function." C'mon Meade ... wake up!

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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: Bill Barlow]
      #4810857 - 09/16/11 11:48 AM

Quote:

Do you have any specs on the f/8 OTA's yet, namely what size the secondary mirror obstruction will be? Since they are an f/8 scope optimised for imaging, would the CO be similar to the AT RC'c CO around 40-45%? I assume that when the OTA's are offered seperately, they will probably cost more than the current f/10 scopes? Thanks..

Bill




According to preliminary specs, the secondary obstruction of the 10" is approximately 4.05" in diameter (20.95% by area). On the 12" it is approximately 4.36" in diameter (16.86% by area). The 14" is TBD. These specs are preliminary and should be not taken as gospel, as preliminary specs are always subject to change.

No pricing or part numbers on OTAs yet. I would think they would be further downstream than the estimated November shipping date on the scopes, as Meade would probably want to fill the pipeline with complete scopes before breaking out the OTAs separately.


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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: dvb]
      #4810861 - 09/16/11 11:50 AM

Quote:

Thanks for the detailed specs on the LX800.

Can you provide similar specs for the LX80?
e.g., weight of the EQ head for example?
It will be interesting to see if it can be a lighter alternative to the Atlas/ EQ6, with the same carrying capacity . . .. maybe competitive with the iEQ45 in that regard.

I'll also wonder how quiet it is - quiet like a Skywatcher, or noisy like a Celestron?




Mount head weighs 35 pounds. Tripod is 31.5 pounds. I'll get more details up over the weekend. We'll know how loud it is when they start shipping in November.


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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: frebie]
      #4810911 - 09/16/11 12:20 PM

Very interesting. I look forward to seeing some field reports of the LX800 mounts.

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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: *skyguy*]
      #4810992 - 09/16/11 01:00 PM

Quote:

Well now .... for the LX800, that's the most useless spot to store the handcontroller I've ever seen on any scope. However, it does work well if I'm going to spend all my time observing Polaris! What ever happened to the engineering creed: "Form follows Function." C'mon Meade ... wake up!


I don't see any problem with the location.

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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: ukcanuck]
      #4811014 - 09/16/11 01:09 PM

In its layout the new equatorial mount looks like a copy of a Astro-Physics Mach 1.0 with a few stylistic Transformer elements added. The drive boxes in particular look identical.

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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: LLEEGE]
      #4811054 - 09/16/11 01:29 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Well now .... for the LX800, that's the most useless spot to store the handcontroller I've ever seen on any scope. However, it does work well if I'm going to spend all my time observing Polaris! What ever happened to the engineering creed: "Form follows Function." C'mon Meade ... wake up!


I don't see any problem with the location.



It's fine if you're spending a lot of time observing towards Polaris ... most folks will be spending more time standing on the other side of the mount. With the HC in this storage position you'll be spending a lot of the time reaching around the mount.

The other concern I have (which is shared on many other mounts) is the number of possible cable snag areas. The folks that seem to understand this are Software Bisque (Paramount).

Looks like there are also lots of positives, can't wait to see some real reviews. Now how about another mount in between these two? We need more choices in the 60lb $2500-4000 range.


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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: mclewis1]
      #4811252 - 09/16/11 03:38 PM

That LX800 looks really nice! I like how the counter shaft has threads. Such a great idea except it forces you to use their counter weights that are threaded.

I'll have to go to pats this weekend and see it in person.


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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: Bill Barlow]
      #4811262 - 09/16/11 03:46 PM

I hope the quality control improves as well.

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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: spaceboy62]
      #4811294 - 09/16/11 04:13 PM

Any word on this part: Series 6000 3 element air-space apochromatic refractor ? Is Meade also going into the 6" APO market by chance?

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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: AntarcticDave]
      #4811311 - 09/16/11 04:24 PM

They have the 80, 115, and 130. No news on anything larger.

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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: Astronomics]
      #4811381 - 09/16/11 05:02 PM

D-A-W-G-G-O-N-E!! It looks like Meade has really done a nice job in designing the LX80. All of a sudden, this rig seems to be much easier to handle than the LX90 and certainly the LX200. I had pretty much written off Meade as the vendor of a second telescope. Now I'll definitely be rethinking that....

It looks like I could mount my ES AR127 achro (about 15 lbm or so) on one side and a nice SCT on the other. What kind of Meade SCTs will be offered as part of an LX80 rig - and in what sizes? Thanks.


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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: Mark Costello]
      #4811384 - 09/16/11 05:04 PM

6, 8, and 10" SC OTAs.

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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: mclewis1]
      #4811449 - 09/16/11 05:48 PM

Quote:


It's fine if you're spending a lot of time observing towards Polaris ... most folks will be spending more time standing on the other side of the mount. With the HC in this storage position you'll be spending a lot of the time reaching around the mount.


I guess it depends on what side of the meridian you are observing. I hang my keypad on the NE side of the mount. Although, I don't do much slewing around typically. I'll pick a target, slew and start a 3,4, 5 hour imaging session. Unless I need to do a meridian flip, I don't touch the keypad anymore.

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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: Astronomics]
      #4811491 - 09/16/11 06:15 PM

And as an Ioptron fan, which units will have GPS?
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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: LLEEGE]
      #4811504 - 09/16/11 06:21 PM

Luke,

Yes good point, it will depend more on how you use the HC more than anything else. It would be tough to imagine a design that satisfies everyone.


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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: mclewis1]
      #4812322 - 09/17/11 08:52 AM

Is there anybody covering PATS "live" on the internet so we can see real photos and hands on of these mounts?

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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: frebie]
      #4812471 - 09/17/11 10:33 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Do you have any specs on the f/8 OTA's yet, namely what size the secondary mirror obstruction will be? Since they are an f/8 scope optimised for imaging, would the CO be similar to the AT RC'c CO around 40-45%? I assume that when the OTA's are offered seperately, they will probably cost more than the current f/10 scopes? Thanks..

Bill




According to preliminary specs, the secondary obstruction of the 10" is approximately 4.05" in diameter (20.95% by area). On the 12" it is approximately 4.36" in diameter (16.86% by area). The 14" is TBD. These specs are preliminary and should be not taken as gospel, as preliminary specs are always subject to change.

No pricing or part numbers on OTAs yet. I would think they would be further downstream than the estimated November shipping date on the scopes, as Meade would probably want to fill the pipeline with complete scopes before breaking out the OTAs separately.




From the photo a saw the CO is at least 40%. Additionally, given the math it would have to be. It's certainly not 18-20%.

Joe


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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: jmiele]
      #4812597 - 09/17/11 11:36 AM

Joe,
It appears you've mixed the proverbial Apples and Oranges. One figure is the CO as a % of Diameter and the other % of Area. Both numbers are very different as you can see. For example: a 10" with a CO of 40% by width would be the same as saying a CO of 16% by area. I believe this is an item a number of folks get confused or "tricked" by. Has about the same effect as mixing up inches and centimeters. Not a big deal......unless you happen to be the guy that programmed the probe and a made an oop's using the wrong units. Crash landing you say! Yeah, that one hurt. But then I'm straying way off topic.

I don't know about anyone else, but I'm finding it hard to believe the LX80 is so cheap given the specs. I guess we really need someone to get their hands on one and report on its worthiness. Still very interested though.


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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: jmiele]
      #4812600 - 09/17/11 11:38 AM

Quote:

From the photo a saw the CO is at least 40%. Additionally, given the math it would have to be. It's certainly not 18-20%.




The secondary obstruction of the 10" is 4.05" in diameter, or 40.5% by diameter. The obstruction of the 10" by area is therefore 20.95% (the figure Meade gives). The obstruction of the 12" is 4.36" by diameter, or 36.3%. By area it is 16.86% (the figure Meade gives).

By comparison, the diameter of the obstruction of the Celestron 11" EdgeHD optical tube is 3.75", or 34% by dimeter and 11.6% by area.

Meade's figures are correct. They simply specified the obstruction only as a percentage of the area in their preliminary specs, rather than give the obstruction by both diameter and area.


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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: frebie]
      #4812963 - 09/17/11 03:10 PM

Not that color matters, but is the LX-80 and LX-800 both the dark Meade Blue ?, or is it just the image/lighting that makes the LX-80 look more like its a lighter metallic blue color.
Will the LX-80 accept Losmandy D style plates ?
Great! looking mounts..

Edited by Dave M (09/17/11 03:26 PM)


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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: WizWoz]
      #4813046 - 09/17/11 04:11 PM

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Joe,
It appears you've mixed the proverbial Apples and Oranges. One figure is the CO as a % of Diameter and the other % of Area. Both numbers are very different as you can see. For example: a 10" with a CO of 40% by width would be the same as saying a CO of 16% by area. I believe this is an item a number of folks get confused or "tricked" by. Has about the same effect as mixing up inches and centimeters. Not a big deal......




But, remember that the DIAMETER of the CO vs. the PRIMARY APERTURE produces a different effect than the AREA comparison.

% of diameter relates to resolution/contrast and % of surface area relates to light gathering. The two measurements produce completely different effects and should not be used individually or interchangeably to describe the overall performance of an optical system.

The greatest area of concern for most buyers/observers seems to be loss of contrast with larger (by diameter - D vs. d) CO's.
I've been a serious planetary observer for more than 30 years and, yes, I can see a difference in contrast between a small (or no) CO vs. a larger one when observing faint, delicate detail on Mars, Jupiter and Saturn. But I honestly doubt that a more casual observer would even notice it.

***Nowadays I do 90% of my observing with the Mallincam anyway, which renders the CO/contrast loss question moot, since I can adjust the contrast on my video monitor!
If you're planning on imaging vs. visual observing, the size of the CO is also of little concern since you'll be post-processing your images anyway.
(Finally - the largest observatory scopes in the world sometimes have CO's of 50% (!) of diameter....they still seem to work rather well).

For visual observers, it's important to remember than ANY contrast loss is subject to MTF (modulation transfer function) considerations and what this means in real-life is that brighter, more-contrasty objects will be LEAST affected by the central obstruction. The moon, Jupiter's main belts, Saturn's Cassini division and ring shadow and even Mars' more obvious markings are simply not affected to any obvious extent!

My belief is that most of the "contrast loss" complaints re: SCT's are, in reality, image defects caused by collimation errors.
Meade's ACF scopes have vastly improved secondary mechanics. My 10" arrived PERFECTLY collimated and, nearly two years later, I've never had to touch it! (Though I DO check it every time I take it out).
This was certainly NOT the case with earlier Meades (and Celestrons) and most of the ones I see at star parties are simply not collimated. SCT's have taken a big 'hit' for poor images that are, actually, the fault of the scope's owner...not the scope itself.

I'll have my 10" Meade ACF set up with a Mallincam at Chiefland next month. Please feel free to stop by and see for yourself what can be done.
(And, hopefully soon, I plan to have a new 12" or 14" f/8 ACF LX800!).

Mike Harvey


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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: *skyguy*]
      #4816270 - 09/19/11 01:31 PM

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Well now .... for the LX800, that's the most useless spot to store the handcontroller I've ever seen on any scope. However, it does work well if I'm going to spend all my time observing Polaris! What ever happened to the engineering creed: "Form follows Function." C'mon Meade ... wake up!




You just WON the FIRST PRIZE for being the first to $&#^%#%$$^ about a brand NEW Meade product!!!

Personally I don't see anything wrong with the Hand Paddle location! To boot, looking at the photo...I wonder if it's the wireless version!!?? That'd be like real COOL!


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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: Dave M]
      #4816279 - 09/19/11 01:39 PM

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Will the LX-80 accept Losmandy D style plates?




The two dovetails supplied (one permanent on the top of the head for German equatorial and single OTA altazimuth use; one removable for the end of the counterweight shaft for dual OTA altazimuth use) are for Vixen-style dovetails only. No plans that I know of as of now for Losmandy D-plates,


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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: frebie]
      #4816370 - 09/19/11 02:24 PM

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Quote:

Will the LX-80 accept Losmandy D style plates?




The two dovetails supplied (one permanent on the top of the head for German equatorial and single OTA altazimuth use; one removable for the end of the counterweight shaft for dual OTA altazimuth use) are for Vixen-style dovetails only. No plans that I know of as of now for Losmandy D-plates,




Figures!, Thanks for the reply..


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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: Dave M]
      #4816464 - 09/19/11 03:24 PM

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Quote:

Quote:

Will the LX-80 accept Losmandy D style plates?




The two dovetails supplied (one permanent on the top of the head for German equatorial and single OTA altazimuth use; one removable for the end of the counterweight shaft for dual OTA altazimuth use) are for Vixen-style dovetails only. No plans that I know of as of now for Losmandy D-plates,




Figures!, Thanks for the reply..



"Permanent" meaning welded on or is there actually a bolt that would allow you to remove the plate and replace with a 3rd party plate?


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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: dkb]
      #4816606 - 09/19/11 04:44 PM

Can't tell from the images, and they haven't shipped any mounts yet to see for myself, but I'd be shocked if they welded it on. It would make much more sense to manufacture the dovetails separately and bolt them onto the top of the mount and the end of the counterweight shaft rather than go to the expense of two different manufacturing procedures to attach identical parts to two ends of a single shaft.

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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: frebie]
      #4817641 - 09/20/11 08:39 AM

The Meade site now has the new mounts listed. No mention of the uncorrected PE. Hmm.

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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: Mike Harvey]
      #4824039 - 09/23/11 05:15 PM

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My belief is that most of the "contrast loss" complaints re: SCT's are, in reality, image defects caused by collimation errors.
Meade's ACF scopes have vastly improved secondary mechanics. My 10" arrived PERFECTLY collimated and, nearly two years later, I've never had to touch it! (Though I DO check it every time I take it out).
This was certainly NOT the case with earlier Meades (and Celestrons) and most of the ones I see at star parties are simply not collimated. SCT's have taken a big 'hit' for poor images that are, actually, the fault of the scope's owner...not the scope itself.
Mike Harvey





Interesting discussion - Ive been resisting the urge to get into Malin-Camming. I really need to try this.

I've found, first hand, after reviewing bench test results that much of the issues with commercially available Meade and Celestron offerings are related to extremely rough surfaces on the primary mirror and corrector plate. While poor collimation contributes to poor images, it will not induce abberations, except for coma, that are not already present. A miscollimated scope will still have a a sweet spot, its just not going to be in the middle of the FOV.

Collimation is important each and every time out, however, it will not make up for the machine-polishing artifacts that remain in the primary and corrector plate in most (all?) SCT's. At least the ones I have personally owned, viewed through and tested.


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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: peleuba]
      #4834285 - 09/29/11 01:56 PM

FYI.....Meade just broke new ads on both new scopes and mounts in the November issue of Astronomy magazine.

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      #4834318 - 09/29/11 02:13 PM

November S&T too.

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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: Astronomics]
      #4836694 - 09/30/11 08:33 PM

The LX80 looks interesting.

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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: rmollise]
      #4837873 - 10/01/11 04:26 PM

I am intrigued and skeptical at the same time. I personally might appreciate the LX80, it might fit my needs.
But I look at the connection between the legs and the base and ... am I the only one who finds that ridiculous?
I am not even commenting the same issue on the LX800.


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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: peleuba]
      #4839114 - 10/02/11 11:54 AM

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I've found, first hand, after reviewing bench test results that much of the issues with commercially available Meade and Celestron offerings are related to extremely rough surfaces on the primary mirror and corrector plate.




Whose bench test results? Yours? What is "extremely rough"? I have most assuredly not seen this in current Meade and Celestron optics.

If, by "collimation is important each and every time" you mean the collimation has to be adjusted before every observing run, the telescope has not been properly collimated.


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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: Astronomics]
      #4843562 - 10/04/11 01:34 PM

On the subject of COs I've been told larger ones make a scope more seeing sensitive. My IM715 at 25% deals with less than optimal conditions much better than my C9.25 at 36%. To me it looks like some of this is due to the extra light of the SCT blurring the image in fair-poor conditions but I CO size may also be a factor. On the subject of the mounts if the LX80 pans out as advertised I might get one for my C9.25 which is now on a Giro. I could fund part of it by selling my CG5GT and WO EZ. My IM715 at present on the EZ would go on the Giro. I see the LX800 has a LS type alignment routine. If Meade had a similar setup on the LX80 it would be ideal for me. David

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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: dscarpa]
      #4854553 - 10/10/11 07:16 PM

Now let me get this right. The LX800 specs say" High Precision Guiding +/- 1 arcsecond RMS (with good seeing)" on this intergrated package.
That would be a godsend to astroimagers, like me that struggle to get round star images after about a 20 minute exposure.

Has anybody had a chance to try this out with the LX800?

Ed

Edited by Ed J (10/10/11 07:19 PM)


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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: Ed J]
      #4855391 - 10/11/11 09:28 AM

No. They are not shipping yet.

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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: LLEEGE]
      #4872296 - 10/21/11 09:39 AM

Looks good, looks very good. The price looks excellent for the specs and hopefully the electronics will be robust from day one.

But there is one worrying detail they have managed to slip in there if you are an imager. And that is the ST4 port is only available with the optional module.......alarm bells ringing loudly. Not a re-run of the #909 accessory port module. An ST4 port should be integrated part of the mount in this day and age, especially a mount like this. And as Meade have a habit of discontinuing there optional accessories long before the main product finishes its life cycle, that is a worry.

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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: Rustie]
      #4872327 - 10/21/11 10:02 AM

100% agree.

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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: LLEEGE]
      #4894839 - 11/02/11 10:39 PM

"Includes two RS-232 serial interface ports (USB Adapter available separately). An optional plug-in Autoguider port is also available and sold separately."

Seriously.. serial ports only come a very few modern laptops..


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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: w9ray]
      #4971878 - 12/18/11 12:18 AM

Any news?

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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: DerekTX]
      #4974739 - 12/19/11 06:31 PM

The news from my location here in Texas is that I am still waiting to buy my LX-80

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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: Lane]
      #4976023 - 12/20/11 01:25 PM

Both LX80s and LX800s are on track for shipping starting in January, per a conversation with Meade this morning.

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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: frebie]
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I don't think that January ship date is working out to well.

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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: sphelps]
      #5048354 - 01/31/12 04:42 PM

I checked with Highpoint Scientific and they have no idea when the LX80 will appear...

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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: Ricky]
      #5048659 - 01/31/12 07:45 PM

Shipping date at Hayneedle keeps going back....back....back! Now showing Feb. 23.

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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: herrointment]
      #5106250 - 03/05/12 10:37 AM

I look 4 posts up at Frebie's post and then I look at my calendar. What the heck happened in the last 3 months over at Meade?

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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: Whichwayisnorth]
      #5107585 - 03/05/12 11:56 PM

I would rather have the bugs knocked out before they ship then after they get into the consumer's hands. Good things come to those who wait.

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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: Astronomics]
      #5132303 - 03/20/12 01:43 PM

I have to decide what 8" telescope to buy in a couple of week.
So far, I think the CPC800 is the one, but this meade LX80 makes me think. Any news when it's going to be on the market?


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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: fernando jorge]
      #5160297 - 04/07/12 08:18 AM

I just cancelled my order for the LX80. I placed my order back in October 2011. I was just told that it still will be "another 5-6 weeks or so" I appreciate that Meade wants the mount to be high quality, but why advertise and take orders for it when you are not even close to being able to ship the mount. Very disappointing, I think they are making a big mistake.

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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: WalterG]
      #5181022 - 04/19/12 11:04 PM

I've also given up on this mount. I ordered in early January foolishly believing that Meade would want to be shipping in time for improving spring weather. It's spring, the weather is getting nice, I cancelled the LX80 order and bought a CGEM. The silence from Meade is deafening.

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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: slkret123]
      #5181079 - 04/19/12 11:51 PM

They started shipping the 800 mounts, I expect the 80s to follow in the near future.

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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this year. new [Re: slkret123]
      #5181123 - 04/20/12 12:40 AM

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I've also given up on this mount. I ordered in early January foolishly believing that Meade would want to be shipping in time for improving spring weather. It's spring, the weather is getting nice, I cancelled the LX80 order and bought a CGEM. The silence from Meade is deafening.

Steve




While the extra wait time is unfortunate I wouldn't say they've been silent about the mounts. Meade has posted quite a few times on their facebook page with updates from the LX800 beta testing. They may not have included ship dates but I can appreciate them trying to keep their customers in the loop.


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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this ye new [Re: Astronomics]
      #5281068 - 06/20/12 05:28 PM

I just picked up my Meade LX80 Mount. I have a Meade 102ed/apo 920mm f/9. This mount is solid. I havent used it yet but will. I will be eventually buying a 12" meade or 11" celestron ota. use it as a double ota mount and reflect and refract. lol. I will let you know what i think after a few clear skies.

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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this ye new [Re: jpmoneystar]
      #5281218 - 06/20/12 07:24 PM

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I just picked up my Meade LX80 Mount. I have a Meade 102ed/apo 920mm f/9. This mount is solid. I havent used it yet but will. I will be eventually buying a 12" meade or 11" celestron ota. use it as a double ota mount and reflect and refract. lol. I will let you know what i think after a few clear skies.




Glad to see some more people getting these now

You should post some pictures/impressions of it in the mount forum.


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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this ye new [Re: Griffin!]
      #5281343 - 06/20/12 09:09 PM

We actually have two with 8" OTAS in stock at the moment.

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Re: New Meade LX80 and LX800 scopes coming this ye new [Re: Astronomics]
      #5384484 - 08/24/12 12:21 PM

Is it possible to buy just the OTA?

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