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SteveRosenow
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Re: BackyardNIKON, ask me anything! new [Re: JoseBorrero]
      #6339546 - 01/27/14 08:09 PM

I own a D5100 and will gladly beta test.

What cords are needed?

I may need a 50-foot run of whatever is needed, as my telescope is outdoors. >_<


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guyroch
Vendor (BackyardEOS)
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Reged: 01/22/08

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Re: BackyardNIKON, ask me anything! new [Re: SteveRosenow]
      #6339720 - 01/27/14 09:35 PM

Quote:

I own a D5100 and will gladly beta test.

What cords are needed?

I may need a 50-foot run of whatever is needed, as my telescope is outdoors. >_<




The D5100 does not support BULB over USB so you will need both a USB cable for camera control and a serial cable for BULB.

Thank you

Guylain


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sage


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Loc: Houston, Texas, USA
Re: BackyardNIKON, ask me anything! new [Re: JoseBorrero]
      #6339970 - 01/27/14 11:52 PM

Q1:How will you support long (>30second) exposures for Nikon's that don't support bulb over USB? How about mirror up mode?

Q2:Any chance that your current BYEOS customers will get a discount on BYNikon pricing?


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guyroch
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Re: BackyardNIKON, ask me anything! new [Re: end]
      #6340391 - 01/28/14 08:41 AM

Quote:

Q1:How will you support long (>30second) exposures for Nikon's that don't support bulb over USB? How about mirror up mode?

Q2:Any chance that your current BYEOS customers will get a discount on BYNikon pricing?




A1: With a serial cable, there is no other way. This is the same for older Canon cameras. The jury is still out on mirror lock for BackyardNIKON. I have not toyed with it just yet.

A2: Yes, most likely, but I don't know how much of a discount yet. Probably between 15% to 30% off... but I won't commit just yet.

Regards,

Guylain


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James_826
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Re: BackyardNIKON, ask me anything! new [Re: Seanem44]
      #6340487 - 01/28/14 09:31 AM

Would the D300 be supported?

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guyroch
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Re: BackyardNIKON, ask me anything! new [Re: James_826]
      #6340695 - 01/28/14 11:09 AM

Quote:

Would the D300 be supported?




The D300 does have an SDK so it should work.

Guylain


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Re: BackyardNIKON, ask me anything! new [Re: guyroch]
      #6340932 - 01/28/14 12:47 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Q1:How will you support long (>30second) exposures for Nikon's that don't support bulb over USB? How about mirror up mode?




A1: With a serial cable, there is no other way. This is the same for older Canon cameras. The jury is still out on mirror lock for BackyardNIKON. I have not toyed with it just yet.




Thanks. Which serial cable would you recommend?


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guyroch
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Re: BackyardNIKON, ask me anything! new [Re: end]
      #6341040 - 01/28/14 01:38 PM

Well, this is where it gets tricky with Nikon.

Most cable vendors will use infrared instead of a hard wired cable endt-to-end. The issue with infrared is that you need the infrared beam to be pointed at the camera all night long, a bit of a nuisance.

Shoestring Astronomy has a Nikon cable that will fit most Nikon with their DSUSB unit. I'm about to purchase one myself for testing.

Hope this helps,

Guylain


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Re: BackyardNIKON, ask me anything! new [Re: guyroch]
      #6341078 - 01/28/14 01:54 PM

I have considered the shoestring option in the past. I figure I have waited this long, I can wait a bit longer. After you have released BackYardNikon I'll buy whatever serial cable solution you feel works best.

Here is another question. I don't know how common an issue this will be, but I have both a Canon and Nikon and ideally I'd like to be able to take pictures with both simultaneously. Do you expect that both BackYard options will be able to work together?


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guyroch
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Re: BackyardNIKON, ask me anything! new [Re: end]
      #6341158 - 01/28/14 02:28 PM

Quote:

Here is another question. I don't know how common an issue this will be, but I have both a Canon and Nikon and ideally I'd like to be able to take pictures with both simultaneously. Do you expect that both BackYard options will be able to work together?




Depends what you mean by "work together"?

Guylain


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Re: BackyardNIKON, ask me anything! new [Re: guyroch]
      #6341640 - 01/28/14 06:50 PM

I just mean, do you expect that I could have both programs running on one computer simultaneously and collecting data at the same time. For example what I'd like to do is image with my C11 and AT65EDQ at the same time so I can have both a wide field and high magnification image of the same target at the same time. They don't need to talk with one another but they would need to stay out of one another's way.

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guyroch
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Re: BackyardNIKON, ask me anything! new [Re: end]
      #6341735 - 01/28/14 07:39 PM

Quote:

I just mean, do you expect that I could have both programs running on one computer simultaneously and collecting data at the same time. For example what I'd like to do is image with my C11 and AT65EDQ at the same time so I can have both a wide field and high magnification image of the same target at the same time. They don't need to talk with one another but they would need to stay out of one another's way.




YOU BET

One won't even know (or care) that the other one is running

Regards,

Guylain


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rob288
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Re: BackyardNIKON, ask me anything! new [Re: JoseBorrero]
      #6342079 - 01/28/14 11:08 PM

Great news will be great to use your software with our Nikon D800's, versions 3 is looking great for Backyard EOS 3 premium, thanks for all the effort you put in.

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EFT
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Re: BackyardNIKON, ask me anything! new [Re: guyroch]
      #6342646 - 01/29/14 09:38 AM

Guylain,

Do you have a list of which Nikon cameras support BULB over USB? I know my D90 does not but I think that my D100 does.

Ed.


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guyroch
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Re: BackyardNIKON, ask me anything! new [Re: EFT]
      #6342692 - 01/29/14 09:59 AM

Only the latest models do sadly.

The D5200, D5300, D7100, D800 does support bulb over USB AFAIK. I'm assuming all cameras built after these models will.

The D5100 and D7000 do not. However, they have better sensors for astronomy. So it all depends what your goal is.

I believe none the D## (2 digits) model support bulb over USB.

Hope this helps,

Guylain


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SteveRosenow
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Re: BackyardNIKON, ask me anything! new [Re: guyroch]
      #6347335 - 01/31/14 02:28 PM

Question for you.

How long of a cable set would I be able to work with?

Reason I ask, is that my tripods are a good 40 feet or more from the house, and if I can at least control the manual guiding, I can let the computer control the exposures from inside the house.

Is there special hardware that would allow this?


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guyroch
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Re: BackyardNIKON, ask me anything! new [Re: SteveRosenow]
      #6347389 - 01/31/14 02:59 PM

For USB cable anything longer than 10 feet you should get an active repeater cable.

Guylain


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skywolf856
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Re: BackyardNIKON, ask me anything! new [Re: guyroch]
      #6348141 - 01/31/14 09:56 PM

Would the older D80 have a chance?
Mine does use a wired remote.


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guyroch
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Re: BackyardNIKON, ask me anything! new [Re: skywolf856]
      #6348204 - 01/31/14 10:37 PM

Quote:

Would the older D80 have a chance?
Mine does use a wired remote.




It should

Thank you

Guylain


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Whichwayisnorth
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Re: BackyardNIKON, ask me anything! [Re: guyroch]
      #6352280 - 02/02/14 11:16 PM

BackyardNIKON
BackyardNIK
NIKBackyard
NIKBack
Nickleback

There you go. For now on I am calling it Nickleback.


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