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Art Fritzson
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The best $12 I ever spent on this hobby....
      #1076327 - 08/03/06 10:22 PM

I apologize in advance if everybody else knows about this already, but it was sure news to me. I recently acquired an accessory for my bino observing sessions that is just an extraordinary value. It's Sky & Telescope's Pocket Sky Atlas.

Before you say "oh, another atlas, big deal" let me say this - I acquired this and a new Nagler 16mm Type 5 eyepiece on the same day and I'm more excited about the atlas.

I have a Sky Atlas 2000 ("deluxe version",$60) and it's a thing of beauty and a joy to behold - but a real pain in the neck to lug around and actually use in the field especially when you're just binocular observing. If you've ever spent time with one you know that (1) the lack of constellation lines can be infuriating but not nearly as annoying as (2) not having any indication of the connecting pages to the chart you're looking at without unfolding the darn index page way at the back that has to be unfolded to use like all the other pages, not to mention (3) how much space it takes up to actually use when you've got one chart unfolded and have to look at the index to find another chart - an 8 foot desk would be convenient but, curiously, not always readily available when you're standing in the middle of a field at night.

But, yes, it's pretty and it's impressive to show off to friends ("What, you can't see Orion in that chart? Here, let me show you") and you can buy a nifty Sky Atlas 2000 Companion Volume - a really useful $30 accessory thats even less useful in the field when you're just using binoculars.

And the SA 2000 is the best of the lot.

Don't get me wrong, I love a good atlas. In addition to the SA 2000 (and the SA 2000 Companion Volume), I have the Burnham books, the Night Sky Observer's Guide (Volumes 1 and 2), The Modern Moon (Wood), and Rukl's Atlas of the Moon. But, except for the SA 2000, I've never taken one out in the field; I'd just feel silly doing so. I've also got about a half dozen really useful charting and planetarium programs - but lugging a computer out to the field seems even sillier for binocular observing.

Enter Sky and Telescope's Pocket Sky Atlas. I found this through a post on CNs Beginners Forum from user FirstSight (thanks!!) who says "This is NOT the usual set of greatly abridged charts you see in most compact sky guides - it's a full-fledged 80-chart sky atlas that includes stars down to mag 7.5, plus the locations of selected dimmer stars of particular interest, e.g. Barnard's Star. It includes the 1500 most visible deep sky objects. The author notes that mag 7.5 was chosen because it corresponds well with what is visible in most finderscopes - thus optimized for visual star-hopping." See this post for the rest. Retailing for a whopping $20 and available at WalMart (yes, WalMart, look here) for less than $12, it provides the most well organized, well presented, and just darn useful collection of charts I've ever used. And it's sized so that I can stuff it inside the spare space of the soft case for my Obie 15x70s. It fits in my glove box along with my Celestron 10x50 Nobles. It fits in the eyepiece drawer of my Teleport along with all the eyepieces.

In the Pocket Sky Atlas, the constellations leap off the pages at you. And moving from map to map is intuitively easy and conveniently labeled to boot. OTOH should you ever need to access the chart index it is (amazingly!) on the inside back cover - easy to find and use without unfolding and (even more amazing!) just opposite the object index you will most likely use most often, the Messier Catalog. It's spiral bound and will lay flat or can be folded back for easy one handed use.

Of course it does have some oddities in common with the SA2000 that I guess I'll just have to get used to. For example, when you want to move off the right edge of a chart, you have to flip back to the next section and when you want to move off the left edge of the chart you have to flip forward - just the opposite of what you'd intuitively expect, but consistent when you number charts in hours of right ascension instead of convenience.

But these are nits. I'm just so excited to have an atlas that's really designed to be used in the field and one that is especially valuable when all you've got with you is a pair (or six) of binoculars.

What can I say - little things excite me these days

- Art

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2006 "Bagging on a Budget" Award for Excellence in Binocular Astronomy
Garrett 25x100 IF, Oberwerk 15x70, Celestron Noble 10x50, Meade 10x50 and 8x42 Travelviews
William Optics Zenithstar II 80mm APO
Teleport 10" - an incredible all-in-one Planetary/DSO/"Grab and Go"


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Saptarshi
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Re: The best $12 I ever spent on this hobby.... new [Re: Art Fritzson]
      #1076382 - 08/03/06 10:57 PM

Looks like everybody bought one, its out of stock

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Re: The best $12 I ever spent on this hobby.... new [Re: Saptarshi]
      #1076389 - 08/03/06 11:02 PM

I've been to 3 Walmart super stores and didn't find it

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Re: The best $12 I ever spent on this hobby.... new [Re: Art Fritzson]
      #1076398 - 08/03/06 11:06 PM

Art,

If you haven't done so already, go to the S&T website and download and print the corrections to some of the maps.

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Re: The best $12 I ever spent on this hobby.... new [Re: Les]
      #1076410 - 08/03/06 11:10 PM

Fun report, Art. I really like your posts!

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Re: The best $12 I ever spent on this hobby.... new [Re: Joad]
      #1076447 - 08/03/06 11:32 PM

thanks for the info!! Art

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John Flannery
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Re: The best $12 I ever spent on this hobby.... new [Re: mttafire]
      #1076743 - 08/04/06 06:24 AM

Hi Art,

Great report and many thanks for the info.

I saw the Pocket Atlas on sale for $19.95 in Barnes and Noble in May/June when in San Francisco but got a few copies off Amazon for the $12 price . . . have given most of them away to friends back here in Ireland. A great atlas and I used it extensively the last couple of months.

Likewise, download the corrections at . . .

http://skytonight.com/observing/skychart/3311296.html

All the best,

John

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Re: The best $12 I ever spent on this hobby.... new [Re: John Flannery]
      #1076806 - 08/04/06 08:16 AM

Art -

I've been meaning to buy one of those pocket atlases for some time now. If only I could stop bidding on vintage binoculars, then I might have the spare cash to buy another atlas! I've already pushed my astro-gear limits with the wife for the month of August, so I'll have to wait until next month... I agree about the SA2000 - I own it and I like it, but it's not very practical to use in the field.

Clear dark skies...

MIkeG

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Art Fritzson
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Re: The best $12 I ever spent on this hobby.... new [Re: John Flannery]
      #1077302 - 08/04/06 01:52 PM

Quote:

I saw the Pocket Atlas on sale for $19.95 in Barnes and Noble in May/June when in San Francisco but got a few copies off Amazon for the $12 price . . . have given most of them away to friends back here in Ireland. A great atlas and I used it extensively the last couple of months.

Likewise, download the corrections at . . .

http://skytonight.com/observing/skychart/3311296.html





Thanks everyone for the comments.

For those that were unable to find it at Walmart, Amazon is still showing it in stock - for $13 at this link.

Also, thanks for the link to S&T for the two corrections - but the pdf files seem to be missing. I've sent a note to S&T asking for them to be reposted.

- Art

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2006 "Bagging on a Budget" Award for Excellence in Binocular Astronomy
Garrett 25x100 IF, Oberwerk 15x70, Celestron Noble 10x50, Meade 10x50 and 8x42 Travelviews
William Optics Zenithstar II 80mm APO
Teleport 10" - an incredible all-in-one Planetary/DSO/"Grab and Go"


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Saptarshi
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Re: The best $12 I ever spent on this hobby.... new [Re: Art Fritzson]
      #1077633 - 08/04/06 04:59 PM

Hi Art,

Thank you. I ordered one.

Shailesh

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Re: The best $12 I ever spent on this hobby.... new [Re: Saptarshi]
      #1077836 - 08/04/06 07:09 PM

After reading Art's review, I guess I'll have to get one. Sounds like its very user friendly. Another pocket guide that has been around for awhile is THE OBSERVER'S SKY ATLAS.
Fifty charts with lots of info. Very efficient use of page space. Its published by by Springer-Verlag.
Bonco

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Re: The best $12 I ever spent on this hobby.... new [Re: Art Fritzson]
      #1078122 - 08/04/06 11:03 PM

Art:

Really appreciate the tip. I have been in need of a compact Atlas. My Wil Tirion won't fit in my shirt pocket! I just went on line at Amazon and ordered the Pocket Atlas along with the latest James Lee Burke novel. Ain't shopping fun!

Regards
Daryl

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Intes Micro MN66 - Meade 10" SCT
Skywatcher 150mm f8 Achro
CGE Mount - DiscMount DM-6 on Meade Field Tripod
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Lumicon 80mm Super Finder
ED80 w MoonLite focuser on CG5A-GT mount
WO ZenithStar ST 80mm/WO B-viewer
Astro-Tech AT80 Refractor f6.9 APO
On SV M1 mount & Grab-Go Tripod
Stellarvue 20x85 binos - Unimount
Kunming United Optics 7x50 binocs
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Art Fritzson
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Re: The best $12 I ever spent on this hobby.... new [Re: Bonco]
      #1079833 - 08/06/06 01:06 AM

Quote:

After reading Art's review, I guess I'll have to get one.




Cripes no! Don't mistake my boyish enthusiasm for real expertise!

And for goodness sake, don't blame me if you don't like it.

- Art

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2006 "Bagging on a Budget" Award for Excellence in Binocular Astronomy
Garrett 25x100 IF, Oberwerk 15x70, Celestron Noble 10x50, Meade 10x50 and 8x42 Travelviews
William Optics Zenithstar II 80mm APO
Teleport 10" - an incredible all-in-one Planetary/DSO/"Grab and Go"


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Re: The best $12 I ever spent on this hobby.... new [Re: Art Fritzson]
      #1082412 - 08/07/06 05:32 PM

Hey Art -

No blame! I just ordered it too! A guy can't have too many maps, atlases, globes, charts, planispheres, etc. Good for those cloudy nights!

Thanks for the post,

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Garrett Optical Gemini 25x100 WP,
Oberwerk 10x60 Mariner,
Bogen 3051 tripod w/ 3063 head, dual handles,
Telrad,
Palm Planetarium,
Palm Astromist,
Stellarium (runs great on Vista),
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Replogle 'Apollo' celestial globe,
Sky & Telescope Pocket Atlas.


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Re: The best $12 I ever spent on this hobby.... new [Re: mplkn1]
      #1083692 - 08/08/06 01:24 PM

On the topic of "too many atlases" there is a very nice spoof to be found on the Company Seven web site.

I have used the Pocket Atlas since it became available in April and find it perfect for field use. It has also traveled with me to Nicaragua and then to Libya.

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Northern Virginia
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Re: The best $12 I ever spent on this hobby.... new [Re: JHollJr]
      #1083772 - 08/08/06 02:20 PM

Thanks for the post, Art.

I've ordered the Pocket Sky Atlast myself few days ago - hopefully it will arrive here soon. Skyatlas 2000.0 is a wonderful atlas - but I hear you, it's bulk! What I would like to mention is that so far my favourite map is Orion's Deepmap 600 - maps done by Wil Tirion, brief description of objects and there are no Sh2-115 alike objects you need 50" to see. Very intiutive, made from plastic paper which does not get wet and it's pretty small too! (I'm not affiliated with Orion in any way.) Simply amazing product!

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Saptarshi
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Re: The best $12 I ever spent on this hobby.... new [Re: blackhaz]
      #1085139 - 08/09/06 06:46 AM

I got it today, it is very nice.

Shailesh

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Re: The best $12 I ever spent on this hobby.... new [Re: Art Fritzson]
      #1086930 - 08/10/06 02:23 AM

Art:

Thanks much for the heads-up. I received the Pocket Atlas from Amazon.com today and it is super! I like the way it is organized and I like the heavy-duty materials used in its production. This Atlas will be in use for years, I'm sure.

Regards
Daryl

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Intes Micro MN66 - Meade 10" SCT
Skywatcher 150mm f8 Achro
CGE Mount - DiscMount DM-6 on Meade Field Tripod
with SkyCommander DSC
Lumicon 80mm Super Finder
ED80 w MoonLite focuser on CG5A-GT mount
WO ZenithStar ST 80mm/WO B-viewer
Astro-Tech AT80 Refractor f6.9 APO
On SV M1 mount & Grab-Go Tripod
Stellarvue 20x85 binos - Unimount
Kunming United Optics 7x50 binocs
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Re: The best $12 I ever spent on this hobby.... new [Re: darylf96]
      #1087978 - 08/10/06 04:58 PM

Had to cave in and add one more atlas to my inventory...Ordered mine today.
Bonco

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Meade 2045
6 inch f/4 RFT R. Fagin Optics
TV Genesis
2.4 inch Lafayette Equitorial
3 inch Polarex/Unitron Equitorial
10 inch Zhumell
PST 40mm Solar scope
4 inch F/15 Antares
2.4 inch Unitron Equitorial


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Re: The best $12 I ever spent on this hobby.... new [Re: Art Fritzson]
      #1088052 - 08/10/06 05:40 PM



Thanks Art!!


I will order a copy online!!

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