Brent Burton
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Loc: Sammamish, WA
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Here is a scope I made to fit into a box.
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10" Hardin "Carbon"
80mm WO Megrez Fluorite
130mm mini truss
Custom wood mounts & tripods
4.5" motorized dob device "Transformer Scope"
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Brent Burton
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Reged: 04/06/05
Posts: 249
Loc: Sammamish, WA
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Collapsed into the box
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10" Hardin "Carbon"
80mm WO Megrez Fluorite
130mm mini truss
Custom wood mounts & tripods
4.5" motorized dob device "Transformer Scope"
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Brent Burton
sage
Reged: 04/06/05
Posts: 249
Loc: Sammamish, WA
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box closed
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10" Hardin "Carbon"
80mm WO Megrez Fluorite
130mm mini truss
Custom wood mounts & tripods
4.5" motorized dob device "Transformer Scope"
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rnabholz
scholastic sledgehammer
Reged: 07/25/04
Posts: 765
Loc: Iowa
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Brian,
Yes it does act as a cover for the mirror box. As a result It is certainly larger than it would have to be to serve it's primary purpose, but I value its utility as a cover more than any weight savings I might realize by making it smaller.
I also think it works well aesthetically when assembled, it balances the mirror box well.
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Rod Nabholz
Home Built Astronomy Projects
Wild Bird Photography
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Daniel Mounsey
Vendor - Woodland Hils
Reged: 06/12/02
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I have fairly detailed write-ups for the two telescopes shown here, and would be pleased to send PDF copies to anyone. Just contact me off list.
Ron,
I am truly honored to see these pictures of "Alice" shared in these forums.  For those who may not know, Ron's beautiful telescopes have been pictured in numerous publications and are what inspired me to take wood shop more seriously over the years. Thank you again Ron. I really love the work that others have posted here as well.
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Art Bianconi
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Brent, having struggled for the last six months to develope a Airline Legal Carry-on, I can appreciate the effort it took to package yours.
I have an idea. Why not a seperate string on portable scopes that satisfy the airline carry on rule? (Adding up the three sides must total less than 45 inches.) It would not get wrecked by the baggage manglers and would fit in the overhead.
Yours would work it appears. What size mirror?
Art
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“Everything is on its way to somewhere. . . . . everything!"
____________________ George Malley (John Travolta)
________________________ "Phenomenon"
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Brent Burton
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Reged: 04/06/05
Posts: 249
Loc: Sammamish, WA
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Thanks Art, the mirror is 130mm out of an Orion Space probe 130. I'm not sure the exact size right off hand but in the last pic it has a 12" ruler resting against it for scale. The only thing I wouldn't be able to carry on are the truss poles. everything else is just wood and a couple bungy cords.
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10" Hardin "Carbon"
80mm WO Megrez Fluorite
130mm mini truss
Custom wood mounts & tripods
4.5" motorized dob device "Transformer Scope"
Edited by Brent Burton (08/10/06 12:03 AM)
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Art Bianconi
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Brent wrote: "The only thing I wouldn't be able to carry on are the truss poles."
If you go to Cabella's web site and look at their selection of carbon fiber arrow shafts, you will see that with extra couplers you can join two shafts to get the result you want. Then unscrew them and place them in the same box.
Check out a local sporting goods store and you'll see what I mean!
Art
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“Everything is on its way to somewhere. . . . . everything!"
____________________ George Malley (John Travolta)
________________________ "Phenomenon"
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Averted
professor emeritus
Reged: 01/26/05
Posts: 517
Loc: San Francisco
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Well, I just posted this on another thread, bit here is my humble offering designed to fit in a cooking vessel and to weight less than 3.0 (it doesn't quite fit and weighs a little more!).
This is such a natural thread for the ATM forum! ITs a wonder it has taken so long to follow the lead of the SRF's!
Great idea.
It is really tremendous to see the work here. Ron R, it was great to see you pop up on this forum all the sudden and post all these pictures of your remarkable work. Your "Alice" scope was one of a few scope I saved in my binder of examples to learn from.
Chuck, seeing your gaggle of scopes lined up by the pool is an impressive site! (It also kinda makes me want to jump in a pool right now--it was hot today!).
you guys both put so much personality and clear enjoyment in your work--something you just can't get from your manufactured scoped!
Brent--I know exactly what you went through to accomplish your goals!
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Dave
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-Intes M503
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Beri
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Reged: 06/29/05
Posts: 275
Loc: Croatia
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Beri, that photo you posted of that 200 mm F6 Dob is lovely!
Might we see more detailed photos please? Could you also tell us what type of materials you used and perhaps some discussion on the building techniques?
Thank you Art!
I have been asked for the "material list" some time ago... so I will just copy/paste it here 
1. Spider
Vanes holder is a plastic 1/2" female to 3/4" male adapter. Spider vanes are hacksawblades, fastened to the holder with 3.5x16 mm screws. Secondary holder is a piece of PVC 40 mm sink extension, spring between the 2 is taken out of an old VCR.
One M6x60 screw as center screw, and 3 M5x40 screws for collimation.
2 Finderscope
Canadian army binoculars objective, glued to a piece of 50 mm aluminum tubing that used to be a pole for a large sun umbrella
Drawtube focuser was made from a piece of the drawtube that was cut from the 80mm F5 refractor.
Eyepiece is a 20 mm Kellner, with 2 hairs found on my sisters hairbrush as crosshairs
Mounted on a metal "L", which is bent from a piece of lightning conductor.
OTA:
250 mm diameter 1 meter long PVC sewer pipe... cut in 2 sections, separated and held together with 4 metal broomsticks.
The clamps to hold the broomsticks are made from perforated metal usualy used to hang celling constructions...
Altitude bearings : 200 mm PVC sewer pipe plugs riding on pieces of carpet
Handle on OTA is taken from a welding mask. Counterweight system is a threaded rod and a Meade SCT counterweight
Mirror cell:
2 plywood disks, with springs mounted under DIN fuserails , springs taken out of a motorcycle clutch, 3 M6 threaded rods for collimation. Mirror rests on plastic sponge pieces taken from a lid of a bedscanner. Side mirror holders and holders for the threaded rods made from 25 mm wide 3 mm thick lightning conductor
Mount: laminated wood tabletop
Bearings : 3 ballbearings riding on a metal plate , metal plate was cut from an old foldable table which had a broken leg.
Leveling : 3 C clamps, cut in half
Eyepiece rack: piece of MDF, cut at 45 deg, usualy used to connect parts of kitchen furniture
Setting circles: printed on paper and glued, pointers are furniture magnets
A small bubble level from the hardware store
Handle on mount is made from leftover wood and a piece of the broomstick that connects the upper and lower OTA part
And a yellow rubber keychain
Some more pics and info HERE
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15x70 Binoculars
no scope right now
http://www.scopemaking.net
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rwiederrich
Goldfinger
Reged: 11/17/05
Posts: 6190
Loc: Bremerton Washington
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Chuck!
Amazing, amazing fer sure.
Looks like you are a master woodworker, and you, from what I can see, built at least four designs masterfully.
Beautiful. I enjoyed how you blended very modern focusers, with the wonderful art of beautiful wood, and design.
Great job. You are very skilled.
Rob
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Providing a great place for amateur astronomers, and ATM's to come and enjoy their hobby.
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rwiederrich
Goldfinger
Reged: 11/17/05
Posts: 6190
Loc: Bremerton Washington
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Brent,
Your execution of actually getting that scope to fit....no to BE the box is masterful.
Great idea, and wonderful work.
I am so impressed with the workmanship of all the scopes represented here.
Rob(Scope in-a Box), Great Idea!
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Providing a great place for amateur astronomers, and ATM's to come and enjoy their hobby.
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rwiederrich
Goldfinger
Reged: 11/17/05
Posts: 6190
Loc: Bremerton Washington
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And Brent, why aren't you coming to my star party on the 18,19 and the 25,26 of this month....Hmmm?
I want to see this scope.
There are about 12 others attending from all around Washington, and Oregon.
Consider yourself invited...
Rob(PM me for directions if you are interested)
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www.goldmtobservingcenter.com
Providing a great place for amateur astronomers, and ATM's to come and enjoy their hobby.
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Art Bianconi
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Beri, your ability to adapt whatever is available is better developed than any other ATM I've met!
What others might call "junk" you turn into jewels!
We waste a lot in the US. We are going to need people like you over here in government when we run out of money!
Care to move? 
Art
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“Everything is on its way to somewhere. . . . . everything!"
____________________ George Malley (John Travolta)
________________________ "Phenomenon"
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rwiederrich
Goldfinger
Reged: 11/17/05
Posts: 6190
Loc: Bremerton Washington
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Well, I just posted this on another thread, bit here is my humble offering designed to fit in a cooking vessel and to weight less than 3.0 (it doesn't quite fit and weighs a little more!).
This is such a natural thread for the ATM forum! ITs a wonder it has taken so long to follow the lead of the SRF's!
Great idea.
It is really tremendous to see the work here. Ron R, it was great to see you pop up on this forum all the sudden and post all these pictures of your remarkable work. Your "Alice" scope was one of a few scope I saved in my binder of examples to learn from.
Chuck, seeing your gaggle of scopes lined up by the pool is an impressive site! (It also kinda makes me want to jump in a pool right now--it was hot today!).
you guys both put so much personality and clear enjoyment in your work--something you just can't get from your manufactured scoped!
Brent--I know exactly what you went through to accomplish your goals!
I know as an ATM'r that sometimes we get lost in the crowd of manufactured scopes, especially the high end types.
Back in the day, if you wanted a scope of any design, you had to make it yourself.
That is why I started this thread. I wanted to see the work of these fine ATM'rs. I knew they were there, but I never knew that so many built so many well executed scopes, and with great skill.
I am glad to marvel at the craftsmanship.
Good work to all!
Rob
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Providing a great place for amateur astronomers, and ATM's to come and enjoy their hobby.
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Undermidnight
Carpal Tunnel
Reged: 05/25/04
Posts: 2055
Loc: Hilliard, Ohio
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Hey guys,
Here is my ball scope on it's little mount...
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WO Megrez 90 on EZTouch Mount
WO Zenithstar 66 on Microstar Mount
PST
8" F/4.2 Ball Scope, "Marilyn"
12.5" F/4.3 Ball Scope, "Ada"
11x70 Oberwerks
6" F/6 Polishing
Pans and Naglers
"We who cut mere stones, must always be envisioning cathedrals." - The Quarry Workers Creed
http://www.undermidnight.com
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Undermidnight
Carpal Tunnel
Reged: 05/25/04
Posts: 2055
Loc: Hilliard, Ohio
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And here it is on my adapter I fitted on top of a Meade field tripod...
I got a new ball and I used some fleck paint inspired by Ron Ravneberg (hey Ron!! good to see you here on cloudynights!)
Jason
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WO Megrez 90 on EZTouch Mount
WO Zenithstar 66 on Microstar Mount
PST
8" F/4.2 Ball Scope, "Marilyn"
12.5" F/4.3 Ball Scope, "Ada"
11x70 Oberwerks
6" F/6 Polishing
Pans and Naglers
"We who cut mere stones, must always be envisioning cathedrals." - The Quarry Workers Creed
http://www.undermidnight.com
Edited by Undermidnight (08/10/06 12:25 PM)
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rwiederrich
Goldfinger
Reged: 11/17/05
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Loc: Bremerton Washington
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Jason,
Great scope. I surely enjoy the simplicity of design.
And the ball gives plenty of mobility.
Your adaptation to the field tripod is great.
Great work! 
Rob
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rwiederrich
Goldfinger
Reged: 11/17/05
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Loc: Bremerton Washington
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Beri, your ability to adapt whatever is available is better developed than any other ATM I've met!
What others might call "junk" you turn into jewels!
We waste a lot in the US. We are going to need people like you over here in government when we run out of money!
Care to move?
Art
Art. Demonstrated here is the very work of ATM'ers using thier imaginations to the fullest.
It's not enough to actually build a scope, but to see in the common things, even the refuse, things that can be re-used, and remachined to be what they never were intended to be.
*C* clamps cut in half, broom handles, doodads gathered from copy machines, and broken blenders.
Its the things fun is made of.
Rob(I rarely see things for what they are, but what they can become) When I'm building a scope.
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www.goldmtobservingcenter.com
Providing a great place for amateur astronomers, and ATM's to come and enjoy their hobby.
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Beri
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Reged: 06/29/05
Posts: 275
Loc: Croatia
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Beri, your ability to adapt whatever is available is better developed than any other ATM I've met!
Now imagine the real guys, who burn #1200 sandpaper and mix the ashes in water to extract the #1200 grit....who collect pine tree resin to mix it with tar to get polishing pitch... and so on...
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We waste a lot in the US. We are going to need people like you over here in government when we run out of money!
Heheheh
Yes! Vote Beri for President!
All optics and telescopes will be completely tax free!  
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15x70 Binoculars
no scope right now
http://www.scopemaking.net
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