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alfredbird
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Reged: 02/14/06
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Loc: Sydney, Australia
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as I freshman in this field, I decide to start my star gazing with binoculars.
Now I plan to order Pentax PCF WPII, but not decide go with 10x50 or 12x50.
1. 10x50 should be a better start point, but I found on some review say than 12x can see much more than 10x.
2. I don't know 5.0 degree vs 4.2 degree will affect me a lot of recognize night sky.
3. I'm 27, so I believe my eye pupil is more than 5mm, so 12x50 has 4.2mm exit pupil probably too small for me?
4. WPII's usable ER is enough for wearing eyeglasses?
4. last, I read some reviews say WPII's QC is worse than previos versions. I want to know for a new guy, this series is still a good choice or not now?
many thanks.
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edwincjones
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For me, the issue would be hand steadyness. 12x for many require a tripod.
edj
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alfredbird
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Reged: 02/14/06
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Loc: Sydney, Australia
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I prefer hand hold for new bino. Pextax website states they are almost same weight, so hand hold 12x50 will be a problem?
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EdZ
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Quote:
hand hold 12x50 will be a problem?
More because of the magnification rather than the weight. Not so bad for scanning around, but difficult to hold 12x still for detailed observing.
edz
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CactusButt
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Reged: 01/25/06
Posts: 349
Loc: Deep in the Heart of Texas
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The Pentax 12x50's are my first binoculars. As other have stated, they are difficult for me to hold steady. I find them hard to get focused, probaly because I can't hold them still. I wish I would have gone with the 10x50s.
I will probably be looking at selling them or getting a mount.
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Barry
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Meade LX200GPS 10" : Scopey
Orion 80ED : Smokey
Willam Optics ZenithStar 66SD - Patriot Edition : Sammy
Coronado PST - Double Stacked : Sunny
Vixen PortaMount
Denkmeier Standard Binoviewers
Pentax PCF WP II 12x50
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Penarin
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Reged: 11/22/04
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Loc: Orion, IL
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Once you click down the eye guards, the 10x50s work great with glasses. Can't help you with the ER on the 12x50s...
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Meade 6" f/8 refractor
Orion Atlas (EQ6) mount
Oberwerk 25 x 100IF
Pentax 10x50 PCF WP II
Orion Outsider 8 x 40 WA
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Rich V.
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Reged: 01/02/05
Posts: 884
Loc: Carson Valley, Nevada USA
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CB,
You don't have to give up on the 12x bin, it can be better for astronomy in a number of ways, it's just that you need some help keeping it steady.
Have you considered a tall monopod? For one, Kevin at BigBinoculars sells a Giottos monopod with a Bogen tilt head that is 6' tall and works quite well with 12-16x binoculars. It weighs under 2#. http://www.bigbinoculars.com/monopod.htm
It just might do the trick for you.
Rich V
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Binoculars: 33-150x100 Saturn III, 16x70FMT-SX, 10x50 PCF-V, 10x43 DCF-SP, 10x35 E2, 7x35 E, 8x30 E2, 7x26 Custom, 8x23AS Diplomat, 8x23 Travelite
Scopes: C9.25, 6" f8 reflector, SV80S
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CactusButt
sage
Reged: 01/25/06
Posts: 349
Loc: Deep in the Heart of Texas
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Rich, I probably will not give up them and thanks for the link. I had not really wanted to tripod mount them, so maybe a monopod like in the link would be the ticket...so many accessories in this great hobby... 
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Barry
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Meade LX200GPS 10" : Scopey
Orion 80ED : Smokey
Willam Optics ZenithStar 66SD - Patriot Edition : Sammy
Coronado PST - Double Stacked : Sunny
Vixen PortaMount
Denkmeier Standard Binoviewers
Pentax PCF WP II 12x50
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kentak
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Reged: 07/09/03
Posts: 441
Loc: Colorado, USA
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I have a pair of 12x50's and if you sit in a lounge chair and prop your elbows on the rests they quite well. I really like them, and the price was right.
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