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Basically same process?
      #1107590 - 08/22/06 06:09 AM


Apologies in advance if this post belongs in another place.

The link below describes a supposedly "new" process for capturing sharp ground based images; by selecting the sharpest and stacking maybe?

I'm wondering if this is a more sophisticated version of what we've been doing here for some time?

Jim

http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/AstraLux_Hubbles_Sharp_Resolution_from_Calar_Alto_999.html

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Re: Basically same process? new [Re: gazerjim]
      #1108343 - 08/22/06 04:07 PM

Hi Jim!!

I took a look and it is quite interesting to know, that's the exact thing(keeping distances...) we've been doing here!!
The only difference is that(and there is some info detail left as to the duration of the frames' capture, and their camera frame rate...)they capture for long lapses and I guess Planets are not included in these captures...
From what I understand from reading, these high quality results were only achieved with "close binary stars, stellar clusters, as well as rapidly varying sources like eclipsing binary stars or rapidly rotating neutron stars known as pulsars".
(no planets are mentioned, possibly because of relative fast rotation of some of them...)
Anyway it's great to know we follow very good methods to get the best planetary detail and they resemble to more sophisticated methods used by serious researchers...especially by those imagers here whose cameras get 60fps or 100fps.

Hey Jim, I was wondering where you'd been!! Hope to see your images of Saturn very soon (it'll be seen at dawn very soon so get ready!!)

Hugs and thanks for the link!!

David


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Re: Basically same process? new [Re: David Rivas]
      #1108624 - 08/22/06 06:36 PM

Hi Jim, yes it does indeed look to be exactly the same process that we are using on planetary images. Imaging deep-sky objects like this requires a large mirror to overcome the faintness of the objects, but then you have the advantage that they aren't changing, so you can spread your observation and capture out over long time periods to find enough good frames.

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Re: Basically same process? new [Re: Bird]
      #1109374 - 08/23/06 03:03 AM

Good to chat with you guys again!

I'm sort of laying low, working nights and eagerly awaiting the return of Saturn.

Good seeing,

Jim

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Re: Basically same process? new [Re: gazerjim]
      #1109627 - 08/23/06 09:02 AM

Thanks for the info Jim. I went to the website of the camera manufacturer and it's most affordable camera is a 658X498 CCD with 10um pixel size at $9k!! It is capable on only 30fps at full resolution. I think I'd be better off with a Dragonfly Express!!

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Re: Basically same process? new [Re: chris go]
      #1110353 - 08/23/06 05:22 PM

Chris: Yeah; I took a quick look at the same website--very quick.

Sounds like they are working with the benefit of big bucks.

Jim

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Re: Basically same process? new [Re: gazerjim]
      #1110500 - 08/23/06 06:58 PM

Seems like they are aiming at deep sky targets, so their camera specs make some sense - they're not wanting large magnification so 10u pixels are ok, and probably 30fps is more than enough for faint targets unless you have a really large mirror.

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