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NickH
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IF I were you, i would wait until after NEAF, see the Lunt reviews (or ideally first hand), and then make the call.
If the Lunt scopes are as good as the hype, don;t have rust issues (which I guess they won't), don't have asigmatic optics (which i guess they won't), and deliver 0.75A (which they say they will), then it's a no brainer..
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darkstar528
Postmaster
Reged: 03/06/07
Posts: 7461
Loc: Hodgenville, Kentucky, USA
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I don't think we can see granulation with the PST...I can see the orange peel carpet, but never granulation...
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Blue skies,
Stephen "Darkstar" Ames
PST(#96038), VIXEN 8-24mm,CEMAX 2x Barlow, Thousand Oaks White Light Filter and a Meade Elec EP
CFI, CFII, MEI, working on EIEIO!
BAA Member
My solar site:
http://seemysunspot.com
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bsim
Pooh-Bah
Reged: 01/04/08
Posts: 1207
Loc: New York City
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Quote:
IF I were you, i would wait until after NEAF, see the Lunt reviews (or ideally first hand), and then make the call.
Thanks for the sound advice. I will be attending NEAF. I didn't realize that Lunt would be there.
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Teeter's 15" f/4.5, Teeter's 10" f/6.0
Sundry Reflectors, Refractors, and Binoculars
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colinsk
Carpal Tunnel
Reged: 01/17/08
Posts: 2170
Loc: CA
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I have a reparied PST and I love it. The resale value on the PST has been pretty good so if you want to sell it later it should not be hard to get $450 for it. They don't stay on Astromart very long.
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Mahalo,
Colin Kaminski
Coulter 10.1" Dobsonian
TV-76/Baader Film White Light
LS60T/DS50/FT/BF1200
LDX-75
AT Voyager
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Erix
Toad Lily
Reged: 12/25/04
Posts: 22539
Loc: Ohio, USA
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I don't think we can see granulation with the PST...I can see the orange peel carpet, but never granulation...
That's right, Stephen. Granulation is a photosphere term. But I believe granulation is broadly being used to describe that orange peel effect/dark mottles against the chromospheric network that we can see in the chromosphere in h-alpha.
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Erika
Automatic doors make me feel like a Jedi. 
Zhumell 16", 10" LX200 Classic,Orion ED80, ETX70-AT, DS Maxscope 60mm
My CN Gallery * 2007 July - tracking NOAA10963
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Erix
Toad Lily
Reged: 12/25/04
Posts: 22539
Loc: Ohio, USA
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Ben, Colin is right about the PST's. They're a great value for the money and Meade is fixing the problem that came with the product when they bought it.
Lunt is something to keep your eye on though. It'll be interesting to see the results once these scopes are actually produced and on the market. I hope they have several actual scopes to for everyone to try out at NEAF this year.
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Erika
Automatic doors make me feel like a Jedi.
Zhumell 16", 10" LX200 Classic,Orion ED80, ETX70-AT, DS Maxscope 60mm
My CN Gallery * 2007 July - tracking NOAA10963
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cocobolo
Carpal Tunnel
Reged: 10/27/07
Posts: 1550
Loc: british columbia, canada
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Hi Erika: Lunt says they definitely will have the scopes at NEAF. I see in my latest issue of Sky & Tel that they "are taking orders for April delivery"!!! If you go on to the European site that sounds wildly optimistic.
I am really looking forward to the Lunt reports from NEAF. Time will tell.
Keith
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cocobolo
Carpal Tunnel
Reged: 10/27/07
Posts: 1550
Loc: british columbia, canada
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Hi Stephen: About the granulation, David Knisely sorted me out on that one and provided enough information to fill your average telephone book. The man is an absolute gold mine of information. He feels that a 6" white light filter will show granulation, although I must admit that I have never seen it [that I know of] through my F 11.7 6" newt at left. But the sunspots look really terrific. Come to think of it, I have not noticed granulation through my 10" dob either. I'll have to pay far more attention next time. Trouble is, since I got the PST I haven't looked at the sun with the newts.
Keith
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Erix
Toad Lily
Reged: 12/25/04
Posts: 22539
Loc: Ohio, USA
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I can see granulation most days with the 70mm ETX using a white light filter. 
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Erika
Automatic doors make me feel like a Jedi.
Zhumell 16", 10" LX200 Classic,Orion ED80, ETX70-AT, DS Maxscope 60mm
My CN Gallery * 2007 July - tracking NOAA10963
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Ralph Marantino
Postmaster
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Posts: 6350
Loc: Old Bridge, New Jersey
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I see granulation with my 63mm Zeiss and a 1000 Oaks type 2 glass filter,then again I also see it with my 152mm f8 Astrophysics and a 2 inch Herscel Wedge.
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Lunt H-alpha LS100THa/B3400
Rockland Astronomy Club
Member BAA Solar Section
Central Appalachian Astronomy Club
Astronomical League
DSPST,PST & 70mm Coronado Cal K telescope.2.2A
Zeiss 2 inch prism diagonal&Zeiss Zoom EP
2inch APM Herschel Wedge in a 94mm F7 Brandon
14.5 inch f4.2 Starmaster Dob(Zambuto mirror)
TeleView Genisis SDF with 1000 Oaks Glass filter
Zeiss 63mm f13.5 refractor 1000 Oaks Glass filter
Itty Bitty Solar Radio Telescope.
LHRIES Lite Solar Spectrometer
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Richard B. Drumm
Pooh-Bah
Reged: 07/14/05
Posts: 1486
Loc: Albemarle Co. Virginia
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Sorry I've been so scarce here lately. Here's the latest iteration of da list!
Rich
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94017 sick - Rod Nabholz "rnabholz" in Iowa. Repaired with clear blue objective.
94101 sick - Claudio "Ford Prefect" in Roma. Repaired with blue objective.
94115 sick - "PEterW" in SW London, Repaired with clear blue objective.
94229 sick? - Rick in Tokyo
94230 sick - Joe Bergeron in NY - repaired twice, last time with clear blue lens.
94262 sick - JHM in Colorado. Repaired by Meade.
94343 sick - John Kocijanski in NY. Repaired by Coronado once, now sick again!
94366 sick - Phil Wheeler in LA. Purchased in July 2004.
94369 sick - Mike McShan in Oklahoma City. Sending it in for repair.
94595 sick - Chris Reich "Bucephelus" in California. LOST BY MEADE.
94600 sick - Mogster in Manchester. Replaced by Meade Germany, see 103825
94606 sick - Gary Meehan "AXAF" in Boston. Repaired by Meade with a clear blue objective.
94645 not sick - John Hoare in Kildare, Eire
94769 sick? - Dave LoPresti in Conn.
94991 sick - David "ad701xx" in Oregon. "Replaced objective lens and ITF. Clean optics"
95009 sick - Aaron McNeely in Indiana, repaired with blue/transparent obj. No bubbles.
95104 was blue, now gold - Tom Lawson "Guner" in NJ - repaired twice!
95141 sick - "colinsk" in California. Repaired with clear blue objective.
95166 sick - James Suarez "Jim7728" in NYC, repaired twice, 2nd time with blue/clear objective & new ITF/etalon. Works great now.
95296 - NickH in Wiltshire. Astigmatic prism (self repaired), replacement unit with clear (blue?) objective.
95414 sick - Mike Krzywonski in Texas, repaired by Meade, OK now.
95424 sick - Julio Cesar in Madrid - before repair. Replaced with new scope.
95594 sick - Brian D, "Happy Idiot" in NY. Repaired with blue objective & ITF. Sold to Keith Elliott "cocobolo" in British Columbia.
95660 sick - "CtGuy1955" in Connecticut. Sent in for repairs.
95769 sick - Joan Koch "StargazerJMK", Tacoma. Repaired with clear blue objective & ITF/etalon.
95919 sick - Ron T. "AstroRon" in Maine.
96038 not sick - Stephen Ames "darkstar528" in Kentucky.
96144 sick - Bruce Cosgrove "BRCoz" in Calif. Repaired with clear blue objective.
96264 sick - Jim Walsh in Mansfield, Texas. Repaired with blue objective.
96325 sick - DAVIDG in Delaware. Repaired with clear blue objective & ITF/etalon.
96367 sick - "Zoomster" in Fla.- now repaired.
96400 sick - "Mogster" in Manchester UK, replaced by Meade Germany with blue #103825
96448 sick - Mike Rosolina "Special Ed" in West Va. Repaired with clear blue objective & ITF/etalon.
96512 sick - Dave "DMI" Repaired by Meade with a blue objective.
96603 sick - K.W. Tong "TONGKW" in Hong Kong. Sent to Meade (Coronado), now repaired.
96605 sick - SO King-yan Oldfield in Hong Kong.
96618 sick - Doug D. in Virginia. Repaired with clear blue objective & ITF/etalon.
96682 sick - "$pace @ce" in Vancouver, Washington.
96714 sick - Darren Hiebert in Alabama, repaired, sick again!
96969 sick - CESDewar in Georgia, repaired with blue objective.
97148 sick - Bill Leslie "bill-in-forres" Scotland. Replaced by BC&F (Meade).
97171 sick - "jgrebed"
97193 sick - "ElWampa" in Texas. Bought through eBay.
97449 not sick yet, blue - Steve Durham in NY
97468 sick - Bruce Raemsch "Carpe Noctum" in Cal., returned, lost by Meade, replaced.
97491 gold - Daniel Steinke in Illinois - bought used, repaired?
97575 sick - "EmielVeldhuis" in Zwolle, Netherlands. Repaired with gold obj by Meade Germany, then replaced by them with new, blue objective scope.
97884 sick - Seremban "simonlee" in Malaysia. Repaired with blue objective.
98031 sick - Brian "Solar B" in Scotland. Repaired with new blue objective, new ERF/BF/Spacer.
98131 not sick, blue/transparent - Gustavo Phols in Mexico (already repaired?)
98457 sick? - "DanWray" in Denver. Knocked over, repaired with blue, not as good.
98569 sick - Joplin Motisher. Repaired with clear blue objective & ITF tested.
98670 sick & gold (yellow?) "Davo" in Scotland
98773 sick - Gregor(slo) in Slovenia (the old scope)
98994 sick - Steve Riegel "molniyabeer" in Italia, repaired, blue objective now.
99193 sick - Karoly "kfjpal" in Hungary. Might send it to Meade Germany or Broadhurst, Clarkson & Fuller in UK.
99309 sick - Michelle "JARSHEART" in Fla. "Replace objective lens and ITF, clean optics."
99335 sick - Kelly "Trombone" Repaired with clear blue objective & ITF/etalon. Traded to Bobby "Strgazr27" on Long Island?
99492 sick - "Solar1" in Texas. Sent back to Meade 3/8/07
99493 sick - Adrian Guzman "solmax" in San Jose, CA. Repaired with clear blue objective & ITF/etalon.
99520 sick - DanJ in North Carolina. Repaired, new blue objective, cleaned optics.
99729 sick - Kurt Fisher, "canopus56" in Salt Lake City. Repaired with clear blue objective.
99760 sick - (brand new in box - Discovery Store) - Steven Kim "kimsc321" in NJ
99801 unknown -- STOLEN -- Erika Rix in Ohio
99807 sick - "Ike" Stewart, Repaired with clear blue objective & ITF/etalon.
100051 sick - Trevor Durity in Galway, Eire (Ben Ritchie's old scope) - sent to Meade for repair. --REPLACED--
100122 sick - Fernando Mejido "Asturies" in La Mancha Espagna.
100292 not sick - Marcus Thompson "JAT Observatory" in Pennsylvania.
100349 not sick - Chris Schroeder in Wisconsin
100353 not sick - Jeff Wilson "birddog06" in Oregon.
100360 sick - Rick in Tokyo
100407 slightly sick - Stephane in Belgium.
100625 sick - Don Waid & George Duke in Florida.
100657 sick - Barry "CactusButt" in Texas. Will be sent back after TSP 2007.
100658 sick - Jim from NJ Night Sky. Repaired with clear blue objective & ITF/etalon.
100706 gold - Ed Kessler in PA, sold to JD Sherman in New Jersey?
100727 gold - Bill K. "SprintCar Driver" in California
100914 gold - Quentin Rakestraw
100922 gold - justin2992 in Philly
100942 gold - LBartolomei in Minnesota
101040 gold - John Graham "jgraham" in Ohio.
101073 gold - Bart Goosens in Belgium.
101103 gold - Emiel Veldhuis in Zwolle, Netherlands.
101147 gold - Julio Cesar's friend Oriol in Barcelona
101168 gold - Julio Cesar's replacement PST
101230 gold - me
101306 gold - Luke Leege "LLEGE" in Rochester
101312 gold - "dengwer" in Texas.
101337 gold - Gerald Bokowy "chemkelly" in Illinois
101339 blue - Dean Mohr, Salt Lake City
101344 blue - Rob Willett in London.
101369 blue - James Suarez "Jim7728" in NY - the new one.
101489 blue - FLNightSky in Florida?
101526 blue - spacydee in Los Angeles, California.
101627 blue - Gregor(slo) in Slovenia (the new replacement scope)
101680 blue - Bill "Bonco" in Fla. Not sick.
101742 blue - "EmielVeldhuis" in Zwolle, Netherlands, new scope, best contrast.
101860 blue - Trevor Durity in Galway, Eire. The replacement scope.
101976 blue - Bill "Downward Bound" in Seattle.
101978 blue? - "Tarsier"
102xxx clear-blue/sick/bubbles - (brand new in box - Adorama NYC) - Steven Kim "kimsc321" in NJ
102024 clear-blue/sick/bubbles - (brand new in box - #2 Adorama NYC) - Steven Kim "kimsc321" in NJ, bubbles are very small.
102196 blue - Adam "soreneck" in Toronto
102228 blue - "omahaastro" in Omaha. No bubbles.
102392 blue - Bill Leslie, "bill-in-forres" Scotland. Free replacement for # 97148.
102701 blue - Myles in Seattle.
103552 blue - Ben Ritchie in Bosham, UK, new scope, sold to Mark Walters, "sol" in Wales.
103825 blue - "Mogster" in Manchester, UK, replacement for sick scope.
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The first group are the ones that had the problem. Reflective blue lenses, one transparent...
The second group are the gold ones.
The last group are the new type, with blue lenses (transparent). Not sick.
If your PST or BF is sick, call Coronado/Meade:
1 (800) 626-3233 - Dave Wiggins ext 6289
Wayne.Motonaga@meade.com -- Not actually in the repair dept. Told Chris to "Be patient." :-(
Eddie Salgado -- "Very helpful"
For Meade PST repairs in Europe, contact Meade Germany: service.apd@meade.de
http://www.meade.de/en/about-us/employees.html
Sven Koenigsfeld - Tel. 0049-2872-8074-153
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AKA Richard Drumm The Astronomy Bum
Orion Atlas 10 (10" Newt on an equatorial mount)
Celestron 15x70 SkyMaster Binocs
Coronado Ha PST
President, Charlottesville Astronomical Society
IOTA member
38° 10' 57"N, 78° 23' 09"W
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Richard B. Drumm
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Reged: 07/14/05
Posts: 1486
Loc: Albemarle Co. Virginia
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Here's what I've been up to:
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3 Radio Astronomy Futures: ALMA, EVLA, SKA - Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMo4V2XO0S0
3 Radio Astronomy Futures: ALMA, EVLA, SKA - Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtkV2Rol0Ss
3 Radio Astronomy Futures: ALMA, EVLA, SKA - Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7215TYvqPE
3 Radio Astronomy Futures: ALMA, EVLA, SKA - Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dthttTcofMo
3 Radio Astronomy Futures: ALMA, EVLA, SKA - Part 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mT9baKlxsl0
3 Radio Astronomy Futures: ALMA, EVLA, SKA - Part 6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WShFmw2z3aQ
3 Radio Astronomy Futures: ALMA, EVLA, SKA - Part 7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZtomAHkE4E
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Daniel's scope has a gold objective. This explains to -MY- satisfaction his scope's superb health. The question there (to which we'll prolly never have an answer) is why does it have a gold objective instead of the sick blue? It might be that the original owner had it fixed (which Dan says didn't happen) or it might have been an experiment at the factory with the new objective supplier.
Fernando:
Yes, it's the rust. No doubt about it. Meade has been -VERY- responsible about fixing them, so get it in the mail immediately. I'm sure that sunspots will return someday soon... I hope.....
Rich
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AKA Richard Drumm The Astronomy Bum
Orion Atlas 10 (10" Newt on an equatorial mount)
Celestron 15x70 SkyMaster Binocs
Coronado Ha PST
President, Charlottesville Astronomical Society
IOTA member
38° 10' 57"N, 78° 23' 09"W
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jskuban
super member
Reged: 03/19/05
Posts: 120
Loc: Northern Illinois
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Any idea what the current turn-around time is for a Meade repair of a PST? Sent mine around Feb. 1st, wondering when I should start to be concerned.
Jay
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16" Nightsky
8" Orion
80mm Nighthawk
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bill-in-forres
member
Reged: 06/19/05
Posts: 88
Loc: Forres, Scotland
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You might want to look at this post on the Yahoo PST group.
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Coronado_PST/message/5907
I'll cut and paste it if it can't be viewed here.
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Clear skies,
Bill Leslie
57.6degN 3.6degW
ETX90RA + Thousand Oaks white light filter
Helios 8" Dob.
Orion 20x80 binos on parallelogram mount.
PST on Astro3 equatorial mount
Williams Optics Binoviewers + Harry Siebert OCA for PST
http://www.sigma-astro.co.uk/
http://www.spacegazer.com/
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Erix
Toad Lily
Reged: 12/25/04
Posts: 22539
Loc: Ohio, USA
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Jay, I think it varies. In your case, I'd give them a call to see what the status is.
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Erika
Automatic doors make me feel like a Jedi.
Zhumell 16", 10" LX200 Classic,Orion ED80, ETX70-AT, DS Maxscope 60mm
My CN Gallery * 2007 July - tracking NOAA10963
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astroarno
newbie
Reged: 03/11/08
Posts: 3
Loc: Germany
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Hello friends,
here is my first posting:
My PST I bought 2004 in Germany with a specialist dealer. The
objective "rusted" slowly. 2007 were repaired free of charge
it by MEADE (EUROPA). Now it is more wieser as new. The new objective is very transparent, so that I can see into the telescope inside.
96722 sick, repaired now blue/transparent -Arno Hesse Germany
Many greetings from Germany.
Astroarno
http://arno.flasht.de/
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NickH
Post Laureate
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Posts: 3717
Loc: Wiltshire, UK (near StoneHenge...
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Arno, do you have any more examples of your PST latest images, as the old ones on your website also show astigmatism. I guess Meade Europe fixed that with your rust problem?
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JimW
professor emeritus
Reged: 08/31/04
Posts: 696
Loc: Mansfield, Texas
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Astroarno,
Welcome to Cloudy Nights! I recently had my rusty PST repaired - sent it to Meade in December and got it back in February. I'm very pleased with the improvement.
Now that you have joined Cloudy Nights, please tell us how your solar observations in Germany are going.
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Jim Walsh
18" Obsession UC #1 AN/SC
SV90T (Stardust Blue)
DM-6 mount (on order)
PST
Leupold Wind River 8x42
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astropup
sage
Reged: 12/12/05
Posts: 423
Loc: Ann Arbor, MI
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#99606 is sick and was received by Meade on Feb 8th. Hopefully I don't have to wait 6 months to use it.
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DBA Deep Space Observer 10" f/5 (GSO Dob)
Meade 114/500 4.5" f/8 Reflector
PST
Celestron Skymaster 15x70mm
Oberwerk 8x56mm
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astroarno
newbie
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Posts: 3
Loc: Germany
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Quote:
Arno, do you have any more examples of your PST latest images, as the old ones on your website also show astigmatism. I guess Meade Europe fixed that with your rust problem?
it does wrong to me, but I photograph very few. For it I always draw if the sun is to be seen:
http://arno.flasht.de/unterordner_zeichnungen/startseite.htm
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