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Richard B. Drumm
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Steve:
It starts with an orange colored area on the objective.
BTW, what's your serial #? I don't see you on the list!
Here's a photo of MBZ's objective (I'm in a hurry and can't take the time now to hunt down the original post, sorry mods!) for reference. It starts with a few specks and progresses to downright opacity!
Rich
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Orion Atlas 10 (10" Newt on an equatorial mount)
Celestron 15x70 SkyMaster Binocs
Coronado Ha PST
President, Charlottesville Astronomical Society
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darkstar528
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Thank you for that picture...
I'm there:
96038 not sick - Stephen "darkstar 528" in Kentucky.
You're not used to looking that far back on the list LOL My point exactly, matter of time, IMHO...
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Blue skies,
Stephen "Darkstar" Ames
PST(#96038), VIXEN 8-24mm,CEMAX 2x Barlow, Thousand Oaks White Light Filter and a Meade Elec EP
CFI, CFII, MEI, working on EIEIO!
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AstroRon
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Posts: 1350
Loc: Maine Coast
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Hi Richard,
Guess you had a nice time in MAINE! Most of what you experienced is why I live here! (and more).
I've tried to get through but LOOOOOONG periods of hold time. Need a stretch where I can hold on for awhile and wait to talk to a real person.
Thanks for the info, Richard. very helpful.
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Ron, KF1H
PST/PSM40, ETX-125, Lunt LS60Ha50DS/BF1200 http://mysite.verizon.net/KF1H
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Richard B. Drumm
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Stephen:
Now I see ya! I had your handle in there as darkstar 528, but I was doing a search for darkstar528 (with no space) and couldn't find it! 
I did have a good time in Maine, I even swam at the beach in Acadia Park!
Brrrrr! 
It was.... um.... envigorating! Yeah, that's it!
Even the wife and kids got envigorated!
Rich 
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Orion Atlas 10 (10" Newt on an equatorial mount)
Celestron 15x70 SkyMaster Binocs
Coronado Ha PST
President, Charlottesville Astronomical Society
IOTA member
38° 10' 57"N, 78° 23' 09"W
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darkstar528
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She looks like she's having fun! I know you were! LOL
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Blue skies,
Stephen "Darkstar" Ames
PST(#96038), VIXEN 8-24mm,CEMAX 2x Barlow, Thousand Oaks White Light Filter and a Meade Elec EP
CFI, CFII, MEI, working on EIEIO!
BAA Member
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AstroRon
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Loc: Maine Coast
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Sand beach HAS to be the coldest beach in NORTH AMERICA! Water is warmer in Nova Scotia! (Gulf Stream)
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Andrew Welsh
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Posts: 2483
Loc: Rochester, NY
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Sand beach HAS to be the coldest beach in NORTH AMERICA! Water is warmer in Nova Scotia! (Gulf Stream)
I used to swim every summer at York Beach in august, and I swear the water was like 60 degrees. Blue lips after 5 minutes! You notice only the kids are in that icy water. BRR!
But on the original topic of this thread, I was blisfully unaware of this PST issue, and I've owned a PST since March of '06. Now I can't wait to check the front element and see if I have the same problem! Mine was definitely made pre-Meade ownership of the Coronado line of scopes. Gee, thanks, guys (and gals) for getting me all paranoid! 
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Phil Wheeler
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Reged: 12/31/05
Posts: 1192
Loc: Los Angeles Beach Area
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Mine is 94366, purchased in July 2004.
Was fine 8-9 mos ago, now has creeping rust.
Just called Dave Wiggins' number in the above post.
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Phil / W7OX
Nexstar8GPS XLT w/SkyAlign Upgrade
WO 10th Anniversary ZS-80FD APO, UA Microstar
Denk II Power x Switch, Vixen LV 8-24 Zooms, PST Corrector
Celestron C5+
Coronado P.S.T, Bogen 410 Geared Head,
Binos: Konica Minolta 7x35; Carton 7x50, Orion 9x63, Ob 15x70; Canon 12x36 IS II; Canon 10x42L IS
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TONGKW
professor emeritus
Reged: 01/16/07
Posts: 570
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My rusty PST (Serial No. 96603) was returned to Coronado through the local dealer in March this year for warranty repair and has just returned. I had been told Coronado had unfortunately lost all their original staff team when acquired by Meade last year and to show my understanding I insisted on my local dealer not to chase up Coronado and just let them take their time (thus it has taken 6 months). I also gladly paid for the transportation charges.
My PST is now working normally. It would appear my repaired PST has a lot of new parts fitted in it as the front achromatic lens with cell can now be screwed off completely and the filter has been placed at the back.
Regards
K W TONG
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C8 + CG-5GT, TSA102 + HEQ5 PRO, MK67 + Kenko NES, NexStar 6SE, WO ZS 80FD + Mizar K mount, C5, Mini Borg 50, PST.
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Richard B. Drumm
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Might as well post the latest iteration of "the list".
Mr. Tong got repaired, yay! Now it's Phil Wheeler's turn!
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94115 sick - "PEterW" in SW London, Repaired with clear blue objective.
94229 sick? - Rick in Tokyo
94230 sick - Joe Bergeron in NY - repaired twice, last time with clear blue lens.
94262 sick - JHM in Colorado.
94366 sick - Phil Wheeler in LA. Purchased in July 2004.
94369 sick - Mike McShan in Oklahoma City. Sending it in for repair.
94595 sick - Chris Reich "Bucephelus" in California. LOST BY MEADE.
94600 sick - Mogster in Manchester. Replaced by Meade Germany, see 103825
94606 sick - Gary Meehan "AXAF" in Boston. Repaired by Meade with a clear blue objective.
94645 not sick - John Hoare in Kildare, Eire
94769 sick? - Dave LoPresti in Conn.
94991 sick - David "ad701xx" in Oregon. "Replaced objective lens and ITF. Clean optics"
95009 sick - Aaron McNeely in Indiana, repaired with blue/transparent obj. No bubbles.
95104 was blue, now gold - Tom Lawson "Guner" in NJ - repaired twice!
95166 sick - James Suarez "Jim7728" in NYC, repaired twice, 2nd time with blue/clear objective & new ITF/etalon. Works great now.
95414 sick - Mike Krzywonski in Texas, repaired by Meade, OK now.
95424 sick - Julio Cesar in Madrid - before repair. Replaced with new scope.
95769 sick - Joan Koch "StargazerJMK", Tacoma. Repaired with clear blue objective & ITF/etalon.
95919 sick - Ron T. "AstroRon" in Maine.
96038 not sick - Stephen Ames "darkstar528" in Kentucky.
96144 sick - Bruce Cosgrove "BRCoz" in Calif. Repaired with clear blue objective.
96325 sick - DAVIDG in Delaware. Repaired with clear blue objective & ITF/etalon.
96367 sick - "Zoomster" in Fla.- now repaired.
96400 sick - "Mogster" in Manchester UK, replaced by Meade Germany with blue #103825
96448 sick - Mike Rosolina "Special Ed" in West Va. Repaired with clear blue objective & ITF/etalon.
96512 sick - Dave "DMI" Left a message for Mr. Wiggins.
96603 sick - K.W. Tong "TONGKW" in Hong Kong. Sent to Meade (Coronado), now repaired.
96605 sick - SO King-yan Oldfield in Hong Kong.
96618 sick - Doug D. in Virginia. Repaired with clear blue objective & ITF/etalon.
96714 sick - Darren Hiebert in Alabama, repaired, sick again!
96969 sick - CESDewar in Georgia, repaired with blue objective.
97148 sick - Bill Leslie "bill-in-forres" Scotland. Replaced by BC&F (Meade).
97449 not sick yet, blue - Steve Durham in NY
97468 sick - Bruce Raemsch "Carpe Noctum" in Cal., returned, lost by Meade, replaced.
97491 gold - Daniel Steinke in Illinois - bought used, repaired?
97575 gold - sick "EmielVeldhuis" in Zwolle, Netherlands, old scope, sold?
98031 sick - Brian "Solar B" in Scotland. Repaired with new blue objective, new ERF/BF/Spacer.
98131 not sick, blue/transparent - Gustavo Phols in Mexico (already repaired?)
98569 sick - Joplin Motisher. Repaired with clear blue objective & ITF tested.
98670 sick & gold (yellow?) "Davo" in Scotland
98773 sick - Gregor(slo) in Slovenia (the old scope)
98994 sick - Steve "molniyabeer" in Italia
99193 sick - Karoly "kfjpal" in Hungary. Might send it to Meade Germany or Broadhurst, Clarkson & Fuller in UK.
99309 sick - Michelle "JARSHEART" in Fla. "Replace objective lens and ITF, clean optics."
99335 sick - Kelly "Trombone" Repaired with clear blue objective & ITF/etalon. Traded to Bobby "Strgazr27" on Long Island?
99492 sick - "Solar1" in Texas. Sent back to Meade 3/8/07
99493 sick - Adrian Guzman "solmax" in San Jose, CA. Repaired with clear blue objective & ITF/etalon.
99520 sick - DanJ in North Carolina. Repaired, new blue objective, cleaned optics.
99729 sick - Kurt Fisher, "canopus56" in Salt Lake City. Repaired with clear blue objective.
99760 sick - (brand new in box - Discovery Store) - Steven Kim "kimsc321" in NJ
99801 unknown -- STOLEN -- Erika Rix in Ohio
99807 sick - "Ike" Stewart, Repaired with clear blue objective & ITF/etalon.
100051 sick - Trevor Durity in Galway, Eire (Ben Ritchie's old scope) - sent to Meade for repair. --REPLACED--
100292 not sick - Marcus Thompson "JAT Observatory" in Pennsylvania.
100349 not sick - Chris Schroeder in Wisconsin
100353 not sick - Jeff Wilson "birddog06" in Oregon.
100360 sick - Rick in Tokyo
100407 slightly sick - Stephane in Belgium.
100657 sick - Barry "CactusButt" in Texas. Will be sent back after TSP 2007.
100658 sick - Jim from NJ Night Sky. Repaired with clear blue objective & ITF/etalon.
100706 gold - Ed Kessler in PA, sold to JD Sherman in New Jersey?
100727 gold - Bill K. "SprintCar Driver" in California
100914 gold - Quentin Rakestraw
100922 gold - justin2992 in Philly
100942 gold - LBartolomei in Minnesota
101040 gold - "jgraham" in Ohio
101073 gold - Bart Goosens in Belgium.
101147 gold - Julio Cesar's friend Oriol in Barcelona
101168 gold - Julio Cesar's replacement PST
101230 gold - me
101306 gold - Luke Leege "LLEGE" in Rochester
101312 gold - "dengwer" in Texas.
101337 gold - Gerald Bokowy "chemkelly" in Illinois
101339 blue - Dean Mohr, Salt Lake City
101344 blue - Rob Willett in London.
101369 blue - James Suarez "Jim7728" in NY - the new one.
101489 blue - FLNightSky in Florida?
101526 blue - spacydee in Los Angeles, California.
101627 blue - Gregor(slo) in Slovenia (the new replacement scope)
101680 blue - Bill "Bonco" in Fla. Not sick.
101742 blue - "EmielVeldhuis" in Zwolle, Netherlands, new scope, best contrast.
101860 blue - Trevor Durity in Galway, Eire. The replacement scope.
101976 blue - Bill "Downward Bound" in Seattle.
101978 blue? - "Tarsier"
102xxx clear-blue/sick/bubbles - (brand new in box - Adorama NYC) - Steven Kim "kimsc321" in NJ
102024 clear-blue/sick/bubbles - (brand new in box - #2 Adorama NYC) - Steven Kim "kimsc321" in NJ, bubbles are very small.
102196 blue - Adam "soreneck" in Toronto
102228 blue - "omahaastro" in Omaha. No bubbles.
102392 blue - Bill Leslie, "bill-in-forres" Scotland. Free replacement for # 97148.
103552 blue - Ben Ritchie in Bosham, UK, new scope, sold to Mark Walters, "sol" in Wales.
103825 blue - "Mogster" in Manchester, UK, replacement for sick scope.
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The first group are the ones that had the problem. Reflective blue lenses, one transparent...
The second group are the gold ones.
The last group are the new type, with blue lenses (transparent). Not sick.
If your PST or BF is sick, call Coronado/Meade:
1 (800) 626-3233 - Dave Wiggins ext 6289
Wayne.Motonaga@meade.com -- Not actually in the repair dept. Told Chris to "Be patient." :-(
Eddie Salgado -- "Very helpful"
For Meade PST repairs in Europe, contact Meade Germany: service.apd@meade.de
http://www.meade.de/en/about-us/employees.html
Sven Koenigsfeld - Tel. 0049-2872-8074-153
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Orion Atlas 10 (10" Newt on an equatorial mount)
Celestron 15x70 SkyMaster Binocs
Coronado Ha PST
President, Charlottesville Astronomical Society
IOTA member
38° 10' 57"N, 78° 23' 09"W
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Daniel
scholastic sledgehammer
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I am listed here,,, I purchased used, gold coatings, and NOT sick. Works great and no signs of going bad... Knock on ...wood?
Daniel Steinke
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Richard B. Drumm
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Loc: Albemarle Co. Virginia
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Hey Daniel!
Yours and Emiel's are a source of confusion for me. You have surely noticed that your serial number is not typical of a gold lens scope. I just wonder how it came to have a gold lens...
Mine is gold too, no problems with any of them (though I'm not sure we could even see the dreaded rust if it occurred inside a gold lens, it'd be invisible) at least no problems that we know of...
Rich
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Orion Atlas 10 (10" Newt on an equatorial mount)
Celestron 15x70 SkyMaster Binocs
Coronado Ha PST
President, Charlottesville Astronomical Society
IOTA member
38° 10' 57"N, 78° 23' 09"W
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EmielVeldhuis
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Why am I confusing you, Richard?
greetz emiel
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8" LX10 SCT,Skywatcher NEQ6pro,Vixen SP,Skywatcher 150/1200mm refractor, Coronado PST's: Gold and Blue,Lunt LS60T-HA and CaK b/600, b/wToUcamSC3RAWmod.and a DMK 31AU03as.
http://astrosurf.com/obsolar/colabora/colaboradores/veldhuis.html
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Richard B. Drumm
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Emiel:
Here's a small piece of the list:
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97148 sick - Bill Leslie "bill-in-forres" Scotland. Replaced by BC&F (Meade).
97449 not sick yet, blue - Steve Durham in NY
97468 sick - Bruce Raemsch "Carpe Noctum" in Cal., returned, lost by Meade, replaced.
97491 gold - Daniel Steinke in Illinois - bought used, repaired?
97575 gold - sick "EmielVeldhuis" in Zwolle, Netherlands, old scope, sold?
98031 sick - Brian "Solar B" in Scotland. Repaired with new blue objective, new ERF/BF/Spacer.
98131 not sick, blue/transparent - Gustavo Phols in Mexico (already repaired?)
98569 sick - Joplin Motisher. Repaired with clear blue objective & ITF tested.
98670 sick & gold (yellow?) "Davo" in Scotland
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There's your scope and Daniel's scope, with gold objectives, sitting in a sea of sick blue scopes! (If they just say "sick" they have the old blue coatings.) I think they must have experimented with gold objectives for a couple days and switched back to the original coatings after the experiment was over. That's the only answer to why you have gold coatings that I can think of, unless somebody at Meade switched the objectives before shipping the scope out...
BTW, here's a new modification that'll appear in the next full list:
98994 sick - Steve Riegel "molniyabeer" in Italia, repaired, blue objective now.
Rich
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Celestron 15x70 SkyMaster Binocs
Coronado Ha PST
President, Charlottesville Astronomical Society
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Erix
Toad Lily
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Quote:
There's your scope and Daniel's scope, with gold objectives, sitting in a sea of sick blue scopes! (If they just say "sick" they have the old blue coatings.) I think they must have experimented with gold objectives for a couple days and switched back to the original coatings after the experiment was over. That's the only answer to why you have gold coatings that I can think of, unless somebody at Meade switched the objectives before shipping the scope out...
And let's remember, folks, that the quote above is just an idea and not necessarily what happened. 
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Erika
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Zhumell 16", 10" LX200 Classic,Orion ED80, ETX70-AT, DS Maxscope 60mm
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Erix
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Richard, again, thank you for keeping up this list for us.
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Erika
Automatic doors make me feel like a Jedi.
Zhumell 16", 10" LX200 Classic,Orion ED80, ETX70-AT, DS Maxscope 60mm
My CN Gallery * 2007 July - tracking NOAA10963
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EmielVeldhuis
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Hello Richard, my old pst with golden coating is two times repared by Meade Germany...the put another golden objective on the oldie...it had after that very lack of detail, visually and with a webcam. Lots of tubecurrent too!
after the 3rd time of repair, they gave me an new one with the blue lens. I've heard that Meade made a thousand or so with a golden coating...they were to expensive to make, so they changed it back to the blue "ITO"-lens. Just bought myself a next PST...with an older serienumber...I will have it over a week or so...just another to fill the list. It should have the orange or the gold coloured coating.
greetz emiel
greetz emiel
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8" LX10 SCT,Skywatcher NEQ6pro,Vixen SP,Skywatcher 150/1200mm refractor, Coronado PST's: Gold and Blue,Lunt LS60T-HA and CaK b/600, b/wToUcamSC3RAWmod.and a DMK 31AU03as.
http://astrosurf.com/obsolar/colabora/colaboradores/veldhuis.html
www.solarlive.nu
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John Kocijanski
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Posts: 1662
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Add me to your list. Serial number 94343. The rust has happened to mine twice. The first time was back in 2005. It was repaired by Coronado. I just noticed it again today. Here is the new thread I posted. http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=solar&Number=1873951&fpart=&PHPSESSID=
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Daniel
scholastic sledgehammer
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Loc: Roscoe,IL
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I just posted in another thread. I keep my pst out in my pool room that is indoors. This is a high humidity room and I never have a problem with the scope. Sometimes i nthe mornings after the cover on the pool has been off for swimming, and the cieling fans and dehumidifier have been on, I get the dew on all the windows... thats typically not a good thing to do, but I keep things covered and for the most part.. moisture free out there.
I am pushing the envelope of this scope.... if moisture IS the culprit of the problem.
I look at it EVERY day to see if it is getting sick, no luck so far! 
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Looking for a big ol Dobsonian..12-16"
ETX 70mm,F5
Bushnell 7-21x40 bino's
Barska 20x80mm Binos
Meade Video Eyepiece
Canon A-E1 SLR,Canon EOS ElanII
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Richard B. Drumm
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Posts: 1482
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Daniel:
"I look at it EVERY day to see if it is getting sick, no luck so far!"
You probably mean "lots of luck so far!"
So now the odd appearance of gold objectives in the middle of a long run of blue (and mostly sick) objectives is partially solved, Emiel had his "repaired" by Meade Germany. It sounds like it wasn't a good repair and they did the correct thing by replacing the scope altogether.
So Daniel, did yours get repaired also? Your scope is the only other gold objective scope in "the blue zone"... It's possible that you had your old scope replaced by a new gold one and I've got the old scopes serial number stuck onto your new scopes objective somehow... Stranger things have happened.
How would you compare the gold objective with the old blue one? Did you notice a lack of contrast like Emiel did? I have a gold scope as well and haven't had much (OK, any) experience looking through other PSTs for comparison. I wonder what (if anything) I'm missing...
Other than sunspots, that is! 
Rich
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Celestron 15x70 SkyMaster Binocs
Coronado Ha PST
President, Charlottesville Astronomical Society
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